[A. CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:07] >> GOOD EVENING WELCOME TO OUR COUNCIL MEETING FOR TUESDAY FEBRUARY 3, I WANT TO GIVE A PARTICULAR SPECIAL WELCOME TO SOME BOY SCOUTS WE HAVE FROM TROOP 364. WELCOME GUYS. GLAD YOU ARE HERE. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> YES, SIR. DE LA GARZA, PRESENT. KIDDER, HERE. SCOTT, HERE. YOUNG, HERE. LOFFGREN, HERE. MAYOR CROCKER HERE. IF YOU WOULD RISE AND JOIN ME FOR THE PLEDGE OUT OF ALLEGIANCE FOLLOWED BY A MOMENT OF SILENCE. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC, FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. [INAUDIBLE] >> THANK YOU. [1. Announcements/Reminders:] PLEASE BE SEATED. ALRIGHT. AGAIN, WELCOME EVERYONE. WE WILL BEGIN OUR MEETING WITH ANNOUNCEMENTS AND REMINDERS. MR. GARZA DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR US? >> I HAVE A FEW ANNOUNCE. OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED MONDAY FEBRUARY 16 IN OFFENSIVE OF PRESIDENT DAY AND REOPEN FEBRUARY 16. GARBEN YARD WASTE AND RECYCLING COLLECTED AS NORMAL. THE PUBLIC LIBRARY CLOSES-ON BEHALF OF COURT WE WANT TO REMIND THE PUBLIC THEY WILL HOST COURT DOCKETS. AS PART OF WARRANT RESOLUTION MONTH. AS COMMUNITY SERVICE OR REDUCE FINES MAY BE AVAILABLE. FOR MORE INFORMATION CONTACT THE COURT AT 361-485-3050. ON BEHALF OF ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICE AND KEEP VICTORIA BEAUTIFUL, WE INVITE THE PUBLIC SEEKING VOLUNTEERS FOR CLEANUP IN BLUE RIDGE NEIGHBORHOOD. MEET AT [INAUDIBLE] RECOVERY OUTREACH 802 EAST CRESTWOOD 9 A.M. WORKING IN TEAMS VOLUNTEERS GO DOOR TO DOOR MOVING TRASH AND TREE LIMB FRZ KIRK FOR PICK UP. FOR MORE INFORMATION ON THE CLEAN UP, VISIT KEEPVICTORIABEAUTIFUL.ORG. [2. Public & Employee Recognitions:] THAT'S ALL I HAVE THIS EVENING. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PUBLIC EMPLOYEE RECOGNITIONS AND BEGIN WITH ITEM B2 A, WHICH IS OUR KEEP VICTORIA BEAUTIFICATION AWARD FOR FEBRUARY. MRS. BYRD. WELCOME. >> GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. SO, I LIKE TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT WE CELEBRATE BUSINESSES THAT DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A TON OF GREEN SPACE, BUT STILL DO A GREAT JOB OF PUTTING THEIR BEST FOOT FORWARD AND HELPING TO KEEP VICTORIA BEAUTIFUL AND TONIGHT'S WINNER IS A GREAT EXAMPLE THAT. OUR FEBRUARY BEAUTIFICATION AWARD WINNER IS LAHACIENDA MEXICAN GRILL IN FRONT OF THE MALL. THEY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF GREEN SPACE. BASICALLY MOST OF THE PROPERTY IS TAKEN UP BY THE PARKING LOT AND BUILDING ITSELF, BUT THEY DO HAVE THIS VERY COOL ROCK GARDEN OUT FRONT THAT HAS METAL CACTUS SCULPTURE AND COOL WAGON AND PALMS AND STUFF AND THEY DO A GREAT JOB OF KEEPING EVERYTHING NEAT AND CLEAN AND OF COURSE, WE ARE JUST COMING OFF OF DAYS AND DAYS AND DAYS OF FREEZES, BUT THEIR PROPERTY STILL REALLY LOOKS EXCELLENT AND WHEN YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT YOUR NOMINATIONS THAT YOU CAN SND IN ANY TIME FOR THIS BEAUTIFICATION AWARD AS YOU DRIVE AROUND TOWN, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A PROPERTY THAT HAS A TON OF TREES OR TON OF GREEN SPACE IN GENERAL AND LAHACIENDA DESERVES THIS BEAUTIFICATION AWARD SO I LIKE TO INTRODUCE BENNY SANCHEZ AND CONGRATULATE HIM WITH THIS AWARD. [00:05:01] (APPLAUSE) >> HELLO. MY NAME IS BENNY SANCHEZ, THE OWNER OF LAHACIENDA. IT IS HONOR TO RECEIVE THE AWARD AFTER ALL THE CHANGES WE HAVE DONE. WE ARE IN THE WORKS UPDATING THE PATIO AND BRINGING A NEW BAR MENU TO SERVE OUR BEAUTIFUL CITY. I LIKE TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND PEOPLE OF VICTORIA BECAUSE WITHOUT THEM WE WOULDN'T BEABLY TO DO THIS OVER 23 YEARS. I WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE MY FATHER DREAM REALITY AND IT A HUGE HONOR TO RECEIVE THE AWARD FROM THE COMMUNITY. I HOPE TO SEE EACH AND EVERY FACE AT LAHACIENDA AND THANK YOU AND HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. >> THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS. (APPLAUSE) ALRIGHT. MR. GARZA, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER PUBLIC OR EMPLOYEE RECOGNITIONS? >> I HAVE A COUPLE EMPLOYEE RECOGNITIONS. YOU MAY RECALL THAT A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, WE HONORED SOME PARKS AND RECREATION EMPLOYEES FOR WINNING A TRUCK AND TRAILER EVENT, AND THEY ARE NOW HEADING TO THE STATE COMPETITION AND SO, CREW LEADER COLTEN HARP IS HERE. COLTEN, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND STANDING AND MAINTENANCE WORKER JOHN LOPEZ COULDN'T BE WITH US, BUT THEY WILL ATTEND AND COMPETE IN THE STATE FINAL IN THE MAINTENANCE RODEO AFTER WINNING THE TRUCK AND TRAILER AT THE REGIONAL LEVEL NOVEMBER 6. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME PARK AND REC DEPARTMENT PARTICIPATED AND CONFIDENT COLTEN AND JOHN WILL BRING BACK THE GOLD MEDAL TO VICTORIA SO BEST OF LUCK TO YOU AND JOHN. IN ADDITION, THE VICTORIA FIRE DEPARTMENT SUBMITTED THIS RECOGNITION AND I THINK IT'S WORTHWHILE. BUT OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE JAMES FOOT IT DIRECTOR. AND OUR RADIO COMMUNICATION TECHNICIAN, WENDER GIGEAL FOR WORK ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENT RADIO SYSTEMS. ALLOWING TO COMMUNICATE WITH OTHER AGENCIES. OF COURSE JAMES WAS UP HERE RECENTLY DISCUSSING THE INTEROPERABILITY IMPROVEMENTS HE IS SPEARHEADING FOR QUITE SOME TIME. FEBRUARY 3 THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAD TO REQUEST AID FROM THE JACKSON COUNTY EMERGENCY SERVICE DEPARTMENT TO RESPOND TO TWO STRUCTURE FIRES. WHICH DOESN'T HAPPEN OFTEN BUT WHEN IT DOES CAN CREATE CHAOS. THANKS TO IT WORK BEHIND THE SCENES WE WERE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE OTHER AGENCY, WHICH GREATLY IMPROVED OUR CUBASTY TO WORK TOGETHER. LIKE TO THANK THE QUAIL CREEK FIRE DEPARTMENT WHO RESPONDED TO THE CITY AND STAFFED A STATION DURING THE INCIDENT. AS WELL ALL VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENTS THAT REMAINED ON STANDBY TO HANDLE ADDITIONAL EMERGENCIES. JAMES AND WENDELL AND OUR ENTIRE FIRE DEPARTMENT, KUDOS FOR ADEQUATE RESPONSE AND FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP JAMES. THANK YOU. (APPLAUSE) [3. Items from Council:] >> OKAY. THANK YOU MR. GARZA. THEN WE'LL MOVE TO ITEMS FROM COUNCIL. I HAVE A COUPLE THIS EVENING AND IF ANYBODY HAS SOME WE CAN JUMP INTO THAT. ON IS A SOMBER NOTE MANY MAY HAVE AHEARD OF THE PASSING OF HARLEY FISC. MR. FISC WAS VERY INVOLVED IN OUR COMMUNITY. SERVED ON THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD, WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN BIG PART OF FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY. ALWAYS AT COUNCIL REMINDING US ABOUT BOOK SALES AND THEN HE ALSO SERVED ON THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION. SO, OBVIOUSLY LEAVES A HOLE AND WE GIVE OUR CONDOLENCES TO HIS FAMILY. SECOND ITEM ON A MORE UPBEAT NOTE, I WANT TO RECOGNIZE ONE OF OUR OWN, MR. DE LA GARZA WHO JUST CELEBRATED 50 YEARS CAREER IN PUBLIC SERVICE WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND CONTINUING THAT AS A INSTRUCTOR LIFE SAVING TECHNIQUES AND SO, JUST WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU MAYOR. >> QUITE A MILESTONE. PLEASE JOIN ME CONGRATULATING. >> THANK YOU. >> DID YOU START WHEN YOU WERE 5? >> WHAT'S THAT? >> DID YOU START WHEN YOU WERE 5? >> I WAS 8. >> YOUNGEST FIREFIGHTER. [4. Citizen Communication:] ANY OTHER ITEMS FROM COUNCIL? NO? OKAY. WE'LL JUMP INTO CITIZEN COMMUNICATIONS. I HAVE A FEW CARDS HERE. JUST AS REMINDER, PLEASE LIMIT COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES OUT OF RESPECT FOR OTHER PEOPLE THAT WANT TO COMMENT AND ATTENDEES AT THE MEETING. WE WILL START WITH MRS. BRIDGET SHORT. MRS. SHORT, WELCOME BACK. GOOD TO SEE YOU. >> HI. NICE TO BE WELCOMED BACK. [00:10:01] I SPOKE THE LAST TIME THAT WE MET AND I SPOKE ABOUT HOW WE HAVE NEIGHBORS IN DOWNTOWN VICTORIA, WHICH IS BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD AND I LOVE LIVING THERE, BUT WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO LOVE-I LOVE CATS BUT DON'T LIKE CATS BEING FED ON EVERYBODY ELSE'S CURB IN FRONT OF THEIR HOMES. WHICH, BRINGS BUZZARD, WHICH BRINGS SKUNKS AND ALL KIND OF CRITTERS THAT REALLY DON'T BELONG IN THE CITY, AND IT HAS BEEN A HAZARD BECAUSE WE HAVE BUZZARDS THAT LIVE ON PEOPLE'S HOMES WAITING FOR THESE PEOPLE TO FEED THESE CATS AND LITERALLY THE BUZZARD HAVE BECOME PETS AND THEY HOP UP TO THIS LADY WHO IS VERY KIND AND FEEDING THE CATS, BUT AGAIN, FEED THE CATS IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE, NOT THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD OF DOWNTOWN VICTORIA. I'M IN STRONG FAVOR OF THIS ORDINANCE IF WE COULD JUST SOMEHOW QUELL THIS FEEDING OF ANIMALS. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. APPRECIATE IT. