Jul 21, 2026 City Council

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>>> GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. WELCOME TO OUR COUNCIL MEETING FOR TUESDAY JULY 21ST. WILL YOU PLEASE CALL ROLE?

>> YES, SIR COUNCILLORMAN DEL.A. GARZA.

BUTLER? SCOTT? YOUNG? LOFFGREN.

--. >> IF YOU WOULD PLEASE RISE AND JOIN US FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE.

ALL RIGHT, AGAIN WELCOME EVERYONE.

WE WILL JUMP INTO OUR BUSINESS FOR THE EVENING.

I DO HAVE A PREPARED STATEMENT I'D LIKE TO READ.

BEFORE WE BEGIN THE MEETING TONIGHT, SO WE WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE PASSING OF SOMEONE WHOSE IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITY HAS BEEN TRULY IMMEASURABLE.

ON BEHALF OF MYSELF, COUNCIL, THE CITY OF VICTORIA AND THIS ENTIRE ORGANIZATION, WE WANT TO EXTEND OUR DEEPEST SYMPATHIES TO THE FAMILY OF GARY MOSES AND TO THE COUNTLESS FRIENDS, NEIGHBOURS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO ARE NO DOUBT MOURNING HIS PASSING THIS WEEK. GARY DEDICATED HIS LIFE TO SERVING OTHERS. HE ALWAYS DEMONSTRATED COMPASSION AND HUMILITY. HE BELIEVED IN THE POTENTIAL OF EVERY PERSON HE MET. AND HE HAS INSPIRED VICTORIA AND INSPIRED HOPEFULLY EACH OF US TO LIFT OTHERS UP AND WORK TOGETHER TO BUILD A STRONGER COMMUNITY.

HIS LEGACY WILL BE SEEN NOT ONLY IN THE LIVES THAT HE CHANGED BUT ALSO IN THE SPIRIT OF SERVICE THAT WE CAN USE AND WE CAN ADOPT TO UNITE OUR CITY. WE ARE GRATEFUL TO HAVE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF CALLING GARY ONE OF OUR OWN AND HIS INFLUENCE WILL CONTINUE TO BE FELT FOR GENERATIONS.

NOT ONLY THROUGH THE PEOPLE HE INSPIRED BUT ALSO THROUGH THE GARY MOSES COMMUNITY CENTER WHICH PROUDLY BEARS HIS NAME AND REFLECTS THE VALUES THAT HE CHAMPIONED THROUGHOUT HIS LIFE.

FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T SEEN, THE CITY HAS LAUNCHED A DEDICATED ONLINE TRIBUTE CELEBRATING GARY'S EXTRAORDINARY LIFE AND LEGACY AND WE INVITE THE COMMUNITY TO VISIT THAT TRIBUTE AT WWW.VICTORIATX.GOV/BROTHERGARY.

THERE YOU CAN WATCH A MEMORIAL VIDEO.

YOU CAN SEE A VIDEO OF HIM BEING PRESENTED WITH A KEY TO THE CITY HERE IN THE BICENTENNIAL CELEBRATION AND HEAR HIS OWN WORDS FROM HIS TOWN TALK PODCAST INTERVIEW AND REFLECT ON THE LASTING IMPACT THAT HE MADE ON VICTORIA.

SO YOU KNOW, GARY OFTEN REMINDED US THAT SERVING OTHERS IS ONE OF LIFE'S GREAT CALLINGS.

SO IT IS MY HOPE THAT HIS MEMORY WILL CONTINUE TO LIVE OUT IN EACH OF US IN HIS MEMORY WILL CONTINUE TO LIVE OUT THOSE VALUES EACH DAY. SO IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE JOIN ME FOR A MOMENT OF SIELENCE AND HONOUR BROTHER GARY.

THANK YOU. JUST AS A REMINDER, IF YOU HAVEN'T RECEIVED WORD, SERVICE FOR GARY WILL BE JULY 29TH.

I BELIEVE THE SCHEDULE FROM 3 O'CLOCK TO 7 O'CLOCK AT THE APTLY NAMED GARY MOSES COMMUNITY CENTER AND WE AT THE CITY ARE WORKING ON LIVE STREAMING THAT EVENT FOR THOSE WHO MAY BE UNABLE TO ATTEND. SO CHECK WITH THE CITY OF VICTORIA WEBSITE FORKER ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OR

[1. Announcements/Reminders:]

EVENING? >> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL I HAVE SEVERAL REMINDERSER THIS EVENING ON BEHALF OF CBB APPLICATIONS FOR THE CITY OF VIKTORER YA''S HOPE TO AUPANCY WILL CLOSE FRIDAY JULY 31ST AT MIDNIGHT.

INFORMATION COVERING HOT FUNDS APPLICATION AND EVALUATION PROCESSES WILL BE HELD MONDAY JULY 27TH AT 6 P.M. AT 700 MAIN

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ON BEHALF OF THE LIBRARY, PLEASE JOIN THE VIKTORER YA' PUBLIC LIBRARY FRIDAY JULY 24TH AT-- PLAZA FROM 2 TO 4 P.M. TO CELEBRATE THE GRAND FINALE OF OUR SUMMER READING PROGRAM WITH AN EPIC END OF SUMMERER FOAM PARTY.

COME WASH AWAY THE SUMMER HEAT. DANCE IN THE BUBBLES AND CELEBRATE YOUR READING ACHIEVEMENTS WITH US.

IT IS ALSO THE LAST DAY TO TURN IN ANY YOUTH READING LOGS TO BE ENTERED INTERVIEWER SUMMER READING PRIZE DRAWING.

ON BEHALF OF MUNICIPAL COURT, APPLICATIONS FOR THE CITY OF VICTORIA'S CHILD SAFETY GRANTS FOR 2026/'27 WILL OPEN JULY 27TH AT 8 A.M. AND CLOSE FRIDAY AUGUST 14TH AT 5 P.M.

AN INFORMATION WORKSHOP FOR POTENTIAL APPLICANTS WILL BE HELD IN MUNICIPAL COURT CHAMBERS AT 2525 NORTH MAIN STREET WHICH IS OUR NEW PUBLIC SAFETY HEADQUARTER FACILITY.

ON WEDNESDAY JULY 29TH AT 11:30 A.M.

FOR MORER DETAILS GO TO VICTORIATX.COM CONTACT THE ADMINISTRATE AT 3611-485-3050 OR TUNE INTO THIS EVENING'S CITY MANAGER'S REPORT. ON BEHALF OF THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT A NEW EPISODE OF TOWN TALK WILL DEBUT TOMORROW MORNING ON YOUTUBE AND SPOTIFY FEATURING THE CITY'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. TEXAS VICTORIA SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT CENTER AND THE BIGGER VICTORIA NETWORKERING GROUP. TUNE IN TO LEARN ABOUT THE CHALLENGES SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS FACE AND THE RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO HELP. INCLUDING THE UPCOMING VIKCTORA SMALL BUSINESS RESOURCE FARE THAT WILL TAKE PLACE AUGUST 6TH. AS A WISE MAN ONCE SAID, LET'S GET DOWN TO BUSINESS. I DON'T WRITE THESE ZBLUP TELL

US THAT EVERY MEETING. >> BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE

PEOPLE TUNING IN KNOW THAT. >> YEAH, GILBERT WRITES THESE.

ON BEHALF OF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT ON FRIDAY JULY 24TH, THEY WILL HOST COFFEE WITH A COP FROM 7:30 TO 9 A.M. IN THE LOBBY OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY HEADQUARTERS.

LOCATED AT 2525 NORTH MAIN. WITH BREAKFAST SPONSORED BY VICTORIA COMMUNICATION SERVICES.

IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING COFFEE WITH A COP THE VIKTORER YA' POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS WILL HOST A COMMUNITY BLOOD DRIVE FROM 9 A.M. TO 2 P.M. IN PARTNERSHIP WITH VCS AND TEXAS BLOOD AND TISSUE CENTER. ALSO AT PUBLIC SAFETY HEADQUARTERS WITH LUNCH PROVIDED BY VCS AT 11:30 A.M.

ALL BLOOD DONORERS WILL RECEIVE A $20E GIFT CARD FROM THE SOUTH TEXAS BLOOD AND TISSUE CENTER AND BE ENTERED INTO DRAWINGS FORKER ADDITIONAL GIFT CARDS THAT HAVE BEEN GENEROUSLY DOE NATED BY WAL-MART, HB AND TARGET.

AND I DID NOTICE THAT A GRAPHIC POPPED UP ON THE SCREEN REGARDING THE TIP A-- FUNDRAISER SUPPORTING SPECIAL OLYMPICS AT TEXAS ROADHOUSE THAT'LL TAKE PLACE THIRD JULY 23RDER FROM 5 TO 9 P.M. OFFICERS WILL TRADE THEIR BADGES FOR APRONS AND VOLUNTEER ALONGSIDE STAFF AT THE ROADHOUSE. EVERY TIP AND DONATION DURING THE EVENT WILL DIRECTLY SUPPORT SPECIAL OLYMPICS.

HELPING PROVIDE YEAR ROUND SPORTS TRAINING AND ATHLETIC COMPETITION FOR CHILDREN AND ADULTS WITH INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES. LASTLY, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL HOST A FREE-- ETCHING EVENT AT THE VICTORIA MASONIC LODGE LOCATED AT 3502 NORTH-- STREET SATURDAY JULY 25TH FROM 9 A.M. TO 12 P.M. ETCHING ON VEHICLE WINDOWS IS ANOTHER LAYER OF SECURITY AND HELPS DETER VEHICLE THEFT.

AND WITH THAT, I'VE COMPLETED ANNOUNCEMENTS FOR THE EVENING.

[2. Public & Employee Recognitions:]

>> ALL RIGHT THANK YOU WELL DONE.

WE'LL MOVE ONTO THEN PUBLIC AND EMPLOYEE RECOGNITIONS.

WE HAVE ONE PROCLAMATION THIS EVENING.

FOR NATIONAL HEALTH CENTER WEEK.

MS. HILL--. >> YES, SIR WHEREAS COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTERS ARE FEDERALY QUALIFYED.

COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATIONS GOVERNED BY PATIENT MAJORITY BOARDS AND DEDICATED TO PROVIDING QUALITY, AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE TO ALL PATIENTS REGARDLESS OF INSURANCE STATUS OR ABILITY TO PAY, AND WHEREAS IN 2026 COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTERS OF SOUTH CENTRAL TEXAS, A FEDERALLY-QUALIFIED HEALTH CENTER PROUDLY MARKS 60 YEERPS OF SERVICE, HAVING PROVIDED COMPASSIONATE PATIENT-CENTRED CARE TO INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES SINCE 1966 AND WHEREAS COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTER SERVED MORE THAN 20,000 PATIENTS IN 2025 INCLUDING MORER THAN 8600 UNINSURED PATIENTS. HELPING ENSURE THAT ESSENTIAL HEALTH CARE SERVICES REMAIN ACCESSIBLE TO INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITIES TO SERVE-- IT SERVES ACROSS SOUTH CENTRAL TEXAS.

AND WHEREAS COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTERS PROVIDERS, STAFF LEADERSHIP, BOARD MEMBERS, VOLUNTEERS AND COMMUNITY PARTNERS WORK EACH DAY TO STRENGTHEN COMMUNITIES THROUGH THE INNOVATION SERVICE AND COMMITMENT TO IMPROVAL HEALTH AND WELL BEING AND WHEREAS NATIONAL HEALTH CENTERS WEEK IN 2026 CELEBRATES THE THEME BUILDING INNOVATIVE HEALTH CARE WHERE IT MATTERS MOST. RECOGNIZING THE VITAL ROLE COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTERS PLAY IN EXPANDING ACCESS TO HEALTH, TO CARE, ADVANCING HEALTH EQUITY AND IMPROVING LIVES

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AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

ON BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTERS OF SOUTH CENTRAL TEXAS, THANK YOU FOR THIS PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING NATIONAL HEALTH CENTER WEEK AND OUR ORGANIZATION 60 YEARS OF SERVING TEXAS COMMUNITIES. OUR VICTORIA, COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTER LOCATED AT 4206 AT TUOMO CIRCLE.

OUR DEDICATED TEAM PROVIDES MEDICAL, DENTAL AND BEHAVIOURAL HEALTH SERVICES TO INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES THROUGHOUT THE VICTORIA COMMUNITY. OUR CLINIC IS OPEN MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY FROM 8 TO 5. WE ARE HONOURED TO SERVE THE VICTORIA COMMUNITY AND REMAIN COMMITTED TO IMPROVING HEALTH AND WELL BEING OF EVERY PATIENT IN EVERY FAMILY WE SERVE.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE RECOGNITION AND FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT FOR COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTERS OF SOUTH CENTRAL TEXAS. THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT, WE WILL MOVE ON THEN MR. GARZA DO YOU HAVE ANY

[3. Items from Council:]

>> NO, SIR. >> OKAY.

WE'LL JUMP TO ITEMS FROM COUNCIL.

MR. LOFFGREN I BELIEVE YOU HAVE AN ITEM THIS EVENING.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD AN ITEM TO THE NEXT COUNCIL AGENDA.

I'D LIKE TO FURTHER DISCUSS THE STORM WATER DRAINAGE UTILITY

FEE. >> OKAY MR. GARZA CAN YOU TAKE CARE OF THAT FOR US? THANK YOU.

[4. Citizen Communication:]

WE HAVE QUITE A FEW CARDS THIS EVENING.

JUST AS A REMINDER, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES. THERE WILL BE A COUNTDOWN CLOCK THERE AT THE PODIUM. WE WILL WANT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYONE TO ADDRESS COUNCIL. SO WE'LL START WITH THE FIRST CARD I HAVE THIS EVENING. MS. WITCLIFF.

>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR CROCKER AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

I JUST WANTED TO STOP BY AND GIVE YOU AN UPDATE AS FAR AS PROTEST SEASON HAS GONE. WE ARE SET TO SERTER FIE THIS WEEK. WE ARE CURRENTLY RUNNING INTO A SMALL ISSUE WITH SOME NEW EXEMPTIONS BEING APPLIED APPROPRIATELY IN THE SOFTWARE BUT THEY ASSURER ME IT WILL BE RESOLVED TOMORROW. HOPEFULLY SO.

WE'LL STILL HAVE ABOUT 1,400 OUTSTANDING PROTESTS THAT'LL HAVE TO BE HEARD THROUGH SEPTEMBER 18TH RIGHT BEFORE WE START OUR SOFTWARE CONVERSIONS SO WE'RE WORKING HARD TO GET THOSE KNOCKED OUT IN ADVANCE. MY OTHER PLUG IF YOU WILL IS WE ARE CURRENTLY RECRUITING FOR THE APPRAISAL REVIEW BOARD MEMBERS. THESE ARE CITIZENS OF VICTORIA COUNTY THAT THEY COME IN EVERY SUMMER AND THEY'LL LISTEN TO PROTEST CASES BETWEEN THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT AND THE PROPERTY OWNERSER. TAKE INTO ACCOUNT DETERMINE VALUE OF PROPERTIES. CRUCIAL TO THIS PORTION OF THE YEAR FOR US. AND SO WE HAVE THEM ON A TWO-YEAR ROTATION. WE HAVE FIVE CURRENTLY SET TO FALL OFF THIS YEAR. SO WE'RE ACCEPTING APPLICATIONS. SO IF YOU KNOW ANYBODY.

PLEASE SEND THEM OUR WAY. THIS IS A PAYING GIG TOO IF SOMEBODY ASKED. THEY MAKE $200 A DAY FOR EVERY HEARING DAY THEY ARE PRESENT AND IF THEY ARE THERE A HALF DAY IT'S A HUNDRED DOLLARS. WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE CITIZENS. THE AREA OF PROTESTS TO SOLVE AND WE CAN GET THEM TAKEN CARE OF.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE BUG HERE.

THE NEXT CARD I HAVE IS KADE CRISP.

MR. CRISP, WELCOME. >> HELLO.

I WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN TO SAY THAT I AM CURRENTLY WORRIED ABOUT THE DATA CENTERS THAT USE AN EXCESS AMOUNT OF WATER, ELECTRICITY AND ARE DEVELOPING IN MY OPINION AT A FAR GREATER RATE. I THINK 500 FEET IS A BIT TOO CLOSE TO PEOPLE'S PROPERTY. WHICH DISRUPTS THEIR DAY-TO-DAY LIVES AND I'M WORRIED THAT BOTH OF THESE THINGS COULD VIOLATE PERSONAL AND COMMUNITY AUTONOMY.

IT COULD BE INTERPRETED WITH THE DATA CENTERS THAT IT IS AN ATTEMPT OF CENTRALIZATION OF POWER FOR THE DATA CENTERS.

