[A. CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:12] WELCOME TO OUR CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR TUESDAY, OCTOBER 21ST, 2025. WILL YOU PLEASE CALL ROLE? >> YES, SIR. >> IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE RISE AND JOIN ME FOR THE PLEDGES, FOLLOWED BY A MOMENT OF SILENCE. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> "HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE." >> [1. Announcements/Reminders:] ALL RIGHT. AGAIN, WELCOME, EVERYONE. GREAT TO SEE YOU HERE. WE WILL DIVE INTO OUR AGENDA AND START WITH ANNOUNCEMENTS, AND REMINDERS. MR. GARZA, GOOD EVENING. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I DO HAVE A FEW ANNOUNCEMENTS. ON BEHALF OF THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT WE WANT TO REMIND THE APPLICATION DEADLINE FOR APPLICATION CITIZENS -- APPLY AT VICTORIATX.GOV/ CITIZENS ACADEMY. THURSDAYS, JANUARY 29TH THROUGH MARCH 5TH , 6:00-9:00 P.M.. IN ADDITION THE JOINT ELECTION INCLUDES TWO FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, PROPOSITION EIGHT WHICH WOULD FIRE DEPARTMENT AND PROPOSITION B WHICH WOULD GIVE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT COLLECTIVE BARGAINING POWER. THE CITY HAS PUT TOGETHER A LANDING PAGE WITH FAQ'S AND MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THESE PROPOSITIONS INCLUDING A LINK TO THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS SHARED. VICTORIATX.GOV\VFAELECTI ONS. ON BEHALF OF ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES, ALONG WITH KEEP THE-- VICTORIA BEAUTIFUL WE INVITE YOU SATURDAY 19TH LOCATED AT DEPOT STREET. WE WILL MOVE ITEMS TO THE CURB FOR PICKUP SUCH AS TREE LIMBS, ALL TIRES, FURNITURE AND MATTRESSES. THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE WILL BE INSTALLING SMOKE KEEPVICTORIABEAUTIFUL.DETECTORS FOR RESIDENTS WHO REQUEST THEM. VOLUNTEERS AND RESIDENTS ARE INVITED TO STAY FOR HOTDOG COOKOUT, MUSIC AND GAMES. VOLUNTEERS CAN REGISTER AT -- THE EVENT WILL FEATURE A TRUNK OR TREAT BOOTHS, DJS, CRAFTS AND ACTIVITIES FOR ALL AGES. AND [2. Public & Employee Recognitions:] THOSE ARE ALL THE ANNOUNCEMENTS FOR THIS EVENING. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE WILL THEN MOVE TO PUBLIC AND EMPLOYEE RECOGNITIONS. I BELIEVE WE DO HAVE ONE PROCLAMATION TONIGHT FOR THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY'S WEEK. WILL YOU PLEASE HELP ME OUT THERE? >> YES SIR WHEREAS FRIENDS OF THE VICTORIA PUBLIC LIBRARY RAISE FUNDS THAT ENABLE OUR LIBRARY TO PROGRAMMING MUCH-NEEDED EQUIPMENT, SUPPORT FOR CHILDREN SUMMER READING, EARLY CHILDHOOD LITERACY, AND SPECIAL EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, AND WHEREAS MEMBERS OF THE FRIENDS UNDERSTAND THE CRITICAL IMPORTANCE OF WELL FUNDED LIBRARIES AND ADVOCATE TO ENSURE OUR LIBRARY GETS THE RESOURCES IT NEEDS TO PROVIDE A WIDE VARIETY OF SERVICES TO ALL AGES INCLUDING ACCESS TO PRINT AND ELECTRONIC MATERIALS, AS WELL AS PROVIDING PROGRAMS AND SERVICES THAT ALLOW FOR AND ENCOURAGE GROWTH, DEVELOPMENT, AND FELLOWSHIP IN THE COMMUNITY, AND WHEREAS THE FRIENDS GIVE OF THEIR TIME AND COMMITMENT TO THE LIBRARY SETS AN EXAMPLE FOR ALL LEADS TO POSITIVE CIVIC ENGAGEMENT AND THE BETTERMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY NOW THEREFORE DO I, DUANE CROCKER, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF THE DORIA, TO DECLARE -- FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY AND THANK THEM FOR ALL THEY DO TO MAKE VICTORIA A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE. >> [00:05:03] >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A YEARLY UPDATE ON EVERYTHING THAT THE FRIENDS HAVE DONE THIS YEAR. WE HAVE GIVEN ALMOST $40,000 TO THE LIBRARY. A HUGE AMOUNT OF THE, $26,000, PAYS FOR SUMMER PROGRAMMING AND OTHER SPECIAL EVENTS THAT THE LIBRARY HOSTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. WE ALSO DONATED $11,000 FOR A SHELF IN THE CHILDREN'S DEPARTMENT, SO THAT IT WOULD MATCH THE OTHER FURNITURE THAT'S ALREADY THERE. SO, WE ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. IN $1600 GOES TO FUND THE 1000 BOOKS BEFORE KINDERGARTEN, THAT'S A PROGRAM WHERE PARENTS READ TO THEIR CHILDREN, AND INSTILLED A LIFELONG LOVE FOR READING , AND PERIODICALLY ON THEIR JOURNEY TO THAT 1000 BOOKS , THEY WILL TURN IN THEIR PROGRESS TO THE LIBRARY, AND THEY GET LITTLE AWARDS AND PRIZES. THEY WILL RECEIVE A T-SHIRT AT THE END OF THEIR JOURNEY SAYING I AM 1000 BOOKS SMARTER. THE OTHER EVENT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT WAS THE FUNDRAISER THAT WE HAD LAST MONTH. IT WAS ATTENDED BY A LOT OF PEOPLE. WE HAD A GOOD TIME . IT WAS GOOD FOOD, GOOD MUSIC, INTERACTIVE, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HOSTING SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT IN THE FUTURE. SO, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT. WE APPRECIATE THE PROCLAMATION. THANK YOU. >> THANKS FOR ALL YOU DO FOR OUR LIBRARY. ALL RIGHT. MR. GARZA, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER EMPLOYEE IN PUBLIC RECOGNITIONS? >> I HAVE A FEW STAFF ANNOUNCEMENTS AND RECOGNITIONS. I WANT TO START BY PUBLICLY WELCOMING A FEW NEW TEAM MEMBERS TO OUR LEADERSHIP TEAM. SOME OF YOU GOT A CHANCE TO MEET THEM BEFORE THE MEETING. I WANT TO START WITH ED LAKE , VICTORIA NATIVE. SO, HE'S COME HOME. HE HAS BEEN -- GOLF COURSE INCLUDING TEA TIMES, BOOKING AND HOSTING TOURNAMENTS, FINANCIAL REPORTS, CLASS A PROFESSIONAL GOLF ASSOCIATION MEMBER WITH YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN TOURNAMENT MANAGEMENT, MEMBER RELATIONS, HAS WORKED IN MULTIPLE GOLF COURSES, INCLUDING -- COMMUNITY NOW WITH OUR VERY OWN GOLF COURSE, SO WE ARE EXCITED TO HAVE HIM BE PART OF THE TEAM. IN ADDITION, I AM SORRY, WE COULD TAKE IT ONE AT A TIME YEAH-- SHOULD HAVE SET THE GROUND LEADERSHIP ASSIST IN THE MOMENT OF POLICIES AND OVERSEE KEY -- I.T. OPERATIONS. SCHULTE HAS 10 YEARS EXPERIENCE-- WHICH WAS OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS. HER SKILL SET INCLUDES HANDS-ON TECHNICAL-- STRATEGIC PLANNING AND BUDGETING. AND SO WE ARE VERY EXCITED THAT SAM HAS JOINED OUR TEAM.-- BUDGET THAT WILL HELP US WITH SUCCESSION PLANNING IN CASE JAMES WINS THE LOTTERY-- TO THE TEAM. THAT WE HAVE, OF COURSE, GONE THROUGH A LOT OF CHANGES AT THE WATER SURFACE WATER TREATMENT PLANT.