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> NEXT CARD IS FROM LEO BELL. MR. BELL. WELCOME. >> THANK YOU. I HAD A CONCERN ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE KIDS LEAVING THE SPORTS COMPLEX ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE SPORTS COMPLEX. THERE IS A DITCH THAT FILLS WITH WATER OFTEN AND THERE'S IS BARELY TWO LANE STREET WHERE CARS HAVE TO GO INTO THE OTHER CAR LANE OR POSSIBLY RUN THE KIDS IN THE DITCH. I WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE PUT A SIDEWALK BACK THERE FOR THE KIDS COMING FROM THE PARK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. >> OKAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT. I APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU. >> NEXT CARD IS FROM THOMAS GOOSH. GUY LOOKS VAGUELY FAMILIAR. WELCOME THOMAS. GOOD TO SEE YOU. >> GOOD EVENING MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE I WAS TOLD TO BE HERE. I AM ACTUALLY HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE BON AIR SUBDIVISION PROJECT YOU GUYS ARE AWARDING. I'M WORKING WITH THE SUBTRACTER FOR THE LOW BIDDER ON THE PROJECT AND WHEN THAT WAS PUT IN THE AGENDA PACKET WE WERE A LITTLE SURPRISED THAT IT WAS AWARDED NOT TO THE LOW BIDDER, BUT MORE SURPRISED AT THE LACK OF INFORMATION EXPLAINING THAT DECISION. THERE IS NO EXPLANATION IN YOUR PACKET EXPLAINING WHY STAFF IS GOING TO RECOMMEND TO YOU THAT YOU SPEND HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR MORE THEN YOU NEED TO ON THAT PROJECT. KNOWING OF COURSE THERE COULD BE OTHER FACTORS IN THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS, I REACHED OUT TO THE CITY AND ASKED FOR A COPY OF THE BID TAB TO FIND OUT WHAT THE REASON WAS THEY WERE PASSED OVER. I ACTUALLY ASKED TWICE, PLUS SUBMITTED A PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT REQUEST AND I WAS TOLD IF I WANT THAT INFORMATION I SHOULD COME TO THIS MEETING. SO, HERE I AM. NOW, CERTAINLY I KNOW THAT YOU CAN AWARD BASED ON LOTS OF CRITERIA. YOU CAN GIVE PREFERENCE TO LOCAL BUSINESSES, BUT [INAUDIBLE] ISN'T LOCAL. YOU CAN GIVE PREFERENCE TO BUSINESSES YOU WORKED WITH BEFORE OR HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH, BUT MY GUY SAYS HIS CONTACTS, HIS REFERENCES HAVEN'T BEEN CHECKED YET. AND SO, I'M STRUGGLING TO SEE WHY THE DECISION WAS MADE THE WAY IT WAS AND HOPING THAT YOU ARE GOING TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS TONIGHT WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION WHO YOU AWARDED THAT BID TO. I'M STILL A RESIDENT IN THE CITY AND I THINK THAT ANY TIME THAT THE CITY IS AWARDING A PROJECT AND SPENDING A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS MORE THEN THEY HAVE TO ON SOMETHING, THEY SHOULD EXPLAIN IT TO THEIR RESIDENTS WHY THEY ARE SPENDING MORE MONEY THEN THEY HAVE TO. AND I THINK IF THE CITY IS GOING TO PASS OVER THE LOW BIDDER, HOW ARE YOU BEEN CHECKING REFERENCES? I THINK THE CITY SHOULD EXPLAIN TO THAT CONTRACTOR EITHER BID WASN'T GOOD ENOUGH. SO, I'M HERE TONIGHT TO ASK QUESTIONS AND I HOPE YOU GUYS WILL CONSIDER THOSE QUESTIONS WHEN YOU ARE EVALUATE THAT AND AS A RESIDENT, I HOPE YOU WILL ALL SAVE US A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. THANKS. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. MORE TO COME ON THAT I'M SURE. MY NEXT CARD IS FROM MONICA PRIDDY. DID I PRONOUNCE IT CORRECTLY? GOOD EVENING. [00:15:01] WELCOME. >> THANK YOU. GOT TO LOWER THIS. I'M A LITTLE SHORT. YES, I WAS COMING BEFORE YOU TO SPEAK ABOUT THE ANIMAL ORDINANCE THAT IS GOING TO BE SPOKEN ABOUT TONIGHT. I LIVE DOWNTOWN AND I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS ORDINANCE. I AM A ANIMAL RESCUER AND ADVOCATE AND ALSO USED TO WORK FOR THE CITY YEARS AGO, I'M A CITY PLANNER AND CURRENTLY EMPLOYED BY URBAN ENGINEERING. AS SOMEONE WHO IS A ANIMAL RESCUER, THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS THAT SHOULD CONCERN PEOPLE, BUT ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS IN LOOKING AT THIS AS A DOWNTOWNER IS, ON A PERSONAL LEVEL, MY NEIGHBOR WHO HAS MOVED AND RELOCATED USED TO FEED FARRELL CATS WHICH WAS FINE, BUT THEY RELOCATED, SO THESE KITTIES CAME OVER INTO MY YARD. I HAVE HAD MY DOG, I HAVE THREE OF THEM, ALL RESCUES, THAT HAS BEEN SICK SINCE BEFORE CHRISTMAS AND WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET HER WELL AND THIS IS BECAUSE THERE ARE FERULE CATS THAT COME IN OUR YARD. DR. [INAUDIBLE] HAS BEEN DOING A GOOD JOB TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF HER AND SHE'S BEEN TO THE VET NUMEROUS TIMES AND WE WILL SPEND WHAT WE HAVE TO DO TO GET HER WELL AND THAT WILL ALL GET TAKEN CARE OF I'M SURE. SHE A LITTLE BIT OLDER AND, BUT THESE CATS DO CARRY DISEASES AND THEY COME INTO YOUR YARD AND THEY WILL GET YOUR PERSONAL PETS SICK AND WHEN YOU HAVE A SENIOR DOG, THIS CAN HAPPEN. BUT, AS A RESCUER, I DID A LOT OF WORK WHEN I LEFT THE CITY AND I RAN AROUND AND DID ALL SORTS OF STUFF, AND I WENT AND MET WITH THE LADY IN CORPUS CHRISTI NAMED CHERYL MARTINEZ AND CHERYL STARTED THIS FANTASTIC ORGANIZATION CALLED, PACK, WHICH IS PEOPLE ADVOCATING FOR ANIMAL CONTROL. NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT ALL THE LETTERS STAND FOR. BUT, WHAT THEY DO IS THEY DO LOW COST SPAY AND NEUTER AND CHERYL TAUGHT ME HOW TO DO ALL THESE GREAT THINGS AND ONE THING YOU CAN DO IS YOU CAN RUN ANIMAL CALCULATORS AND FIND OUT HOW MANY SPAYS AND NEUTERS YOU HAVE TO RUN USING CENSUS BUREAU INFORMATION AND USES INFORMATION ON VETERINARY WEBSITE JZ ALL SORTS OF STUFF TO FIND WHAT ARE THE PROBLEMS AND WHAT DO YOU NEED TO DO TO GET TO ZERO GROWTH POPULATION FOR FERULE ANIMALS FOR ANIMALS THAT ARE ALSO DEALING WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE-UNDER THE POVERTY POPULATION AND STUFF LIKE THAT,ING AND BASICALLY GIVEN THAT DATA WE GOT A TOTAL OF LOOKING AT THE ENTIRE COUNTY, 58.890 TOTAL PETS AND OF THOSE, 15.951 ARE IN OUR TARGET POPULATION THAT WOULD NEED TO GET SPAYED AND NEUTERED WITHIN ONE YEAR AND THEN IT WILL GO DOWN FROM THERE. I WORK A LOT WITH MY TIME IS EXPIRED. I WORK A LOT WITH STAFF. STAFF DOES A REALLY GREAT JOB ON ALL ENDS AND EVERYBODY THAT I TOUCH BASE WITH ON A REGULAR BASIS AND I REALLY HOPE THAT Y'ALL LEAN INTO THE EXPERTS AND JUST LISTEN TO THE INFORMATION THAT THEY GIVE Y'ALL ON THIS AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. FINAL CARD I HAVE IS FROM MICHAEL-- GOOD EVENING. >> GOOD EVENING LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. I'M MICHAEL. I LIVE AT 2107 NORTH JORDAN. ANIMAL CARE SERVICES, THAT REPRESENTS THE COUNTY THEY ULTIMATELY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR CHASING STRAY DOGS AND ADOPTIONS. IT ISN'T THE POLICE OFFICER. YOU WILL NOT SEE A POLICE OFFICER WITH A POLE AND ANIMAL CARE SERVICES TRUCK CHASING ANIMALS. THEY CAN BE USED IN SOME LIMITED CASES FOR PROTECTIONS FOR VIOLENT DOGS AND STUFF LIKE THAT BECAUSE ANIMAL CARE SERVICES DONT HAVE WEAPONS AND ALL MY LIFE IN VICTORIA I HAVE ONLY SEEN A POLICE OFFICER GIVE ONE TICKET FOR A LOSE DOG BECAUSE THE ROT TRIED TO TEAR THE FENDER OFF THE CAR. THE OFFICER WAS SO SCARED HE DID LIKE THIS AND JUST WROTE HIM A TICKET AND STUFF. [00:20:03] BUT, ANYWAY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HEARD ABOUT THE GROVE APARTMENTS, THEY HAVE BEEN HAVING LOTS OF PROBLEMS WITH MANAGEMENT AND THE OWNER NOT TAKING CARE OF PROBLEMS AND THEY WENT TO K A B25 AND HE HAD TO BE DISGUISED BECAUSE THEY FIND WHO COMPLAINS THEY PROBABLY GET EVICTED FROM LEAKY, NO HOT WATER IN THE WINTER LIKE NOW, AND STUFF LIKE THAT. THERE'S WATER IN THE ROOF LEAKING, RODENT, MICES AND STUFF AND COUPLE YEARS AGO THERE WAS THREE SHOOTINGS AND HE GOT 35 YEARS. SHE SHOT THREE PEOPLE AND KILLED ONE AND STUFF LIKE THAT AND THE NEW OWNER HAS IMPROVED IT, BUT THERE ARE SO MANY COMPLAINTS IT USED TO BE THE AUTUMN APARTMENTS BUT NOW THE GROVE APARTMENTS AND I JUST DONT BELIEVE ALL THAT MYSTERIOUSLY FIXED IN ONE DAY AND I DON'T KNOW CODE ENFORCEMENT OR ENVIRONMENT OR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO GET OUT THERE AND SOMEONE IN FACEBOOK SAID CANDACE MATTHEWS NEEDS TO GET INVOLVED SHE IS A LADY WITH A PH.D, A BLACK LADY AND GOING AROUND CALLING SLUMLORDS. NOT CALLING THEM SLUMLORDS. MAY DO THE BEST THEY CAN. VICTORIA OAKS TRAILER PARK, THERE IS BRUSHES THAT GO ALL THE WAY TO THE SIDEWALK AND IT ISN'T FIXED AND YOU CAN'T RIDE ON THE SIDEWALK. I UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU ONLY HAVE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS INVESTMENT, IT IS TOUCH. HE WAS AT 80 BUT UP TO AT LEAST HUNDRED MILLION BECAUSE HE WENT FROM 10 TRAILER PARKS TO 7, BUT WISH HE WOULD TAKE CARE OF IT BECAUSE DAN FOWLER THE GENERAL MANAGER AND THE PERSONAL INJURY LAWYER, OVERALL THEY HAVE DONE A POOR JOB AND ONLY GOT IT DONE BECAUSE RICK MADRID AND I APPRECIATE RICK MADRID FOR CHASING ALL THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T DO THEIR JOB. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. [1. An Ordinance Authorizing the Issuance, Sale and Delivery of Certificat...] ALRIGHT. THAT WILL CONCLUDE CITIZEN COMMUNICATIONS. WE WILL JUMP INTO ITEMS WITH PUBLIC HEARINGS AND BEGIN WITH ITEM C1. >> ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE SALE AND DELIVERY OF CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION SERIES 2026 IN MAXIMUM PRINCIPAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $12 MILLION APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING ALL OTHER INSTRUMENTS AND PROCEDURES RELATED THERETO AND PROVIDING IMMEDIATE EFFECTIVE DATE. >> GOOD EVENING. >> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THIS ITEM IS TO APPROVE THE SALE OF CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATION. TOOK PLACE THIS MORNING TO PROVIDE $12 MILLION IN FUND FOR RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT. WITH US TONIGHT WE HAVE BOND COUNCIL JAY. THE FINANCIAL ADVISOR DUSTY IS OUT OF STATE SO WON'T BE AVAILABLE BUT PROVIDED ME NOTES ON THE BOND SALE THAT I WILL SHARE WITH YOU ALL. CAN YOU GO TO THE THIRD PAGE? SO, ON THE HANDOUT AND ON THE SCREEN IS SNAPSHOT OF DETAILS OF THE SALE. TOP LEFT YOU SEE ALL IN TRUE INTEREST COST AT 3.955 PERCENT. THE CO RECEIVED GOOD DEMAND FROM INVESTORS WHICH ALLOWED FOR A LOWERING OF THE INTEREST RATE. . THAT RESULTS IN ABOUT $70 THOUSAND LESS THEN ANNUAL DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS THEN WE ESTIMATED WHICH GIVES US FLEXIBILITY GOING INTO NEXT YEAR OF DEBT CAPACITY. THE BOND RATING AFFIRMED AT A A. THE COMMENTS WERE THE CITY STRONG FINANCES MANAGEMENT AND GOVERNMENT CONTRIBUTED TO THE RATING WHICH HELPED TO GET THIS LOWER INTEREST RATE. THE CO HAVE A CALL FEATURE OF AUGUST 15, 2035 WHICH IS EARLIEST RATE TO FINANCE OR REDEEM THE BONDS. THE BOND TRANSACTION GOES TO THE STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL FOR APPROVAL AND ONCE APPROVED WE EXPECT TO RECEIVE THE FUNDS ON MARCH 10. ALL I HAVE UNLESS THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME OR ALSO FOR JAY. >> ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS ON THIS? NO? OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION. SO, WITH THAT THEN, I WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING WITH RESPECT TO ITEM C1. IF THERE IS ANYONE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS COUNCIL ON THIS MATTER, PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME. SEEING NO ONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL ENTERTAIN ANY MOTIONS FOR C1. >> MOVE WE ADOPT C1. >> SECTD. [00:25:01] SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR AYE. ANY OPPOSED? [2. Public Hearing on Establishing a Stormwater Drainage Utility and Drain...] THE ORDINANCE IS ADOPTED. MOVING TO ITEM C2. >> PUBLIC HEARING ON ESTABLISHING A STORMWATER DRAINAGE UTILITY AND DRAINAGE FEE. THIS WILL NOT HAVE A VOTE. IT IS PRESENTATION. >> GOOD EVENING MR. REYNA. >> GOOD EVENING. ALLISON WILL GIVE YOU COMMUNICATION PLAN. ON THE PREVIOUS ITEM I GOT TO SAY, I'M AMAZED HOW CITY COMES OUT ON THE BOND SALES. A WHOLE POINT IS LOT OF SAVINGS, SO- >> THAT WAS THE BEST PART OF THE PRESENTATION. >> ABSOLUTELY. I'M GLAD FINANCE IS DOING A HELL OF A JOB. HAD GOOD TEACHERS. ANYWAY. THANK YOU. LET'S MOVE ON. I WILL TAKE DOWN TO MEMORY LANE REAL QUICK. BACK IN NOVEMBER OF 2013 COUNCIL APPROVED A CONTRACT TO DEVELOP A STORM DRAINAGE UTILITY FEE PROGRAM ALONG WITH 5 YEAR BUDGET. THE PROJECT DIDN'T START TILL JANUARY 24. DID YOU HAVE THE HANDOUTS? I SAW DR. YOUNG LOOKING AT ME LIKE WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT. >> THANK YOU. >> YOU ARE QUITE WELCOME. >> I JUST LOVE LOOKING AT YOU. >> I KNOW YOU DO, IT IS OKAY. I STAY AT THE HOLIDAY INN. THIS IS TWO YEARS PROCESS. IT ISN'T TO SAY THAT-WHY IS IT TAKING SO LONG? THAT ISN'T THE POINT OF THE CONVERSATION. JUST TO MAKE SURE OF THE PUBLIC SAKE AND COUNCIL AS YOU ARE AWARE, WE WANT TO TAKE OUR TIME DUE DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE THE T'S CROSSED AND IS I'S DOTTED BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT FOR US. WHEN YOU DO NEW PROGRAM AND NEW FEE YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE YOUR DUCKS IN A ROW. WE HAD THREE GROUPS THE FINANCIAL SIDE OF IT, [INAUDIBLE] ENGINEER WITH THE DATA AND OF COURSE STAFF INTEGRATING ALL THEIR STUFF. NOW, YOU PROBABLY WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS STORM DRAINAGE UTILITY FEE PROGRAM IS. BASICALLY A USER BASE FEE. THAT PROVIDES FUTURE PROGRAM FUNDING TO MANAGE THE CITY DRAINAGE MAINTENANCE AND FUTURE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS. AS YOU RECALLING THE CITY HAD THOSE LISTED IN DRAINAGE PLANS. FOR EXAMPLE, 1999 MASTER PLAN WAS DEVELOPED BASED UPON A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT. MODERATE, MITIGATE FLOODING. THEN WE CAME BACK IN 2007 AND ADDED MORE THINGS TO THAT. WE DID THE [INAUDIBLE] AND NORTH--IMPRUCHBMENTS. ALL THOSE THREE PROJECTS WERE MILLIONS AND WE USE BOND ISSUANCE TO PAY FOR THOSE 20 YEARS AGO AND THAT IS TAX DOLLARS. WHAT WE ARE DOING RIGHT NOW, SORRY LET ME BACK UP. IN 21 WE CAME BACK AND REVISED IT AGAIN. FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE IT CAME OUT TO $129 MILLION OF MAINTENANCE PROJECT AND OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT MAINLY MAINTENANCE THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN OUR SYSTEM. THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ADDRESSED. CURRENTLY WE ARE DOING DRAINAGE PIPE CLEANING, VERY LIMITED. IF YOU LOOK AT THE PAST 10 YEARS THE BUDGET IS FLAT HASN'T CHANGED. WE DID ADD STREET MAINTENANCE ABOUT 5, 6 YEARS AGO, BUT THAT'S IT. BUT YOU RECALL THAT--YOU GOT A DROUGHT, NO RAIN, YOU HAVE NO ISSUES. BUT WHEN THE RAIN COMES DOWN YOU GET THE PHONE CALLS. THEN YOU SEE ISSUE AT HAND. THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY WHEN WE START THINKING HOW WE ARE COMING UP WITH A FUNDING MECHANISM TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE MAINSS. MAINTENANCE. IT IS JUST REALITY. WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN THE SYSTEM BUDGET. BASICALLY, WHY IMPLEMENT A USER BASE FEE? WELL, IT WILL PROVIDE RELIABLE SOURCE OF REVENUE STREAM, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE RIGHT NOW. IT IS EQUITABLE AND FAIRNESS BASED UPON USAGE AND I'LL EXPLAIN THAT IN A MINUTE. WHEN IMPLEMENTED IT WILL REDUCE FLOOD AND EROSION AS WELL. PROVIDES LONG-TERM PROACTIVE MAINTENANCE. UNLIKE PROPERTY TAXES, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS IS MORE EQUITABLE. WAY OF CHARGING A PROPERTY. BECAUSE IT IS BASED ON IMPERVIOUS SERVICE USAGE, RAIN FALL RUN-OFF. STORM WATER FEES ARE BASED ON THE DEMAND THE PROPERTY PUTS ON THE CITY SYSTEM. [00:30:01] DIFFERENCE AS THE WATER AND WASTEWATER SYSTEM OR ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICE GARBAGE AND STUFF LIKE THAT. NOW, WE DO CURRENTLY HAVE TWO OTHER UTILITY BASED-THANK YOU. I THOUGHT THAT WAS A [INAUDIBLE] WE HAVE TWO OTHER USER BASE PROGRAM. WASTEWATER FUND, THAT ONE BASED ON USAGE AND THE OTHER IS ENVIRONMENTAL. THAT IS IT. IF IT GOES THROUGH, THIS IS THE THIRD. FUND DEDICATED FOR THE SYSTEM. BASICALLY WHAT IS IMPERVIOUS SERVICE? BASICALLY THE AREA AS YOU SEE THE PICTURE, THE LIGHT GREEN, WHERE WATER CANNOT PASS THROUGH. GRASS, OPEN FIELD WATER CAN SINK DOWN. PRETTY STRAIGHT FORWARD ON THAT. ANY QUESTIONS? GOT SINUS GOING ON SO BEAR WITH ME. SO, WHO IS EXEMPT? OF COURSE CITY VICTORIA IS EXEMPT. BISD. HIGHER EDUCATION COLLEGES LIKE THAT. STATE AGENCIES. WHO WILL PAY RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL. I GET INTO THAT MORE DETAIL. EXCUSE ME. AS I SAID, HOW IS FEE IS DETERMINED BASED UPON IMPERVIOUS AREA. FIRST THING YOU DO IS FIGURE WHAT THE EQUIVALENT RESIDENTIAL UNIT. WHAT THE HECK IS THAT? ERU. IT IS RIGHT THERE. STANDARD USE TO CALCULATE STORM WATER. SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WELL, BASICALLY WE WENT IF TO THE CAD VICTORIA APPRAISAL DISTRICT, GOT OR 2004 ROW WE GOT ALL THE PROPERTIES. WE WENT THROUGH AND IDENTIFIED ALL THE RESIDENTIAL AND CAME UP WITH A MEAN OR AVERAGE OF 2300 SQUARE FEET IS AVERAGE HOUSE FOR VICTORIA. WE ARE GOING TO USE THAT NUMBER AS STANDARD OF 1ERU EQUALS 1300 SQUARE FEET. OKAY? AS A RESULT THAT, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD FOR ALL RESIDENTIALS AND EACH RESIDENTIAL UNIT THE HOUSEHOLD IS $5. OKAY? WHEN IT COMES TO COMMERCIAL, IT IS DIFFERENT. WE HAD TO FIGURE OUT TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE. DIVIDE BY THE 1 UNIT WHICH IS 1300, THEN TIMES BY 5 SO EVERYTHING IS EQUITABLE. THEN YOU HAVE IN THAT CASE A $53. [INAUDIBLE] EQUATES TO 10.6 UNITS OF ERU TIMES 5, THAT IS $53. QUESTIONS? RIGHT BELOW THAT IS GRAPH THAT CURRENTLY THIS IS I SAY 10, 12 MONTHS OLD. OTHER COMPARING-I DON'T LIKE COMPARE, BUT--WE HAVE $5, OTHER CITIES ARE MUCH HIGHER THEN US RIGHT NOW. NOW, IMPLEMENTING TIMELINE WOULD BE NOW THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING. WHEN WE COME BACK FEBRUARY 17 WE HAVE A SECOND AND THIRD PUBLIC HEARING. ON THE PROGRAM AND UTILITY FEE. DURING FEBRUARY AND MARCH, STAFF INTERNALLY WILL DEVELOP PROCESSES BECAUSE WE STILL AS I MENTIONED, WE STILL HAVE A 2003 TAX ROLL INFORMATION. YOU MIGHT HAVE A HOUSE THAT CHANGED SINCE THEN, SO WE STILL HAVE TO DO CLEANING. HOPEFULLY BY APRIL WILL HAVE CLEANED IT OUT. STILL, THIS IS A CONTINUING PROCESS BECAUSE I WILL NOT SIT HERE AND TELL IT IS HUNDRED PERCENT GUARANTEED EVERYTHING IS CORRECT. IN THE FEW MINUTES WHEN IT COMES UP, RESIDENTIAL HOUSING IS $5, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO COMMERCIAL LOOK AT THE GIS TO MAKE SURE DOES IT MAKE SENSE AND WE CAN START TALKING, YEAH THAT IS WRONG OR RIGHT OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. THERE IS LEARNING CURVE, CORRECTION CURVE WE HAVE TO TO. AND THERE IS A MAINTENANCE PROGRAM WE WANT TO IMPLEMENT AND ALL THAT HAS TO BE DEVELOPED. THEN WE COME BACK MARCH 3 HAVE THE SECOND AND THIRD VOTE ON THE UTILITY, AND EVERYTHING GOES WELL, HOPEFULLY APRIL WE START THE PROGRAM. QUESTIONS? IT IS NICE WHEN THERE IS NO QUESTIONS. YEAH ALL HAVE BEEN THROUGH THIS A LOT. >> WE HAVE SEEN THIS A TIME OR TWO. >> I WILL PASS BATON OVER TO ASHLEY, WHICH SHE HAS A GREAT INDICATION OF THE PLAN. >> I'LL GO OVER IT BRIEFLY. IF YOU HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS, I'M GOING TO TOSS IT BACK OVER TO GIL. HE CAN ANSWER ALL OF THEM FOR YOU. [00:35:01] ALRIGHT. SO, THE COMMUNICATION PLAN, THIS MIGHT BE FAMILIAR TO YOU RCHLT WE HAVE A LOT OF COMMUNICATION METHODS AND CHANNELS THAT WE USE EVERY DAY TO INFORM OUR RESIDENTS ABOUT VARYING TOPICS BUT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE TOPIC WHO MAY TUNE IN FOR THE FIRST TIME THIS IS GOOD REFRESHER. IF PASSED, THE CITY WILL USE THE STANDARD CHANNELS OF COMMUNICATION TO INSURE RESIDENT ARE INFORMED AND PREPARED FOR THE NEW FEE. THE