WHICH IS VIEWED AS A THREAT TO DEMOCRACY AND THE LOCAL COMMUNITY. WE WOREY ABOUT SURVEILLANCE AND ENENVIRONMENTAL HARM AND THE ISSUE OF CORPORATE DOMINANCE

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I BELIEVE THE SCARCITY THAT THIS MAY CAUSE WILL CAUSE INEQUALITY. THIS IS ALSO A VIOLATION OF MANY CONSERVATIVE PRINCIPLES IN MY OPINION.

BECAUSE IT IS THE VIOLATION OF PRINCIPLES OF LOCAL AUTONOMY.

FOR MANY YOUNG AND OLD CONSERVATIVES IT IS VIEWED THAT LOCAL RESOURCES ARE NOT TO BE-- WELL THAT THEY ARE NOT BEING CONTROLLED BY THE PEOPLE BUT RATHER THE DATA CENTRES ARE CONSUMING THESE SAID RESOURCES. BECAUSE OF THESE CONCERNS.

RATHERER A MORE-- A PLAN THAT IS MORE JUST IN THE LOCAL COMMUNITY. SO I WOULD CONSIDER A ONE OR

TWO YEAR MORATORIUM. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT.

THE NEXT CARD I HAVE IS FROM GARY HALL.

MR. HALL, WELCOME. >> CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I WISH TO SPEAK ABOUT THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS OF A COMMUNITY. ACCORDING TO INSTITUTES.

TECHNOLOGY ADVANCES AND ADVANCE DATA CENTERS.

BECOME INCREASINGLY. THE SINGLE MODERN AI CENTER CAN USE AS MUCH POWER AS A HUNDRED THOUSAND HOMES.

MANY OF THE LARGE DAR THAT CENTERS IS BEING BUILT.

OR EXPECTED TO BE SOON UP TO 20 TIMES THAT AMOUNT.

ESTIMATES FROM FUTURE DATA CENTERS VARY SIGNIFICANTLY.

ONE STUDY FROM THE LAWRENCE BERKELEY NATIONAL LAVATORY FOUND DATA CENTERS COULD REPRESENT UP TO 12% OF U.S.

ELECTRICITY CONSUMPTION BY 2028.

ANOTHER ANALYSIS BY GRID STRATGYS SAYS THAT UP TO 90 GIGA WATTS WORTH OF DATA CENTERS COULD COME ON LAND BY 2030. THAT'S ABOUT NINE TIMES YORK CITY'S PEAK SUMMER DEMAND JOINING THE GRID IN LESS THAN FIVE YEARS. OF COURSE ANOTHER CONCERN IS THIS YOUNG GENTLEMAN JUST MENTIONED WAS OUR WATER SUPPLY.

DATA CENTERS REQUIRE HUGE AMOUNTS TO KEEP CENTERS COOL ENOUGH. UP TO $300,000 AROUND FOR THE DAY. AS MUCH AS 5 MILLION GALLONS DAILY. COMPARE TO BELIEVE WHAT A SMALL TOWN USES. RECENT EFFORTS PROJECT ABOUT 2028AI-RELATED DATA SERIES THE U.S. COULD REQUIRE UP TO $32 BILLION GALLONS OF WATER ANUALLY.

THIS DEMAND IS A PRESSING PROBLEM OF COMMUNITIES ALREADY FACING DROUGHT. ARE DEPREETING WATER SUPPLIES.

TWO-THIRDS OF ALL DATA CENTERS BUILT ARE IN DEVELOPMENT SINCE 2022 ARE LOCATED IN WATER-STRESSED AREAS.

MUCH LIKE VICTORIA HAS OFTEN BEEN.

LEADING THE NUMBER OF DATA CENTERS IS VIRGINIA.

WORTH 566 DATA CENTERS. COMING IN SECOND IS TEXAS.

WITH 391 CURRENT DATA CENTERS. ACCORDING TO MICHIGAN, ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE COALITION DATA CENTERS INCREASE LOCAL E LEK TRISTY UTILITY RATES BY OVERALL ENERGY DEMAND WHICH CONSTRAIN GREAT CAPACITY AND FORCE UTILITIES TO INVEST IN COSTLY INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADES WHICH ARE OFTEN PASSED ONTO THE CONSUMER. DATA CONSIDERS HAVE LONG SECURED-- LONG-TERM POWER AGREEMENTS WHICH REDUCE AVAILABLE SUPPLY AND PUSH PRICES UP FOR CONSUMERS.

A SINGLE DATA CENTER CAN CONSUME UP TO TWO MEGA WATTS OF POWER EQUIVALENT TO THE POWER USED BY 2,000 HOMES AND MILLIONS OF GALLONS OF WATER ANUALLY FOR COOLING.

THAT STRAINS LOCAL RESOURCES. REGARDING TAXES AND TAX BREAKS FOR DATA CENTERS DO NOT DELIVER THE PROMISE AND BENEFITS.

SUCH AS HIGH-PAYING JOBS AND THEY REDUCE LOCAL TAX REVENUES WHILE SHIFTING FINANCIAL BURDENS ONTO COMMUNITIES IN SCHOOLS. I ASK THAT THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS PROTECT THE CITIZENS OF VIKTORER YA' FROM RISING ECONOMIC COSTS AND DEPLETION RESOURCES AND POSSIBLE FUTURE HEALTH RISKS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. NEXT CARD I HAVE IS FROM ALINE

STEWART. >> GOOD EVENING.

>> HELLO. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'D JUST LIKE TO BEGIN BY SAYING I'M VERY PRO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

I'M A LOCAL REALTOR. AND SO DEVELOPMENT IS GOOD FOR MY BUSINESS AS WELL AS THE CITY.

BUT I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT OUR GROWTH IS NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF

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I WOULD ASK YOU TO BE MINDFUL OF THE PEOPLE THAT YOU REPRESENT. THE CITIZENS OF VICTORIA.

THE COMPANIES THAT WANT TO BUILD THE DATA CENTERS HERE ARE NOT THE PEOPLE WHO ELECTED YOU. THEIR OWNERS ARE NOT VICTORIA CITIZENS. AND THEY DID NOT VOTE FOR YOU.

AND THEY DO NOT HAVE CONCERN FOR THE CITY OF VICTORIA.

THE PEOPLE WHO DID VOTE FOR YOU ARE THE FAMILIES WHO LIVE HERE, PAY TAXES HERE, RAISE THEIR CHILDREN HERE, AND HAVE INVESTED THEIR LIVES IN THIS COMMUNITY.

WE'RE THE PEOPLE YOU ELECTED TO PROTECT.

AS YOU CONSIDER WHETHER DATA CENTERS BELONG INSIDE OUR CITY LIMITS, I ASK THAT YOU PUT THE INTERESTS OF VICTORIA RESIDENTS FIRST. WE ARE THE ONES WHO WILL LIVE WITH THE CONSEQUENCES. WHETHER THAT IS INCREASED DEMAND ON OUR WATER. AND E ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS. NOISE, CHANGES TO OUR NEIGHBOURHOODS OR NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON OUR PROPERTY VALUES. MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS WATER.

THESE FACILITIES CAN REQUIRE ENORMOUS AMOUNTS OF WATER FOR COOLING AND OUR FIRST RESPONSIBILITY SHOULD BE PROTECTING OUR COMMUNITY'S DRINKING WATER SUPPLY.

ESPECIALLY SINCE WE ARE ALREADY USUALLY IN SOME STAGE OF DROUGHT. EVEN THE CLOSED SYSTEM COOLING SYSTEMS REQUIRE A LOT OF WATER. RECENTLY WHEN A FACEBOOK DATA CENTER WHICH IS STILL UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN CHEYENNE, WYOMING, THE SYSTEM DID A TEST FLUSH.

IT DISCHARGED SERIOUS BACTERIA INTO THE ENVIRONMENT.

IN THE CITY LIMITS, THESE DATA CENTERS WILL BE USING OUR CLEAN DRINKING WATER. NOT BRAKISH WATER.

IN SOUTH TEXAS WE'RE EXPERIENCING DROUGHT CONDITIONS MOST OF THE TIME. THIS IS NO PLACE FOR A THIRSTY DATA CENTER TO BE LOCATED. I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE CONSTANT NOISE GENERATED BY THE COOLING E EQUIPMENT THAT WILL OPERATE 24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK AFFECTING THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR NEARBY NEIGHBOURHOODS. THERE ARE ALSO QUESTIONS ABOUT INCREASED DEMANDS ON OUR ELECTRICAL GRID.

THE POTENTIAL NEED FOR ADDITIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY RESOURCES FOR THE LITHIUM BATTERY-RELATED FIRES.

AND THESE LONG-TERM COSTS THAT COULD ULTIMATELY FALL ON VICTORIA TAX PAYERS. NO DOUBT THE OWNERS OF THE DATA CENTERS ARE ASKING FOR TAX ABATEMENTS.

THEY DO NOT WISH TO PAY THEIR OWN WAY.

FINALLY I WORRY ABOUT THE IMPACT ON OUR NEIGHBOURHOODS AND PROPERTY VALUES. PEOPLE CHOOSE TO LIVE HERE BECAUSE OF OUR QUALITY OF LIFE. IF WE BRING IN DEVELOPMENTS THAT CONSUME SIGNIFICANT RESOURCES LIKE WATER AND E LEK TRISTY WHILE CREATING NOISE, POLLUTION AND OTHER CONCERNS, WE RISK CHANGING OUR COMMUNITY FOR THE WORST.

I BELIEVE THE COST. >> YOU'RE OVER YOUR TIME IF YOU COULD WRAP UP YOUR COMMENTS I'D VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

PLEASE REMEMBER WE TRUST YOU TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY. NOT THE INTERESTS OF OUTSIDE CORPORATIONS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU FORKER YOUR COMMENTS.

NEXT CARD I HAVE IS MICHAEL--. >> I LIVE AT 2107 NORTH AND JORDAN. MY CONDOLENCES TO BROTHER GARY MOSES. HE WAS KNOWN FOR DOING THE-- RUNS AND HE ALSO WAS A DIRECTOR FOR RECREATION MANY YEARS AGO.

A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT.

AND ALSO-- I LIKE TO THINK THE DIRECTOR OF THE VICTORIA PARKS AND RECREATION. SHE DID HER MOST IMPORTANT JOB TODAY. SHE FOUND A NET THAT WAS BACKWARDS UPSIDE DOWN AND SHE INSTRUCTED SOMEONE TO CORRECT IT. IT'S KIND OF HARD PLAYING BASKETBALL WITH THE NET BACKWARDS AND STUFF.

SO I'M GLAD SHE FOUND IT AND MAKING ROUNDS ON THE NET SINCE AND I APPRECIATE HER DILIGENCE. ALSO PARTNERS THERE'S BICYCLES THAT ARE LOCKED UP WITH LOCK AND CHAIN.

ABOUT SATURDAY ABOUT 4:30 I LEFT TO GO TO WAL-MART FOR 30 MINUTES. I CAME BACK AND SOMEONE STOLE IT. THEY ALSO BROKE INTO THE SALVATION ARMY AND STEEL BICYCLE.

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BUT I GOT TO ANSWER TO THE PROBLEM.

I THINK THEY JUST NEED TO PUT A SHOCK TANK ON THE SXEET GET AN UNDERCOVER DETECTIVE AND WHEN THEY GET ON IT JUST GO-- AND JUST SHOCK THEM YOU KNOW. BECAUSE THINK NEED TO LEARN THEIR LESSON OR HAVE IT TO WHERE THE SEAT BLOWS UP.

THE BIKE JUST LOCKS UP. A LOT OF PEOPLE GETTING A BIKE MIGHT NOT BE A BIG DEAL. AND WHEN SOME OF YOU FULL COVERAGE INSURANCE YOU JUST GET A BETTER ONE.

SO WOULDN'T BE A BIG DEAL. BUT IF YOU JUST GOT LIABILITY INSURANCE. THESE BICYCLES.

TO USE A LOCK CUTTERER. EVEN THOSE CRYPTEN DEVICES IN 30 SECONDS SOMEONE CAN MOVE THROUGH TO COMMON GRINDER.

THAT'S WHAT IT IS. THE PARKS.

AND EVERYTHING AND MY CONDOLENCES AND BROTHER GARY MOSES. THANKS.

>> THANK YOU. THE NEXT CARD I HAVE IS FROM JULE BUCHANAN. MS. BUCHANAN, WELCOME.

>> WELCOME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I'M GOING TO TRY TO KEEP IT IN MY THREE MINUTES.

SO THANK YOU MAYOR CROCKER AND COUNCIL.

I CAN'T LIST YOU BY NAME BECAUSE LIT TAKE TOO MUCH TIME.

RIGHT NOW IN VICTORIA THOUGH. WE ARE AT A TIPPING POINT.

RIGHT NOW WE ARE AT THE TIPPING POINT OF THE BALANCE BETWEEN THE NEEDS OF VICTORIANS AND THE RIGHTS OF VICTORIANS AND THE NEEDS AND THE EFFECTS OF DATA STROS WITHIN OUR CITY LIMITS.

AND A COLOURFUL DISCUSSION ON SOCIAL MEDIA I WAS MADE AWARE THAT TODAY'S PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING DATA CENTERS HAS MORE TO DO WITH CLEANING UP PUNCTUATION AND CLARIFICATIONS TO A VOED THAT WAS CREATED LAST YEAR BEFORE THE BIT FARM WAS PUT IN ON MAIN STREET. AT A COUNCIL MEETING I ATTENDED A FEW WEEKS AGO IT SEEMED LIKE MAYOR CROCKER'S ADDRESS TO ME AND THE OTHER PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE AS WELL AS MR. GARZA'S COMMENTS THAT THEY ALLUDED TO NEW POLICIES INCLUDING THE 500 FOOT POLICY. SO THAT'S THE UNDERSTANDING OF ALL THIS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU CURRENTLY WORKING ON. IT'S MY HOPE THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE WHO HAVE SHARED AND PLAN TO SHARE THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT THE DATA CENTERS COMING INTO OUR TOWN WILL BE ALLOWED TO PROVIDE THAT INPUT AND PARTICIPATE IN DIALOGUE TOWARDS ADDITIONAL REVISIONS TO THE POLICY.

AND CODES DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WITHIN THE LAST FEW MONTHS, THE EVOLUTION AND INFILTRATION OF THE HYPER STILL DATA CENTER HAS COME TO THE FOREFRONT OF THE REGULAR CITIZENS DAILY NEWS DIET.

WE'RE LEARNING ABOUT THESE THINGS JUST NOW EVEN AS THEY SEEM TO HAVE BEEN IN THE WORKS WITH DECIDING BODIES FOR MONTHS. AND IN SOME CASES YEARS.

WE DO NOT CURRENTLY HAVE HYPER SCALE DATA WITHIN OUR CITY LIMITS AS COUNCIL MEMBERS THOUGH YOU GUYS HAVE MORE POWER THAN MANY OF THE OTHER DECIDING BODIES TO PROTECT THE PROPERTY VALUES AND LIVELIHOODS OF THE PEOPLE LIVING HERE.

THERE'S SO MUCH THAT WE DO NOT KNOW ABOUT THE NEGATIVE EFFECTS OF LIVING HERE. THE 24/7 RUMABLE AND VIBRATION OF A DATA CENTRE AND ITS POWER SOURCE.

I'VE HEARD IT DESCRIBED SEVERAL WAYS THE MOST INNOCUOUS OF WHICH IS LIKENED TO HAVING A NEIGHBOUR WHO MOWS THEIR LAWN EVERY DAY. 365 DAYS A YEAR.

THE CONSTANT DRONE AND THE CONSTANT VIBRATION ALL DAY AND ALL NIGHT. I UNDERSTAND THAT NOBODY WANTS TO BE TOLD WHAT TO DO WITH THEIR PROPERTY.

BUT THESE DATA CENTERS ARE DIFFERENT.

THEY AFFECT AREAS PAST THEIR PROPERTY LINE VISIBLY AND AUDIBLY. IT IS MY HOPE THAT YOU CAN RECOMMEND SOME SORT OF MORATORIUM AND GIVE US TIME TO LEARN MORE. RESEARCH AND TECHNOLOGY COME UP. IT'S THE LEGACY THAT YOU BELIEVE THAT YOU GUYS MAKE TODAY AND FUTURE POLICY DECISIONS. AND WE WOULD ALL HOPE TO LEAVE A LEGACY LIKE THE AMAZING BROTHER GARY MOSES.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

>> JUST TO CLARIFY. THERE ARE SOME PUNCTUATION ISSUES. I KNOW THIS WILL BE A SHOCK BUT SOCIAL MEDIA WAS INCOMPLETE AND WRONG.