-- ALL OPERATIONS, MAINTAIN STAFF ACTIVITIES AND INVOLVE INTAKE DISTRIBUTION WATER SUPPLIES FOR THE CITY. HE HAS OVER 20 YEARS EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH PLANTS RANGING IN SIZE FROM 1 MILLION GALANG -- INDUSTRY STARTING AS AN OPERATOR AND WORKING HIS WAY TO WATER TREATMENT SERVING -- SURFACE TREATMENT FACILITIES. WE WELCOME JOHN AND LOOK FORWARD TO ENHANCING OUR WATER PROCESSING FACILITIES. SO WELCOME, JOHN. >> AND LASTLY A RECOGNITION, NO PICTURE, BECAUSE THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE TOO BUSY WORKING THE STREETS OF VICTORIA, BUT WE WANTED TO RECOGNIZE OFFICERS MAN CS, -- PARKER, THEN IF HE DOES-- THEY RECENTLY PARSED-- PAST PROMOTED TO SENIOR POLICE OFFICER. OFFICERS MUST HAVE THREE YEARS OF SERVICE AND PASS A 100 QUESTION WRITTEN EXAM WITH A SCORE OF 80 OR HIGHER. PLEASE CONGRATULATE THEM FOR REACHING THIS MILESTONE WHEN YOU SEE THEM. THIS IS A GREAT ADVANCEMENT IN THEIR CAREER, AND [3. Items from Council:] WE THANK THEM TO THEIR SERVICE TO VICTORIA AND OUR COMMUNITY. SO, CONGRATULATIONS TO THEM. HAVE FOR THIS EVENING. >> THANK YOU, MR. GARZA. WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEMS FROM COUNCIL. I DO WANT TO MAKE A NOTE THAT-- UNDER ITEMS FROM COUNCIL WE WILL MOVE ITEMS D.3 AND D.4 TO ACTION [00:10:05] ITEMS. THEY WILL COME OFF OF CONSENT AGENDA AND GO TO ACTION [4. Citizen Communication:] ITEMS ON AGENDA E. OKAY. THEN WE WILL JUMP RIGHT INTO CITIZENS COMMUNICATION. I HAVE A FEW CARDS THIS EVENING. PLEASE COME FORWARD AS I CALL YOUR NAME. THE FIRST IS ALEJANDRO GONZALES. WELCOME, SIR. >> HELLO. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. UM-- I AM KIND OF NEW TO THIS, SO , BEAR WITH ME. MY NAME IS ALEJANDRO GONZALES, I LIVE IN-- FAVORITE COLOR IS RED. LAUGHTER ] I GUESS I HAVE GENERAL CONCERNS PRETTY MUCH. I'VE GOT A LOT GOING ON. UM-- A LOT OF GRIEF, A LOT OF GRIEVANCES. I HATE TO BE THE BURDEN OF BAD NEWS, BUT HERE I AM. UM-- I ACTUALLY TRIED TO RUN DOWNTOWN OVER TO YOUR CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, BUT THEY WEREN'T IN. SO, UM-- I GUESS THIS IS JUST THE NEXT BEST STEP. UM-- JUST PRETTY MUCH NEGLIGENCE. UM-- I GET CODE ENFORCEMENT TIME AND TIME AGAIN. I ACTUALLY THINK I AM VERY POPULAR WITH THEM HERE RECENTLY. BUT, UM-- AND THAT'S OKAY. I AM OKAY WITH THAT, BUT IT ALMOST SEEMS AS IF THEIR BLINDERS ARE ON. I SAY THAT, BECAUSE AS SOON AS THEY LEAVE MY PROPERTY, UM-- I GUESS THEY JUST PASS UP THE CITY LOTS THAT WE HAVE IN THE GREENS ADDITION. SO, UM-- I GUESS THERE HAS BEEN A COUPLE OF MY NEIGHBORS HAVE BEEN BOUGHT OUT. AND SO THEY ARE GETTING THEIR HOUSES DEMOLISHED, AND THE CITY -- THE CITIES, I GUESS, ARE BUYING THEM OR TAKING THEM OR WHATEVER. AND THAT'S THAT. THOSE HOUSES AND LOTS ARE OVERGROWN. YOU KNOW, UM-- MY WHOLE THING IS I WOULD JUST LIKE TO KNOW WHO INSPECTS THE JOB AFTERWARDS WHEN THEY ARE DONE? BECAUSE UM-- I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD GET AWAY WITH A LOT OF WHAT THEY ARE GETTING AWAY WITH RIGHT NOW. UM-- ALSO, WE HAVE CODE ENFORCEMENT , I GUESS THEY CONTRACT OUT HELP, BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH EMPLOYEES TO GET THE JOB DONE. BUT, PROFESSIONALISM IS OUT THE DOOR. I SAW TWO GROWN MEN WITH THEIR SHIRTS OFF. I'VE GOT WOMEN AT MY HOUSE, MY DAUGHTERS AND WIFE, AND THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT. AND I DON'T REALLY THINK IT SHOULD BE OUR JOB TO TELL YOU GUYS THIS, YOU KNOW? THAT'S JUST A LOT OF A LOT, AND IT'S ALL OVER THE PLACE. THERE'S A LOT MORE. I JUST DON'T WANT TO BOMBARD YOU GUYS WITH ALL THIS, BUT THAT IS JUST THE GIST OF IT. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. I UM-- I THINK THEY, THESE GUYS KNOW HOW TO GET A HOLD OF ME. I DO HAVE A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS, BUT WE WILL SAVE SOME FOR THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW? I JUST THINK WE SHOULD ALL CARRY ON WITH CELEBRATING AND ALL THAT. I KNOW THERE IS-- TO MOVE, BUT YOU KNOW, GOT TO DO WHAT YOU GOT TO DO, YOU KNOW? SO, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME . BE SEEING YOU. I AM PRETTY SURE. THANK YOU GUYS. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. NEXT, I WILL CALL CALEB SLAVIC . >> GOOD EVENING, WELCOME. >> GOOD EVENING, Y'ALL. I HOPE BUT HE IS HAVING A GREAT DAY TODAY. MY NAME IS CALEB SLAVIC. I AM ONE OF THE STAFF PASTORS AT RIVERSIDE CHURCH. WE HAVE EVER SEEN YEAR-- WELL. I WANTED TO TAKE THIS TIME TO THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT Y'ALL DO, BECAUSE THIS MIGHT BE A SURPRISE. I THINK MAYOR CROCKER KNOWS WE ARE DOING THIS TODAY, BUT FOR OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS THAT WE, FROM THE BOTTOM OF OUR HEART WE SUPPORT Y'ALL, AND SCRIPTURES IS THAT WE ARE TO PRAY FOR OUR LEADERSHIP, TO PRAY FOR THOSE IN ELECTED GOVERNMENT, AND WE KNOW AT TIMES, YOU KNOW THINGS MAY GO OVERLOOKED OF WHAT Y'ALL DO, OR PEOPLE MAY NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT Y'ALL DO. BUT, IT MAKES AN IMPACT IN OUR FAMILIES AND OUR LIVES EACH AND EVERY DAY, SO WE FEEL THE IMPACT OF Y'ALL'S WISDOM AND GUIDANCE. AND REALLY, WE JUST WANTED TO SHARE OUR HEARTS WITH YOU AS WELL. WE WANTED TO SHARE OUR HEART WITH YOU THAT WE ARE PRAYING FOR YOU, FOR YOUR FAMILY, TRAIN FOR WISDOM, PRAYING FOR GUIDANCE. LEADERSHIP ISN'T EASY. BUT, FOR LITTLE MOMENTS LIKE THIS I KNOW IT HELPS FOR Y'ALL TO KNOW THAT FROM THE BOTTOM OF OUR HEART, HERE AT RIVERSIDE CHURCH, WE ARE PRAYING FOR Y'ALL, WE ARE PRAYING FOR YOUR FAMILIES. AND SPEAKING THAT NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, THE PATH IS GOING TO BE CLEAR, AND GOD WILL BE WITH YOU [00:15:03] GUYS-- WE HAVE SOME GIFTS FOR Y'ALL IF WE CAN PRESENT THEM TO Y'ALL. IS THAT OKAY? WE HAVE SOME GIFTS FOR Y'ALL. EACH ONE-- A PLAQUE. AND, THERE IS SOME THINGS FROM THE CHURCH AS WELL. I KNOW THERE ARE SOME COUNCILMEMBERS OR DISTRICT WHO AREN'T HERE, BUT THIS IS FOR Y'ALL. >> AWESOME. >> GOOD EVENING. >> THANK YOU. MY NAME IS PASTOR RIVERA MY PEOPLE CALL ME "PASTOR BOBBY." WE STARTED THE CHURCH ABOUT 18 YEARS AGO. MY FATHER WAS HERE IN THE LATE '70S. MY FATHER CAME FROM HOUSTON. WE MOVED HERE WHEN WE WERE LITTLE. MY FATHER BUILT A BUSINESS RIGHT BESIDE RIVERSIDE PARK, CALLED RIVERSIDE CONVENTION CENTER. HE BUILT A FACILITY THAT WAS ABOUT 26,000 SQUARE FEET. WE HAD EVENTS IN THE COMMUNITY SERVING THE COMMUNITY, NOT LIKE WE SERVE NOW, BUT WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN INVOLVED, INVOLVED IN BUSINESS HERE, IN REAL ESTATE, OR OTHERS, BUSINESSES, DRIVING RANGES AND SO FORTH, AND THE 22 ACRES-- ON THE 22 ACRES THE FIELD NOW SITS ON. WE GAVE -- COMPLETELY OVER TO GOD. NOW, HERE WE ARE ALMOST 30-SOMETHING YEARS LATER OR MORE, SERVING AS PASTORS IN OUR COMMUNITY. THE IRONY OF ALL OF THIS IS THAT WE PASTOR PEOPLE HE USED TO GO TO MY FATHER'S BUSINESS YEARS AGO, AND SO AS A FAMILY, WE KIND OF UNDERSTAND GROWING UP IN THE CITY, SCRAPING OUR KNEES ON THE STREETS OF DOWNTOWN VICTORIA, THIS IS OUR TOWN AS MUCH AS IT IS ANYONE ELSE'S TO TAKE ON THE BURDEN OF PRAYING FOR OUR CITY, PRAYING FOR OUR OFFICIALS, AND AS A CHURCH, BEING ON THE FRONT LINES. WE STARTED 18 YEARS AGO WITH FOUR PEOPLE IN OUR HOME. OUR CHURCH IS BUMPING RIGHT AROUND 2000 PEOPLE, MAKING A DIFFERENCE EVERY SINGLE MONTH, THROUGH PASTOR CJ, WHO JUST SPOKE, WHO LEADS OUR CARES MINISTRY. MY WIFE, DAWN RIVERA, HAS SUCH A HEART FOR THE SPECIAL NEEDS COMMUNITY. WE HOST TIME TO SHINE PROGRAM. OVER 1000 PEOPLE COME TO BE PART OF THIS. SO, OVER THE YEARS, WE HAVE FELT THAT WE HAVE BEGUN TO SEE AN EMERGENCE IN OUR SIMILARITIES AS SERVANTS TO OUR COMMUNITIES. WITH THAT BEING SAID, OUR HEART IS REALLY JUST TO COME AND, AGAIN, REITERATE, WHAT