CITY WEBSITE IS AVAILABLE TO MOST ANY RESIDENTS AND WILL SOON BE LAUNCHED. WE'LL GO OVER A DEMO OF IT HERE IN A MINUTE BUT IT ISN'T YET LIVE TO THE PUBLIC. WE ARE STILL WORKING THROUGH THE MAP GILBERT JUST MENTIONED A SECOND AGO. THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE. AND ACCESSIBLE FROM THE CITY HOME PAGE. THE CITY ALERT CENTER WHICH WAS DEBUED FALL 2024 IS NEWER METHOD OF NOTIFICATION. THAT WAS A STRATEGIC IMPLEMENTATION GETTING ALL ACCOUNT HOLDERS INTO THE NOTIFICATION SYSTEM SOFTWARE SO THIS WILL REACH ALL 20 THOUSAND PLUS RESIDENTIAL HOUSEHOLDS IN THE CITY LIMITS. AND SO THAT OF COURSE CAN BE REACHED BY PHONE CALL, E-MAIL AND OR TEXT MESSAGE OR COMBINATION OF THE THREE. UTILITY BILLING STATEMENTS ALSO HAVE INCLUSION LETTER WITH INFORMATION AS WELL AS A STAND ALONE MAILER THAT GOES TO ALL CITY HOUSEHOLDS AND OF COURSE DEVELOP BROCHURE PLACED IN HIGH TRAFFIC LOCATIONS. NEW CUSTOMERS OR RESIDENTS WHO COME TO THE OFFICE THE CLERKS WILL HAVE THAT ON HAND TO PASS OUT AND THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. STANDARD WE WRITE A NEWS RELEASE AND FROM THERE WE LEAN ON OUR LOCAL MEDIA PARTNERS TO USE THE INFORMATION WE PROVIDE DIRECTLY TO THEM AND THE PUBLIC VIA WEBSITE AND SOCIAL MEDIA TO HELP SPREAD THAT MESSAGE. HOPEFULLY WE GET SUBSEQUENT INTERVIEWS ON THIS VERY TOPIC. WE WILL ALSO PRODUCE A EDUCATIONAL VIDEO PSA THAT IS ON TV 15 AND YOU CAN BE CABLE SUBSCRIBER ON 15 AND 115 AND ALSO ACCESS IT FREE BY VISITING THE WEBSITE VICTORIATX.GOVTV13 AND WE HAVE POD CASTS AND SOCIAL MEDIA. NOW I'LL SHOW YOU ALL A DEMO OF THE WEB PAGE. THE GREAT THING ABOUT THE WEB PAGE WHILE THEY WORK ON PULLING IT UP IS, WE REALLY WORKED IN DETAIL WITH STAFF TO DEVELOP ALL POSSIBLE FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS THAT MIGHT COME UP FROM RESIDENTS, BUT REALLY THOSE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNERS WHO MIGHT HAVE MORE DETAILED QUESTIONS BASED OEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THEIR IMPERVIOUS AREAS. AND SO, IF YOU SCROLL DOWN, YOU'LL SEE A SUMMARY FIRST OFF ABOUT WHAT THIS IS. GIVES YOU SYNAPSIS WHAT GILBERT WENT OVER. IF YOU KEEP SCROLLING-WHAT WILL THE FEE BE? AND THEN HOW TO CALCULATE IT? THOSE ARE BIG PICTURE KEY TAKE AWAYS AND SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION WHETHER PROPOSED ORDINANCE, PRESENTATIONS THAT WERE GIVEN IN PAST COUNCIL MEETINGS AND ADDITIONAL EDUCATIONAL INFORMATION. CAN YOU SCROLL BACK UP TO F A Q? THIS OF COURSE IS THE LANDING PAGE THAT WOULD ANSWER MAJORITY OF WHAT WE ANTICIPATE RESIDENTS MIGHT HAVE. WHAT IS THE FEE? WHY IS IT USEFUL? WHY IS IT NECESSARY? HOW DOES THE CITY CURRENTLY MANAGE STORM WATER AND SO FORTH. IF YOU SCROLL DOWN, GILBERT IS VERY PROUD OF THE GRAPH THERE HE DREW HIMSELF. IT DOES IDENTIFY THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AREA HE MENTIONED. AND IT WILL BE THOSE YELLOW PIECES ON THIS GRAPH. GRAPHIC. OKAY. AND THE LAST THING I WANT TO SHOW YOU IS THE MAP. BY THE WAY, I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO SAM FOR DEVELOPING THE WEB PAGE. SHOUT OUT SAM. I WANT TO GO TO THE MAP AND SHOUT OUT GIS JENNIFER WAS KEY IN THIS AND SO HELPFUL TO PROPERTY OWNERS WHO HAVE QUESTIONS HOW I CALCULATE MY IMPERVIOUS AREA SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THIS IS ONLY GOING TO SHOW THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY LOCATIONS, NOT RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE REMEMBER IT IS FLAT RATE FOR THE RESIDENTIALS, BUT THIS ONE RIGHT HERE ONCE YOU HOVER OVER A PROPERTY, THAT IS HIGHLIGHTED IN PINK THOSE ARE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. YOU WILL NOTICE THERE IS A-THANK YOU FOR THAT, VICTORIA PLATINUM. SHOUT OUT VICTORIA PLATINUM. YOU SEE IMPERVIOUS SQUARE FOOTAGE IS 145.774. AND SO FORTH. SO, YOU DIVIDE BY 3200, IT ERU AND MULTIPLY BY $5 FEE AND YOU GET YOUR CALCULATION. HOPEFULLY THIS IS ANTICIPATING THOSE QUESTIONS THAT PEOPLE MIGHT GET. IT WILL BE FOUND ON THE WEB PAGE AND THAT WILL GO LIVE SOON. [00:40:02] THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SHARE FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE COMMUNICATION PLAN. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? >> ANY QUESTIONS ON COMMUNICATIONS? >> NOT ABOUT COMMUNICATIONS. >> BACK TO GILBERT. >> BACK TO GILBERT. I HAVE A COMMENT. I THINK THE F A Q PAGE MAY BE USEFUL IF YOU WOULD PULL THAT BACK UP AND SCROLL UP A LITTLE BIT. I THINK I SAW WHAT CAN THIS BE USED FOR? DID I SEE THAT? THERE WE GO. SO, CORRECT IF I'M WRONG, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS FEE ISN'T JUST MONEY THAT IS COMING IN AND WE CAN USE IT FOR ANYTHING WE WANT TO. THIS IS SPECIFIC TO MAINTENANCE OF THE STORM WATER DRAINAGE UTILITY SYSTEM AND THESE FEES CAN ONLY BE USED FOR IMPROVEMENTS WE IDENTIFIED THROUGH STUDY, WE NEED LOTS OF WORK AND MAINTENANCE AND IMPROVEMENT. >> YOU ARE CORRECT. ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. NO DIFFERENCE LIKE WATER UTILITY SYSTEM. THOSE ARE ASSIGNED FOR THAT OPERATION ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU DEAL WITH BONDS. THEY WANT THAT MONEY FOCUSED THERE. >> GOT IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. >> QUESTION ABOUT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. I ASSUME ON SOME COMMERCIAL PROPERTY THERE IS MORE THEN ONE WATER METER. HOW DO YOU DETERMINE WHO PAYS WHAT FEE ON THAT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY? >> DEPENDS--EXCUSE ME. LET ME GIVE A EXAMPLE LIKE, MIGHT HAVE A STRIP MALL. WE ARE GOING TO GO TOWARDS THE OWNER OF THE STRIP MALL. AND LET THE OWNER DECIDE ALLOCATION AND HOW HE WANTS THAT SPREAD ACROSS THE ATTENDANTS. IF WE GO DIRECTLY TO THE METER THAT, SOMEBODY ISN'T THERE AND THAT LITTLE SQUARE. YOU STILL HAVE IMPERVIOUS AREA, SO MY THOUGHT, THE OWNER WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT CHARGE AND HE OR SHE WOULD DELEGATE HOW THE CHARGE IS ALLOCATED TO THE RENTALS. THAT SOUND FAIR? >> SOUND FAIR, JUST CURIOUS HOW YOU ACCOMPLISH THAT. DETAIL-WE HAVE GONE THROUGH EACH PARCEL AND IDENTIFIED-WE CAME UP-I THINK THERE WAS 30-40, 40 DIFFERENT PARCELS THAT DIDN'T HAVE A METER AND COULDN'T IDENTIFY THE OWNER SO WE HAD TO DIG FURTHER SO WE IDENTIFIED THOSE AND WE'LL TEST THOSE BY SENDING OUT A LETTER. WE ARE DOING THIS AND HOPEFULLY THE ADDRESS IS GOOD. WE DON'T GET A RETURN TO SENDER. IF IT IS BAD WE CONTINUE DIGGING OR GO OUT TO THE OWNER SOMEWHERE. >> IT IS UNUSUAL FOR A SAY A LANDLORD OR OWNER OF LARGE COMMERCIAL BUILDING WILL ALLOCATE FOR EXAMPLE, ELECTRICITY COST BASED ON SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE TENANT AND THINGS THAT NATURE. I THINK THIS WILL BE VERY-THIS WON'T BE A NEW THING FOR LANDLORDS IN TERMS OF ALLOCATION AND COST, PARTICULARLY IF THEY HAVE EXPERIENCED MULTITENANT BUILDINGS. I DON'T SEE THIS BEING THAT COMPLICATED. >> ANOTHER EXAMPLE YOU MIGHT HAVE A UNIT WITH FOUR UNITS THAT RENT FOUR APARTMENTS, I WILL NOT CHARGE 4, I CHARGE-HOW THEY CHARGE IT OUT TO THE INDIVIDUAL IS THE OWNER ITSELF UP TO THAT. THEIR RESPONSIBILITY. >> SO, YOU CHARGE THE SEPARATE BILL TO SOMEBODY ELSE WHO DOESN'T HAVE A METER MAYBE BECAUSE IF IT IS OWNER THE METER CAN BE IN THE BUSINESS NAME. JUST CURIOUS HOW YOU ACCOMPLISH ALL THIS. IT SOUND GOOD, BUT I WANT TO KNOW HOW YOU WILL ACCOMPLISH IT. >> I THINK THE FIRST TRIAL WILL BE 95 PERCENT CORRECT AND HOPEFULLY GO TO [INAUDIBLE] NEVER SAY HUNDRED PERCENT. BUT IT IS TRIAL AND ERROR, YES, SIR. I THINK WE ARE IN A GOOD SPOT NOW [INAUDIBLE] IS GOOD RIGHT NOW. THERE IS A [INAUDIBLE] STILL HAVE TO SEARCH. HOPEFULLY THOSE CLEAN UP. LIKE I SAID EARLIER IN THE PRESENTATION, THIS WILL TAKE WORK, IT ISN'T EXACTLY HUNDRED PERCENT, SO I REALLY ENCOURAGE CITIZENS TO COME IN AND TALK BECAUSE THIS IS A NEW PROGRAM. >> QUESTION. COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES WITH A DETENTION BOND R POND ON THE PROPERTY HOW DOES IT EIFICATE THEIR RATE? >> GOOD QUESTION. OF COURSE, GOOD QUESTION. I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO SAY SOMETHING. THIS IS DETENTION AND-TWO DIFFERENT TYPE. >> SURE. >> OKAY. RETENTION POND, IF YOU CAN PROVE TO THE CITY THAT FROM ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE THAT [00:45:03] ZERO DRAINAGE COME OUT THAT POND AND PREPARED TO STANDARDS, HAVE A LINE AND DONT HAVE SPILLWAY, THEN YOU GET ENGINEERED TO CERTIFY THERE IS NO WATER THEY WON'T BE CHARGED. DETENTION POND IS JUST A PIT. EVENTUALLY THAT WILL DISSIPATE. TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. CAN THEY COME IN IF THEY HAVE IT? WE ARE HAPPY TO SIT DOWN AND LOOK AT IT AND GIVE DIRECTION HOW WE HANDLE THAT. AND BY THE WAY, IT IS ALSO ON THE Q & A, THERE IS A COMMENT ABOUT THAT TOO. >> THIS IS SOMETHING YOU POINT OUT IN THE PRESENTATION, THIS IS NOT A NEW CONCEPT FOR A CITY. OBVIOUSLY IT CAN BE DONE. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> WE WILL-WE MAKE TAKE ADJUSTMENTS IF IT'S IS APPROVED AND MOVED FORWARD, BUT THE IMPLEMENTATION ISN'T BEYOND OUR GRASP. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT? ALRIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION. I WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING WITH RESPECT TO ITEM C2. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS MATTER? IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME. SEEING NO ONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING WITH RESPECT TO ITEM C2 AND ENTERTAIN MOTION WITH RESPECT TO THIS ITEM. >> THERE IS NO VOTE. >> I WILL NOT DO THAT. I WILL JUST MOVE ON. WE HAD THE HEARING. THANK YOU. [D. Consent Agenda:] ALRIGHT. WITH THAT THEN, I WILL JUMP TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> D1 IS ADOPTION OF MINUTES REGULAR MEETING HELD JANUARY 20, 2026. 