WHATEVER YOU READ THERE ARE NEW RULES UNDER CONSIDERATION

TONIGHT. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> YOU ARE WELCOME. READ THE AGENDA, NOT SOCIAL MEDIA NEXT TIME. OUR NEXT CARDER IS JOSEPH LIAN.

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GOOD EVENING SIR, WELCOME. >> I LIVE HERE IN VICTORIA ON GOODWAY AVENUE. I WOULD ECHO THE STATEMENTS EVERYONE HAS MADE IN OPPOSITION FOR DATA CENTERS HERE.

SO PEOPLE CAN GOTH GATHER AND DETERMINE WHAT IT IS WE WANT IN OUR COMMUNITY WOULD SRNLY BE APPROPRIATE.

I'M A MEMBER OF CONCERNED CITIZENS FOR RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT. AND WE ARE OPPOSED TO ANY DATA CENTERS IN VICTORIA. AS WELL AS INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WILL SUPPORT DATA CENTERS IN CALHOUN OR OTHER SURROUNDING COUNTIES. AND THAT IS SPECIFICALLY REFERRING TO THE BLUE ENERGY DEVELOPMENT AT THE PORT OF VICTORIA. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO BRING OUT IS THAT WHO BENEFITS FROM THIS? CERTAIN LEADERSHIP IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ANYBODY WHO LIVES WITHIN 500 FEET. I'M KIND OF OLD NOW BUT BACK IN THE DAY I COULD THROW A BASEBALL ALMOST 500 FEET.

THAT MEANS YOU COULD HEAR ME YELLING AT 500 FEET, RIGHT.

SO THE 500 FEET THING NEEDS TO BE REVISITED.

BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY WE GOT OAND WE'VE CANVASSED SEVERAL NEIGHBOURHOODS. WE'RE ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

WE MAKE A LOT OF PHONE CALLS TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

NOT JUST MEMBERS AND PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.

BETWEEN 50-- AND THIS TRACKS EVERY TEXAS POLL THAT YOU CAN READ. BETWEEN 50 AND 60% OF PEOPLE POSTED DATA CENTERS IN YOUR COMMUNITY.

50 TO 60%. IN SOME RURAL AREAS IT REACHES 62%. SO PEOPLE WE TALKED TO 25%.

THEY THINK WELL YOU KNOW WE DO NEED JOBS, RIGHT.

WE'RE NOT IN FAVOUR OF DATA CENTERS.

AT LEAST WE'LL GET SOME JOBS OUT OF IT.

MORE DISTURBING TO ME ACTUALLY CAME SOMEWHAT AS A SHOCK BETWEEN 20% OF PEOPLE I TALKED TO SAY TO ME YOU'RE JUST WASTING YOUR TIME. IT'S ALREADY A DONE DEAL.

PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS OR OTHER FORMS OF PAYMENT TO ALLOW DATA CENTERS TO BE BUILT IN MY COMMUNITY.

NOW-- NOW I CAN'T AGREE WITH THAT.

I DON'T THINK ANYONE UP HERE HAS DONE ANYTHING INAPPROPRIATE BUT THAT'S WHAT YOUR CONSTITUENTS THINK.

AND WE'VE-- LIKE I SAID CANVASSED DIFFERENT NEIGHBOURHOODS. WE SPEAK TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND THERE'S REALLY NOBODY THIS ENTHUSIASTICALLY SUPPORTING THIS TO BE HONEST. I'VE TALKED TO A FEW THOUSAND PEOPLE ABOUT THIS, RIGHT. WE'VE KNOCKED DOWN HUNDREDS OF DOORS TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND I'VE YET TO FIND ONE PERSON THAT SAYS THIS IS THE BEST IDEA I'VE EVER SEEN COME TO VICTORIA OF TEXAS FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AND ONE OTHER THING REAL QUICK AND I'LL LEAVE IS THAT FOR AN EXAMPLE OF BLUE ENERGY DEVELOPMENT THEY ARE ASKING FOR HUGE TAX ABATEMENTS.

NOW I UNDERSTAND TAX ABATEMENT IS THE AMOUNT OF MONEY INVESTING IN DEVELOPMENT THAT WON'T BE TAXED ON.

SOME OF THESE ABATEMENTS ARE WELL OVER A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS PER JOB. SO 38 JOBS COMELING FOR THE FIRST PHASE OF THE PLANT IN THE DISTRICT.

38 JOBS. NINE OF WHICH WILL BE LOCAL.

27 OF WHICH. DUE DILIGENCE ON THIS.

WHO IS GOING TO BENEFIT FROM THIS AND WHO IS GOING TO GET THE JOBS. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE YOUR AVERAGE VICTORIAN. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. THE NEXT CARD I HAVE IS THE REVEREND JEFF WILLIAMS. GOOD EVENING SIR, WELCOME.

>> MY NAME IS JEFF WILLIAMS I'M THE PASTOR OF THE PALESTINE MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH. HISTORIC CHURCH.

AND I JUST WANT TO COME BEFORE YOU ON THIS DAY A WHILE BACK YOU HAD AN ITEM ON YOUR AGENDA RECORDING SOME PROPERTY.

AND SOME UNFORTUNATE THINGS THAT HAD HAPPENED TO IT AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOU ALL FOR USING COMMON SENSE IN YOUR EVALUATION OF THE ISSUE AND NOT LETTING RED TAPE GET US UPHELD FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO DO WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO.

WE DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SAY THANK YOU TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. I THANK YOU FOR THE EFFORTS THAT WENT INTO IT. I ALSO THANK CITY MANAGER, JOSE GARZA AND CITY ATTORNEY ALLISON LACY FOR THEIR ERTS IN WHAT THEY DID TO HELP GET THIS PROBLEM RECTIFIED FOR US.

SO ON BEHALF OF OUR C CONGREGATION, WE JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AGAIN. AND LOOK FORWARD TO IF THERE ARE ANY OPPORTUNITIES WE AT PALESTINE MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH CAN WORK WITH YOU IN ANY KIND OF WAY.

WE ARE OPEN TO DOING THAT. COME VISIT US.

WELCOME TO COME WORSHIP WITH US.

GLORIFY GOD AND THE LOVE OF JESUS CHRIST IS EXEMPLIFIED SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH AGAIN FOR YOUR ISSUE FOR TAKING THE TIME

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>> FINAL CARD I HAVE IS MR. JOHN SWANSON.

GOOD EVENING MR. SWANSON. WELCOME BACK.

>> THANK YOU. I WANTED TO COME DOWN AND TELL YOU I THINK YOU'RE DOING A GOOD JOB.

I ALSO WANT TO RECOGNIZE GARY MOSES.

HE WAS A GREAT-- I FEEL LIKE I KNEW A VIP.

GARY COULD GO ANYWHERE AND BE WITH ANYBODY AND HE WOULD STAND OUT. AND I FEEL LIKE HE WAS A GREAT CITIZEN FOR VICTORIA. EXAMPLE FOR EVERYBODY.

AND I'VE WORKED WITH HIM PERSONALLY.

SO I KNOW GARY MOSES. GREAT CITIZEN OF OUR CITY.

ANOTHER GUY I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE REAL QUICKLY AND BRIEFLY IS TOM HALIKASPA. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL REMEMBER TOM. BUT MY DEALINGS WITH TOM DEALT WITH BUSINESS. SMALL BUSINESS.

AND DISCUSSIONS WE HAVE. I'M GOING THROUGH VICTORIA NOW.

AND WE'VE GOT A LOT OF VACANT BUILDINGS.

TOO MANY VACANT BUILDINGS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CAUSE IS BUT SOMETHING IS GOING ON AND YOU ALL JUST BE SENSITIVE TO WHATEVER IS THE ISSUE HERE. BUT WE HAVE TOO MANY.

AND RIGHT NOW I'VE LOOKED FOR THIS BUILDING TO BE VACANT.

BUT I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE BIGGERER PLANS AND GREATER THINGS FOR IT. BUT THAT IS A POSITIVE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION BUT IN CONCERT WITH SO MANY OTHER THINGS.

I'M SHORT ON TIME. THAT WE ALL ARE BLESSED INCLUDING YA'LL. FOR CITIZENS INPUT.

A COUPLE OF GUYS THAT ARE-- MAN THEY ARE REALLY GOOD.

ON FINANCE STUFF THAT'S VERY HELPFUL I THINK FOR THE CITY I FIND THEM HELPFUL AND VALUABLE THAT WE WANT TO CONSIDER.

THERE'S OTHER STUFF GOING ON AND I KNOW YOU HAVE TO SORT THROUGH THE GOOD AND THE BAD. BUT-- AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

HONESTLY I DO APPRECIATE THAT YOU ARE ABLE TO SORT THROUGH.

WE HAVE TOO MUCH FIRE DEPARTMENT.

I DON'T FEEL LIKE MY INPUT IS BE TOUGH.

YOU NEED A BACKBONE. I'M BEHIND YOU.

TO MAKE THEM TOE THE LINE. WAY TOO MUCH WE CAN'T AFFORD THEM. AND IN THE INTEREST OF TIME I WOULD LIKE TO YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.

>> THANK YOU. >> WE WILL CLOSE OUT CITIZENS

[1. An ordinance amending Chapter 21, The Unified Development Ordinance, o...]

OR ITEMS WITH PUBLIC HEARING. WE HAVE ONE ITEM TONIGHT.

ITEM C1. ORDER NANCE AMENDING CHAPTER ONE UNIFIED CITY OF CODE OF ORDINANCES ON FIRST READING.

>> GOOD EVENING. >> BACK AGAIN MORE PROPOSED UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS.

FIRST ONE IS REALLY JUST A CLEAN UP.

THESE PANEL NUMBERS THAT ARE SHOWING TO BE DELETED ARE IN OLD AFFECTED MAPS. IN 2024 FEMA ADOPTED NEW MAPS SO THESE REFERENCES NEED TO BE DELETED FROM THE OR NANCE AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO GENERALLY REFER TO THE FIRM INSURANCE RATE MAPS THAT WERE EFFECTIVE WITH A NEW EFFECTIVE DATE FOR OUR COMMUNITY. THE SECOND IS TO ADD A USE OF BUS DEPOT AND I WILL EXPLAIN THAT DEFINITION AND WHAT THAT MEANS. IN ANOTHER SECTION OF MY PRESENTATION. NOW THE MEAT OF IT.

WHICH IS OUR USE SPECIFIC STANDARDS.

THE FIRST DOES DEAL WITH DATA CENTERS.

SO IF YOU WILL REMEMBER BACK IN APRIL OF 2025, WE ADOPTED THE FIRST-EVER REGULATIONS WE HAD ON DATA CENTERS PREVIOUSLY THE ORDINANCE DID NOT HAVE ANY REGULATIONS PERTAINING TO DATA CENTERS BECAUSE OF COURSE IT IS SERVING A NEW TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE. AND WE WERE BEING REACTIVE AT THAT TIME. BECAUSE WE DID HAVE A FACILITY THAT WAS COMING IN AND BEING PERMITTED.

AND SO THE LANGUAGE IN BLACK IS OF COURSE OUR EXISTING LANGUAGE. SO CURRENTLY DATA CENTERS AND CRYPTO MINING FARMS SHALL NOT PRODUCE MORE THAN 55 DECIBELS

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AND CRYPTO MINING FARMS ALONE SHALL BE LOCATED AT LEAST 500 FEET FROM ANY RESIDENTIAL USE AS MEASURED FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. SO WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS TO ADD THE LANGUAGE SHOWN IN BLUE TO THE ORDINANCE.

WHICH ADDS THAT DATA CENTERS AND CRYPTO MINING FARMS SHALL UTILIZE CLOSED LOOP COOLING PRACTICES OR SIMILAR COOLING TECHNOLOGY THAT E LIMB NATES THE NEED FOR THE FACILITY TO CONTINUOUSLY DRAW FRESH WATER FROM THE PUBLIC WATER SUPPLY FOR THE PURPOSE OF COOLING E EQUIPMENT AND THE FACILITY AND BE PROHIBITED FROM USING AN OPEN LOOP COOLING OR EVAPORATED COOLING METHODS. AS WELL AS EXPANDING THAT 500 FEET FROM ANY RESIDENTIAL USE TO INCLUDE DATA CENTERS AS WELL. CURRENTLY LIKE I SAID IT'S ONLY FOR THE CRYPTO MINING FARMS. SO THIS WOULD EXPAND THAT PROHIBITION TO INCLUDE ALSO DATA CENTERS.

AND THAT THEY WOULD BE MEASURED FROM PROPERTY LINE TO PROPERTY LINE. WHICH MEANS OF COURSE ADJACENT PROPERTIES DOES NOT MEET THE 500 FEET.

BUT IT'S IMPORTANT-- WE CHOSE-- WE'RE ASKING YOU TO REGULATE IT BY PROPERTY LINE BECAUSE IT'S A LOT EASIER TO REGULATE.

WHERE IF IT WAS NOT, YOU HAVE A FIVE ACRE SITE.

AND YOU HAVE A DATA CENTER IN THE MIDDLE OF IT.

WE WOULD HAVE TO FIND OUT WHERE THE PROPOSED USE IS GOING TO BE LOCATED MEASURE FROM THAT PROPOSED BUILDING SITE.

TO THE NEAREST RESIDENTIAL SITE.

AND SO IT JUST GETS A LOT MORE COMPLICATED AND PLANNERS LIKE TO PLAN AS MUCH AS WE CAN ON THE FRONT END RATHER THAN THE BACK END. ALSO THESE ARE MUCH MORE HARD DATA MEASUREMENTS. SO THE LYNCH PIN OF ALL OF OUR REGULATIONS IS THE 55 DECIBELS THAT IS A FAIRLY LOW STANDARD.

YOUR TYPICAL LAWN MOWER HITS AT 75 TO 95 DECIBELS.

SO NO DATA CENTER OR CRYPTO MINING FARM CURRENTLY IN VICTORIA SHALL OPERATE MORE THAN 55 DECIBELS ANY SOUND HEARD FROM A PROPERTY LINE. BUT THAT IS AN OPERATIONAL REQUIREMENT MEANING THAT SOMEONE CAN COME IN, BUILD A DATA CENTER. IF IT EXCEEDS THAT 55 DECIBELS THEN IT BECOMES A CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITY SO STAFF OF COURSE HAS TO BUILD A CASE AND SUBMIT CHARGES AND SO IT JUST BECOMES A LOT HARDER TO REGULATE WHEN IT'S AN OPERATIONAL STANDARD. SO WE ARE NOT PROPOSING TO ELIMINATE THAT. IT IS A VERY GOOD STANDARD AND THE LYNCH PIN OF WHAT OUR RULES ARE SAYING AS FAR AS SIZE AND SCALE BECAUSE OF THAT 55 DECIBELS IT WILL KEEP ANYTHING AT A SMALLER SCALE. BUT WE PREFER REGULATIONS THAT ARE EASIER TO REGULATE ON THE FRONT END AND AREN'T THOSE OPERATIONAL TYPE WHICH IS WHY WE ARE PROPOSING TO EXPAND THE 500 FOOT BOUNDARY TO INCLUDE ALSO DATA CENTERS.

BEFORE I MOVE ON, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> YEAH I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST THAT.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS PORTION?

>> I DO. CLEARLY THERE'S PUBLIC INTEREST IN THIS. AND RECOGNIZING THAT WE'VE PUT THIS IN PLACE AS A RESULT OF NEEDING TO ADDRESS THAT AT THE CITY LEVEL. WHY DO WE CHOOSE 500 FEET? UNDERSTAND THE PROPERTY LINE AND REVISION.

>> SURE. IF YOU LOOK AT OUR EXISTING--.

>> I WANT TO BACK UP A LITTLE BIT.

SO-- AND WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE STARTED HERE BUT I THINK IT'S HELPFUL FOR CONTEXT. SO WE DON'T HAVE ZONING.

WE DON'T HAVE A ZONING ORDINANCE.

IF WE DID, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO BE MORE STRICT RESTRICT WV ANY KIND OF USE. IN THE ABSENCE OF HAVING A ZONING ORDINANCE WE ADOPTED THE U.D.O. AND BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A ZONING MAP, THE ONLY WAY THAT WE CAN INFLUENCE THE PHYSICAL LOCATION OF DIFFERENT USES IS BY BEING CREATIVE WITH THE VERBIAGE AND CREATING A FOOT PARAMETER.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO PROVIDE THAT CONTEXT BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE THE SAME POWERS THAT MOST CITIES HAVE. IT IS TRUE THAT MUNICIPALITIES HAVE GREATERER AUTHORITY OVER DEVELOPMENT THAN SAY COUNTIES DO. BUT WE DON'T HAVE A ZONING ORDINANCE WHICH IS A TOOL MOST CITIES ORGANIZE WHICH AGAIN PUTS US IN THIS POSITION OF HAVING TO USE THIS KIND OF MECHANISM. SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.