WE JUST HEARD FROM PASTOR CJ, THAT WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR VOLUNTEERING AND YOUR TIME, BEING AWAY FROM YOUR FAMILY, TAKING BURDENS THE WAY YOU DO AND TRYING TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT, AND WORKING ON THE LEGISLATION THAT YOU HAVE TO WORK ON, AND THE RESPONSIBILITIES THAT COME WITH YOUR POSITION. SO, AS PASTORS, WE JUST WANT TO TELL YOU THANK YOU FOR PARTNERING WITH US. WE WOULD LOVE TO PARTNER WITH YOU, AND SIMPLY PRAY EIGHT SPECIAL BLESSING OVER YOU, IF THAT WOULD BE OKAY. YEAH? >> GREAT. WONDERFUL. IF WE COULD DO THAT FOR A MOMENT JUST BOWING OUR HEADS. NOW LORD WE COME HERE TODAY, SIMPLY BECAUSE OF GRATITUDE-- AND SERVANT HOOD . WE JUST PRAY A SPECIAL BLESSING, GOD, OVER ALL THE COUNCIL. WE THANK YOU, GOD, FOR THE LORD, THE WISDOM THEY NEED FOR DECISIONS THEY NEED TO MAKE, AND FOR THE CAMARADERIE IN OUR COMMUNITY, THAT EVERY DECISION, DEAR GOD, WOULD JUST BE FRUITFUL, THAT YOU WOULD BLESS THEIR HOMES AND FAMILIES AS THEY SACRIFICE THE TIME TO BE HERE WITH US, AND THE CITY, AND JESUS' NAME WE PRAY , EVERYBODY, AMEN. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU FOR WHAT Y'ALL DO IN THE COMMUNITY. ALL RIGHT, THAT WAS INSPIRING. GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. DID I BUTCHER YOUR NAME? >> NO, YOU SAID IT CORRECT. SO MY NAME IS BREA HOUSTON. I AM A VICTORIA RESIDENT. I AM JUST HERE TO TELL YOU ABOUT SOMETHING WE HAVE GOING ON. YOUTH LEADERSHIP AND DEVELOP MEANT PROGRAM HAS PARTNERED WITH SEED THREE VICTORY CHURCH HOSTING A COMMUNITY HOMEWORK CLUB. THIS HOMEWORK CLUB IS FOR HIGH SCHOOL AND JUNIOR HIGH STUDENTS. IT IS FREE. WE PROVIDE AFTERSCHOOL SNACKS AS WELL AS DINNER FOR THESE STUDENTS. WE MEET ON-- MONDAYS AND WEDNESDAYS, FROM 3:00-6:00 P.M. AND, WE ARE JUST LOOKING FOR SUPPORT FROM OUR COMMUNITY, AS WELL AS VOLUNTEERS UM-- IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN VOLUNTEERING, OR HELPING OUT IN [00:20:01] ANY WAY, YOU CAN CONTACT JODI JAN C SANDOVAL, 361-655-9019. THIS DOES A LOT FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND YOUNG PEOPLE. I HAVE BROTHERS AND SISTERS WHO ARE IN MIDDLE SCHOOL AS WELL AS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, AND A BROTHER WHO JUST GRADUATED UM-- SO, TAKING THE TIME TO POUR INTO OUR YOUNG PEOPLE, SHOWING THEM THEY MATTER, THEY ARE THE FUTURE OF A VICTORIA, AND IF WE WANT THEM TO STICK AROUND AND CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE THINGS WE HAVE GOING ON NOW WE HAVE TO START POURING INTO THEM AND START SHOWING THEM THAT WE AS A COMMUNITY DO CARE ABOUT THEM, AND THAT THEIR VOICES MATTER, THEIR OPINION MATTERS. THAT STARTS WITH HOMEWORK. SO, AS SMALL AS IT MIGHT SEEM SPENDING A COUPLE HOURS WITH THESE YOUNG PEOPLE, UNDERSTANDING WHERE THEIR HEARTS ARE, AND WHERE THEIR MINDS ARE, AND WHERE THEIR PASSIONS ARE, IT CAN ONLY HELP US TO DEVELOP A BETTER COMMUNITY THAT SERVES THEM AS YOUNG PEOPLE, WHO WILL ONE DAY BE SENIOR CITIZENS WITHIN THIS COMMUNITY, UM-- SO, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU, MISS HOUSTON. I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. I HAVE A COMMENT CARD FOR MCKENZIE BACHA, I BELIEVE-- THAT EVENING. WELCOME. >> HELLO. MY NAME IS MCKENZIE BACHA, I AM REPRESENTING THE VICTORIA PARENTS BOOK COALITION. OUR GROUP CAME ABOUT BECAUSE OF CONTENT OF VALENT -- AVAILABLE IN THE VICTORIA LIBRARY. THANK YOU TO THE LIBRARY FOR WORKING-- LARGE CHUNK OF BOOKS REMOVED FROM THE CHILDREN'S SECTION. THAT IS VERY APPRECIATED. WE TURN TO CITY COUNCIL FOR APPEAL ON THE CHILDREN'S BOOKS THAT WE BELIEVE JUVENILE POLICY UPDATED TO PREVENT RADICAL-- CRITICAL RACE THEORY FROM ENTERING CIRCULATION. THE TEXAS STATE LAW AND VICTORIA CITY CODE REGARDING FOR MATERIALS FOR MINORS BOTH STATE THAT HARMFUL MATERIAL IS WHAT IS PATENTLY OFFENSIVE TO THE PREVAILING STANDARDS IN THE ADULT COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE WITH RESPECT TO WHAT IS SUITABLE FOR MINORS. WE THE PEOPLE OF THE-- VICTORIA HAVE BEEN TELLING THE CITY THESE BOOKS GO AGAINST PREVAILING STANDARDS OF THE COMMUNITY THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP TWICE IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS. THEY DO NOT MATCH OUR VALUES AS MAJORITY CONSERVATIVE AND RELIGIOUS COMMUNITY, AND WE WOULD LIKE OUR REPRESENTATIVES TO MAKE POLICIES THAT REFLECT OUR VALUES. IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE THIS IDEOLOGIES ARE HARMFUL LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT TRANSGENDER IS HIM SPECIFICALLY ACCORDING TO THE NATIONAL LIBRARY OF MEDICINE STUDY CONDUCTED IN 20 2286% OF MINORS WHO IDENTIFY AS TRANSGENDER CONTEMPLATES SUICIDE AND 56% ATTEMPT SUICIDE THIS IS AN OBVIOUSLY HARMFUL IDEOLOGY TO PUT IN THE MINDS OF OUR-- FREE TO FOR VICTIM BECAUSE OF THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN TAKING THESE BOOKS HAS CIRCULATION AND CHANGING THE POLICIES THAT CHILDREN CAN HAVE A LIBRARY SECTION THAT PROMOTES TRUTH AND BEAUTY IS ESSENTIAL . YOU CAN CITE THE FIRST AMENDMENT, BUT WE HAVE TO GO HAVE STANDARDS FOR WHAT WE TELL OUR CHILDREN JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE FREE SPEECH DOESN'T MEAN WE TELL OUR CHILDREN WHATEVER WE WANT. YOU CAN IN YOUR OWN HOME, BUT OUR GOVERNMENT SHOULDN'T. TEXAS RECENTLY ADOPTED THREE LAWS THAT SHOW THE CHANGING OF THE TIDES BILL SB EIGHT SAYS YOU MUST USE-- BIOLOGICAL SEX SB 12 BANS DEI INITIATIVES IN SCHOOLS BILL H D229-- BIOLOGICAL MARKERS VICTORIA NEEDS TO FOLLOW SUIT. LASTLY YOU DO NOT NEED TO BE CHRISTIAN TO BELIEVE THESE IDEALS BUT IF YOU ARE NOW THE BIBLE COMMANDS US TO TELL THE TRUTH AND TO ANSWER TO GOD FIRST. IF ANY OF YOU ON CITY COUNCIL ARE QUESTION I ASK YOU TO OPEN YOUR BIBLE, YOU ALL JUST GOT NEW ONES-- PRAY-- AND TELL ME IF GOD APPROVES OF WHAT YOU ARE ALLOWING. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU MISS BACHA. FINALLY, I HAVE MICHAEL-- >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, AND MAYOR. I AM MICHAEL, 2107 IN JORDAN. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK OFFICER A YOUNG FOR THE JOB HE DID FOR THE CITY OF VICTORIA. ONE OF THE ISSUES I HAVE IS POLICE OFFICERS TELLING PEOPLE RIDING BICYCLES THEY CAN'T RIDE ON THE SIDEWALK. AND IT'S VERY UNSAFE RIDING A BICYCLE IN RIVERO. YOU HAVE PEOPLE ON CARS DRIVING LIKE A FOOT FROM YOU AND HONKING AND SAYING GET OFF THE ROAD YOU LOSER GET ON THE SIDEWALKS. THEN YOU CAN ON THE SIDEWALK AND POLICE OFFICERS AS I GET OFF THE SIDEWALK GET ON THE ROAD YOU KNOW? AND, YOU KNOW IN BIGGER CITIES THEY HAVE BICYCLE WAYS, YOU KNOW? WHERE YOU CAN RIDE YOUR BIKE. AND-- CITY OF VICTORIA THEY DON'T. THEY DON'T HAVE SPECIALIZED BICYCLE PATHS, AND I WISH THE POLICE OFFICERS , YOU KNOW I WORK FOR THE CITY OF VICTORIA, WOULD NOT ENFORCE THE ORDINANCE. BUT, THEY ARE ENFORCING THAT [00:25:03] ORDINANCE. IT IS A $285 FINE YOU IF THEY CATCH YOU AND WANT TO GIVE YOU A TICKET, ANOTHER $285 IF YOU ARE RIDING IN THE DARKNESS. BUT I WISH IT WAS SOMETHING THEY WOULDN'T ENFORCE . IN THE PAST, THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ENFORCING IT, BUT RIGHT NOW THAT'S ONE HOT TOPIC IS CATCH PEOPLE RIDING ON SIDEWALKS, AND GIVE THEM A REPRIMAND -- I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY OFFICERS GIVING TICKETS, BUT IT IS VERY DANGEROUS. AND, I TOLD ONE OFFICER I WOULD RATHER BE -- HE SAID IF YOU RIDE IN THE ROAD, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE IN THE RIGHT. I SAID, IF A CAR HITS YOU AND KILLS YOU YOU'LL BE DEAD RIGHT. I WOULD RATHER BE IN THE WRONG AND BE ALIVE THAN BE DEAD RIGHT, YOU KNOW? AND YOU'VE GOT CARS THAT HATE YOU, BECAUSE YOU ARE ON THE ROAD. YOU'VE GOT OFFICERS THAT DON'T LIKE YOU, BECAUSE YOU ARE ON THE SIDEWALK. AND, I WISH THE CITY ATTORNEY, ADDISON LACEY, COULD REPEAL THAT LAW AND TAKE IT OFF THE BOOKS, BECAUSE IT DON'T MAKE NO SENSE, YOU KNOW? BUT, THEY ARE ENFORCING IT RIGHT NOW . AND I AM NOT GOING TO ARGUE WITH THE OFFICER, BECAUSE HE COULD HAVE GIVEN ME AN $285 TICKET FOR RIDING ON THE SIDEWALK, ANOTHER $285 FOR NOT HAVING LIGHTS. I HAVE A CAR, AND MY MECHANIC, HE HAD HIS BUSINESS BROKEN INTO, AND THEY STOLE HIS TOOLS. THEY HAVE DETECTIVES INVESTIGATING. SO, THAT'S WHY I DON'T HAVE MY CAR. BUT, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THAT OFF THE BOOKS AND CHANGED. THERE WAS SOMEONE WHO GOT HIT AND HURT ON AN E BIKE . SHE'S IN SERIOUS CONDITION. THERE'S A DONATION FOR ANYONE INTERESTED. [D. Consent Agenda:] THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. THAT IS ALL THE CARDS I HAVE FOR THIS EVENING, SO WE WILL MOVE ON IN THE AGENDA. WE HAVE NO ITEMS OF PUBLIC HEARING, SO WE WILL MOVE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEMS 3 AND 4. >> ITEM D.1 -- D.2 WITH TYLER TECHNOLOGIES, INC. IN THE AMOUNT TO NOT EXCEED $224,823. ITEM D.3 IS CONSIDER PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THE LUCAS SUBDIVISION. ITEM D.6 IS AN ITEM FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A REAL ESTATE LISTING AGREEMENT WITH GRYPHON REALTY ADVISERS, LLC. >> THANK YOU. >> MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA AS READ. >> ALL IN FAVOR SAY HI. SEEING NONE OPPOSED. WE WILL JUMP TO [1. Approve an interlocal agreement with the Golden Crescent Regional Plan...] ACTION ITEMS FOR COUNCIL. AND I WILL MOVE THOSE TWO DOWN AS ITEMS 3 AND 4 UNDER THAT. SO LET'S GO WITH ITEM E.1. >> ITEM E.1 IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH GOLDEN CRESCENT REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION TO OPERATE IN VICTORIA PUBLIC TRANSIT IN THE AMOUNT OF $600,000. >> GOOD EVENING. I HAVE A PRESENTATION ABOUT ALL TRANSIT IS DOING RIGHT NOW. IF YOU REMEMBER TRANSIT UM-- VICTORIA TRANSIT WENT THROUGH A ROUTE STUDY TO ESTABLISH NEW ROUTES TO HELP BETTER SERVE CITIZENS OF VICTORIA. YOU KNOW HOW THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT LIKES TO TELL US HOW WE SHOULD OPERATE UM-- ALL THINGS, SO IN ORDER TO IMPLEMENT THIS NEW ROUTE WE HAD TO GO THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE'S REVIEW, WHICH IN LARGELY IS A HUGE AMOUNT OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. AND UM-- SO TO THAT END THE VICTORIA AND PO HAD EXTRA FUNDS, AND WE WERE ABLE TO HELP VICTORIA TRANSIT AND GO OUT AND HELP THEM WITH DEVELOP ENGAGEMENT PLAN TO GET THE NECESSARY PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT INVOLVED, IN ORDER FOR THEM TO IMPLEMENT THE NEW ROUTE STUDY. SO I HAVE A SHORT UPDATE ON THAT PLAN. >> SO, THE PROJECT IS TO GATHER COMMUNITY INPUT NECESSARY TO TURN OVER TO TRANSIT AUTHORITY IN ORDER TO ENABLE VICTORIA TRANSIT TO IMPLEMENT THE NEW ROUTE STUDY. SO, AS A REFRESHER, THIS IS AN RECURRENT ROUTES VERSUS THE PROPOSED ROUTES. WHAT I LEARNED THROUGH THE WHOLE ROUTE STUDY IS THAT THE BEST GOAL OF A GOOD TRANSIT SYSTEM IS TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE ICE CREAM AT THE GROCERY STORE AND MAKE IT HOME BEFORE IT MELTS. AND, SO THESE PROPOSED ROUTES ARE SUPPOSED TO DO THAT. AS PART OF CONSULTANTS ARE REVIEWING PREVIOUS FULL-- PLANS AND [00:30:05] DOCUMENTS TO HELP IDENTIFY WHERE OUR TRANSIT STOPS SHOULD BE LOCATED. UM-- AND THEN OF COURSE ALL THE PUBLIC INPUT THAT IS REQUIRED TO TURN IT IN TO FTA. >> PART OF THE PLAN IS DEVELOPING A PARTICIPATION PLAN. SO THIS WILL BE UTILIZED FOR THIS PLAN. IT'S ALSO SOMETHING VICTORIA TRANSIT CAN ADOPT AND USE IN THE FUTURE FOR ANY TIME THAT THEY ARE REQUIRED TO GO THROUGH THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION PROCESS FOR ANY SORT OF ADDITIONAL PLAN UPDATE OR THINGS THEY ARE REQUIRED TO DO. SO THAT PART HAS BEEN DRAFTED. TEACHING IN COMMUNITY PARTNERS, OF COURSE THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE PLAN, AND THEN FINALLY WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT TO-- DOCUMENT EVERYTHING WE ARE DOING. SO, WE WILL GET A PLAN AT THE END THAT WE CAN TURN OVER TO THEM. SO, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING UM-- A LOT OF OUTREACH UM-- WE HAVE BEEN COLLABORATING WITH EXISTING COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO BE BACK ON EXISTING COMMUNITY EVENTS, DOING POP-UP EVENTS, ALL OF OUR MATERIALS AND EVERYTHING ARE IN SPANISH, AS WELL AS ENGLISH-- WE-- UM-- HAVE DONE A LOT OF UM-- MEETINGS . AND THE UTILITY BILLS THIS MONTH WILL HAVE THE SURVEY THAT IS BEING GATHERED . EXCEPT FOR THE FIRST UNFORTUNATELY THE PAPER THAT OTHER SURVEYS PRINTED ON WERE TOO THICK FOR THE MIX SHEET-- SHEENS. -- TWO, THREE, FOUR, WILL HAVE THE SURVEY AND UTILITY BILLS. AND THAT WILL ALSO ALL GO ON TO THE ONLINE SURVEY. THEN LASTLY OUR PLANNERS HAVE BEEN DOING WRITERS SURVEYS THIS WEEK. SO SOME OF THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, LOCATIONS AND EVENTS-- WHICH WE MUCH COMPLETED ALL OF THESE EXCEPT FOR THE PUBLIC MEETINGS IS ATTENDING SOUTHSIDE COMMUNITY COALITION. GOING TO THE COLLEGE AND THE UNIVERSITY. AND, DOING TABLING EVENTS THERE. THE CROSSROADS UM-- VISITING WITH VICTORIA PUBLIC LIBRARY. AND WE DO HAVE SOME PUBLIC MEETINGS SCHEDULED IN EARLY NOVEMBER, WHICH WILL BE KIND OF THE FINAL PLAN PRESENTATION. WE'VE HAD STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT, SO IF YOU ARE ON THE SALES TAX DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION YOU'VE SEEN THIS, SO APOLOGIES. MINISTRY WORKING WITH UNITED WAY, AND ALSO THE PUBLIC HEALTH DEPARTMENT. AND WE HAVE BEEN SPREADING THE WORD ABOUT OUR PROJECT WEBSITE THAT HAS THE PLAN, AND IT TAKES YOU TO A LINK TO COMPLETE THE SURVEY. SO THE SURVEY CAN BE DONE ON A PAPER SURVEY, OR FOLKS THAT RECEIVE THE PAPER SURVEY HAVE QR CODES, SO SOMEONE CAN TAKE IT ONLINE AS WELL. ONLINE SURVEYS ARE A LITTLE COOLER IN THAT YOU CAN GO TO THE MAP AND LEAVE COMMENTS OF WHERE STOPS SHOULD BE. SO IT'S MORE INTERACTIVE, AND A LITTLE MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR ROBUST UM-- COMMENTS AND ENGAGEMENT. AND I WILL JUST TAKE A MINUTE TO LEAVE THIS ON THE SCREEN FOR ANYONE WATCHING WHO TO TAKE THAT SURVEY. WHICH WILL CLOSE NOVEMBER 14, AND WE WILL DRAFT A PLAN. ONE BIG PART OF THAT DRAFT PLAN APART FROM PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT, IS ASKING PEOPLE WHERE SHOULD STOPS ALONG THE NEW ROUTES BE. SO , THAT WILL BE PART OF THIS PLAN THAT WILL OUTLINE WHERE THE STOPS ARE. BUT, TRANSIT WILL STILL HAVE UM-- A BIG JOB TO DO ONCE THIS PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PART IS DONE. SO, AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS WILL WRAP UP IN JANUARY. AND THEN, THEY WILL HAVE TO THEN OF COURSE TAKE THE PLANE AND TAKE SOME MONTHS TO TRAIN THEIR DRIVERS ON THE NEW ROUTES, AND ALSO ALTER THE STOPS, SO REMOVE STOPS THAT ARE OBSOLETE AND PUT UP THE NEW STOPS. ULTIMATELY THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE UM-- A SERVICE STANDARD PLAN THAT WILL IDENTIFY WHICH STOPS NEED JUST A SIGN, WHICH ONES NEED A BUS STOP, A SHELTER, UM-- ALL OF THESE THINGS. SO , BY THE TIME THEY ARE REALLY STARTING THE NEW ROUTES WE PROBABLY LOOK KING AT SUMMER, LATE SPRING. HOURS WILL CONTINUE TO BE LIMITED BASED OFF OF THE FUNDING -- NEXT YEAR ABOUT WHAT THE FULL COSTS MAY BE IF OPERATING TRANSIT UNDER THE NEW TRANSIT PLAN. WITH THE NEW ROUTES-- SO, RIGHT NOW, WE ARE DEFINITELY STILL IN THAT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT [00:35:01] PHASE. SO OUR CALL TO ACTION IS GET THE WORD OUT THERE, TELL EVERYBODY ABOUT THE SURVEY. TELL THEM TO CHECK THE UTILITY BILLS-- SEPARATE SURVEY IN THE MAIL. BUT, JUST GET THE WORD OUT THERE, SO WE CAN GET AS MUCH ENGAGEMENT AND INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE, SO THAT TRANSIT IS REALLY PREPARED TO MOVE FORWARD. >> OKAY. GREAT. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, VERY MUCH. I KNOW THIS IS A BIG UNDERTAKING, SO YOU AND YOUR TEAM HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB, SO THANK YOU ALL FOR TAKING ON THIS THING. TO PROVE THAT, DON'T WE ? WE ACTUALLY HAD AN AGREEMENT. SO, WE HAVE AGREEMENT WITH GOLDEN CRESCENT REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION, THAT IN YOUR PACKAGE. ANY QUESTIONS? >> I MOVED TO ADOPT. >> SECOND. >> ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU [2. Appoint/Reappoint the Downtown Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Board C...] SO MUCH. WE WILL THEN MOVE ON TO ITEM E.2. >> ITEM E.2 IS ABOUT APPOINTING OR REAPPOINTING THE DOWNTOWN TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE BOARD CHAIR. >> GOOD EVENING, MISS WILLIAMS. >> GOOD EVENING. THIS IS MORE OF A HOUSEKEEPING ITEM THAN ANYTHING, I HAVE NO FORMAL PRESENTATION, BUT I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE. THE TIRZ BOARD IS MADE UP OF SEVEN MEMBERS. WE HAVE JEB LACEY, CHAIR. WE HAVE ASHLEY THOMAS, VICE CHAIR. SEAN STIBICH, WHO REPRESENTS NAVIGATION DISTRICT. WE ARE RECOMMENDING WE REAPPOINT JEB LACEY AS THE CHAIR FOR THE TIRZ BOARD. >> I DID GET A TEXT FROM JEB. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, UNFORTUNATELY I AM TIED UP AND NOT ABLE TO MAKE IT, HOWEVER I WANT COUNCIL TO KNOW I WOULD BE PLEASED TO SERVE AS CHAIR OF THE TIRZ BOARD AS IT SUITS YOU. SO, WE ARE NOT JUST VOLUNTEERING HIM. >> HE HAS DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB. >> HE HAS. ARE THERE ANY MOTIONS WITH RESPECT TO THIS APPOINTMENT OR REAPPOINTMENT? >> MOTION FOR REAPPOINT-- >> SECOND. >> I'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY [3. Consider the recommendation of the Planning Commission in regards to a...] OPPOSED? AND, E.2 IS PAST. WE WILL THEN JUMP BACK UP TO UM-- REMOVED ITEMS FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA. WE WILL TAKE UP ITEM D.3. >> ITEM D.3 IS TO CONSIDER A RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN REGARDS TO A VARIANCE TO 21-138 (A) FOR THE LUCAS SUBDIVISION. >> I NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM THIS ITEM. >> UNDERSTOOD. >>-- AT THE REQUEST OF THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND THE COUNTY, WE UPPED OUR MINIMUM LOT SIZE FROM AN ACRE TO AN ACRE AND A HALF, GETTING SEWER AND SEPTIC TANKS ON ONE LOT HAD PROVEN TO BE A LITTLE PROBLEMATIC IN A LOT OF CASES. UM-- IN THIS CASE THE LOT IS 1.25 ACRES, APPROXIMATELY. SIZE OF THE MINIMUM 1.5. AND THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT DID, OF COURSE, REVIEWED THE LOT. AND, THEY FOUND THERE'S NOT A PROBLEM WITH GETTING BOTH OF THOSE UTILITIES ON THE LOT. AND SO THEY DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL, WHICH LED TO OUR STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. UM-- AS A REMINDER, WE HAVE HISTORICALLY -- FORMER MAYOR HISTORICALLY PUT ITEMS THAT RECEIVED BOTH STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL, AND PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA, SINCE IT HAD GONE THROUGH MANY EYES AT THAT POINT, AND EVERYONE RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. >> OKAY. VERY GOOD. ANY QUESTIONS? DO I HAVE A MOTION WITH RESPECT TO ITEM D.3? >> MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM D.3. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. [4. Consider the recommendation of the Planning Commission in regards to a...] ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY HI. NONE OPPOSED, ONE ABSTENTION. SO D.3 PASSES. D.4? >> DO YOU WANT ME TO CALL-- >> YES. >> ITEM D.4 IS RESOLUTION CONSIDERING RECOMMENDATION OF THE VARIANCE OF SECTION [00:40:10] 21-179(B)(2) AND SECTION 21-190(A)(1) FOR A PROPERTY AT 5101 HOUSTON HIGHWAY TO ALLOW FOR A THIRD DRIVEWAY TO BE PLACED ALONG S. JOHN STOCKBAUER DRIVE. >> BECAUSE OF THE PROPERTY'S UNIQUE TRACK AND THAT MEDIAN ZONE, THERE IS GOING TO BE LIMITED DEVELOPMENT ALONG THAT STRETCH. SO UM-- ADDING A DRIVEWAY THAT WAS BELOW THE SPACING NOT VIA SAFETY HAZARD INSTEAD OF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL UM-- AND THEN OF COURSE STAFF FOLLOWED SUIT OF PUBLIC WORKS RECOMMENDATION, AND THEN PLANNING COMMISSION ADDITIONALLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL FOR THIS REQUEST. >> OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? I KNOW WE HAVE SEEN ALL THESE IN OUR PACKET WITH VARIOUS MATERIALS. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. IF NOT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION WITH RESPECT -- >> I MOVE WE ADOPT. [1. Water Feasibility Study Update. Ken Gill, Retired Public Works Directo...] >> I HAVE GOT A MOTION AND SECOND ON ITEM D.4. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AND D.4 IS APPROVED. ALL RIGHT. SO, THAT WILL TAKE US THEN TO-- I AM JUMPING-- TO OUR CITY MANAGER'S REPORTS. MR. GAZA -- GARZA? >> YOU KNOW HE RETIRED, BUT I STILL SEE HIM ALL THE TIME. >> I KNOW, WE CAN'T GET RID OF THIS GUY. BEFORE HE INTRODUCES OUR CONSULTANT, I WANT TO MAKE A FEW REMARKS AS IT RELATES TO THIS WATER FEASIBILITY STUDY. BECAUSE, I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR AS I CAN, THAT THE CITY OF VICTORIA DOES NOT HAVE A WATER CRISIS. UM-- THERE HAVE BEEN NEWS REPORTS AND CHAPTER ON SOCIAL MEDIA, YOU KNOW, REGARDING WATER CRISES -- WHATEVER-- THERE ARE SEVERAL WATER CRISES GOING ON AROUND THE STATE. EVEN SOME IN OUR REGION SOME CONFUSION, SO I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR, WE DO NOT HAVE A WATER CRISIS, IN VICTORIA. WHAT CAUSED US TO LOOK INTO A WATER FEASIBILITY STUDY WAS JUST US TRYING TO BE PROACTIVE IN TRYING TO IDENTIFY WHERE WE STAND, AND WHAT OUR OPTIONS WOULD BE. YOU WILL HEAR MORE SHORTLY, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE THAT AS CLEAR AS I CAN. KEN? >> MR. GILL, WELCOME. >> I WILL INTRODUCE JASON AND HIS TEAM-- UPDATE ON WATER FEASIBILITY STUDY. >> YOU ARE CHARGING US FOR THAT, KEN? >> YOU HAVE TO READ IT. LAUGHTER ] YES, MY NAME IS JASON MAULDIN OTTO. I AM A SERVANT SERVICE CLIENT LEADER AS I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO OUR PROJECT MANAGER. >> WELCOME. >> HI, THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, FOR AN UPDATE ON OUR PROJECT. I THINK THE LAST TIME WE SPOKE WE WERE GETTING STARTED AND WALKED WITH THE SCOPE OF THE WORK WITH YOU GUYS. IT'S GOOD TO BE WITH YOU, WE ARE ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH. SO I WANTED TO GIVE AN UPDATE. WITH THE PURPOSE OF THE STUDY IT'S JESUS ALLUDED TO THAT A LITTLE . TALKING ABOUT WATER BACKGROUND IN VICTORIA UM-- WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT, AS FAR AS THE NEED FOR WATER UM-- AND INTRODUCE SOME OF THE WATER SUPPLY OPTIONS WE ARE CURRENTLY EVALUATING, AND THEN TALK ABOUT WHERE WE ARE HEADED FOR THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS. >> SO, I JUST WANTED TO WALK THROUGH THE HISTORY OF WATER IN VICTORIA UM-- AND REMIND EVERYONE WHERE WE HAVE BEEN, AND MAYBE WHERE WE ARE HEADED. UM-- HISTORICALLY THE CITY WAS ON GROUNDWATER PRIOR TO 2001 UM-- AND, BECAUSE OF SOME POTENTIAL TASTE AND ODOR ISSUES, AND MAYBE NOT BEING ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH SOME PEAK DEMANDS, IN 2001, THE CITY SWITCHED TO SURFACE WATER. THE IMPLEMENTED SOME OFF-CHANNEL STORAGES. AND THOSE WATER SERVICE RIGHTS ARE LIMITED, SECONDARY WATER RIGHTS, THEY ARE NOT SENIOR WATER RIGHTS. SO, BECAUSE OF THAT, THE CITY KEPT UP THE GROUNDWATER SUPPLIES. THERE IS CURRENTLY EIGHT OPERATIONAL WELLS THAT ARE ACCUSED TYPICALLY FOR EMERGENCY ONLY. UM-- THERE IS A GROUNDWATER EXCHANGE THE CITY HAS DONE IN THE PAST, WHERE THEY UM-- PUMP GROUNDWATER, AND THAT GROUNDWATER IS DISCHARGED INTO THE RIVER, AND THEN ADDITIONAL SURFACE WATER CAN BE PUMPED IN THAT CASE. AND, JUST TO REMIND EVERYONE WHAT OUR PROJECT GOALS ARE, WE ARE LOOKING OUT INTO THE FUTURE, TRYING TO HELP THE CITY [00:45:06] BE PROACTIVE AND PUT UP A WATER SUPPLY STRATEGY TOGETHER, IDENTIFYING WATER DEMANDS, AND FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS, FOR MUNICIPAL, COMMERCIAL, POTENTIAL INDUSTRIAL, AND REALLY PUT A STRATEGY TOGETHER FOR THE CITY THAT THEY CAN IMPLEMENT. UM-- WE ARE LOOKING AT HIGH LEVEL IN THE STUDY. SO IDENTIFYING NEXT STEPS THAT NEED PERMITTING ACTIONS OR CONTRACTING ACTIONS THAT WILL SET THE CITY UP FOR THE FUTURE. UM-- AND REALLY, WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS IMPLEMENT A PATIENT PLAN TOGETHER. WE WANT TO IDENTIFY WHAT THE CITY WANTS TO DO, SHORT TERM, WITH THE CITY WHAT NEEDS TO DO LONG-TERM TO IMPLEMENT THE STRATEGY. AND, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE WITH SCHEDULE, WE ARE A LITTLE OVER HALFWAY ON THE STUDY. SO, THE UPDATE YOU WILL HEAR TODAY IS ON TASK ONE, HOW RELIABLE OTHER SUPPLIES, AND HOW RELIABLE ARE SOME OF THE FUTURE SUPPLIES WE ARE CONSIDERING. AND THEN TASKED TO UM-- THE SUPPLY OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED. WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF TASK THREE. WE ARE EVALUATING THOSE SUPPLY OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED AND SCORING THEM BASED ON SOME CRITERIA, SO, HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS WE WILL BE BACK WITH AN UPDATE ON THE EVALUATION AND SCORING OF OPTIONS, AND KIND OF WHERE WE ARE HEADED WITH THE SUPPLY STRATEGY. >> WILL TURN IT OVER TO JENNY NOW TO TALK ABOUT THE TECHNICAL PART. >> THANK YOU. IT'S GOOD TO BE BACK, COUNCIL. YEAH, I JUST WANT TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE INITIAL PART OF THE STUDY . AS WE LOOK TO FUTURE WATER DEMANDS, THE FIRST STEP WAS TO CONSIDER POPULATION GROWTH FOR THE CITY. THIS GRAPH ON THE BOARD, YOU CAN SEE THE HISTORICAL DEMANDS. THE CITY HAS GONE THROUGH CYCLES WHERE THEY HAVE SEEN MORE DRAMATIC GROWTH, AND ALSO PERIODS WHERE POPULATION HAS BEEN FLAT. THE MOST RECENT PERIOD HAS BEEN IN ONE OF THOSE FLATTER PERIODS. AND AS WE PULLED POPULATION PROJECTIONS FROM SOME OTHER ENTITIES, THERE IS A WIDE RANGE OF WHERE THEY SAW THE CITY GOING. SO, IN BLUE YOU CAN SEE THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD. THEIR POPULATION PROJECTIONS FOR THE CITY FOR THE LAST ROUND OF REGIONAL WATER PLANS, THEY HAVE THE CITY KIND OF GROWING MINIMALLY BUT -- ASSUMPTION BUILT IN THAT THE CITY'S CUSTOMERS WILL BE SIMILAR TO THE MAKEUP TODAY IN TERMS OF KIND OF THE MIX OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS. THE ONE THING THAT CAN REALLY IMPACT THAT FUTURE DEMAND IS LARGE, NEW INDUSTRIAL WATER USERS. SO WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO COORDINATE WITH THE PORT OF VICTORIA , THE VICTORIA ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT [00:50:04] CORPORATION TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE SEEING IN TERMS OF POTENTIAL NEW DEVELOPMENT TO THE CITY. THERE ARE SOME POTENTIAL LARGE WATER USERS TRAN03 THAT MAY COME TO THE AREA. BUT, THEY WOULD LARGELY BE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY SERVICE AREA. SO, WE HAVEN'T MADE ANY EXPLICIT ASSUMPTIONS OF LARGE INDUSTRIAL USERS THAT THE CITY WOULD NEED TO SERVE. BUT, A LOT OF THE INFORMATION HUMMING OUT OF OUR STUDY, IN TERMS OF WHAT SUPPLIES OR RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE AND THEIR POTENTIAL YIELD, COULD ALWAYS BE OF USE TO THE CITY IN THE FUTURE IF SOME OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS COME UP. >> NOW LOOKING ABOUT WHAT EXISTING SUPPLIES THE CITY HAS UM-- THERE IS BASICALLY THREE EXISTING SUPPLY SOURCES. SO THERE IS SURFACE WATER RIGHTS, AND THERE IS BASICALLY SEVEN DIFFERENT RIGHTS WHICH HAVE THEIR OWN ALLOCATIONS AND SPECIFIC CONDITIONS FOR WHEN THEY CAN BE USED. BUT, IF THE WATER IS IN THE RIVER, AND ALL THE CONDITIONS ARE MET, IT TOTALS 24.1 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY. THE CITY ALSO HAS A CONTRACT WITH GBRA THAT ALLOWS 1.1 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY ON A FIVE-YEAR ROLLING AVERAGE. BUT, IF THERE IS A SPECIFIC NEED THE CITY CAN CALL ON FOR NEED . -- STILL HAVE RIGHTS TO 10.6 MILLION GALLONS OF GROUNDWATER. USUALLY ONLY ABOUT 2 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY IS USED OUT OF ONE OF THE GROUNDWATER WELLS. IT'S USED TO AUGMENT THE SUPPLY FROM THE RIVER BEFORE IT GOES THROUGH THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT UM-- BUT, ALL THE WELLS ARE -- THEY PRETTY MUCH MATCH WHERE YOU ARE TODAY IN TERMS OF AVERAGE DEMAND. THE CITY HAS MANAGED THROUGH THESE LOW RIVER