2. 3. 4. E. ADOPTION OF MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING HELD ON JANUARY 20,2026. APRIL HILBRICH, CITY SECRETARY CITY COUNCIL - JAN 20 2026 - MINUTES - PDF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 9 OF THE CITY OF VICTORIA CODE OF ORDINANCES TO ADOPT THE 2024 INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODE, WITH AMENDMENTS. SECOND AND THIRD READING. JULIE FULGHAM, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AGENDA ITEM MEMO - AIM-26-012 - PDF APPROVE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY (TCEQ) GRANT FOR AIR QUALITY INVENTORYING EMISSIONS AND POLLUTION LEVEL MODELING, IN THE AMOUNT OF $281,250.00. CHRISTY YOUKER, DIRECTOR OF ENVIRONMENT SERVICES AGENDA ITEM MEMO - AIM-26-007 - PDF AUTHORIZE APPLICATIONS TO PUBLIC SAFETY PROGRAMS OFFERED BY THE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR OF TEXAS INCLUDING FY2027 OPERATION LONE STAR, THE FY2027 JUVENILE JUSTICE AND YOUTH DIVERSION PROGRAM, THE PY2027 BODY-WORN CAMERA PROGRAM, AND THE FY2027 RIFLE-RESISTANT BODY ARMOR PROGRAM. KATY CONNALLY, GRANT ADMINISTRATOR . >> THANK YOU MRS. HILLBERT. MOTION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? >> MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA. >> SECTD. SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR AYE. ANY OPPOSED? CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVED. [1. An ordinance amending Chapter 4, Article I and Article III, of the Cit...] ACTION ITEM SAID. S. E1. >> E1 IS ORDINANCE AMENDED CHAPTER 4 ARTICLE 1 AND ARTICLE 3 OF THE CITY VICTORIA CODE OF ORDINANCES AND ADDING SECTION 4-37 FEEDING ANIMALS PROHBTED. THIS ITEM IS ON SECOND READING. >> GOOD EVENING MRS. LACEY. >> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL. HERE ON SECOND READING. I DID NOT BRING A PRESENTATION AS I PRESENTED THIS LAST TIME. YOU ASKED ME TO MAKE A FEW CLARIFICATIONS TO THE ORDINANCES WRITTEN WHICH I DID AND YOU HAVE A COPY IN FRONT OF YOU. TO POINT OUT WHAT I DID CLARIFY IN THE FIRST PARAGRAPH A, INSTEAD OF INCLUDING I CHANGED THE WORD TO ON BEFORE YOU GO TO THE SECTION A 1. I THINK THAT CLARIFIES IT IS UNLAWFUL TO FEED THE ANIMALS AND PUT FOOD WITH INTENT TO FEED THE ANIMALS. ON PROPERTY NOT OWNED OR LEGALLY OCCUPIED. I ALSO CLARIFY THAT TO BE LEGALLY OCCUPIED. THE PREVIOUS VERSION JUST SAID OCCUPY BUT THERE WAS CONCERN THAT THERE COULD BE SOMEONE SQUATTING ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY THEY DON'T OWN AND NOT ALLOWED TO BE ON AND CREATING THIS, SO LEGALLY OCCUPIED FOR EXAMPLE WOULD BE IF YOU ARE RENTING A HOUSE AND YOU ARE LEGALLY ALLOWED TO BE THERE. AND THEN ON THE LAST OR SECOND PAGE, I ADDED A SECTION C ON THE REQUEST OF COUNCILWOMAN SCOTT, AND THAT INCLUDED AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE THAT THE PERSON WHO IS FEEDING THE ANIMALS ARE ATTEMPTING TO FEED THE ANIMALS IS DOING SO ON THEIR PROPERTY THAT THEY OWN OR THEY LEGALLY OCCUPY, AND I FORESEE POTENTIAL HYPOTHETICAL SIPUATION WHERE SOMEBODY IS ISSUED CITATION FOR DOING WHAT THIS PROHIBITS FOR WHATEVER REASON THEY CAN'T PROVE THAT THEY OWN THE PROPERTY AT THAT MOMENT OR THEY CAN'T PROVE THEY ARE LEGALLY ALLOWED TO BE THERE, BUT THEY CAN COME BACK LATER AND PROVIDE THAT EVIDENCE TO US AS A DEFENSE TO THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE. AND WE WILL BE BACK FOR THIRD READING AT THE NEXT MEETING. >> MRS. LACEY, AM I CORRECT WHEN THE TERM LEGALLY OCCUPIED INCLUDES SOMEONE ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY WITH PERMISSION OF THE [00:50:01] OWNER? >> YES, SIR. >> OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MRS. LACEY? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. >> THEN ARE THERE ANY MOTIONS WITH RESPECT TO ITEM E1? >> YES, I MOVE TO ADOPT ITEM E1. >> SECOND IT. >> ALRIGHT. MOTION AND SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AND E1 HAS PASSED SECOND [2. Award the Bon-Aire & Morningside Subdivision Roadway & Drainag...] READING. WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM E2. >> E2 AWARDING THE BON AIR AND MORNINGSIDE SUBDIVISION ROADWAY DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT TO LESTER CONTRACTOR INC. IN $11.623.921.75. >> GOOD EVENING. >> BEFORE I GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION I WANT TO PROVIDE A LITTLE OF CONTEXT BECAUSE I DO TAKE ISSUE WITH INSENUATION THAT SUGGEST THAT THE CITY ISN'T FOLLOWING THE APPROPRIATE PROCESS AND SO I WANT TO REMIND COUNCIL THAT WE HAVE NOT UTILIZED A LOW BID MECHANISM IN OVER 5 YEARS. FORMER RALEIGH MCCOY SPEARHEADED EFFORT SHORTLY AFTER BECOMING MAYOR MAY 2019 TO CHANGE THAT IN OCTOBER 2019, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER MYSELF TO PURSUE BEST VALUE APPROACH WHICH FOLLOWS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 2269. SUBSEQUENTIALLY THERE WERE CHANGED MADE BY THE STATE LEGISLATURE IN 21 THAT ULTIMATELY BROUGHT BACK A RESOLUTION TO COUNCIL THAT REAFFIRMED THE POSITION IN MARCH OF 2023. SO WE HAVE AGAIN NOT FOLLOWED A LOW BID PROCESS IN OVER 5 YEARS. IN ADDITION, THE INFORMATION THAT IS PROVIDED IN THE BID DOCUMENTS VERY SPECIFICALLY SPELLS OUT HOW WE ARE GOING TO EVALUATE THESE PROJECTS. ANY RESPONDENT ORANYBODY THAT REVIEWS THE BID DOCUMENT AND READ IT WOULD SEE THAT THE WAY THESE PROJECTS ARE EVALUATED IS BASED OFF A COMBINATION OF COST OF WORK, SCHEDULE, PAST PERFORMANCE OF SIMILAR PROJECTS, AVAILABLE RESOURCES, OVERALL QUALIFICATIONS REPUTATION AND PAST RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE CITY, CORPORATE HISHRY AND STABILITY, AND REFERENCES. SO I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT THE PROCESS FOLLOWED FOR THIS IS THE SAME PROCESS WE HAVE FOLLOWED FOR OVER 5 YEARS, WHICH IS NOT LOW BID AND BEST VALUE APPROACH. WITH THAT, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO EMMA. >> NO, I THINK THAT IS VERY APPROPRIATE AND EXPLANATION AND CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT. GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. MRS. TUCKER. >> THIS EVENING PRESENTATION FOR YOU ON THE BON AIR MORNINGSIDE SUBDIVISION ROADWAY AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. SPECIFICALLY I'LL GO THROUGH THE RESULTS OF THE PROPOSAL PROCESS AND PROVIDE RECOMMENDATION FOR AWARD. SO, OUR PROJECT SCOPE INCLUDES STORM SEWER CLEANING AND INSPECTION, MINER STORM SEWER ADDITIONS, CURB AND DRIVEWAY REPLACEMENT AND THEN STREET RECLAMATION AND RECONSTRUCTION. THE MAP ON THE RIGHT SHOWS OUR PROJECT AREA, WHICH IS BOUNDED BY AIRLINE TO THE NORTH, BEN JORDAN TO THE EAST, RED RIVER TO THE SOUTH AND THEN LORANT STREET TO THE WEST. SO, THE CITY RECEIVED PROPOSALS AND OPEN PROPOSALS ON JANUARY 7, 2026. OUR EVALUATION COMMITTEE CONVENED ON JANUARY 9, 2026 WHERE WE REVIEWED THESE PROPOSALS AND THEN DETERMINED THE BEST VALUE FOR THE CITY. THE THREE QUALIFIED PROPOSALS RECEIVED WERE FROM THE FOLLOWING COMPANIES, E CON GROUP LLC, 11 MILLION, 527 THOUSAND, 965 DOLLARS AND 20 CENTS. LESTER CONTRACTING INC. IN AMOUNT OF $11.623.921.75. AND FINALLY, CK NEWBERRY, $12.336.245.00. A 4TH PROPOSAL WAS RECEIVED BY THE CITY AND THAT PROPOSAL WAS DISQUALIFIED DUE TO ERRORS IN THE BIDDING DOCUMENTS. THIS PROPOSAL CAME FROM JE CONSTRUCTION SERVICES LLC AND THE AMOUNT OF THEIR PROPOSAL WAS APPROXIMATELY $11.3 MILLION. AND SPECIFICALLY THE ERRORS IN THEIR BIDDING DOCUMENTS WAS THE FAILURE TO ACKNOWLEDGE ADDENDSM 1 AND 2 AND THEN THE FAILURE TO UTILIZE THE AMENDED PROPOSAL SHEET THAT WAS ISSUED IN [00:55:07] ADDENDUM NUMBER 2. TONIGHT WE ARE RECOMMENDING AWARD TO LESTER CONTRACTING IN APPROXIMATELY $11.6 MILLION. THE CONSTRUCTION TIMEFRAME FOR THIS PROJECT IS 450 DAYS APPROXIMATELY 15 MONTHS AND LOOKING AT START EARLY APRIL THIS YEAR AND COMPLETION OF JULY NEXT YEAR. AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? >> I WOULD LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THE DISQUALIFIED BID. WHAT IS OUR PROCEDURE WHEN WE GET A BID THAT DOES NOT COMPLY? DO WE REACH OUT ON SOMETHING LIKE YOU HAVEN'T ACKNOWLEDGED SOMETHING YOU SHOULD? WHAT IS OUR PROCEDURE THERE? >> NO, MA'AM, WE DO NOT. IF YOU DON'T ACKNOWLEDGE THE ADDENDUM AND USE THE RIGHT FORMS IT IS DISQUALIFICATION. >> AND THE PEOPLE MAKING THE BID GET THOSE RIGHT FORMS BECAUSE OF THE PROCESS THAT WE DO USE AND THE BIDDING IS STANDARD? >> YES, MA'AM. YES, THE CITY UTILIZES A WEBSITE CALLED BID NET WHERE WE POST OUR PROJECTS, AND CONTRACTORS AND VARIOUS INDIVIDUALS CAN GET ON THAT WEBSITE AND ACCESS THOSE DOCUMENTS, AND AS BIDDING PROCESS GOES ALONG, IF AN ADDENDUM IS ISSUED IT IS UPLOADED TO THAT SAME WEBSITE AND THOSE FORMS CAN BE RETRIEVED FROM THE WEBSITE TO THEN BE UTILIZED IN THE SUBMISSION OF THEIR PROPOSAL. >> AM I CORRECT THAT A CONTRACTOR CAN SIGN UP TO RECEIVE NOTIFICATION WHEN AN ADDENDUM IS ISSUES SO AT THAT POINT IT IS UP TO THEM TO CHECK IT? >> YES, MAYOR. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE ARE TWO LEVELS TO THE BID NET WEBSITE. THERE IS A PAID VERSION WHERE YOU RECEIVE THOSE NOTIFICATIONS AND A FREE VERSION. IN BOTH VERSIONS YOU HAVE ACCESS TO ALL THE DOCUMENTS. THE FEE GETS YOU THE NOTIFICATIONS. >> GOT YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION. >> THANK YOU. >> WITH THAT THEN, ARE THERE ANY MOTIONS WITH RESPECT TO ITEM E2? >> MOVE WE ADOPT E2. >> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND. IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO STAFF AND MR. GARZA FOR VERY CLEAR EXPLANATION OF THIS PROCESS. THEY ARE NOT ALWAYS CLEAN AND SMOOTH BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE INVOLVED QUITE FRANKLY. STAFF HAS DONE A EXCELLENT JOB. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WITH THAT, ALL IN FAVOR OF ITEM E2, PLEASE SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AND E2 IS APPROVED. [3. Discuss and Take Possible Action to Approve a Resolution Authorizing t...] MOVING TO E3. >> E3, DISCUSS AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE REDEMPTION OF OUTSTANDING CITY OF VICTORIA TEXAS CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATION SERIES 20 TWEV AND CITY VICTORIA CERTIFICATE OBLIGATION SERIES 2014 AND OUTSTANING GENERAL OBLIGATION REFUNDING BONDS SERIES 2015. >> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THIS ITEM APPROVE THE BOND REEMPTION AS PART OF THE BUDGET AND HAD ADDED TO LAST MONTH VIA BUDGET AMENDMENT. IN THE ORIGINAL BUDGET WE APPROVED $600 THOUSAND TO BE REDEEMED AND FUNDED BY TRANSFER FROM THE CITY STABILIZATION FUND AND LAST MONTH WE APPROVED THE BUDGET AMENDMENT TO ADD $700 THOUSAND FUNDED BY EXCESS CIP FUNDS SO $1.3 MILLION WILL BE USED TO PAY OFF FISCAL 27 MATURITIES GOING TO ALLOW US TO CREATE SOME DEBT CAPACITY FOR FUTURE CI PURKS PROJECTS, CONTINUE THE REDEMPTION PROGRAM AND OR ALLOW FLEXIBILITY SETTING THE I & S RATE. BOND REDEMPTION IS PAYING OFF DEBT EARLY. $1.3 MILLION FOR 27 EQUATES TO 2.34 CENTS ON THE TAX RATE BASED ON THIS YEAR NT A V AND THAT $1.3 MILLION IN DEBTS SERVICE IS EQUAL TO SERVICE ABOUT $17 MILLION IN DEBT WHICH WOULD BE NEW BONDS THAT COULD BE ISSUED FOR CIP PROJECTS. DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> ANY QUESTIONS ON THE REDEMPTION? >> NO, THIS IS GREAT. >> I AGREE. I LOVE-WE START $600 THOUSAND AND BUMPED UP ADDITIONAL $700 THOUSAND SO THESE ARE REALLY GOOD FISCAL MANAGEMENT SO [01:00:03] APPLAUD YOU GUYS FOR FIGURING HOW WE CAN DO THAT. I THINK IT IS VERY PORNTS. PORNTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY MOTIONS WITH RESPECT TO E3 FOR THE BOND REDEMPTION? >> MOTION TO MOVE E3. >> MOTION AND SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? [4. Appeal of the Building Standards Commission's order for demolition of ...] AND E3 IS APPROVED. ALRIGHT. OUR LAST ACTION ITEM THEN IS ITEM E4. >> ITEM E4 IS RESOLUTION HEARING APPEAL OF THERE BUILDING STANDARD COMMISSION ORDER FOR DEMOLITION OF STRUCK DHR AT 905 NORTH BEN JORDAN STREET. >> GOOD EVENING MRS. FULGHAM. >> THIS STRUCTURE FIRST TAKEN TO BUILDING STANDARD COMMISSION IN 2020 AND ORDERED FOR REPAIRS. AS YOU SEE REPAIRS WERE NOT COMPLETED AND SO CODE INITIATED A NEW SUBSTANDARD BUILDING CASE IN FEBRUARY OF 2025. THAT CASE RESULTED IN AGAIN BEING PRESENTED TO THE BUILDING STANDARD COMMISSION JULY 2025 AND ORDERED THE BUILDING TO BE REPAIRED AGAIN. SINCE NO REPAIRS COMPLETED, THE BUILDING STANDARD COMMISSION ONCE AGAIN CONSIDERED THE SAFETY OF THE STRUCTURE AT THE JANUARY 2026 MEETING AND AT THAT MEETING THE COMMISSION DEEMED THE STRUCTURE TO BE UNSAFE AND REPAIRS EXCEED 50 PERCENT OF CURRENT VALUE, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY $38 THOUSAND AND THEREFORE ORDERED IT TO BE DEMOLISHED. SO, AGAIN, PICTURE IS WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS, SO I HAVE SERIES OF PHOTOS TO SHOW YOU WHAT THE PROPERTY CONDITION IS. WE HAVE JULY 2025 PHOTOS AND THEN PICTURES TAKEN IN JANUARY. THERE IS A FEW MINER REPAIRS TO THE ROOF THAT HAVE NOT BEEN PERMITTED. SO, AGAIN THE ROOF REPAIRS WERE NOT PERMITTED. SO, IT IS A CONCRETE BLOCK STRUCTURE ESSENTIALLY AND YOU SEE THE ROOF IS IN REALLY POOR CONDITION, BUT WHAT IS NOT EVIDENCE BY THE PICTURES I JUST SHOWED YOU IS HOW UNLEVEL THE STRUCTURE IS. I HAVE COPIED A FEW SECTIONS OF CODE SPECIFICALLY THE INTERNATIONAL PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE THAT SAYS FOUNDATION SYSTEMS THAT ARE NOT PLUM SHALL BE BUILDING DEEMED DETERMINED UNSAFE AND REPAIRED OR REPLACED AND THEN SPECIFICALLY OUR LOCAL ORDINANCE UDO, CITY CODE SAYS ALL WALLS OTHER VERTICAL STRUCTURES [INAUDIBLE] SUCH EXTENT A LINE PASSING THROUGH GRAVITY [INAUDIBLE] UTILIZED BY THE COMMISSION DETERMINING WHETHER A PROPERTY IS SAFE OR UNSAFE. SO, WHAT IS THAT REALLY MEAN? BASICALLY ANY TIME THE BUILDING ISN'T PLUM, IT SHOULD BE REPAIRED ACCORDING TO IPMC. BUT OUR LOCAL CODE SAYS IT IS REALLY UNSAFE WHEN IT'S A THIRD OUT OF PLUM, SO A 6 INCH BLOCK WALL THAT MEANS IF IT IS 2 INCHES OUT OF PLUM THEN IT WOULD DEFINITELY NOT BE SAFE. AND THAT'S REALLY THE SITUATION WITH THIS BUILDING. YOU CAN SEE THE LEVEL IS NOT FLUSH UP AGAINST THE BUILDING BECAUSE IF YOU PUT THE LEVEL FLUSH AGAINST THE BUILDING IT IS NO LONGER LEVEL. I KNOW THOSE ARE HARD TO READ, BUT YOU CAN SEE HOW MUCH OUT OF PLUM IT IS BY COUPLE INCHES. I HAVE A PICTURE FROM ALL 4 SIDES. THIS IS SHOWING TWO SIDES. WE INVESTIGATED AND IT IS DEFINITELY UNLEVEL. AND SO, BECAUSE THAT LEVEL OF UNLEVELING, STRUCTURAL ENGINEER WOULD NEED TO CERTIFY FOR THE LEVEL FOUNDATION, THE REPAIRS TO THE BUILDING WITH IT BEING VALUED AT $38 THOUSAND THAT WOULD BE OF COURSE THE LEVELING WOULD BE BIG EXPENSE AS WELL AS THE ROOF, SO JUST THE ENVELOPE AND LOOKING AT 20 TO $25 THOUSAND IN REPAIRS AT STRUCTURE VALUED AT $38 THOUSAND WHICH IS WHAT THE BUILDING STANDARD COMMISSION DELIBERATED AND WHAT LEAD TO THE ORDER TO DEMOLISH THE BUILDING. FOR HISTORY, I THINK I LOST A SLIDE IN THE TRANSLATION. I SHOULD HAVE PRINTED LARGER. FOR HISTORY, THERE HAVE BEEN 11 CODE ENFORCEMENT CASES ON THIS PROPERTY SINCE 2007. [01:05:01] FIVE HIGH WEEDS AND GRASS, THREE VIOLATIONS OF JUNK TRASH OR DEBRIS AND SUBSTANDARD CASES. BACK IN 2020 THERE WERE TWO ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS THAT THE COMMISSION ORDERED DEMOLISHED IN 2020 WHEN THIS BUILDING WAS ORDERED TO BE REPAIRED. THE PROPERTY WAS PREVIOUSLY OWNED BY THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER FATHER AND HE ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY IN MAY OF 2021 AND HAS BEEN AWARE-MADE AWARE OF ALL THE HISTORY. WITH THAT, THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER IS HERE MR. LEO BELL AND BELIEVE HE WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL, BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. >> CAN I ASK ONE QUESTION BEFORE MR. BELL COMES UP? THE LEVELING ISSUE YOU SHOWED, DID THAT EXIST IN 24 OR SOMETHING THAT'S POPPED UP OVER THE COURSE OF THE 24-25 AND NOW 26- >> IT ALWAYS EXISTED, BUT THE SEVERITY CONTINUES TO GET WORSE. >> OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. >> I ALSO HAVE A QUESTION. IT LOOKS LIKE IN THE REPORT OF THE HISTORY THAT THERE WAS SOME INITIAL VIOLATIONS ISSUED IN 2005, IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES, I LOOKED AT THE WEB ENFORCE. I THINK THAT WAS A TYPO FROM 2007 TO 2005. >> LOOKS LIKE OTHER INCIDENT IN 2021? >> YES, I THE DATES ON THE TINY PRINTOUT I SHOULD HAVE-- >> I CAN SEE IT HERE, I WANT TO ASK IF YOU THINK THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY SUFFICIENT TIME TO CURE ANY DEFECTS OR NOTICES HE RECEIVED? >> YES, THIS CASE ALONE FIRST INITIATED A YEAR AGO, FEBRUARY 2025. SO IT WILL BE A YEAR. >> THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MRS. FULGHAM. MR. BELL, IF YOU LIKE TO COME FORWARD. ADDRESS COUNCIL MOST APPRECIATED. >> YEAH, I ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY FROM MY FATHER WHO PASSED AWAY AND I WAS DOING A LOT OF TRAVELING SO COULDN'T ATTENDED TO QUITE A BIT OF THE THINGS GOING ON. THERE HAS BEEN SUBSTANTIAL REPAIRS DONE TO THE BUILDING. SOME OF THE PICTURES YOU SAW ARE FROM BACK MAYBE MORE THEN 4 YEARS AGO WHEN THEY HAD DEBRIS OR STUFF OUTSIDE THE BUILDING. INCLUDED PICTURES THAT SHOWS YOU THE CONDITION OF THE BUILDINGS AND LET OUT THE COMPLETION OF THE ROOF, WHICH THAT HAD THE HOLE IN IT AND SO- >> MR. BELL, JUST SO I'M CLEAR, WE RECEIVED THIS PACKET. IS THIS PACKET FROM YOU? >> YES, SIR. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. PLEASE GO- >> AND SO THERE ARE SEVERAL TYPOS IN THE NOTIFICATION I GOT TO APPEAR TODAY, WHICH I WAS UNPREPARED BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME AND JUST FOUND OUT YESTERDAY. THE STRUCTURE ISN'T DILAPIDATED, IT ISN'T FALL-ACCORDING TO THE-THEY COULDN'T GIVE ME SPECIFIC CODE REGULATIONS. THIS IS PRINTOUT THEY GAVE ME WHICH ALSO HAS TYPOS IN IT. THE ONE THAT I ACQUIRED ONLINE DIDN'T MATCH WHAT THE CONTENTS OF THE LETTER. THERE ARE NO BUSHES OR TREES AGAINST THE BUILDING CAUSES DECAY. THE BUILDING HAS NOT DETERIORATED AND THERE IS NO-ACCORDING TO THIS LETTER, THERE IS NOTHING THAT CAUSED CONTINUED DETERIORATION AND THE PLUM THING WAS A ADD ON. THAT WASN'T INITIALLY DISCUSSED AND THEN WHEN I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE ISSUES AND I WENT TO THE MEETINGS AND I WENT TO TWO MEETINGS ALREADY, THE LEVELING CAME OUT AFTER, WHICH I DONT KNOW IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH TEXAS AND THE SOIL, IT IS SETTLING, SO IT IS NOT UNSAFE, IT ISN'T UNSOUND OR WIGGLING, IT IS CONCRETE BUILDING. THERE ARE NO CRACKS OR HOLES IN THE FOUNDATION CAUSING DETERIORATION OR LEAKING INSIDE THE BUILDING. THERE IS NO MOLD OR ANYTHING. THERE IS NO ELECTRICITY TO THE BUILDING. IT IS A PRETTY SOUND CONCRETE BUILDING AND I LIKE TO RESTORE IT; BUT I LIKE TO RESTORE IT WITHOUT HAVING TO FIX SOMETHING AND SEE IF IT IS OKAY OR NOT, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO PUT A DOOR IN AND THEN COME BACK AND PUT A BETTER DOOR LATER. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE BUILDING RESTORED IN THE ORIGINAL CONDITION. I GREW UP HERE IN VICTORIA. I WAS HERE FOR THE WHOLE TIME I GREW UP AND WENT TO COLLEGE HERE AT VICTORIA HIGH SCHOOL AND COLLEGE AND LEFT FOR 40 [01:10:02] YEARS AND CAME BACK WHEN MY PARENTS WERE NOT DOING TOO WELL, SO IT HAS BEEN TAKING TIME BUT THERE IS A LOT OF STUFF YOU HAVE TO TEND TO WHEN YOUR PARENTS ARE OLDER AND THINGS WERE NOT KEPT UP TO STANDARD WHILE YOU ARE AWAY. I THINK THE BUILDING IS SOUND AND SAFE AND I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO RESTORE IT. >> MR. BELL, HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY ESTIMATE IN TERMS OF WHAT IT WOULD COST TO DO THE RESTORATION THAT YOU ARE THINKING OF? >> THE ONLY THING THAT HAS NOT BEEN SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED IS WHETHER THAT BUILDING SHOULD BE LEVEL. IT SETTLED AND I AGREE, MY HOUSE SETTLES AND SOMETIMES YOU HAVE PROBLEM WITH THE DOORS, BUT TO THE EXTENT WHERE THE FOUNDATION NEEDS TO BE LEVEL, I HAVEN'T GOTTEN ENGINEER OUT TO SAY DO WE NEED TO FIX THE DOORFRAME BECAUSE THE LEVEL IS UP THE DOORFRAME AND ROOF. IT ISN'T THAT BAD. BUT AS FAR AS COSTING MORE THEN $25 THOUSAND TO LEVEL WHATEVER THE BUILDING OR THE PORTION OF THE BUILDING, I DON'T THINK IT WILL COST THAT MUCH. I'M PRETTY SURE IT WILL NOT COST THAT MUCH. >> SO, BEYOND THE LEVELING WHAT ARE THE COST INVOLVED BECAUSE THERE WERE OTHER ISSUES PAST LEVELING? >> THE BUSHES AND TREES AROUND THE BUILDING WAS A ISSUE. THE DOORS AND WINDOWS, THEY COULD USE CAULKING AND STUFF. I RATHER REPLACE THE WHOLE WINDOW INSTEAD OF AMENDING IT. THAT IS WHERE I'M AT. >> QUESTIONS? >> HOW OLD IS THE FOUNDATION? WHAT IS THE AGE OF THE FOUNDATION? >> GOSH, I'M NOT SURE. WHEN I WAS A KID AND ROAD BIKES AROUND I THINK IT USED TO BE A OLD SHAMROCK GAS STATION I BELIEVE IS WHAT I THINK IT WAS AT THE TIME. I THINK IT WAS A OLD GAS STATION. >> CURRENTLY THERE ARE NO CRACKS IN THE FOUNDATION? >> NO, SIR. >> AT ALL? >> NO. >> WHAT IS YOUR LONG-TERM PLAN? >> I SAY MAYBE WITHIN A YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF I SHOULD HAVE IT COMPLETELY RESTORED TO WHERE IT'S-- >> I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION. I'M CONCERNED A COUPLE TIMES SAID THAT THE ROOF REPAIRS WERE NOT PERMITTED. AND SO, IT MAKES ME NERVOUS ABOUT WHAT YOUR REAL INTENTIONS ARE IN TERMS OF RENOVATING OR REPAIRING THIS. >> THE ROOF WAS NOT PERMITTED, BUT THERE IS A LICENSE CONTRACTOR LICENSED WITH CITY VICTORIA AND FRIEND OF MINE WHO ASSISTED WHEN MY AND MY SON WERE WORKING ON AND IT. I WOULDN'T WANT TO PUT A ROOF UP AND HAVE TO TAKE DOWN AGAIN LATER. WHICH INITIALLY I WANTED TO PUT THE ENTIRE ROOF OVER THE WHOLE THING, BUT HE THE CONTRACTOR SAYS, YOU DONT KNOW WHAT THEY WILL DECIDE, SO DON'T PUT A NEW ROOF. WE'LL FIX THIS PART AND THEN LATER FIX THE WHOLE ROOF. BUT, IT IS SOUND. IT IS NOT-YOU CAN WALK ON IT, JUMP ON IT. >> THE WALLS LOOK CINDER BLOCK? ARE THERE CRACKS? >> NO, SIR. >> THE FOUNDATION IS GOOD WITH THE EXCEPTION OF BEING LEVEL. THERE ARE NO CRACKS IN THE WALLS BECAUSE IT WAS A COMMERCIAL BUILDING. >> SO, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, I'M READING IN THE-I WENT BACK AND THAT IS THE SUMMARY WE GET AHEAD OF THE MEETING. I TOOK A LOOK AND THINK YOU HAVE BEEN PROVIDED WITH THAT AS WELL. SO, MRS. FULGHAM OR SO IN THE AIM-IT INDICATES THE FOUNDATION OF THE STRUCTURE HAS FAILED AND SINKING ON ONE END. CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT WAS BEHIND THE REASON BEHIND THE STATEMENT THE FOUNDATION OF THE STRUCTURE FAILED? BECAUSE I HEAR MR. BELL SAY THERE IS NO CRACKS SO TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE TRUE FACTS ARE? >> THAT'S COMES FROM OUR FORMER BUILDING OFFICIAL RICK MADRID DID INSPECTION AND HE IS HERE AND MIGHT BE ABLE TO ELABORATE. UPON INSPECTION. WITH THE WHOLE BUILDING, I THINK THE BUILDING TILTING UP IS THE DEFINITION OF A FAILING. >> OKAY. >> MR. MADRID CAN YOU HELP US OUT HERE? >> THANK YOU. WE ARE CORRECT, THERE IS NO CRACKS APPARENT IN THE SLAB ITSELF OR CRACKING OF THE BLOCK. THE FOUNDATION ITSELF WAS BUILT, I SUPPOSE SOLID, MAYBE REAL THICK AND IT IS JUST TILTING TO ONE CORNER. SO, YEAH, IT IS LEANING [01:15:03] ABOUT-THE LEVEL SHOWED TWO INCHES IN SOME AREAS SO THAT IS PRETTY CONSISTENT. PUT THE LEVEL ON THE FLOOR THAT WAS THE TOP PICTURE, HAD ABOUT 2 INCHES SHOWING HOW IT TILTED 2 INCHES OUT. SO, YEAH IN ORDER TO REPAIR THAT THEY MIGHT BE GO UNDER IT AND PROVIDE PIERS AND LIFT IT BACK TO LEVEL, BUT THEY MAY NOT. IT MAY CRACK. JUST NOT SURE HOW THAT CAN BE REPAIRED. THAT'S WHY WE NEED A ENGINEER. >> HE MADE THE COMMENT, MAYBE THEY JUST NEED TO FIX THE DOOR FRAME TO ADDRESS IT. COULD YOU COMMENT ON WHETHER OR NOT YOU COULD TAKE A BUILDING THAT HAS A SLOPE LIKE THAT AND JUST COSMETICALLY REPAIR IT? >> NO, THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE. EVERYTHING ELSE WOULD BE OUT OF LEVEL. >> NOT A CONTRACTOR. >> OBVIOUSLY THE IMPRESSION FROM READING IS THERE A SAFETY CONCERN. COULD YOU JUST KIND OF EXPLAIN THAT LITTLE FURTHER IN TERMS OF WHAT THE SAFETY CONCERN IS WITH THIS PARTICULAR STRUCTURE? >> I THINK THE SAFETY CONCERN IS THAT IT'S GRADUALLY GETTING WORSE AND WORSE AND FURTHERING AND EVENTUALLY WILL GET TO UNSAFE CONDITION WHERE THE LOADS WANT TO SHIFT OUT AND SO FORTH. >> OKAY. >> ESPECIALLY WITH THE ROOF HAVING THE WATER LEAKAGE AND WATER IS EVIL TO ALL BUILDINGS SO CONTINUE WITH SUBSTANDARD ROOF THAT WILL CONTINUE TO POTENTIALLY INFILTRATE AND CAUSE ADDITIONAL PROBLEMS. THERE IS ALSO NO SYSTEMS IN THE BUILDING WHAT SO EVER. NO PLUMBING OR ELECTRICAL UP TO CODE. >> I THINK THE UNSAFE INTERPRETATION OR ORDER BY THE BOARD WAS THE ENTIRE BUILDING, ALL INCLUSIVE. : >> TOTALITY OF THE SITUATION? >> YES. >> MR. BELL, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ADD? I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU CONVEYED EVERYTHING TO US YOU LIKE TO. >> YES, I WOULD. I DIDN'T WANT TO GO BACK AND FORTH. >> I GET IT AND APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. >> LIKE I SAID, THERE IS NO CLEAR GUIDELINES ON WHETHER YOU CAN HAVE A BUILDING SETTLING OR NOT AND IT IS DEFINITELY GOING TO SETTLE TO THE POINT WHERE IT WILL CRACK IN THE MIDDLE OR OUTSIDE. IT ISN'T TO THAT EXTENT. I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT WOULD BE ISSUE IF-ALSO ON THIS DOCUMENT HERE THAT THEY GAVE ME, IT SAYS THAT IT NEEDED TO BE 2.6, GREATER THEN 2.6, WHICH I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THIS IS. BUT, THEY MENTIONED IT ISN'T MORE THEN 2 INCHES, SO 2.6 ACCORDING TO WHATEVER THEY WROTE HERE IS OUT OF TOLERANCE WITH THAT. I COULD ADDRESS EACH OF THESE THINGS ON HERE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S PERSONAL OR WHAT IS GOING ON, BUT I SAT THROUGH TWO MEETINGS AND I SAW BUILDINGS THAT WERE DILAPIDATED AND FALLING APART AND NOT SAFE TO WALK IN. A COUPLE OF THEM THEY WERE-THE BUILDINGS WERE DEEMED SAFE AND I AM HAPPY FOR THOSE PEOPLE BUT MY BUILDING IS UNSAFE AND LIKE HOW DID THAT HAPPEN? JUST LITTLE CONCERNED WITH THAT. >> OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU MR. BELL. APPRECIATE IT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ISSUE? >> DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG THE BUILDING HAS BEEN UP? >> I CANT TELL THE EXACT YEAR, BUT IT WAS 1960'S. I WANT TO SAY 68, BUT MY MEMORY IS FROM FOUR HOURS AGO. >> IT IS COMMERCIAL SLAB WITH A LOT OF REBAR AND STILL NO CRACKING AFTER ALL THIS TIME. JUST LEANING. >> IT IS A PRETTY SMALL BUILDING, 368 SQUARE FEET. I DO REMEMBER THAT. >> WHAT'S THE PLAN? >> IF THERE IS OTHER QUESTIONS-THE PLAN FOR-- >> THE TIMELINE FOR MR. BELL. >> FOR MR. BELL. >> MR. BELL, DO WE HAVE A TIMELINE? >> YEAR AND A HALF. >> YEAR AND A HALF IS WAY-- >> I CAN PROBABLY GET IT DONE IN A YEAR, JUST GIVING MYSELF TIME. IT MAY BE QUICKER THEN THAT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I CAN DO IT THE RIGHT WAY INSTEAD OF PATCHING UP STUFF. >> BUT AT THIS POINT YOU DON'T HAVE A ESTIMATE ON COST OR RETAINED A CONTRACTOR TO LOOK AT LEVELING DOING ANY THAT AT THIS POINT? >> THE CONTRACTOR I USE HE CAN LEVEL THE BUILDING FOR ME. [01:20:04] IT ISN'T A PROBLEM. I KNOW HE WILL NOT CHARGE ME $20 THOUSAND TO DO THAT. IF THAT IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. I LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT BUILDING NEEDS TO BE LEVELED BECAUSE IT SETTLED, NOT CRACKED OR COMPROMISED IN THE FOUNDATION OR STRUCTURE, SO IF IT ISN'T COMPROMISED AND NOT DILAPIDATED AND YOU CAN'T-IT ISN'T MOVING, SO TO GO AND DO SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T REALLY NEED TO BE DONE IS WHERE MY CONCERN. THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN. IF IT NEEDS TO BE LEVELED TO KEEP IT FROM DETERIORATING, OKAY, THAT IS GREAT, BUT IF IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE LEVELED AND JUST SETTLED THEN WHY PICK AT THE BUILDING? >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> I WOULD LIKE TO ASK JULIA A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS BECAUSE I NOTICE IN THE HISTORY IT LOOKS LIKE IN 2021 THIS WAS PRESENTED PREVIOUSLY AND THE OWNER WAS GIVEN 90 DAYS TO TAKE SOME KIND OF ACTION. IT LOOKS LIKE NO ACTION WAS TAKEN, AM I READING THAT CORRECTLY? >> YES, THERE IS TWO PREVIOUS ORDERS FOR REPAIRS. >> THE SECOND ORDER WAS JULY 20FWOIV? >> YES, SIR >> SOME KIND OF COURSE OF CONDUCT REMEDIAL ACTION WAS OFFERED TO THE OWNER AND THAT WAS NOT TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF EITHER? >> CORRECT. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. >> I HAVE A QUESTION OR CONCERN. CAN WE GIVE HIM 30 DAYS TO COME UP WITH A TIMELINE SO WE CAN VOTE YEA OR NAY AGAINST THIS? >> I WOULD SAY LET'S GET A MOTION. LET'S GET A MOTION ON THE DAIS WITH THE SECOND AND THEN WE'LL DISCUSS WHAT OPTIONS MAY BE FROM THERE. THAT IS PROBABLY THE BEST WAY TO PROCEED. DO I HAVE A MOTION ON, SORRY, E4? >> IF THAT'S A MOTION TO DENY THE APPEAL I'LL MAKE THE MOTION. >> SO, I GOT A MOTION TO DENY THE APPEAL FROM THE BUILDING STANDARD COMMISSION WHO ORDERED DEMOLITION OF THE STRUCTURE. >> SECOND IT. >> I GOT A MOTION AND SECOND. NOW, DISCUSSION. MR. DE LA GARZA. >> I LIKE TO HEAR GIVE HIM TIME TO COME UP WITH A PLAN AND A COST IN ORDER TO MAKE A GOOD DECISION. I HATE TO SEE A WHOLE BUILDING DEMOLISHED BECAUSE NOT A PLAN. HE WASN'T HERE AT THE TIME. IT WAS HIS PARENT THAT OWNED IT AT THE TIME, BUT NOW HE OWNS IT. I LIKE TO SEE GIVE HIM TIME TO COME UP WITH A PLAN TO REMODEL THE BUILDING AND WHAT HIS COST WILL BE. GIVE ME A YEAR TO DECIDE, THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH. I LIKE AT LEAST GIVE THE OWNER A OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THE PLAN TO US AND SAY HEY, THIS IS THE PLAN, THIS IS TIMELINE AND THE COST AND WE CAN MAKE A DECISION THERE. NOT SURE WE ARE MAKING A GOOD DECISION. >> I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE-IT BEING OUT OF PLUM AND THE OWNER SAYS IF IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE FIXED, WELL I WOULD WANT A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER TO TELL US THAT IT DIDN'T NEED TO BE FIXED BECAUSE I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT WE SEE AND THEY ALWAYS MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE 2 BY 4S ARE ABSOLUTELY STRAIGHT UP AND DOWN AND IT HAS TO DO I'M NOT A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER, BUT HAS TO DO WITH SUPPORTING THE WEIGHT AND SO JUST TO SAY THERE ARE NO CRACKS, SO IT IS FINE MAKES ME NERVOUS ABOUT IT. I'M NOT SURE THAT REALLY THE DIRECTION THE OWNER IS WANTING TO GO BUT IT IS SOMETHING I WOULD WANT TO REQUIRE IF WE WERE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE GIVE EXTENSION. >> CLARIFY SOMETHING, THE LAST TIME THIS WAS PRESENTED TO US I DON'T REMEMBER IT THE DOORS BEING OUT OF PLUM LIKE THEY ARE NOW. OR DID I MISS THAT PART? >> NOT SURE IT WAS PRESENTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL. IT WAS TO THE BUILDING STANDARD COMMISSION THAT IT WENT- >> WE HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE. >> HAVE WE? >> YES, WE HAVE. AND HE WAS GIVEN TIME TO FIX IT, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER IT-MY CONCERN IS, IT NEEDS TO BE LEVEL. HE CAN THINK IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE LEVEL BUT IT NEEDS TO BE LEVEL. THE PROBLEM IS, IF IT IS LEVEL IT COULD CAUSE A LOT OF STRUCTURAL DAMAGE WHEN LEVELED. [01:25:05] HE IS GAMBLING WITH IT AND HE CAN LOSE A LOT OF MONEY BECAUSE HE COULD LEVEL IT AND IT IS BEYOND REPAIR. IT WOULD COST SO MUCH TO REPAIR IT WOULD BE CHEAPER TO TEAR IT DOWN. I UNDERSTAND YOU WANT TO FIX THE BUILDING AND I WISH YOU COULD, BUT IT'S-WHEN IT IS LEANING THAT FAR IT NEEDS TO BE LEVEL. THAT IS THE ONLY WAY YOU FIX THE BUILDING AND YOU TAKE THE CHANCE OF CAUSING MORE DAMAGE. >> I THOUGHT HE MENTIONED HE WAS GOING TO GET IT LEVELED? >> BEG YOUR PARDON? >> I THOUGHT HE MENTIONED HE WAS GOING TO GET IT LEVELED. >> HE ACTED LIKE HE WANTED TO FIEND OUT IF IT NEEDED TO BE LEVEL BUT IF IT NEEDS TO BE LEVELED AND GETS LEVELED AND IT IS BEYOND REPAIR, THEN IS HE GOING TO TEAR IT TOWN OR DO WE HAVE TO TEAR IT DOWN? >> IF THE IT IS MORE THEN 2.6 INCHES OUT OF PLUM AND THAT REQUIRES IT TO BE LEVEL THEN FINE, LEVEL IT. BUT IF THAT'S NOT A CORRECT NUMBER, THEN WE SHOULD FIND OUT WHAT IS THE CORRECT NUMBER SO THAT THE STRUCTURE IS SOUND. THIS NUMBER IS CONTRADICTORY. >> AS I MENTIONED, THAT IS JUST A THIRD OF A 8 AND DON'T KNOW THE THICKNESS OF THE BUILDING. WHEN I GAVE THE NUMBER IT IS JUST A EXAMPLE. IT HAS TO BE A THIRD. THAT IS JUST UNSAFE. THE IPMC DOES REQUIRE ANY OUT OF PLUM- >> WHAT TWO NUMBERS ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE CITY CODE AND HIS THE ORIGINAL MEASUREMENT? >> YES. SO, I GAVE MR. BELL A COPY OF THIS AND ARE I DID SIMPLE MATH FOR HIM AND SO THAT'S THE NUMBER HE IS REFERRING TO. THOSE ARE EXAMPLES BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT THICKNESS OF THOSE WALLS. BUT AS YOU CAN SEE ON IPMC, ANY FOUNDATION SYSTEM MOT PLUM EVEN IF FREE FROM OPEN CRACKS AND BREAKS IS DEEMED UNSAFE. THE LOCAL ORDINANCE CLARIFIES SAYING OUTSIDE OF MIDDLE THIRD. IPMC IS MUCH STRICTER AND WE ADOPTED THE IPMC CODE. IT IS MUCH STRICTER AND SAYS IF THERE ARE CRACKS OR NOT, IF NOT PLUM IT DETERMINED UNSAFE AND SHALL BE REPAIRED AND REPLACED TO COMPLY WITH THE INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE. >> DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? >> MORE OR LESS, YES. >> SOUND LIKE WE NEED A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER REPORT. >> YES, TO ISSUE A PERMIT WE STATED WE REQUIRE A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER IN ORDER TO ISSUE PERMIT TO REPAIR. >> [INAUDIBLE] 2 INCHES OUTSIDE THE FACE, WHICH I DON'T BELIEVE THE [INAUDIBLE] >> THEY ARE PROBABLY NOT, BUT- >> THEY ARE CLOSE. >> THAT'S WHEN IT IS DETERMINED UNSAFE. THE WAY IT SITTING TODAY DOES NOT MEET BUILDING CODE. IT ISN'T PLUM, IT ISN'T LEVEL, IT DOESN'T MEET CODE AND SO IT'S VERY MUCH ON ITS WAY TO BECOMING UNSAFE. ONCE IT HITS THAT LIMIT IT IS UNSAFE AND NO QUESTION ABOUT IT, BUT IT IS ON ITS WAY TO BE UNSAFE. IT ISN'T ALLOWED TO BE UNLEVEL. >> CAN YOU SPEAK INTO THE MIC. >> IF WE ALLOW IT TO BE REPAIRED, IT WILL BE OCCUPIED, WHICH RIGHT NOW IT JUST FALLS DOWN. >> CONTINUE. BECAUSE I COULDN'T HEAR YOU. >> I APOLOGIZE ARE. I WAS DONE, BUT THAT RATIO THERE THAT WERE GIVEN IS JUST DETERMINES WHEN IT IS CONSIDERED UNSAFE. AT THAT POINT IT IS UNSAFE. NOW IT JUST ON ITS WAY TO BE UNSAFE SO IT ISN'T LIKE HE SAYS NOT MEETING THE RATIO YET, BUT IT DOESN'T MEET CODE. IT ISN'T LEVEL, IT ISN'T PLUM, IT DOESN'T MEET CODE AND WE DON'T BUILD STRUCTURES THAT WAY. >> THAT'S WHERE THERE IS SOME LEEWAY WITH OUR BUILDING STANDARD COMMISSION BECAUSE IF YOU READ THE IPMC, IT IS CLEARLY UNSAFE. YOU READ WHAT OUR BUILDING STANDARD COMMISSION SHOULD BE DETERMINING OFF OF, THAT'S WHERE THEY GET INTO THE MIDDLE THIRD OF THE BASE. THAT'S ALL THOSE FACTOR IS WHAT THE BUILDING STANDARD COMMISSION TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY FACTOR IN THE VALUE IF A PROPERTY IS OVER 50 PERCENT VALUE AUTOMATIC DEMOLITION IF DETERMINED UNSAFE AND YOU HAVE BUILDING STANDARD COMMISSION SO [01:30:02] THAT IS HOW THEY CAME TO THEIR ORDER THEY ISSUED OF THE BEING UNSAFE BUILDING WITH AUTOMATIC DEMOLITION. >> SO, JUST TO BE CLEAR WE TALKED ABOUT THE LEVELING PART OF THIS, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, FROM WHAT I SEE, THAT'S NOT THE ONLY ISSUE WITH THE BUILDING THAT WOULD CREATE A SAFETY ISSUE, CORRECT? >> THE ROOF STRUCTURE IS FAILING IN CERTAIN SECTIONS. THERE IS AGAIN, NO PLUMBING OR ELECTRICAL SYSTEM OR HVAC SYSTEM, SO YOU ADD THAT INTO TOTAL TOTALITY AND THAT'S WHY THE BOARD MADE THE ORDER THAT IT WAS UNSAFE AND ORDERED FOR DEMOLITION. >> ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE IS A LOT GOING ON HERE OBVIOUSLY THAT AT LEAST IN MY MIND THAT I'M LOOKING AT. IT INCLUDES THIS IS ONGOING PROCESS FOR SEVERAL YEARS. THERE IS NOTIFICATIONS, THERE IS PROMISES OF REPAIR THAT HAVEN'T HAPPENED. MR. BELL, EXPLAIN CIRCUMSTANCES BEHIND THAT. I HOPED THAT THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT AS DR. YOUNG POINTED OUT, WE COULD GET SOME MORE STRUCTURAL ENGINEER TYPE INFORMATION OR PROFESSIONAL INFORMATION. CERTAINLY I'M NOT IN A POSITION TO BE A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER TO DO THAT, HOWEVER, THE BUILDING STANDARD COMMISSION WE PUT PEOPLE ON THERE WHO ARE IN THIS TRADE AND THIS IS WHAT THEY DO. FROM THAT STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, I'M TORN WITH WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE OR PERSONALLY, TORN WITH A PATH FORWARD, BUT I THINK SAFETY HAS TO COME IN AND THE FACT WE ARE BACK AGAIN AFTER THREE YEARS CONCERNS ME. I'M NOT SURE THAT SAFETY ISSUE WILL GO AWAY IN A YEAR WHILE WE ARE WAITING ON SOMETHING ELSE TO HAPPEN. EVEN IF IT IS LEVELED I THINK MR. LOFFGREN IS CORRECT WE MAY SEE OTHER ISSUES SO THAT IS MY DISCUSSION AND COMMENT. >> I LIKE TO ADD AS WELL, BECAUSE WHAT I LOOK IS WAS THE LAND OWNER OR THE OWNER GIVEN A CHANCE TO ADDRESS THE SITUATION AND I'M SEEING A COUPLE SITUATIONS WHERE HE WAS GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY, PARTICULARLY IN 2025. IT LOOKS LIKE HE WAS GIVEN 180 DAYS TO REPAIR THIS PROPERTY AND IT WASN'T DONE, SO I'M WITH ALL DUE RESPECT NOT IN FAVOR OF GRANTING ANOTHER MONTH OR ANOTHER 6 MONTHS OR ANOTHER YEAR. >> SO, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY. SO, GIVEN THAT THEN, THE MOTION THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US IS SECONDED IS TO DENY THE APPEAL AND UPHOLD THE BUILDING STANDARD CONDITION ORDER FOR DEMOLITION. SO, I WILL CALL THE VOTE ON THAT MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? >> AYE. >> ALRIGHT. THEN ITEM E4, THE APPEAL IS DENIED. ALRIGHT. I BELIEVE THAT IS THE LAST OF [H. Executive Sessions:] OUR ACTION ITEMS FOR THE EVENING. WE WILL HAVE A EXECUTIVE SESSION AND SO, IT IS 635. WE'LL TAKE A 10 MINUTE BREAK AND RECONVENE BACK IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. >> THE CITY COUNCIL RECESS FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION THIRD DAY FEBRUARY, 2026. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.