BUT I'LL LET YOU ADDRESS THE WHY 500.

>> SO WE HAVE IN OUR LAND USE, USE SPECIFIC STANDARDS WE HAVE SEVERAL USES THAT HAVE A DISTANCE REQUIREMENT.

AND THEY ARE 500, A THOUSAND OR MAX WOULD BE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USES LIKE SLAURTH HOUSES 1500. SO THE 500 WAS MORE IN LINE

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CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS 211 OR 212.

ONE SUBDIVISION ONE ZONING. UNDER THOSE CHAPTERERS WE DON'T HAVE-- ADOPTED THE FULL EXPANSIVE CHAPTER AND THE AUTHORITY OF THOSE ON THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.

BUT BECAUSE WE DO HAVE REGULATIONS THAT ARE USE SPECIFIC AND ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO FOR EXAMPLE LANDSCAPING. IN THE PREVIOUS STRUCTURE OF THE ORDINANCE, EVERYTHING WAS PERMIT BASED.

SO IF A PERMIT REQUIRED YOU TO PUT A TREE IN AND YOU CO'D THAT AND CLOSED OUT AND SOMEONE WANTED TO TEAR DOWN THAT TREE THERE WASN'T ANY RECOURSE. BY ADOPTING THIS UNDER THAT CHAPTER WE CAN SAY NO THAT WAS BASED OFF OF THAT TREE.

SO WE STILL HAVE TO SOMEWHAT PAY ATTENTION TO SOME OF THE ZONING LAWS. ONE WOULD BE THAT EXCLUSIONARY ZONING SO WE DON'T WANT TO SAY A FIVE MILE RADIUS.

OR HAVE SO MANY BUBBLES WHERE YOU CANNOT DO IT THAT WE EFFECTIVELY EXCLUDE IT COMPLETELY THROUGHOUT THE CITY OR WE MAY RUN AFOUL OF STATE LAW.

BUT THE 500 FEET WAS MORE IN LINE WITH SOME OF THE LESS-- USES KNOWING THAT WE ALSO HAVE THE REGULATION OF THE 55

DECIBELS. >> I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT 500 FEET EXTENDED. 500 FOOT IS A FOOTBALL FIELD AND A HALF WHICH IS NOT VERY FAR WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A RESIDENTIAL AREA. AND WHILE I APPRECIATE THE 55 DECIBEL, I KNOW THERE ARE SOME DATA CENTERS THAT OPERATE WITH A LOW FREQUENCY. AUDIBLE THAT ISN'T A DECIBEL THAT YOU WOULD RECOGNIZE IN A LAWN MOWERER-ESQUE SENSE.

BUT BE MORER OF A LOW RUMBLE THAT WOULD BE A DETERRENT THAT WOULD AFFECT ANIMALS. COULD POTENTIALLY AFFECT INDIVIDUALS WITH NEUROLOGICAL IMPAIRMENTS.

SO I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE THE 500 FOOT EXTENDED.

AND THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT IS WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING RELATED TO ELECTRICITY.

WE'VE ADDRESSED WATER BUT NOT ELECTRICITY USAGE.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COULD BE ADDED TO THE UDO.

>> THAT WOULD TAKE MORE RESEARCH ON OUR PART FOR SURE.

I HAVEN'T SEEN A LOT OF REGULATIONS THAT ADDRESS THE ELECTRICITY SIDE AND THAT MIGHT BE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF CITIES THAT DO NOT PROVIDE THEIR OWN E LEK TRISTY.

>> CORRECT. IT'S NOT A UTILITY WE OVERSEE

OR ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR. >> THAT IS A-- ISSUE AND THERE'S BEEN NEW LEGISLATION THAT FORCES THEM TO REGULATION HOW THE POWER IS USED FROM THESE DATA CENTERS.

>> OKAY. >> I HAVE A QUESTION.

IF WE WERE TO EXPAND THAT 500 FEET OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO VIOLATE WHATEVER STATUTES APPLY TO THIS. AND I KNOW I'M ASKING YOU COLD ON YOUR FEET, DO YOU HAVE A RANGE THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY BE FINE FALLING WITHIN? OR A MAXIMUM DISTANCE?

>> OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE HAS A MAX OF 1500 FOR OTHER USES.

SO WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE WAY BACK WITH CONSULTANT THERE WAS A LOT OF BUFFERS THAT WERE DONE ON DIFFERENT SITES FOR THE 1500 FEET SO WE FELT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. WE CAN OF COURSE IF THERE'S ANOTHER THAT GETS THROWN OUT WE CAN TRY AND DO THAT ANALYSIS OURSELVES BUT THERE IS OTHER USES IN THE ORDER NANCE THAT

SPEAKS TO 1500 FEET. >> MORE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL? OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> A COMMENT QUESTION. THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION WE'VE HEARD FROM THE CITIZEN COMMUNICATION.

ALSO ASKING FOR A MORATORIUM. WHILE I'M NOT ADVOCATING ONE, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY.

THAT WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEFORE US TONIGHT.

WE CAN MAKE AN AMEND LT TO THAT.

BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ON OUR AGENDA THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO CREATE A MORATORIUM AT THIS TIME.

>> CORRECT. THAT'S A SEPARATE STATUTE.

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>> I ALSO WANT TO NOTE THERE'S CURRENTLY NO ACTIVE PERMITS THAT HAVE BEEN FILED WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TO BUILD A DATA CENTER. SO THESE AMENDMENTS ARE PROACTIVE WHEREAS OUR FIRST SHOT AT REGULATING THEM.

THE ORDER NANCE WE ADOPTED 18 MONTHS AGO WAS MORE REACTIVE.

OF COURSE THAT DOESN'T MEAN SOMEONE WON'T COME AND APPLY

FOR A PERMIT TOMORROW. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

YES? >> UNDER B HERE.

IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S A LOOSE-- WAY THAT THEY COULD FIND A WAY TO DRAW WATER FROM THE CITY'S PUBLIC WATER SUPPLY.

SOME SHAPE FORM OR FASHION. SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF IFS, ANDS OR BUTS. THE CLOSED LOOP COOLING PRACTICES ORRER COOLING TECHNOLOGY THAT E LIMB NATES THE NEED TO FACILITATE THE CONTINUOUS FRESH WATER.

SO WOULD THERE BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD NOT BE CONTINUOUS? LIKE EVERY NOW AND THEN? IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S JUST

NOT STRONG ENOUGH. >> SO WE DO HAVE A DEFINITION THAT I CAN PULL UP. IN COMPANION TO IT.

BUT YOU DO HAVE TO PROVIDE WATER TO A CLOSED LOOP SYSTEM.

TO BEGIN WITH. SO THE DEFINITION IS A COOLING SYSTEM UTILIZED BY DATA CENTERS AND OR CRYPTO MINING FARMS THAT CONTINUOUSLY CIRCULATES WATER AND PREVENTS WATER FROM BEING LOST THROUGH EVAPORATION AND MINIMIZES THE OVERALL AMOUNT OF WATER USE. BUT YOU DO HAVE TO SUPPLY THAT SYSTEM WITH WATER TO BEGIN WITH.

>> WHO IS GOING TO REGULATE THAT PART? THE CITY? AND HOW MUCH WATER THEY HAVE LOST THROUGH EVAPORATE AND HAVE TO REPLACE?

>> SO IN THE PERMITTING SIDE, WE WOULD REQUIRE ENGINEERS TO BE CERTIFYING THE CLOSED LOOP SYSTEM AND THE OVERSIGHT WOULD BE DONE AT THE CONSTRUCTION. OF COURSE BECAUSE WE DID IT UNDER THE ZONING AUTHORITY, IF WE SAW BIG WATER SPIKE USE OR SOMETHING WE COULD THEN OF COURSE USE THAT JUST TO GO DO SOME INVESTIGATION AND IF THEY WERE IN VIOLATION BECAUSE THEIR CLOSED LOOP SYSTEM WAS FAILING, IT WOULD BE OF COURSE IN VIOLATION OF THE ORDINANCE. BUT MOST OF IT WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED OR I GUESS REGULATED AT THE FRONT END WITH PART OF THEIR BUILDING PERMITS. WE WOULD REQUIRE ENGINEERS TO BE CERTIFIES THAT IT COMPLIES WITH ALL OF THIS.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT?

OKAY. >> AN OPEN LOOP COOLING IS ALSO DEFINED THAT RELIES ON WATER EVAPORATION.

OR DIRECT AIR COOLING. SO I WILL GO BACK TO THE REST

OF THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE. >> THANK YOU.

>> SO THE NEXT NEW REGULATION THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS ALSO REGARDING BUS DEPOTS, BUS TERMINALS IN THE DOWNTOWN HISTORIC DISTRICT. IN THE OVERLAYS SPECIAL SECTION WE HAVE HISTORIC OVERLAY STANDARDS AND THEN DIFFERENT HISTORIC DISTRICTS WHICH OF COURSE DOWNTOWN BEING OUR LARGEST AND MOST RECOGNIZABLE AND SOME RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS CAN COME NEAR DOWNTOWN. SO THIS IS THE LIST OF PROHIBITED USES WITHIN HISTORIC DISTRICTS AND WE ARE PROPOSING TO ADD BUS DEPOT. BUS TERMINAL WHICH I HAVE DEFINITIONS THAT WILL SHOW THIS.

BUT A BUS TERMINAL IS NOT A BUS STOP BASICALLY.

SO WE HAVE DEFINED TRANSITION STATIONS STOPS GETTING ON AND OFF IN A BUS TERMINAL BEGINNING OR END.

SO TRANSIT STOPS WOULD NOT BE PROHIBITED IN HISTORIC DISTRICTS BUT WE WOULD BE PROPOSING TO PROHIBIT BUS DEPOTS AND HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USES.

WHICH DOWNTOWN IS SO RESIDENTIAL.

A LOT OF THOSE ARE CLOSER THAN 1500 FEET ANYWAY BUT JUST TO DOUBLE UP AND MAKE SURE. THIS IS JUST A CORRECTION IN A SECTION REFERENCE. AND THESE ARE SOME CLEAN-UPS ON THE ACTUAL NUMBER OF BLACK LINE COPYS THAT WE MADE IN THE REVIEW OF MYAR PLATS. AGAIN THESE ARE ADMINISTRATIVE CLEAN-UP OF FILING FEES THAT NEED TO GO TO THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE AND HOW MANY PLAT COPIES WE NEED.

AND THEN THIS IS THE MEAT OF SOME OF THE ORDINANCE AS YOU READ IT AND YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO REFER TO THE DEFINITIONS OF WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? BUS DEPOT A FACILITY USED BY TRANSPORTATION DESIGNED FOR STORING, MAINTAINING OR CLEARING. BUS LOT OR BUS BARN IS WHERE

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A BUS TERMINAL IS TYPICALLY WHAT YOU THINK MORE OF A GREYHOUND BUS BUT IT COULD BE ALSO LOCAL TRANSIT IF IT IS A PRIMARY HUB FOR ROUTES TO DISPERSE AT.

ROUTES BEGINNING AND ENDING THERE.

CAN BE KNOWN AS TRANSIT CENTRE BUT NOT A BUS STOP.

THE KEY IS THE HUB OF BEGINNING AND ENDING ROUTES.

AND THE CLOSED LOOP, OPEN LOOP SYSTEM AND THE TRANSIT STATION AND THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE WAIT FOR TRANSPORTATION SERVICES.

THAT'S A BUS STOP. AND THAT COVERS ALL OF THE

PROPOSED AMOUNTEDMENTS. >> GOOD.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT. NOT AT THIS TIME.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT THANK YOU MS. FULGREM I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT. I'M SORRY-- PLEASE DON'T INTERRUPT THE MEETING. WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY YOU CAN COME UP AND SAY IT AT THAT TIME. THIS IS NOT AN OPEN QUESTION AND ANSWER SESSION. SO AT THIS TIME I WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING WITH RESPECT TO ITEM C1.

ANYONE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME. AGAIN I'D ASK THAT YOU PLEASE

BE MINDFUL OF THE TIME LIMIT. >> SURE MY NAME IS JOSEPH NAPOLITANO I JUST SPOKE AND A COUPLE COMMENTS.

ANY AI DATA CENTER HAS ON SITE BACK-UP POWER TYPICALLY EITHER GAS, FIRE GENERATORS ORRER DIESEL FIRE GENERATORS AND SO THERE'S NOT ONE THAT I'VE EVERER BEEN AROUND AND I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY MY WHOLE LIFE THAT WOULD FALL WITHIN 55 DECIBELS SO THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED. NOT ONLY WOULD IT BE USED IF THERE ARE A POWER OUTAGE. STANDARDS REQUIRE THAT THAT UNIT BE TESTED WEEKLY, MONTHLY AND QUARTERLY FOR SPECIFIC DURATIONS OF TIME. AND ANUALLY UNDER LOAD FOR A CERTAIN NUMBER OF HOURS. SO IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 1500 FEET OR A THOUSAND FEET OR 500 THAT NOISE LEVEL NEEDS TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. AND THE OTHER ISSUE I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS IS CLOSED LOOP. CLOSED LOOPS HAVE TO BE DRAINED. THAT MEANS WATER HAS TO BE TAKEN OUT AND RECYCLED SOMEHOW. SO THERE NEEDS TO BE PROVISION OF OUR STANDARDS OF HOW THAT IS GOING TO BE HANDLED.

IT CANNOT BE JUST PUT DOWN THE DRAIN AS FREQUENTLY THEY CONTAIN CHEMICALS THAT ARE TOXIC.

AND THE OTHER THING IS THAT WITH CLOSED LOOP SYSTEMS, YOU'RE TRADING ONE THING FOR ANOTHER.

BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE EVAPORATION AT THE SITE, BUT WE USE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WATER THE WAY WE GENERATE ELECTRICITY IN TEXAS. GAS FIRED POWERER PLANTS SO WE'RE USING LESS WATER HERE BUT AT THE POWER PLANT WE'RE GOING TO USE A LOT MORE WATER. HOW DO THEY REMOVE THE HEAT FROM THE LOOP LINES WITH BIG FANS AND THAT'S THE SOURCE OF THE NOISE EVERYONE IS TALKING ABOUT RIGHT.

SO YOU KIND OF PUSH ONE PROBLEM AWAY FROM US INTO ANOTHER AREA THAT'S POWER GENERATION. THAT'S IT.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. PLEASE CONSIDER THOSE THINGS BECAUSE JUST SOMETHING ELSE I WOULD SUGGEST IS THAT POSSIBLEY ON THE STANDARDS WE'RE GOING TO DEVELOP, WE HAVE SOME FOLKS THAT HAVE KNOWLEDGE AND SKILL AND INDUSTRY TO SIT ON THOSE.

SO WE CAN BRING UP THINGS LIKE GENERATORS AND THE SWITCHING OF E VAP RATION FROM OPEN LOOP SYSTEMS TO CLOSED LOOP TO POWER GENERATION. BY THE WAY POWERER GENERATION USES MORE WATER THAN ANY OPEN LOOP SYSTEM WILL USE.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS COUNCIL ON ITEM C1 PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME.

GOOD EVENING MA'AM, WELCOME. >> GOOD EVENING I'M POLY SIS KOE. NEW PLANT FROM WISCONSIN.

DOWN HERE LIVING IN VICTORIA COUNTY.

I'M NOT REAL UP TO DATE ON ALL OF YOUR GOVERNANCE.

BUT I'M WONDERING IF YOU CANNOT DO A MORATORIUM, COULD IT POSSIBLY BE A SITUATION WHERE THIS COULD GO TO REFERENDUM AND YOU COULD ACTUALY ALLOW THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF VICTORIA. BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THIS PROPOSAL WILL BE TAKING PLACE. TO ALLOW THEM TO VOTE FOR THIS? IS THERE ANYTHING TO PREVENT A REFERENDUM?

>> THIS IS A COMMENT PERIOD. NOT A QUESTION AND ANSWER.

>> OH I DON'T GET TO ASK A QUESTION.

WELL I'LL JUST THROW THAT OUT THERE.

SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. AND THEN THE SECOND PART WOULD BE WHILE I APPRECIATE HOW LEARNED YOU ALL ARE, YOU'RE OUT OF YOUR DEPTH ON THIS ONE. I DON'T MEAN TO INSULT ANYBODY.

>> OH YOU'VE ALREADY DONE THAT. SAYING WE TAKE BRIBES.

YOU'VE ALREADY DONE THAT. >> I'M SORRY.

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SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT PUTTING INTO PLAY, YOU'RE NOT COVERING EVERYTHING.