FLOWS, BUT YOU CAN START TO SEE THAT THIS IS WHERE HAVING SOME ADDITIONAL SUPPLIES THEY FEEL LIKE ARE RELIABLE UNDER THESE LOW FLOW CONDITIONS COULD BE A BENEFIT TO MAKING IT HAVE CONFIDENCE TO MAKE IT THROUGH THESE LOW-FLOW DROUGHT PERIODS. AS WE -- IN THE FUTURE. SO WITHIN THIS STUDY WE HAVE TARGETED BETWEEN 2 1/2 AND 7 1/2 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY IS WHERE WE REALLY WANT TO ENSURE WHERE WE HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE UM-- IN TERMS OF SUPPLIES THAT THE CITY COULD LOOK TO IN THE FUTURE TO KIND OF HAVE MORE OF THIS WATER THAT YOU FEEL LIKE COULD BE RELIED ON DURING TIMES OF DROUGHT. >> THE OTHER THING I JUST WANTED TO MENTION IS THERE IS AN ELEMENT OF OUR STUDY WHERE WE LOOKED UM-- ABOUT HOW RIVER FLOWS MIGHT BE CHANGING IN THE FUTURE. UM-- AND SO, WE CONSIDER DIFFERENT CLIMATE MODELS IN TERMS OF HOW TEMPERATURE AND RAINFALL PATTERNS MIGHT CHANGE OVER TIME WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT GRAPHS HERE. THE TOP ONE JUST GIVES A FLAVOR OF HISTORICAL STREAM FLOW. SO, THIS IS FLOWS THAT HAVE OCCURRED IN THE RIVER [00:55:01] BACK TO THE 1950S TO PRESENT DAY. AND THE DIFFERENT BARS INDICATE IF THERE IS ANY TIME DURING THOSE YEARS WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE WENT INTO DIFFERENT FLOW RESTRICTIONS , WITH THE DARKER ORANGE BEING MORE RESTRICTIVE LOW-FLOW CONDITIONS, AND THE LIGHTER ORANGE BEING LESS RESTRICTIVE. UM-- BUT, SOME OF THE FUTURE CLIMATE MODELS , WHEN WE LOOK AT THEM AND PROJECT WHAT THE IMPACT COULD BE TO RIVER FLOW THAT'S KIND OF THIS BOTTOM TIMESERIES. SO, THIS ISN'T CURRENT TODAY. THIS IS LOOKING OUT ANOTHER 75, 80 YEARS TOWARDS THE END OF OUR PLANNING HORIZON, BUT YOU CAN SEE IT'S MORE FOR QUINTON-- MORE FREQUENT -- PLANNING TO HAVE ADDITIONAL DROUGHT RELIABLE SUPPLIES IN PLACE WILL BE EVEN MORE BENEFICIAL IN THE FUTURE. THIS IS, AGAIN, JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ABOUT WHAT MIGHT BE EXPECTED DID. AGAIN, THESE ARE TWO OF THE STREAMFLOW TARGETS I MENTIONED THAT THE 300 CFS'S WHEN YOU GET MORE RESTRICTED IN WHAT YOU CAN WITHDRAW, AND THE 100 CFS IS WHEN IT BECOMES EVEN MORE PHYSICALLY DIFFICULT TO WITHDRAW FROM THE RIVER. UM-- AGAIN, THAT 300 CFS STARTS TO OCCUR AS OFTEN AS EVERY OTHER YEAR. TYPICALLY LASTS TWO TO THREE MONTHS BUT CAN LAST EIGHT TO NINE MONTHS. AND THEN THAT EVEN MORE RESTRICT LIVE, 100 CFS. IT DOESN'T HAPPEN AS FREQUENTLY, LOOKING AT ONE ABOUT EVERY 10 YEARS. MAYBE IT'S UNDER THAT CONDITION FOR LIKE JUST A MONTH OR TWO UM-- BUT IT'S STILL SOMETHING YOU WANT TO PLAN FOR SO YOU HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE WHEN IT DOESN'T COVER IT. >> BUT, THAT'S THE OVERVIEW OF THE NEED WE HAVE IDENTIFIED. AGAIN, AS LONG AS THERE IS FLOW IN THE RIVER THERE IS 20 OF WATER. SO, REALLY IT'S JUST THESE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE CITY HAS A PLAN IN PLACE, SO YOU FEEL -- WHY TIMES OF LOW-FLOW STAFF IS THINKING VERY CREATIVELY ON HOW TO NAVIGATE, HOW TO GET THROUGH THOSE PERIODS. SO YOU MAY RECALL AT TIMES STAFF THINKING CREATIVELY OF HOW TO MOVE WATER FROM 10CR -- WHERE WE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO PUMP WATER FROM THE RIVER. THIS ALSO HELPS EXPLAIN AT TIMES WHY STAFF IS VERY PARTICULAR AND NEEDS TO BE VERY STRATEGIC ON WHEN IT DRAWS DOWN WATER FROM CANYON LAKE THROUGH GBRA. IT PUTS STAFF IN A POSITION TO BE STRATEGIC AND MINDFUL. SO, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT POINT MORE CLEAR THAT WE ARE ALREADY EXPERIENCING THE CHALLENGE, IF YOU WILL, TO MEET PEAK NEED IN TIMES OF VERY RESTRICTIVE LOW-FLOW. >> THE NEXT ITEM TO HIGHLIGHT OR SUPPLY OPTIONS WE ARE LOOKING AT. AS KIM MENTIONED WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS ANALYSIS, BUT IT WILL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF FLAVOR OF WHAT'S TO COME. UM-- SUPPLY OPTIONS. UNDER CURRENT EVALUATION A LOT OF THEM ARE AROUND GROUNDWATER. BECAUSE YOU HAVE THOSE RIGHTS, YOU ARE JUST NOT TAKING FULL ADVANTAGE OF THEM. SO, OUR ANALYSIS AND RECOMMENDATIONS WILL BE HOW TO INCREASE USE OF THAT WATER YOU DO HAVE UM-- CONSIDER PERMITTING NEW GROUNDWATER WELLS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS UM-- WE HAVE LOOKED AT YOU KNOW, PURCHASING ADDITIONAL RIGHTS FROM NEIGHBORING LANDOWNERS AND CONVERTING ONE OF YOUR ASR WELLS BACK TO A TRADITIONAL WELL. IN TERMS OF SURFACE WATER, GBRA HAS THEIR WATER SECURE PROJECT GOING AND HAS SENT THE CITY INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE TO JOIN. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE OPTIONS THAT WILL BE IN OUR NEXT. WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT OFF CHANNEL STORAGE , BECAUSE IT IS SOMETHING THE CITY RELIES ON RIGHT NOW DURING THOSE DROUGHT CONDITIONS. DESALINATION IS ALSO SOMETHING BEING CONSIDERED, BOTH PARTNERING WITH THE PORT OF VICTORIA ON SOME OF THEIR PLANS TO BUILD A DESALINATION PLANT, AS WELL AS WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR THE CITY TO HAVE THEIR OWN PLANT. AND A LOT OF COMMUNITIES ARE LOOKING TO WATER REUSE, SO WE WANT TO KEEP THAT IN THE OPTIONS BEING EVALUATED. SOME OF THE ONES THAT WILL BE KIND OF DISCUSSED IN THE REPORT BUT NOT IN AS MUCH DETAIL UM-- IN TERMS OF SURFACE WATER, JUST ACQUIRING MORE RIGHTS UM-- THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS NOT AS MUCH [01:00:05] OF A FOCUS, BECAUSE THERE IS LIMITED AVAILABILITY , AND THE WHOLE REASON THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO OTHER SOURCES IS BECAUSE THE RIGHTS YOU DO HAVE AS AVAILABLE UNDER THOSE DROUGHT CONDITIONS. WE ARE NOT LOOKING AT ASR AS CLOSELY. THERE MIGHT BE SOME DISCUSSION, THE CITY MAY HAVE LOOKED AT EXPONENTIAL, ASR, BUT HAS RUN INTO A SERIES OF CHALLENGES UM-- SOME OF THE WATER REUSE OPTIONS AREN'T AS HIGH ON OUR LIST. JUST TALKING WITH CITY STAFF, DOING LIKE A PURPLE PIPE NETWORK IN TERMS OF PROVIDING A NEW SUPPLY WASN'T REALLY OF INTEREST, SO, WE WILL FOCUS ON WAYS TO DO QUOTABLE REUSE, AND THEN WE ARE LOOKING AT SOME DESALINATION OPTIONS, BUT OTHERS, LIKE GOING ALL THE WAY UM-- OUT TO THE BAY OR PURCHASING FROM FURTHER PLANTS IS SOMETHING KIND OF GETTING SCREENED OUT INITIALLY. AND THEN, AS WE EVALUATE SUPPLY OPTIONS, THESE ARE SOME OF THE DIFFERENT METRICS THAT WILL BE EVALUATED AGAINST RELIABILITY IS GOING TO BE A HIGH ONE. HOW CONFIDENT ARE WE THAT WATER RECOMMENDED IS GOING TO BE THERE DURING THOSE TIMES OF NEED? COST IS ALSO A KEY CONCERN. WE'LL BE LOOKING AT CAPITAL COSTS IN TERMS OF BRINGING IN NEW WATER SUPPLY AS WELL AS ANNUAL MAINTENANCE COSTS. UM-- THEN IMPLEMENTATION IN TERMS OF PERMITTING DIFFICULTY AND COMPLEXITY FOR CITY STAFF TO RUN ANY NEW RECOMMENDATIONS . WATER QUALITY IS A METRIC BEING CONSIDERED. AND THEN, WE HAVE A BIT OF A CATCH ALL. THE CITY DOES HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH PRESSURE IN THE SYSTEM. SO, ANY NEW WATER SUPPLY PROJECTS THAT COULD SOLVE ALREADY KNOWN ISSUES JUST GIVES US EXTRA BENNETT -- BENEFIT TO OPTIONS WE ARE