AND I'VE SEEN A LOT OF COMMUNITIES THAT WISH THEY WOULD HAVE SOUGHT OUT MORE COUNCIL IN COMING UP WITH A PLAN AND HOW TO PROTECT THEIR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I'M SORRY IF I INSULTED YOU.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS? I DON'T HAVE CARDS SO PLEASE COME FORWARD. GOOD EVENING SIR WOULD YOU

STATE YOUR NAME PLEASE? >> YES, SIR GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. MY NAME'S AVI PATEL.

I WENT TO SCHOOL HERE DID FOUR YEARS AT UHV NOW A&M VICTORIA.

AS EVERYONE IS TALKING ABOUT THE BAD EFFECTS OF DATA CENTERS, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO GO OVER WHAT-- HOW IT COULD BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY AND THE BUSINESSES.

AS WE KNOW ALL OVER THE NEWS BUSINESSES ARE CLOSING DOWN.

RESTAURANTS SHUTTING DOWN OR BEING BOUGHT OUT STUFF LIKE THAT. I HAVE A SMALL THING TO SAY.

WE UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS ALTHOUGH I'M NOT A CITIZEN OR RESIDENT OF VICTORIA BUT I DO HAVE SPENT MOST OF MY TIME THAT I'VE LIVED IN TEXAS AND VICTORIA GOING TO SCHOOL AND WORKING HERE. AND IT'S KIND OF IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE BENEFITS OF IT. I UNDERSTAND THAT ANY DATA CENTER MUST BE CAREERFULLY REGULATED OBVIOUSLY IT'S MEANINGFUL. WE HAVE TO CARE ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY FIRST BEFORE ANY OF THAT COMES.

AND THE IMPACT ON WATER POWER NOISE INFRASTRUCTURE AND NEARBY RESIDENTS THAT RESIDE FROM THOSE PLANTS.

AT THE SAME TIME I WANT TO EXPRESS STRONG SUPPORT FOR OPEN HOSPITALTY BRINGING IN NEW BUSINESS TO OUR COUNTY OVER THE PAST YEARS. OUR COMMUNITY HAVE LOST MANY PROJECTS. SOME BIG SOME SMALL THAT COULD HAVE PROPELLED OUR ECONOMY FORWARD.

BUT AT THIS POINT THERE'S SO MUCH STAGNANT WITH NO-- ALTHOUGH TRYING TO DO AMAZING JOB WITH THE PIPELINE ALREADY.

BUT WE ARE GETTING A LOT OF PUSHBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY.

BUT I'M SURE YOU GUYS ARE COMPETENT ENOUGH TO MAKE DECISIONS WHERE YOU THINK OF NOT ONLY THE COMMUNITY BUT ALSO THE ECONOMY OF VICTORIA AND SO IT'S-- VICTORIA HAS MANY HOTELS, HIGHWAYS BUSINESSES AND SERVICES TO SUPPORT CONSTRUCTION CREWS AND CORPORATE TRAVELLERS.

WE'RE READY TO GO. WE JUST NEED SOMETHING TO COME AND START DEVELOPING IN VICTORIA SO THAT WE DON'T STAY STAGNANT IN OUR ECONOMY KEEPS THRIVING AND WE'RE NOT ASKING OFFICIALS TO IGNORE LEGITIMATE CONCERNS.

OBVIOUSLY THOSE HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED FIRST.

BUT WE ARE ASKING THEM TO FIND RESPONSIBLE SOLUTIONS SO VIKTORER YA' DOES NOT CONTINUE LOSING ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES TO OTHER CITIES AND STATES POTENTIALLY.

LOCAL HOTELIERS AND BUSINESSES ARE ALREADY READY TO SUPPORT AND HELP WELCOME THEM IN THE FUTURE.

ANOTHER THING IF WE ARE GOING TO HALT THOSE PROJECTS OR NOT LET THEM OR NOT WELCOME THEM, IT'S IMPORTANT TO ADDRESS PERMITTING ISSUES AS WELL LIKE HOTELS FOR EXAMPLE.

WE CONSISTENTLY GET-- IN THE CITY WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT MUCH BUT WE WILL SEE A LOT OF PERMITS APPROVED BUT WE HAVE SO MANY HOE TELLS ALREADY ORDERED UP IN TOWN THAT WHEN THERE IS NO WORK WHEN THE ECONOMY IS NOT THRIVING WE ARE ALL SCRAMBLING FRLER CLIENTS. SO IT'S IMPORTANT IF YOU GUYS CAN TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AS WELL AND THANK

YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

THE PUBLIC HEARING REMAINS OPEN.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS COUNCIL?

PLEASE COME FORWARD. >> INTERESTING.

BUT MY CONFIDENCE IS IN YA'LL. OKAY.

YA'LL ARE TAKING THE TIME AND EFFORT TO GO THROUGH THIS STUFF. LET ME OFFER A CONSIDERATION.

I'VE HEARD BERMS, TREES, REALLY KNOCK A LOT OF NOISE OUT.

IF NOISE IS THE ISSUE. THE WATER AND ENERGY SIDE IS A CONSERVATION OF ENERGY LAW. AND YOU HAVE-- THAT'S A TOUGHER ONE. BUT YOU GUYS CAN DO IT.

BUT DON'T BE SWAYED BY A FEW THAT WANT GOVERNMENT TO TELL YOU HOW TO DO IT. TRUST THE AMERICAN ENTREPRENEURS ALSO. TELL THEM THE RULES YOU WANT AND GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO FIGURE IT OUT.

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THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS COUNCIL AT THIS TIME,

PLEASE COME FORWARD. >> HI.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION AND THE THOUGHT YOU'RE PUTTING INTO THIS. IT REALLY MAKES ME FEEL HEARD AS A CITIZEN AND I FEEL LIKE IT MAKES EVERYONE HERE FEEL HEARD.

AND I WILL GET BACK TO THAT PERSON ON SOCIAL MEDIA THAT SLAMMED WHAT YOU SAID. I'M GETTING RIGHT SO THREE BASIC COMMENTS. AS FAR AS WATER GOES, THERE HAVE BEEN COMMENTS ABOUT WATER USAGE FOR CLOSED LOOP WHICH IS DEFINITELY BETTER THAN OPEN BUT THEN THERE ARE ALSO NON-WATER COOLING SOLUTIONS AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE AWARE THERE WAS A LEGISLATIVE NATIONAL RESOURCE COMMISSION HELD IN AUSTIN I BELIEVE LAST TUESDAY OR TUESDAY BEFORE BUT VERY RECENTLY. THE COMMITTEE REQUESTED THE DATA CENTERS BRING INFORMATION ON HOW MUCH WATER THEY USE.

AND VERY FEW OF THE DATA CENTERS PRESENT BROUGHT ANY INFORMATION AT ALL ABOUT THEIR WATER USAGE.

THEY JUST IGNORED THAT REQUEST AND TO ME THAT WAS TELLING.

MY SECOND COMMENT IS ABOUT CODES AND FINES.

THE DECIBEL LIMIT KEEPING IT LOW IS GREAT.

BUT ONE, IF IT GOES ON ALL DAY LONG NO MATTER HOW LOW IT IS, LIKE MS. BUTLER WAS SAYING, ALL DAY LONG THE VIBRATION AND ALL OF THAT-- YOU KNOW YOU MOW YOUR LAWN FOR TWO HOURS BUT ALL DAY LONG IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT SEVEN DAYS A WEEK ALL YEAR LONG.

AND I HAVE PERSONAL EXPERIENCE IN MY NEIGHBOURHOOD WITH A CODE VIOLATION. IT TOOK PROBABLY SEVEN YEARS TO GET THE SOLUTION. THERE WAS A BUILDING BUILT AND THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THEIR TRASH COMPACTER THING HIDDEN FROM VIEW FROM THE NEIGHBOURHOOD.

AND THE CONTRACTORER DIDN'T DO THAT.

SO THE HOA CALLED CODE ENFORCEMENT ASK THEY WENT OUT, TOOK PICTURES AND SENT LETTERSER.

AND IT TOOK SEVEN YEARS BECAUSE THEY JUST KEPT PAYING THE FINE.

THEY HAD PLENTY OF MONEY. AND THESE DATA CENTERS ARE LIKE FORMOSA. IF THEIR DECIBELS GO OVER 55 THEY HAVE SO MUCH MONEY THEY ARE JUST GOING TO PAY THE FINE AND BLOW YOU OFF. I'M NOT TRYING TO BE RUDE I'M JUST SAYING THEY HAVE DEEP POCKETS.

LASTLY THE COMMENT ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, I LOVE VICTORIA AND I WANT IT TO GROW AND BE GREAT.

WE HAVE ALL THIS CULTURE AND EVENTS, BUT WE NEED TO BE RESPONSIBLE IN THE DEVELOPMENT WE BRING AND DATA CENTERS HAVE SHOWN THAT THEY DO NOT BRING LONG-TERM JOBS.

THEY BRING A FEW MONTHS OF CONSTRUCTION AND THEN YOU HAVE ABOUT SIX PEOPLE OUT THERE MOWING THE GRASS AND MOPPING FLOORS AND EVERYTHING IS DONE REMOTELY.

AND IT TAKES JOBS. AI WILL TAKE THE CODING JOBS FROM OUR KIDS GRADUATING WITH ENGINEERING DEGREES.

HOW MANY OF VIEWS USED A PHONE AND GOTTEN A ROBOT INSTEAD OF A PERSON. THOSE ARE JOBS THAT USED TO BE HELD BY HUMAN BEINGS AND THE AI TECH GUYS ARE SAYING THIS IS GOING TO BE SO GREAT WHEN WE HAVE AI TO HELP YOU WITH YOUR JOB. YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO HAVE TO WORK THREE FOUR DAYS A WEEK. WELL YOUR COMPANY'S NOT GOING TO PAY YOU FOR FIVE DAYS OF WORK IF YOU ONLY COME IN TWO DAYS. THAT'S NOT A REAL LIFE SITUATION. THOSE ARE MY THREE COMMENTS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LISTENING.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. ANY OTHER INDIVIDUAL WISHING TO ADDRESS COUNCIL AT THIS TIME AS PART OF THIS HEARING PROCESS.

SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

YEP. GO AHEAD.

>> I APPRECIATE SO MUCH THE DISCUSSION THAT YOU ALL HAD AFTER THE COMMENT PERIOD. I SEE YA'LL HAVE CONCERNS TOO AND YOU'VE BEEN GETTING INFORMATION ON HOW DESTRUCTIVE THESE DATA CENTERS HAVE BEEN ON THE COMMUNITIES WHERE THEY EXIST. I NEVER HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THEM UNTIL MAYBE APRIL OF THIS YEAR AND I STARTED SEEING SO MANY STORIES ABOUT SMELLY BROWN WATER COMING OUT OF A COMMUNITY'S TAPS BECAUSE THE DATA CENTERS ARE SUCK OUT SO MUCH THERE'S JUST DREGS LEFT. THAT WOULD DESTROY THE PROPERTY VALUE FOR EVERY HOMEOWNER IN THE CITY.

I JUST GOT BACK FROM A WEEK IN MEXICO.

HAVE TO REMEMBER TO USE BOTTLED WATER TO BRUSH YOUR TEETH.

IT'S SO GOOD TO BE HOME. USE THE WATER FROM THE SINK.

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AND I LOVE YOUR IDEA OF ADDING THE DISTANCE AT LEAST RIGHT NOW HAVING 1500 SQUARE FEET DISTANCE.

BECAUSE THESE ARE DEFINITELY HEAVY INDUSTRY.

BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION THAT YA'LL HAD THIS EVENING. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT LAST CALL AND I MEAN IT THIS TIME. ANYBODY, ALL RIGHT THANK YOU EVERYONE FORKER SHARING YOUR THOUGHTS SO WITH THAT I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. FOR PURPOSES OF DISCUSSION AND MOVING FORWARD, I WILL ENTERTAIN ANY MOTIONS WITH

RESPECT TO ITEM C1. >> MOVE TO ADOPT C1.

>> SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT MOTION TO SECOND.

SO LET'S OPEN THE FLOORER TO DIAS FOR DISCUSSION.

YOU MIGHT HAVE ANY COMMENTS. ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

ZBLILD JUST LIKE TO SEE THE VERBIAGE OF THE WATER USAGE

STRONGER AND MORE POWERFUL. >> OKAY.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE DEFINITELY NEED TO CHECK ON.

>> SEEMS LIKE THERE'S SOME IF, ANDS OR BUTS IN THERE.

>> I'D LIKE TO SEE MAXIMUM BE PLACED IN THERE.

THE 1500 FEET IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.

>> OKAY. AND JUST AS A REMINDER, MAKE SURE I'M RIGHT ON THIS, IS THIS FIRST READING?

>> YES, SIR. >> OKAY FIRST READING ONLY SO WE'LL HAVE-- THIS WILL COME BACK BEFORE COUNCIL AFTER ANY ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE MAY REQUEST SO EVERYBODY'S AWARE.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? >> I AGREE WITH COUNCILWOMAN BUTLER'S FEET. 1500 SEEMS CERTAINLY MORE

REASONABLE TO OUR CITIZENS. >> IS THAT SOMETHING WE SHOULD

DO AS AN AMENDMENT TONIGHT. >> I WOULD SAY IF THERE'S GOING TO BE OTHERS, WHY DON'T WE PASS THIS ONE JUST A SUGGESTION.

LET'S GET ALL THE AMENDMENTS AND DO THOSE AT THE NEXT ON SECOND READING SO WE HAVE ALL THOSE TOGETHER.

>> I HAVE NO OBJECTION JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY WAS IN AGREEMENT. ON THE AMENDMENTS SHE'S GOING

TO MAKE. >> OKAY.

>> ONE MORE REQUEST. JULIE WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO HAVE THE TEAM LOOK AT THE LOW FREQUENCY HERTZ AND ALSO DECIBELS BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S BEEN SOME VALID POINTS MADE AT THE 55 DECIBEL IF THERE'S AN INCREASE IT MIGHT BE

JUSTIFIED. >> YOU MEAN LOWER?

>> SO THERE'S A LOW FREQUENCY BUT THERE'S ALSO A DECIBEL THAT'S YOUR NORMAL HEARING. SO LOW FREQUENCY IS E MITTED.

SO THESE ARE TWO SEPARATE ITEMS THAT I'D LIKE ADDRESSED.

PLEASE. >> AND MAYOR YOU ALSO DO HAVE THE OPTION. YA'LL CAN TABLE IT TONIGHT IF YOU WANT TO MAKE YOUR SUGGESTIONS WE CAN BRING BACK A REVISED VERSION AT THE NEXT MEETING ALSO.

>> OKAY. LET ME JUST MAKE A COUPLE COMMENTS BECAUSE I'VE BEEN THINKING THROUGH THIS AND OBVIOUSLY I'M AGREEING WITH IT. LET'S LOOK AT A FURTHER DISTANCE HERE AND MAKE SURE WE'RE VERY TIGHT ON OUR WATER AND THAT DEFINITION IN THERE. I DON'T WANT THE DISCUSSION TO BE ONE THAT GETS AWAY FROM THE REALITY OF WHAT WE'RE USED WITH HERE. AND BY THAT I MEAN WE USE A TERM DATA CENTER AND IT'S LIKE SAYING MANUFACTURERERING FACILITY. THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT KINDS. I COULD BE MANUFACTURING CARS OR FRL ARRANGEMENTS. TWO DIFFERENT COMPLETELY TOTAL IMPACTS AND NOT ALL OF THESE FACILITIES ARE CREATED EQUAL.

WE HEAR CERTAINLY POPULAR IN THE NEWS ABOUT BIG GIANT GOOGLE DATA CENTERS. THAT'S NOT THE KIND THAT'S GOING TO BE LOOKING TO LOCATE INSIDE CITY LIMITS.

LET'S BE REALISTIC. THEY NEED A HUGE FOOTPRINT AND WATER WE WON'T PROVIDE THEM. ALL OF THESE KIND OF THINGS.

THOSE HUGE MONSTER ONES THEY ARE LOOKING AT RURAL PROPERTY.

SO REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS WHAT ARE THE TYPE OF DATA CENTERS THAT ARE LIKELY POTENTIAL IF YOU WILL TO ACTUALLY BE WITHIN THE CITY. I KIND OF LOOK AT THESE AND THINK OKAY WE REGULATE RIGHT NOW.

OI INDUSTRIAL USE. LIGHT AND HEAVY.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT HEAVY

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NOT WHAT IT'S CALLED BECAUSE WE'RE CALLING IT X INSTEAD OF Y. WE LOOK AT THE IMPACT OF WHOO WHA A POTENTIAL FACILITY WOULD HAVE ON THE COMMUNITY.

I THINK THESE-- THE GOAL OF THESE RULES AND REGULATIONS WILL 100% LOOK AT FRIT AN IMPACT STANDPOINT.

I THINK MS. FULGHAM POINTED OUT THE DECIBELS YOU'RE GREATLY LIMITING WHAT TYPES OF THESE FACILITIES COULD TEELY BE WITHIN A CITY LIMITS. YOU'RE REALLY CONSTRICTING WHAT CAN BE THERE BY THAT ONE SIMPLE RULE.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT CENTRES THAT ARE GOING TO USE HUGE AMOUNTS OF WATER AND E LEK TRISTY.

WE HAVE SMALL DATA CENTRES TO THE CITY LIMITS RIGHT NOW.

ELECTRICAL RAIDS AND POWER AND ZERO IMPACT ON WATER.

AND I GET AS YOU ADD THINGS IT'S A CUMULATIVE EFFECT.

BUT I THINK IT'S A LIT SHORT SIGHTED TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO PAINT ALL WITH A BROAD BRUSH. THEY ARE JUST NOT.

GOODS MOVE OVER HIGHWAYS. OVER RAILWAYS.

INFORMATION MOVES OVER VISUAL TECHNOLOGY.

THESE THE INFORMATION WE'RE IN IS THAT WE'RE ALL MOVING TOWARD DIGITAL ECONOMY. YOR WANT TO THROW THE BABY OUT WITH THE BATH WATER. I WANT TO HAVE GOOD SENSIBLE REASONABLE REGULATIONS THAT SAY WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO THE GENERAL RULE BUT CAN'T MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS.

WHAT'S THE IMPACT WE'RE WILLING TO LIVE WITH.

I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A BALANCED APPROACH.

I DON'T THINK WE CAN TAKE A KNEE JERK REACTION ON EITHER SIDE OF THE EQUATION. I THINK WE REALLY HAVE TO HAVE A BALANCED APPROACH. THIS IS A GOOD FIRST STEP TOWARDS STRIKING THAT BALANCE. THAT PROTECTS OUR COMMUNITY AND PROTECTS OUR CITIZENS. CERTAINLY WE'VE HEARD CONCERNS HERE TONIGHT. BUT ALSO THE REALITY THAT THESE MAY NOT CREATE A LOT OF ADJUSTMENTS BUT THEY CREATE A LOT OF TAX BASE. THESE ARE USEFUL FOR THE COMMUNITY AND ALL SORTS OF THINGS AND MEDICAL BILLING AND TELECOMMUNICATIONS FORKER-- THEY CAN SUPPORT AND HELP BUSINESS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. BUT WE HAVE TO BE MEASURED AND WE HAVE TO HAVE A REASONABLE APPROACH TO THIS AND I THINK THIS IS A GOOD FIRST STEP IN THAT DIRECTION.

AND I THINK YOU HAVE TOM HOME WORK TO DOS ON THIS SO MAYBE WE CAN COME BACK. YES MR. LOFFGREN.

>> TO YOUR POINT, THERE'S DIFFERENT SIZE DATA CENTERS.

AND I THINK WE DEFINITELY NEED A DEFINITION.

LIKE YOU SAID THERE'S ALREADY DATA CENTERS IN OUR CITY.

THERE'S ONE AT 700 MAIN STREET THAT COULD BE DEFINED AS A DATA CENTER SO I THINK WE NEED A DEFINITION.

>> I THINK THESE ARE SOMETHING AS WE CLEAN UP THESE DEFINITIONS AND FINE FUN THEM THAT WE'LL GET A REALLY BETTER SENSE OF WHAT WE FIND IS GOING TO BE AN ACCEPTABLE IMPACT.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT.

NOT WHAT IT'S CALLED. IN THE NEWS MEDIA OR SOCIAL MEDIA IS BUT WHAT IS THE ACTUAL IMPACT OF THIS TYPE OF FACILITY ON OUR COMMUNITY. AND SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD MINDSET AND I'M GOING TO SUGGEST THAT IS AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND ADDRESS THESE. SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE DIAS. HOME WORK FROM MS. FULGHAM SO IF THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION I WILL CALL FOR A VOTE ON THE MOTION. NAUL FAVOUR OF APPROVAL AND FIRST READING SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

SO THIS IS FIRST READING AND WE WILL COME BACK AND REVISIT THIS IN THE FUTURE, I'M SURE. ALL RIGHT THANK YOU.

[D. Consent Agenda:]

VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT.

WE WILL JUMP INTO OUR RATHER LENGTHY CONSENT AGENDA.

MS. HILBRICH WE'RE MAKING YOU WORK FOR IT.

>> YES, SIR I TAKE A VACATION I PAY.

>> IF YOU COULD HELP ME. >> YES, SIR ITEM D1 ADOPTION OF MINUTES REGULAR MEETING RELT JULY 7TH 2026.

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D4 CONSIDER AUTHORIZATION OF EXPANSION OF QUAIL CREEK MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT FOR PROPOSED FINAL PLAT OF QUAIL CREEK EAST SUBDIVISION. 5 APPROVE VARIANCE REQUEST TO SECTION 21-206K STREET DESIGN PRINCIPLES FRONTAGE EACH LOT OF THE AREA TO BE SUBDIVIDED SHALL HAVE FRONTAGE ON A PUBLIC STREET FOR 55 ACRERS OF LAND TO CREATE GIN CREEK E STATE SUBDIVISION LOCATED OFF GIN ROAD AND SITUATED IN THE ALEX RUSSELL SURVEY IN VICTORIA COUNTY, TEXAS.

ITEM D6 IS A RESOLUTION APPROVING VARIANCE REDWOEFT SECTION 21-141B2 COMMERCIAL SEPARATION STANDARDERS FOR LIGHT AUTO REPAIR. A FACILITY SHALL NOT BE LOCATED WITHIN 150 FEET OF ANY DETACHABLE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 704 EAST CRESTWOOD DRIVE.

ITEM D7 IS A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE CONTRACT EXTENSION FROM THE ANNUAL SUPPLY CONTRACT WITH THE BRENNTAG SOUTHWEST INCORPORATED FOR LIQUID CHLORINE.

ITEM 8 APPROVE RENEWAL OF ANNUAL SUPPLY CONTRACT WITH THORNTON MUSS SXOCHLT BELLEMIN FOR TMB 1160 IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $479,808. 9 APPROVE RENEWAL ANNUAL SUPPLY CONTRACT WITH THORNTON MUSSO AND BELLEMIN TO NOT EXCEED $190,460. D10 APPROVE RENEWAL OF ANNUAL SUPPLY CONTRACT WITH THORNTON MUSSO BELLEMIN TO NOT EXCEED $171, $171,623.79D11 RESOLUTION APPROVING RENEWAL OF ANNUAL SUPPLY CONTRACT WITH THORNTON MUSSO BELLEMIN FOR TMB78 IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $138,306 AND 12 AWARD 2026 STRIPING PROJECT STRIPE LINES INCORPORATED HOUSTON TEXAS IN THE AMOUNT OF $128.934.

D13 RESOLUTION APPROVING CHANGE ORDER NUMBER TWO TO THE 2026 THOROUGHFARE MAINTENANCE PROJECT CONTRACT WITH CLARK CONSTRUCTION OF TEXAS INCORPORATED RESULTING IN AN ADDITIONAL COST OF $352,939.82 FOR A TOTAL CONTRACT OF

$4,254,666.27. >> THANK YOU.

WELL DONE. TAKE A BREAK.

DO I HAVE A MOTION WITH RESPECT TO THE CONSENT AGENDA?

>> MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA AS READ.

>> ALL RIGHT I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND ALL IN FAVOUR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED?

[1. Support the renaming of the VA Clinic in honor of Master Sergeant Roy ...]

LET'S JUMP TO ACTION ITEMS BEGIN E1.

>> RESOLUTION SUPPORTING RENAMING OF THE VA CLIN INCOME HONOUR OF MASTER SERGEANT ROY P. BENAVIDEZ.

>> ALL RIGHT I THINK THIS IS MY ITEM AND I DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION. PUT TOGETHER.

MANY OF YOU MAY KNOW THAT THE COUNTY HAD ACTUALLY PASSED A RESOLUTION HERE AWHILE BACK SUPPORTING RENAMING OF OUR LOCAL VA CLINIC. WHICH WAS NEWLY OPENED HERE ABOUT A YEAR OR YEAR AND A HALF AGO.

AFTER ROY BENEVEDEZ. OF COURSE MASTER SERGEANT BENEVEDEZ IS A LOCAL HERO KNOWN MANY OF US FOR HIS HEROISM.

THE INJURIES HE SUSTAINED I WOULD THINK IN MY MIND THIS TYPE OF HONOUR WOULD HAVE TO BE VERY APPROPRIATE TO HONER THE SERVICE HE'S GIVEN TO OUR COUNTRY.

SO I HAD ASKED CITY STAFF TO PUT TOGETHER A RESOLUTION.

NOW UNDERSTAND WE'RE NOT RENAMING THE VA CENTER.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF POWER BUT WE ARE RECOMMENDING AND JOINING WITH THE COUNTY AT THEIR REQUEST IN RECOMMENDING THAT-- OR SUPPORTING THE IDEA OF RENAMING THE VA CLINIC IN HONOUR OF MASTER SERGEANT ROY B. BEN VE DEZ.

SO WITH THAT, IF THERE'S ANY MOTIONS ON THIS ITEM, I WILL

ACCEPT THOSE. >> MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM E1.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE NAUL FAVOUR SAY

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ANY OPPOSED? AND IT IS DONE.

VERY GOOD. ITEM E1 IS APPROVED.

ABSOLUTELY. YES SO WE WILL GET THAT RESOLUTION PUT TOGETHER AND GET IT TO THE APPROPRIATE ENTITIES

[2. Appeal the Building and Standards Commission order for property locate...]

ALL RIGHT LET'S MOVE INTO ITEM E2.

>> E2 IS A RESOLUTION CONSIDERING AN APPEAL OF THE BUILDING AND STANDARDERS COMMISSION ORDER FOR PROPERTY LOCATED ON SOUTHWEST MOODY STREET BEING A 1.3 ACRE PORTION OF A 1.573 ACRE TRACT IDENTIFIED AS LOT 2 TRACT 5 BLOCK 7 RANGE 3 OF THE WEST FARM IN VICTORIA TEXAS AND IDENTIFIED BY PROPERTY ID48335 TO EXTEND THE ORDER FROM 30

DAYS TO SIX MONTHS. >> YES.

SO THE BUILDING AND STANDARDERS COMMISSION ISSUED DEMOLITION ORDER FOR THESE TWO PROPERTIES AT THIS PROPERTY LOCATED SOUTHWEST WHICH DOES NOT HAVE AN ADDRESS.

BUT DOW HEAR THE PROPERTY ID. SO THE WEST BUILDING IS-- WELL THEY ARE BOTH WOOD FRAME BUILDINGS.

WITH SHEET METAL COVERING THEIR EXTERIOR.

THE WEST BUILDING IS SUBSTANTIALLY RUSTED THROUGH AND THERE'S A LOT OF WOOD ROT AND WOOD DETERIORATION THROUGHOUT. AND SO WE DON'T BELIEVE IT'S SALVAGEABLE AT ALL. THE EAST BUILDING HAS SOME RUST AND WATER LEAKS AND WATER DAMAGE BUT THE FOUNDATION IS ESSENTIALLY COMPLETELY GONE. IF YOU EXPECT ALL OF THE PEERS OVER 50% OF THEM ARE GONE. YOU CAN DEFINITELY TELL PREVIOUS FLOOD WATERS HAVE PUSHED THE BUILDING OFF OF ITS FOUNDATION. SO IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE BOTH OF THESE BUILDINGS ARE IN NOT JUST THE REGULATORY FLOOD PLANE. THEY ARE IN THE ACTUAL FLOOD WAY WITH NEW MAPS. THIS IS A SITE OF WHERE THE PROPERTY IS. SO FOR THOSE REASONS THE BUILDING CENTRES COMMISSION DID ISSUE ORDERS FOR DEMOLITION.

THE PROPERTY OWNER IS-- DOES AGREE THAT FOR DEMOLITION OF THE WEST BUILDING. BUT WOULD LIKE TO SALVAGE ALL OF THE MATERIAL THAT HE CAN FROM THE WEST BUILDING.

AND HIS PLANS FOR THE EAST BUILDING IS TO ACTUALLY MOVE IT OFFSITE TO A LOCATION OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS OUTSIDE OF THE FLOOD PLANE AND THE FLOODWAY.

COULD PUT IT ON A GOOD FOUNDATION THAT WORKS.

FOR THOSE REASONS HE DID REQUEST TO APPEAL THE DECISION OF THE 30-DAY ORDER TO A 6-MONTH TIMELINE TO ALLOW HIM TO GET THE NEW SITE FOR THE EAST BUILDING SITUATED.

AND THEN ALSO TAKE TIME PO DMOL IT SHALL WEST BUILDING.

I DID INCLUDE THE ENTIRE REPORT AND PACKET IN THE AGENDA ITEM.

BUT FOR JUST-- BECAUSE IT IS A REQUEST TO APPEAL THE TIME FRAME. I JUST INCLUDED A FEW HERE TONIGHT. BUT THAT IS ESSENTIALLY THE REQUEST OF THE APPEAL AND THE PROPERTY OWNER IS HERE.

. >> OKAY THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS? SO BASICALLY WE'RE JUST EXTENDING TIME PERIOD. GOT IT.

OKAY. BECAUSE WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED.

YEAH, OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. DO I HAVE A MOTION WITH RESPECT

TO THIS ITEM? >> I MOVE WE ADOPT THIS ITEM.

>> I SECOND IT. >> ALL RIGHT.

I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON ITEM

E2? >> I'D JUST LIKE TO COMMENT THAT WE GET THESE REQUESTS PERIODICALLY.

BUT HERE'S THE SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE A PROPERTY OWNER THAT HAS A PLAN. AND THAT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE. AND SO I'M CERTAINLY EXPECTING THIS WON'T BE A PROBLEM AND THAT HE'LL BE ABLE TO FOLLOW

THROUGH. >> YES.

AND I AM GLAD I'M NOT IN CHARGE OF THE MOVING PROCESS.

ALL IN FAVOUR SAY AYE? ANY OPPOSED?

[3. Approve the purchase of a Pierce Saber Pumper from Siddons-Martin Eme...]

[4. Approve a ten (10) year lease purchase with PNC Bank for $1,722,942 fo...]

WE WILL JUMP NOW WE HAVE ITEM E3 AND E4 I THINK ARE WE DOING A JOINT PRESENTATION? OKAY GOOD.

WILL YOU CALL UP ITEM E3 AND 4? >> YES, SIR.

APPROVING THE RESOLUTION OF THE PURCHASE OF THE PURE SABER PUMPER FROM MARTIN E EMERGENCY GROUP LLC IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $1,113,766 AND ITEM E4 IS A RESOLUTION APPROVING TEN YEAR LEASE PURCHASE FOR THE PNC BANK FOR $1,722,942 FOR A PIERCE ENFORCER 107 FOR SIDDONS-MARTIN E EMERGENCY GROUP LLC WITH TEN ANNUAL PAYMENTS OF $228,978.18 FOR A

[01:30:06]

>> GOOD EVENING CHIEF. WELCOME.

>> GOOD EVENING. MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I APPRECIATE YOU HAVING ME HERE TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF OUR CURRENT SITUATION AND MOVING FORWARD.

SO FIRST OF ALL I'D LIKE TO EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE TO CITY MANAGEMENT AND COUNCIL FOR THE CONTINUED INVESTMENT IN OUR EQUIPMENT. REVIEWING AND MAINTAINING OUR STANDARDS FOR APPARATUS REPLACEMENT IS ESSENTIAL.

AND DOING SO REINFORCES AND JUSTIFIES THE DECISION MOVE MADE TO INVEST IN OUR FLEET. WHAT I WANT TO DO IS PROVIDE AN OVERVUF OUR CURRENT SITUATION. OUTLINE HOW OUR OPERATIONS LOOK ONCE ALL OF THE UNITS ARE IN SERVICE.

SO-- I WANT TO MAKE SURE I GIVE YOU A CLEAR PICTURE OF THE IMPROVEMENTS AND THE BENEFITS TO OUR OPERATIONAL READINESS.

WHAT I LIKE TO DO IS GET YOUR ATTENTION TO THE PICTURE.

THAT IS ENGINE TWO THAT WILL BE HERE IN AUGUST.

BUT IF YOU NOTICED IT'S NOT YOUR TYPICAL RED AND WHITE.

WE ADDED A FLAIR OF GRAY TO IT BECAUSE OF THE APPARATUS ARE INCUMBENT WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A NICE THING TO CHANGE IT UP JUST A LITTLE BIT. AND IT REALLY LOOKS NICE.