CONSIDERING. BUT, THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE HAD FOR YOU TODAY. AS MENTIONED, WE ARE GOING THROUGH COSTING AND SUPPLYING OPTIONS. WE HIGHLIGHTED EVALUATING THEM AGAINST THOSE METRICS. THAT'S WHAT WE WILL PRESENT OUT NEXT MEETING , FLUSHED OUT DETAILS, AND IT WILL BE DOCUMENTED IN OUR FINAL REPORT. OTHER COMMENTS, KEN? >> COULD YOU ARE BACK TO THE SLIDE, TOO, THAT TALKS ABOUT THE OPTIONS WE SCREENED OUT? >> SURE. >> KEN? >> GO AHEAD. >> OKAY. I WAS JUST GOING TO TALK ABOUT A FEW OF THE THINGS WE DO PROACTIVELY. WHEN THE RIVER GETS BELOW THAT 300, THERE ARE TIMES WHEN WE GET A RAINSTORM, AND IT GETS ABOVE IT, WE ARE PUMPING OUT OF THAT RIVER. I MEAN, WE WATCH IT DAILY, HOURLY, BY THE MINUTE. WE WATCH THAT RIVER. SO, TO SAY THAT MONTH IS LESS THAN 300 ON AVERAGE WE LITERALLY GET 400 HOURS OF WATER, WE TURN THOSE PUMPS ON. SO I WANT TO NOTE THAT'S CRITICAL IN OUR REVIEW. ANOTHER THING THAT WAS INTERESTING IS, IN 2013 AND 2014, WE HIT A STAGE WHERE WE WERE UNDER PRETTY SERIOUS DROUGHT CONDITION, AND WE USED THE WATER EXCHANGE. IN THAT WATER EXCHANGE PROGRAM THAT TCQ ALLOWS WE HAVE TO DO A BIO STUDY. WE DID THAT LAST YEAR, IT'S GOOD FOR THREE YEARS, SO THAT IS A VIABLE OPTION RIGHT NOW, IN ADDITION TO CANYON LAKE. SO, WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT REALLY HELP US OUT, AND AS JESUS MENTIONED, WE KIND OF JUGGLE EACH ONE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE BEST USE OF AVAILABILITY WE HAVE. >> A QUESTION. ASR USED TO BE LIKE IT WAS GOING TO BE THE BEST THING WE COULD EVER DO. AND, WE HAVE SOME EXPERIMENTAL WELLS , AND I KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN SOME PROBLEMS WITH THEM. BUT, IS IT COST PROHIBITIVE TO LOOK AT TRADITIONAL, JUST, START FROM SCRATCH ASR? OR IS THAT NOT SOMETHING THAT'S FAVORED ANYMORE? WHAT HAPPENED? >> IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM. >> TIRED NOW, YOU CAN SPEAK FREELY, YOU ARE RETIRED. >> IT IS A GOOD PROGRAM. IT CAN BE VERY EXPENSIVE, AND THE FACT YOU HAVE TO PUSH THAT WATER DOWN THE HOLE AND PUSH IT BACK OUT. I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR A SHORT TERM NEED, BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT TO FIGURE IF WE ARE IN A DROUGHT STAGE FOUR , YOU KNOW, A YEAR, THERE IS NO WAY YOU WILL BE ABLE TO PUMP THAT MUCH FREE WATER INTO THAT HOLE TO HAVE A YEAR SUPPLY. SO, THOSE ASR WELLS OPTIONS ARE VERY EXPENSIVE, AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT CDM IS [01:05:04] GOING TO DO TO LOOK AT THAT TO SAY IS THAT A VIABLE OPTION, OR SHOULD WE JUST, YOU KNOW, USE OUR EXISTING GROUNDWATER WE HAVE? >> YEAH, I THINK THE CHALLENGE WAS IT'S DEPENDENT ON HAVING THE FLOW TO PUT WATER IN IT, AND IF WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE FLOW TO HAVE THAT EXTRA WATER TO FILL THEM UP IT'S KIND OF A MOOT POINT TO HAVE IT. >> THANK YOU. >> IS THAT FAIR? CAN YOU GO BACK A SLIDE? THE SLIDE THAT TALKS ABOUT-- WATER SECURE. SO, I REALLY WANT TO BRIEFLY PROVIDE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE WATER SECURE PROJECT YOU SEE HERE ON THIS SLIDE THAT'S UNDER CURRENT EVALUATION. THE MAYOR AND I HAD A CHANCE TO MEET WITH GBRA A FEW MONTHS AGO AND BASICALLY CLARIFY WITH THEM WHAT WOULD BE THE COST TO BE INVOLVED WITH THIS PROJECT. UM-- THIS PROJECT OF COURSE AS YOU, I THINK EVERYBODY IS AWARE, WOULD TAKE WATER FROM SOUTHEAST OF US IN THE BAY , ALL THE WAY TO CENTRAL TEXAS. SO THERE WAS A THOUGHT WHY DON'T WE JUST TAP INTO THOSE PIPELINES? THEY ARE ON A PRETTY AGGRESSIVE TIME SCHEDULE TO TRY AND GET COMMITMENTS FROM COMMUNITIES ACROSS THAT STRETCH. AND, EVEN THOUGH IT'S TECHNICALLY UNDER EVALUATION I WANTED TO PROVIDE YOU THE LATEST COST ESTIMATES OF THAT. QUITE FRANKLY IT'S REALLY NOT AN OPTION, AND I THINK IT WOULD BEHOOVE US TO MAKE GBRA IT'S NOT A VIABLE OPTION FOR US, ESPECIALLY IF WE WERE ALREADY GETTING A SENSE THAT ACCESSING GROUNDWATER IS MORE THAN LIKELY GOING TO BE OUR PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE. AND, SO AS AN EXAMPLE, THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT SECURED-- SORRY, WATER SECURE PROJECT, THEY ARE LOOKING TO HAVE THE DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES THAT ARE ALONG THAT STRETCH CONTRIBUTE TO THE CAPITAL EXPENDITURE OF THAT PIPELINE. WE LOOKED AT POTENTIALLY TAPPING INTO 5 MILLION GALLONS UP TO 10 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY OF RAW WATER. COSTS WOULD BE ROUGHLY $250 MILLION OVER 40 YEARS TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE CAPITAL EXPENSE FIVE MGD UPWARDS TO 500 MILLION OVER 40 YEARS IF WE WERE TO PURSUE THE 10 MGD OPTION. THOSE COSTS DON'T ACCOUNT FOR HOW MUCH WE WOULD BUY THE WATER FOR. THIS IS RAW WATER, SO IT DOES NOT ACCOUNT FOR THE COST OF BUILDING ANY TREATMENT FACILITIES TO TREAT THE WATER. SO AS YOU CAN SEE COMMITTING $250 MILLION FOR FIVE MGD, WHICH WE HAVE ACCESS TO FIVE MGD AND GROUNDWATER RIGHTS ALREADY. IT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. AND SO, I WANTED TO BE UM-- TRANSPARENT WITH YOU AROUND SOME OF THESE COSTS. BECAUSE, I THINK WE OWE IT TO GBRA TO HAVE A TIMELY RESPONSE TO THEM THAT THIS IS NOT LOOKING LIKE A FEASIBLE OPTION FOR US. IT IS SOLELY COST THEM AND THEY ARE WORKING OFF OF SURFACE WATER. SO, I KNOW THAT ONE OF THE GOALS OF THIS EXERCISE WAS ALSO TO DIVERSIFY UM-- THE SOURCE OF WATER, AND NOT PUT ALL OUR EGGS IN THE BASKET OF SURFACE WATER. PURSUING THAT OPTION WOULD NOT ACHIEVE THAT EITHER. SO, I WANT TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF IN LIGHT OF HOW FAR WE GOT IN THE STUDY WE FEEL CONFIDENT. IF THERE'S NO OPPOSITION I WILL COMMUNICATE TO GBRA THAT THIS PROJECT IS NOT FEASIBLE FOR US TO PARTICIPATE IN. >> I THINK THAT'S 100% THE RIGHT ANSWER. JUST, AS YOU SAID, THAT DIDN'T EVEN INCLUDE THE WATER COST. THAT'S JUST TO HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE. AND WE HAVE LESS EXPENSIVE OPTIONS THAT CAN GET US THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY. TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT MR. GARZA SAID, WE ARE NOT IN A TERRIBLE POSITION AS IT RELATES TO WATER. I THINK WE ARE IN A PRETTY STRONG POSITION AS IT RELATES TO WATER. PARTICULARLY IF YOU COMPARE TO OTHER CITIES ACROSS THE STATE WHO ARE HAVING TO PAY THESE , THIS KIND OF MONEY AND INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS. JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE WATER FOR THEIR COMMUNITIES. SO, I THINK THAT IS IN LARGE PART DO TO PROACTIVE MEASURES THAT WERE TAKEN PREVIOUSLY IN YEARS PAST, AND I THINK OUR PREDECESSORS DID AN EXCELLENT JOB OF PUTTING US IN A GOOD POSITION. AND I THINK THIS TYPE OF PROACTIVE STUDY CARRIES ON THAT TRADITION, IF YOU WILL, OF MAKING SURE WE HAVE WATER THAT WE HAVE RELIABLE SOURCES AND ARE TAKING CARE OF OUR COMMUNITY. SO, I THINK THIS IS A VERY GOOD PROJECT. I APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU HAVE PUT INTO IT ALREADY. I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS. >> THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.