THE PICTURE DOESN'T DO IT ANY JUSTICE AND THE SAME FOR THE AMBULANCE AS WELL. LOOKING AT IT ROLLING DOWN THE ROAD IS A REALLY BEAUTIFUL SIGHT TO SEE.

SO-- IN FLEET MANAGEMENT, WE HAVE WHAT'S CALLED THE NFPA GUIDELINES AND THIS IS WHAT HELPS US DETERMINE WHAT NEEDS TO BE IN SERVICE AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN OUT OF SERVICE.

AS YOU CAN SEE IT'S OVER BOTH, FIRE ENGINES.

WHAT WE CALL THE FIRE TRUCKSER TO LADDERS AND THEN ALSO AS WELL AS THE AMBULANCES AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT THAT REQUIRES AS FAR AS A FRONT LINE. YOU SEE ON THE ENGINE 15 YEARS OF SERVICE. YOU SEE AS WELL AS THE LADDER 20 YEARS OF SERVICE AND THEN THE AMBULANCE IS FIVE TO EIGHT YEARS. NOW I WANT TO STRESS AND POINT THIS OUT, THESE ARE GUIDELINES. BECAUSE EVERY CITY HAS ITS OWN UNIQUE CHALLENGES. AND VICTORIA IS DEFINITELY UNIQUE AND ZPIFRNT HAS ITS CHALLENGES.

AND SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WE'RE COVERING OUR RESPONSIBILITIES ARE COVERING 40 SQUARE MILES OF THE CITY. BUT THEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE COUNTY WHICH IS 900 SQUARE MILES SO THAT'S A LOT OF ROAD TO TRAVEL. AND FACTORS AS SUCH, THAT'S WHAT MAKES-- COMES INTO PLAY WITH DETERMINING USING THE STANDARDS AND THE DEMOGRAPHICS AND THE TERRAIN.

OPERATIONAL NEEDS AND DETERMINING WHAT NEEDS TO BE RI PLACED OR MOVED OVER FROM FRONT LINE TO A RESERVE.

SO ON THIS SLIDE HERE IT'S THE CURRENT FLEET FOR OUR FIRE.

WE ALL KNOW OUR FLEET IS AGING. THE AVERAGE LIFE OF THE FLEET RIGHT NOW IS 13 YEARS. WE HAVE ONE APPARATUS THAT IS 17 YEARS OLD. SO YOU KNOW OUR CHALLENGE IS TO PROVIDE EFFECTIVE FIRE SUPPRESSION FOR THE CITY.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR FLEET, YES WE HAVE SIX FIRE STATION PS BUT WE HAVE FOUR ENGINES. AND SO THAT IS YOUR PRIMARY FIRE SUPPRESSION. WE DO HAVE A LADDER.

WE HAVE A-- HALF LADDER HALF ENGINE.

AND THEY ARE LIMITED IN FIRE SUPPRESSION.

THEY ONLY CARRY 250 GALLANCE OF WATER ON THE LADDERER.

500 GALLONS ON THE QUENT. AND SO YOU'RE ASKING FOR THE FOUR ENGINES TO DO A LOT OF COVERAGE WHEN IT COMES TO ACTUAL FIRE SUPPRESSION. THE ENGINES THAT WE HAVE NOW, WE HAVE ONE THAT HAS 500 GALLONS AND ONE THAT HAS 750 GALLONS. BUT THE NEW ENGINES THAT ARE COMING THEY ARE ALL E QUIPPED WITH A THOUSAND GALLANCE TANKS.

WHICH IS GOING TO DEFINITELY INCREASE OUR OPERATIONAL FLEXIBILITY. IT WILL ALLOW US TO DISTRIBUTE FIRE SUPPRESSION WORKLOAD ACROSS SIX ENGINES AND NOT JUST FOUR. THIS IS A SITUATION WITH OUR EMS FLEET. AGAIN SAME SITUATION.

OUR FLEET IS AGING. IT'S-- THEY ARE DIFFICULT TO MAINTAIN. IT DIRECTLY IMPACTS OUR

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HOWEVER AS YOU RECALL IN OUR BUDGET, I HAD MENTIONED THAT THE FIVE AMBULANCES ARE HERE. WE ACTUALLY HAVE ONE IN SERVICE RIGHT NOW. THE OTHER ONES ARE BEING PREPPED TO GO IN SERVICE AT A LATER TIME.

AND AGAIN IF YOU LOOK-- THIS IS THE NEW LOOK OF THE AMBULANCE AGAIN. WE ADDED THAT FLAIR OF GRAY.

WE BELIEVE IT'S A GOOD LOOK. IT MATCHES THE COLOUR SCHEME OF ENGINES AND CREATE ADIEU NITED AND PROFESSIONAL LOOK ACROSS OUR FLEET. SO AFTERWARDS WITH THE ENGINES IN PLACE, AS YOU CAN SEE, ONCE IT'S ALL COMPLETED, THE-- NEW ENGINES WILL SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE THE OVERALL AGE OF OUR FLEET BY 85%. THIS IMPROVEMENT STRENGTHENS RELIABILITY. IT REDUCES MAINTENANCE COSTS.

IT ENSURES OUR MEMBERS HAVE DEPENDABLE EQUIPMENT THEY NEED TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY. THE SAME WILL GO FOR THE EMS FLEET. WE WILL BE BETTER E QUIPPED TO MEET THE INCREASE IN DEMAND FOR EMS. THE MEDIC UNITS WILL REDUCE MAINTENANCE DOWN TIME AND IMPROVE RESPONSE CAPABILITES. IN ADDITION TO ALL THIS, WHAT THAT'S GOING TO DO IS THE DOMINO EFFECT IS WE'LL HAVE A RESERVE FLEET. SO WITH THAT AGAIN IT PROVIDES OPERATIONAL DEPTH. SO THESE RESERVES ENSURE WE CAN SUSTAIN A HIGH LEVEL OF OPERATIONAL READINESS.

EVEN WHEN FRONT LINE UNITS ARE OUT OF SERVICE FOR ROUTINE MAINTENANCE OR UNEXPECTED REPAIRS.

AND THEN FINALLY WITH ALL OF THIS, I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND THAT WE ALSO HAVE THE BUILDER OF OUR APPARATUS CITIZENS MARTIN. THEY ARE HERE IN VICTORIA WORKING. THEY HAVE A-- HERE THAT IS AT OUR SERVICE FACILITY. SO IN ADDITION WITH THAT, THAT WILL CONTRIBUTE TO SHORTER TURN AROUND TIMES.

WHENEVER OUR FLEET MAINTENANCE REQUIRES-- ARE REQUIRED.

HELPING US KEEP UNITS IN SERVICE.

AND AVAILABLE TO THE CITIZENS OF VICTORIA.

SO OVERALL AGAIN I THANK YOU ALL FOR THE INVESTMENT.

IT'S THE INVESTMENT IN OUR FLEET.

IT'S INFERMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY.

IT'S AN INVESTMENT ALSO FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR MEMBERS ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. IT CREATES AGAIN WHAT I SAID SAFE FOR OUR MEMBERS. A RELIABLE RESPONSE AND BETTER EMS CARE. WE'RE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE AND IT JUST PROVIDES FOR A STRONGER COMMUNITY.

>> THANK YOU CHIEF. >> THANK YOU.

>> I JUST WANT TO BRIEFLY ADD THAT WE'RE BRINGING THESE ITEMS BEFORE YOU IN AN ATTEMPT TO SAVE SOME MONEY.

AND TLOS GET ONLINE. AS YOU KNOW A LOT OF THE EQUIPMENT IS TAKING A LONG TIME.

SO WE GOT SOMEWHAT INTO THE HABIT THE LAST CUPEL OF YEARS TO PREORDER. AND GET IN LINE AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN AND THEN WE ACCOUNT FOR THE ACTUAL MONETARY PIECE OF IT IN THE SUBSEQUENT FISCAL YEAR. SO EXPECT FOR THAT TO BE THE CASE IN THE UPCOMING PROPOSED BUDGET THAT WE'RE ACCOUNTING FOR THESE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.

MAYBE WE'LL GET LUCKY AND GET THEM EARLY LIKE THE GARBAGE

TRUCKS. >> YEAH HOPEFULLY.

>> FINGERS CROSSED. ALL RIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT CHIEF, THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION. VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO WITH THAT THEN WHY DON'T WE BEGIN WITH ITEM E3. DO I HAVE A MOTION WITH RESPECT

TO ITEM E3? >> MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM E3.

>> SECOND. >> OKAY MOTION AND A SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.

NAUL FAVOUR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED.

E3 PASSES. OKAY ON E4 JUST A REMINDER I BELIEVE MS. LACEY INFORMED US THAT WE DO NEED TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT ON THAT ONCE WE HAVE AN ORIGINAL MOTION FOR THISSITE

TOM CORRECT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT. >> YES, SIR THAT'S CORRECT.

THE FIRST DOLLAR AMOUNT THE PURCHASE PRICE FOR THE TRUCK HAS NOT CHANGED. SINCE PUBLISHING THE AGENDA THERE WAS A SLIGHT INCREASE IN THE INTEREST RATE.

WHICH CHANGED THE DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR THE ANNUAL PAYMENTS AS WELL AS THE TOTAL PURCHASE PRICE. SO THOSE NUMBERS WILL VARY SLIELTHLY DIFFERENTLY. I PROVIDED THOSE EXACT NUMBERS TO COUNCILMAN LOFFGREN SO HE HAS THAT TO MAKE THE AMENDMENT.

>> SO WE'LL NEED A MOTION AND SECOND ON THE AGENDA ITEM AS

IT'S PRESENTED ON THE AGENDA. >> I MOVE WE ADOPT.

>> SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT.

I'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND THEN.

I'M SENSING THAT MR. LOFFGREN HAS AN AMENDMENT HERE.

>> YOU HAVE GOOD SENSE. DUE TO THE RECENT INTEREST RATE INCREASE I MOVE WE AMEND THE RESOLUTION TO APPROVE A TEN-YEAR LEASE PURCHASE WITH PNC BANK FOR $1,722,942 FOR A

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>> ALL RIGHT SO I HAVE A MOTION FOR THE AMENDMENT.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT? ALL IN FAVOUR OF THE AMENDMENT SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. SO THEN WE GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION AS AMENDED. ALL RIGHT.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION? ALL RIGHT HAVE IT. AISLE CALL FOR A VOTE ON THE ORIGINAL MOTION AS AMENDED. ALL IN FAVOUR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED. ALL RIGHT PASSS.

THANK YOU ALL FOR KEEPING ME STRAIGHT.

RULES OF ORDER ARE MORE LIKE GUIDELINES AS THE CHIEF SAID.

[5. Approve a four (4) year Agreement with Motorola Solutions Inc. for two...]

ITEM THEN IS E5. >> RESOLUTION APPROVING FOUR YEAR AGREEMENT WITH MOTOROLA SOLUTIONS INCORPORATED FOR TWO BRINC RESPONDER STATION-BASED DFR DRONE AS FIRST RESPONDER SYSTEMS WITH SAFEGUARD LIT SXECHLT HARDWARE REFRESH AND ONE LEMUR2 DRONE WITH SAFEGUARD LITE IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO

EXCEED $449,991. >> GOOD EVENING CHIEF.

>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I'M SURE THAT YOU'VE ALL HEARD ME TALKING ABOUT THIS DRONE FIRST RESPORND PROGRAM OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS.

AND WITH SOME BEHIND THE SCENES WORK BY LIEUTENANT PO.

THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. FINANCE CITY MANAGERS OFFICE WE'RE TO THE POINT NOW TO HAVE A CONTRACT WHERE WE LIKE TO SEEK YOUR APPROVAL ON. JUST QUICKLY FOR YOUR GENERAL KNOWLEDGE I'LL GO OVER SOME OF THE BESTS AND USES OF THE PROGRAM AND SOME TECHNICAL INFORMATION.

SO OVERALL IT CAN PROVIDE FASTER RESPONSE TIMES, ENHANCE SITUATIONAL AWARENESS AND SAFETY FOR ALL PUBLIC SAFETY MEMBERS. MONITORERING.

DECREASED NEED FOR EMERGENCY OR FAST RESPONSE WHICH PUTS OFFICERS AND THE COMMUNITY IN DANGER.

WE COULD POSSIBLY CLEAR UP TO 25% OF CALLS FOR SERVICE WITHOUT NEEDING AN OFFICER TO ACTUALLY RESPOND BY GETTING THERE AND JUST WITH THE DRONE SEEING THAT THERE IS WHATEVER IT IS REPORTED IS NOT ACTUALLY THERE.

AND THE DRONES ARE MADE IN THE UNITED STATES.

THAT WILL ALLOW US TO STAY AHEAD OF POTENTIAL LAWS THAT COULD BE PASSED THAT PROHIBIT DRONES MADE IN CHINA FROM BEING USED. BY GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS.

AND THE DRONES WON'T BE USED FOR MASS SURVEILLANCE.

THEY WON'T BE RECORDING WHILE THEY ARE IN FLIGHT.

THEY ONLY WOULD RECORD ONCE THEY GET OVER THE SCENE.

AND THERE WILL BE A TRANSPARENCY PORTLE THAT I'LL GO OVER HERE IN A LITTLE BIT. SOME MORE BENEFITS FOR POLICE.

IT ALLOWS FOR DEESCALATION WITH REALTIME VIDEO AND COMMUNICATION. ENHANCED OFFICER SAFETY BY BEING THE EYE IN THE SKY TO SEE WHERE SUSPECTS ARE.

WHERE THEY MAY FLEE. TO HELP WITH OVERWATCH AND CRIME SCENE DOCUMENTATION. FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IT CAN HELP THEM WITH A RAPID SIZE UP OF THE FIRE.

MORE EASILY ADJUST THEIR RESOURCED A NEEDED.

FOR WILD FIRE TRACKING THEY CAN SEE DIRECTION OF THE FIRE.

IDENTIFY SAFE E SCAPE ZONES. THEN FOR SEARCH AND & RESCUE KIT GET TO A LOCATION QUICKLY AND IT HAS INFRARED AND THERMAL SO THAT IT CAN SEE LOW VISIBILITY IF SOMEONE IS IN THE RIVER IN THE WOODS WHATEVER. AND THEN FOR EMS IT CAN DETERMINE SAFE APPROACH ZONES IN A HAS MATT SITUATION OR A CR CRASH.

AND THEN CAPABILITY OF DELIVERING CRITICAL EMERGENCY SUPPLIES. THIS IS WHAT THE OVERWATCHED DRONE LOOKS LIKE. IT HAS A 42 MINUTE FLIGHT TIME AND TWO-WAY COMMUNICATIONS. THE LEMUR TWO IS AN INDOOR TACTICAL DRONE SO THAT YOU CAN FLY IT IN AHEAD OF OFFICERS OR A SWAT TEAM OR WHATEVER AND IT'S DESIGNED FOR FLYING INDOORS AND TIGHTER SPACES. IT HAS NIGHT VISION AND THERMAL SENSEERS. TWO-WAY COMMUNICATIONS.

IT CAN BE ATTACHED WITH A GLASS BREAKER.

AND ANOTHER COOL ASPECT OF THAT IS IT FLIES THROUGH THE STRUCTURE KIT CREATE A FLOOR PLAN THAT WE CAN DOWNLOAD AND

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IT PROTECTS IT. IT ADDS INTEGRATED HVAC TO KEEP IT FROM BEING DEGRADED BY HEAT OR COLD.

IT HAS GREAT COMMUNICATIONS. SO YOU HAVE MRE RECORDED MESSAGES FOR EXAMPLE LIKE CROWD CONTROL OVER THE TOP SAVE EXIT EAST AS YOUR LOCATION. ORB IT CAN BE SURRENDER WE HAVE YOU SURROUNDED OR WHATEVER. YOU CAN ALSO DO TEXT TO TALK AND TWO-WAY COMMUNICATION YOU CAN TALK TO THEM THROUGH THE DRONE AND HEAR WHAT THEY ARE SAYING.

THESE ARE SOME OF THE E EMERGENCY DELIVERIES THAT CAN BE MADE. YOU CAN DROP AN IUD.

PERSONAL FLOTATION DEVICE. EPI PENS AND NARCAN.

>> HOPEFULLY NOT AN IED. >> AED.

>> JUST AN OLD HABIT CHIEF. JUST WANT TO CLARIFY.

>> ACRONYMS ARE TOUGH. SO WE HAVE THE DATA STORAGE AND TRANSMISSION IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF FEDERAL SECURITY REQUIREMENTS. THERE IS A TRANSPARENCY DASHBOARD IF CITIZENS WANT TO GO ON ONCE WE GET THIS SET UP.

THEY CAN LOOK AT DFR FLIGHT PATHS AND TIMES.

FOR THE COST THE FIRST YEAR IS FREE.

WE CAN ACTUALLY BACK OUT OF IT UP TO I THINK THE 11TH MONTH IF WE DECIDE WE WANT TOO TO BACK OUT OF THE CONTRACT.

YEAR TWOS THROUGH FOUR ARE $149,997 FOR EACH YEAR.

INCLUDED WITH THAT IS TWO OF THE STATION LAUNCH DRONES AND THOSE TWO DRONES SHOULD COVER ABOUT 85% OF THE CITY.

THE LEMURER TO INDOOR DRONE THAT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE AND THE SOFTWARE AND HARDWARE NEEDED TO RUN THEIR SYSTEMS. ALL INCLUDED FOR THAT. WE ESTIMATE THE LAUNCH PAD INSTALLATION REQUIRE 16 FOOT BY 16 FOOT PADS FOR THE LAUNCH PADS TO SET ON AND WE ESTIMATE THAT COST AROUND $10,000 IN BRINC AND MOTOROLA HAVE OFFERED TO ASSIST WITH THAT COST.

WE HAVE YET TO SEE HOW MUCH THAT ASSISTANCE WOULD BE.

SO THE ESTIMATED TOTAL COST WOULD BE $459,441.

>> CHIEF IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY THE LAUNCH PAD IS THAT ON THE ROOF AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY?

>> SO AFTER FURTHER RESEARCH WE THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER TO BE GROUND BASEED. YES.

IT WOULD PROBABLY BE LENGTHEN THE LIFE OF THE ROOF SO THAT WE'RE NOT TRAVELLING ACROSS IT. FOR MAINTENANCE.

>> THAT MAKES SENSE. OKAY.

SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU TONIGHT.

DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE FROM A TIMING THE WAY WE INTENTION ALE SCHEDULED THIS OUT IS THAT THAT FIRST PAYMENT WON'T HIT UNTIL OCTOBER OF 2027 WHICH IS FISCAL YEAR 28.

SO YOU WON'T ACTUALLY SEE THIS INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET. BUT YOU WILL EVENTUALLY IN 28.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT DISTINCTION.

>> YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

I FORGOT TO TEED THAT. >> ANY QUESTIONS.

>> WE HAVE OTHER DRONES CURRENTLY, CORRECT?

>> YES, SIR. WE'VE HAD DRONES FOR-- I DON'T KNOW-- SEVEN YEARS? AND WE HAVE MULTIPLE PILOTS BUT THEY ARE NOT SELF-LAUNCHING. WE HAVE TO VISUALLY SEE THEM

FLY. >> WILL THIS RENUV NEED FOR THOSE OR WILL WE KEEP THOSE AS WELL?

>> WE'LL STILL HAVE BOTH. YES, SIR.

>> AND YOU KNOW JUST TO POINT. CHIEF YOU AND I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONINGS ABOUT THIS PROGRAM.

WHICH I THINK IS REALLY NEAT AND I KNOW YOU'RE EXCITED ABOUT JUST PUT THIS IN THE N' THIS DEPARTMENT AS WELL.

NOT JUST-- YOU KNOW-- ON POLICE CALLS.

BUT HAVE A DRONE THERE BEFORE. THEY SHOW UP AND TELL THEM-- WHERE DO THEY NEED TO BE OR WHERE-- YOU KNOW WHICH SIDE THEY NEED TO BE ON AND THAT SORT OF THING.

SO I REALLY THINK THIS IS A GREAT IMPROVEMENT TO OUR OVERALL PUBLIC SAFETY IN VICTORIA.

SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT. >> YES, SIR.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT THEN I WILL ENTERTAIN ANY MOTIONS

TWROPT ITEM E5. >> MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM E5.

>> SECOND. >> GOT A MOTION TO SECOND ON E5. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE ALL IN FAVOUR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AND WE'RE IN THE DRONE

[1. Child Safety Program and Proposed FY 2027 Program. Tiffany Totah, Muni...]

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT CITY MAN NGER REPORT

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>> WE HAVE ONE SHORT. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO TIFFANY TO PROVIDE THAT MORE COMPREHENSIVE UPDATE ON THE CHILD SAFETY

PROGRAM. >> HE PUT SOME PRESSURE ON YOU

THERE. >> HE KNOWS I TALK FAST AND I HAVE FAMILY FROM NEW YORK SO I TEND TO TALK PRETTY QUICKLY AND I PROMISE I WON'T KEEP YOU HERE ALL NIGHT.

GOOD EVENING I'M EXCITED TO PRESENT THE PROPOSED PROGRAM FOR FISCAL YEAR 27 CHILD SAFETY PROGRAM.

JUST SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION ABOUT THIS PROGRAM AND HOW WE GET THE FUNDING. THIS WAS ORIGINALLY ADOPTED IN AUGUST OF 2019 THROUGH A RESOLUTION IN PARTNERSHIP ESSENTIALLY WITH THE COUNTY. THEY DO COLLECT A FEE ON VEHICLE REGISTRATION THAT WE THEN GATE PORTION OF VEHICLES REGISTERED BETWEEN CITY OF VICTORIA.

SO IN 2020 THAT WAS A DOLLAR FEE AND THE COUNTY DID PROPOSE TO INCREASE THAT TO THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT ALLOWABLE BY STATE LAW JANUARY OF 21 WHICH INCREASED THAT TO $1.50.

THE PROGRAM THEN OFFICIALLY ADOPTED AND APPROVED BY ZI CITY COUNCIL IN OCTOBER OF 21 AND THIS YEAR NOW NOUR FIFTH YEAR.

SO IT DOES HAVE TWO COMPONENTS. WE HAVE A CHILD SAFETY GRANT COMPONENT AS WELL AS A CHILD PASSENGER SAFETY COMPONENT.

SO WE DO HAVE A COMMITTEE OF CITY DEPARTMENTS THAT HELP OVERSEE THE GRANT MANAGEMENT OF THIS AND THAT INCLUDES FINANCE, KATIE CONLEY, MYSELF AS THE PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR OF IT.

KEVIN FROM OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND SERGEANT GRIFALDO FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HELPTOUS REVIEW APPLICATIONS AND ENSURE THEY ARE COMPLIANT WITH THE REQUIREMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN OUTLINED. SO WITH THE GRANT ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE ELIGIBLE FOR FUNDING ARE NON-PROFIT, NON-TAXING ENTITIES THAT OPERATE EXCLUSIVELY BETWEEN CITY LIMITS OF VICTORIA BUT NOT NECESSARILY EXCLUSIVELY.

THE CURRENT ELIGIBLE USE CATEGORIES THEY CAN APPLY FOR FUNDING IS FOR CHILD SAFETY OR ABUSE INTERVENTION AND PREVENTION PROGRAMS OR DRUG, ALCOHOL OR SUBSTANCE ABUSE PREVENTION PROGRAMS FOR CHILDREN.

THERE ARE OTHER ELIGIBLE USES IN STATE LAW THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY EXPLORE IN FUTURE YEARS SUCH AS NUTRITION AND HEALTH AND WE MAY PROPOSE THAT FOR NEXT YEAR TO TRY TO EXPAND USAGE OF THIS FUNDING. THEY ARE REQUIRED WHEN THEY SUBMIT APPLICATION WHICH IS PART OF WHY I'M HERE.

APPLICATIONS WILL BE OPENING MONDAY 8 A.M. JULY 27TH.

THE FORM WILL BE AVAILABLE THROUGH AN ELECTRONIC FORM POSTED ON THE WEBSITE. ALL FORM DOCUMENTATION WILL BE THERE WHICH WILL INCLUDE OUR ONLINE CHILD SAFETY FEE APPLICATION FORM. A PROGRAM BUDGET FORM THAT IS AN EXCEL SPREAD SHEET THEY CAN INPUT THEIR DATA INTO TO SHOW HOW MUCH FUNDING THEY ARE REQUESTING AND IF THEY ARE GETTING ADDITIONAL REVENUES FOR THAT FUND.

THEY'LL ALSO SUBMIT PROOF OF THE IRS FORM 990 MOST RECENT USUALLY FROM THE PRIOR YEAR AS WELL AS IRS TAX EXEMPTION LETTER. IN THIS PARTICULAR GRANT IT IS A REIMBURSEMENT BASED GRANT. THEY ARE ABLE TO SUBMIT THEM QUARTERLY TO US. WITH THE FIRST ONE OF EACH YEAR DOING JANUARY SO ON AND SO FORTH.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN THE THIRD QUARTER REIMBURSEMENT AND THEY'LL HAVE UNTIL OCTOBER 20TH ESSENTIALLY TO GET THEIR FINAL REIMBURSEMENT REQUEST. AND OUR COMMITY DOES TAKE THOSE APPLICATIONS ONE RECEIVED. WE E VALUATE THEM BASED ON A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT MATTERS BASED ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY ATTENDED OUR WORKSHOP. WHILE IT'S OPTIONAL.

ESPECIALLY FOR NEW APPLICANTS DID THEY COMPLY AND IS THERE INFORMATION CREDIBLE AND THEN WE LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF CHILDREN THEY ARE SERVING AS WELL AS THE SERVICES THEY ARE PROVIDING. SO IN SOME CASES YOU MAY HAVE SOMETHING LIKE A SUMMER CAMP PROGRAM THAT IS ONE CHILD ONE SERVICE AND OTHER FACTORS YOU MAY HAVE COUNSELING SESSIONS WHERE A CHILD IS RECEIVING MULTIPLE SERVICES.

THEN WHETHER OR NOT WE ALSO LOOK AT HAVE THEY BEEN A PREVIOUS GRANT RECIPIENT AND ARE THEY UTILIZING THAT FUNDING. AND SO OUR APPLICATIONS AGAIN THEY'LL OPEN ON MONDAY JULY 27TH AT 8 A.M.

THEY WILL CLOSE AT 5 P.M. ON AUGUST 14TH WHICH IS A FRIDAY.

OUR COMMITTEE WILL THEN TAKE TIME TO REVIEW THOSE APPLICATIONS. NOTIFY THEM OF THEIR FUNDING BY AUGUST 28TH AND THEN WE'LL BRING BACK THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU ALL AS A RESOLUTION SEPTEMBER 15TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND THEN THOSE CONTRACTS WILL BE DRAFTED BY LEGAL TO GO OUT EFFECTIVE FOR OCTOBER 1ST.

SO AS OF TO DATE WE HAVE HAD 4 OF OUR 7 CURRENT RECIPIENTS REPORT AND RECEIVE PART OF THEIR REIMBURSEMENT REQUEST.

SOME HAVE BEEN FULLY REIMBURSED OTHERS PARTIALLY AND THERE'S A MISSING ZERO TOTAL AWARD $55,000 IN AVAILABLE FUNDS FOR THESE GRANTS SO AS OF TODAY TO DATE WE'VE HAD $16,000 REIMBURSED TO THOSE RECIPIENTS. THOSE REPORTED 3418 CHILDREN SERVED AND ORGANIZATIONS TYPICALLY VOLUNTEER BASED.

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I DID WANT TO PUT SOME HISTORICAL DATA HERE TO SHOW YOU WHERE WE'VE BEEN AT OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH FUNDING HAS BEEN PREVIOUSLY ALLOCATED OR RECEIVED BY THESE GRANT RECIPIENTS.

SO IT SLIGHTLY WENT DOWN THIS YEAR.

THIS YEAR WE AL OI KATED $55,000.

LAST YEAR IN FISCAL YEAR 25 WE HAD 70,000 AVAILABLE BUT EVERY APPLICANT WAS FULLY FUNDED 100% AND SO WE DID NOT ALLOCATE ADDITIONAL FUNDING AT THAT TIME SO THAT'S WHY WE WENT BACK DOWN A LITTLE BIT TO SEE WHERE WE WOULD BE AT THIS YEAR.

AND THEN OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS WE'VE HAD FOUR APPLICANTS IN 23. IN 24 WE HAD SERVEN AND THEN LAST YEAR WE HAD SIX AND SO I HAVE GOTTEN SOME INTEREST THIS YEAR FROM NEW APPLICANTS TO WE'LL SEE WHEN THE APPLICATION IS OPEN. WE ALSO HAVE THE CHILD PASSENGER SAFETY PROGRAM. THIS IS JUST SOME OF THE THINGS WE HAVE DONE IN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS GET TRAFFIC SAFETY AWARD FOR THIS. WE GO TO VARIOUS EVENTS AND EDUCATE FREQUENTLY. THE BOOSTER CHART IS MY FAVORITE. I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE I BARELY MEET REQUIREMENTS TO NOT BE IN A BOOSTER SEAT SO THAT'S ALWAYS FUN. WITH THAT PROGRAM THIS YEAR HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT SLOWER AND I WILL ADMIT IT'S BEEN A BUSY YEAR WITH THE MOVE AND ALL THE ADJUSTMENTS WE'VE MADE.

WE'RE NOT QUITE WHERE WE WERE THIS TIME LAST YEAR BUT WE'VE DONE TEN INSPECTIONS. SEVEN NEW SEATS ISSUED AT VARIETY OF DIFFERENT PARTNERSHIPS.

WE PARTNERED THIS MONTH WE HAD A CLASS W LOCAL NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION SJRC BELONG AND WE WERE ABLE TO PARTNER TO ISSUE A COUPLE SEATS AT THAT EVENT. COMMUNITY OUTREACH WE CONTINUE TO BE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY EITHER SUMMER KICK-OFF PARTY.

WE HAVE GONE TO SCHOOLS TO TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT CAREER DAYS AND THINGS OF THAT SORT. SO ALWAYS OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY. AND WE CURRENTLY HAVE SEVEN CITY OF VICTORIA EMPLOYEES THAT ARE CAR SEAT TECHNICIANS INCLUDING MYSELF. I RECENTLY RESERTER FIE SOD ANOTHER TWO YEAR TERM FOR ME FOR THAT.

AND SO AS YOU CAN SEE THE PAST FEW YEARS WE DID HAVE A REALLY HIGH YEAR IN FISCAL YEAR 24 PRIMARILY TO BIG EVENTS WE HAD AT TARGET. THIS PAST YEAR AND CURRENT YEAR HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE BUT HOPE TO HAVE ONE IN SEPTEMBER POTENTIALLY NEW PARKERING LOT AT PUBLIC SAFETY HEADQUARTERS THERE'S A NICE CORNER ON THE FAR LEFT-HAND SIDE OF THE BUILDING TO PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT.

AND SO WITH THAT THE 55,000 IS FOR THE GRANT PROGRAM FOR THIS PROPOSED YEAR. AND THE $51,239 FOR THE CHILD PASSENGER SAFETY PROGRAM ALSO INCLUDES GENERAL CHILD SAFETY ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS FOR STAFF THAT WORK THAT PROGRAM.

AND SO THE ACTUAL PROGRAM FOR THE CHILD PASSENGER SAFETY IS ABOUT 10,000 OF THAT AND THE REST IS ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH ADMINISTRATION OF THAT PROGRAM.

WE DO STILL HAVE EVERYBODION WITH ALLOCATIONS WE DID BUILD UP A FUND BALANCE PRYER TO LAUNCHING OF THIS PROGRAM.

PROJECTED TO HAVE AN ENDING FUND BALANCE OF 191,000 AT THE END OF NEXT FISCAL YEAR. AND THEN MOVING FORWARD AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY WE MAY PROPOSE TO EXPAND USAGE.

A FUND USAGE FOR THAT AND WE MAY BRING THAT NEXT TO YOU ALL.

AS WE LOOK TO MAKE SURE IT'S MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY IN CONTINUING OUR PARTNERSHIPS WITH CHILD PASSENGER SAFETY. CAR CRASHES ARE LEADING CAUSES FOR SERIOUS INJURIES TO CHILDREN.

AND AS LONG AS THE COUNTY DOES NOT COME AND RETRACT THAT LAW THAT FUNDING WILL BE AVAILABLE AS LONG AS THEY DON'T COME BACK. THEY ALSO RECEIVE A PORTION NOT SURE ONE THAT'S CURRENTLY UTILIZED FOR.

AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD GO AWAY NECESSARILY UNLESS THEY CHOSE TO DO THAT. SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY

QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >> NO THANK YOU.

I KNOW THESE PROGRAMS ARE A LABOURER OF LOVE FOR YOU AND YOUR TEAM. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

MR. GARZA ANYTHING ELSE FOR US THIS EVENING?

>> NO, SIR. >> AND I UNDERSTAND WE WILL NOT

HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION? >> CORRECT.

>> YOU'RE TOO GOOD TO US. ALL RIGHT THEN WE WILL ADJOURN AT 7

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