[A. CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:08] >> GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING FOR NOVEMBER 21ST, 2024. LET US CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLE? >> [B. Communication] >> AS A REMINDER, TONIGHT'S MEETING AS BEING SOMEWHAT CAN HONESTLY CAST VIA TV15. ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? >> YES. I WANT TO ANNOUNCE MY NEW PLANNER. LOGAN FERRIS. LOGAN, WILL YOU PLEASE STAND UP? WE ARE BACK TO BEING FULLY STAFFED THAT WELCOME HIM. >> HOA BOARD. OKAY. AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME, WE GO INTO CITIZENS COMMUNICATION. WE ASK IF ANY CITIZENS WANT TO SPEAK ON ANYTHING OR ANY ITEMS THAT IS NOT LISTED FOR PUBLIC HEARING. YOU ARE ABLE TO DO IT AT THIS TIME. WE ASK THAT YOU LIMIT IT TO THREE MINUTES IF YOU SPEAK. ALL RIGHT. NOW, MR. MICHAEL. THANK YOU, MR. MICHAEL. >> GOOD EVENING LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. I LIVE AT 2204 EAST NORTH STREET. VICTORIA OAKS. YOU KNOW? I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING. YOU T HEARING TODAY. SOMEONE GOT EVICTED FROM A TRAILER HOUSE AND THEY GAVE HIM THREE DAYS NOTICE AND THAT'S IT. IT WAS A ILLEGAL CAT. THEY HAD A CAT IN THERE WITHOUT THE TRAILER OWNER'S PERMISSION. AND, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT THEY WERE GETTING STRICT WHEN THEY GAVE ME ONLY 60 DAYS MOTION TO VACATE. YOU KNOW? A GOOD TIME TO EVICT SOMEONE IS DECEMBER THE 23RD. RIGHT BEFORE THE HOLIDAYS. I DON'T THINK IT IS FAIR BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN PAYING ON TIME SINCE 1994 TO NOW. AND WHAT PEOPLE ARE DOING AS THEY ARE FINANCING THESE TRAILER HOUSES, AND WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY MAKE THE PAYMENTS ON TIME FOR A COUPLE YEARS AND THEN THEY CAN'T AFFORD THEM AND THEY GET EVICTED AND THEN THE OWNER TAKES AWAY THE TRAILER HOUSE BECAUSE IT IS ON THEIR PROPERTY AND IT COSTS $4000 OR $5000 TO MOVE IT. SO ALL OF THAT EQUITY THEY PUT INTO IT, YOU KNOW, IS LOST FOR GOOD. I WISH OWNERS COULD BE A LITTLE MORE FAIR, BUT THEY ARE NOT. THEY TEND TO RULE IN FAVOR OF THE OWNER'S. YOU KNOW? NOT THE TENANTS, THE LANDLORDS. ANYWAYS, SO I WENT TO SELL MY TRAILER HOUSE AND THEY WON'T LET ME SELL IT AND KEEP IT ON THE PROPERTY. MY NEIGHBOR WANTS TO BUY IT. SO THE ONLY WAY I CAN SELL IT AS IF IT GETS MOVED AND SOME PEOPLE DON'T HAVE $4000 TO MOVE IT, BUT I AM SELLING IT FOR $4000. YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY $4000 TO MOVE IT. I JUST WANT TO CAUTION PEOPLE WHEN LIVING IN TRAILER HOUSES, YOU'RE BETTER OFF BEING HER OWN HOME AND OWN LAND BECAUSE YOU MIGHT BE IN A BAD SITUATION. THEY DON'T HAVE TO GIVE YOU 60 DAYS NOTICE LIKE THEY ARE DOING ME. ONLY THREE DAYS NOTICE. THANKS. APPRECIATE IT. >> AT THIS TIME I WILL ASK IF THERE ARE ANY MORE CITIZENS WHO [1. Variance Requests for Right-of-Way Dedication and Cul-da-sac length fo...] WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. AT THIS TIME, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE CITIZENS COMMUNICATION AND WE WILL GO TO THE DEVELOPMENT ITEMS WE HAVE FOR PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH THE FIRST ITEM IS THE VARIANCE REQUEST FOR GLEN HAVEN COTTAGES SUBDIVISION. PLEASE. >> GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. THE STAFF REPORT IS FOR APPROVAL OF VARIANCES FOR SECTION 21-259(A) AND 21-260(F). JASON MOORE IS THE INVESTOR FOR MOORE LEGACY INVESTMENTS, LLC, AND HE IS ALSO THE OWNER. AND IS LOCATED GENERALLY EAST OF ALL AIRPORT ROAD AND EAST OF MASON. IT IS A PROPOSED PULMONARY PLAT OF 4.74 [00:05:11] ACRES. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY'S CORPORATE CITY LIMITS. THE PROPERTY IS UNDEVELOPED AND NOT PLOTTED. THE DEVELOPER PROPOSES TO PLAT THE PROPERTY INTO 39 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS WITHIN TWO BLOCKS. TO PLAT ALL 39 LOTS, THE DEVELOPER IS PROPOSING THE RIGHT-OF-WAY DEDICATION OF FIONA CIRCLE THE INTERNAL LOOP IS A ESSENTIALLY A CUL-DE-SAC. APPROXIMATELY 830 FEET AND A HALF OR A.D. AND A HALF ABOVE THE MAXIMUM CUL-DE-SAC LENGTH. FOR THESE REASONS, THE DEVELOPER IS REQUESTING VARIANCES TO ALLOW FOR THE APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT DEPICTING A PROPOSED LOCAL STREET BELOW THE RIGHT-OF-WAY DEDICATION REQUIREMENTS AS WELL AS A CUL-DE-SAC BEYOND THE MAXIMUM CUL-DE-SAC LENGTH. THE UNIFIED ORDINANCE STATES, THE DEVELOPER OF ANY SUBDIVISION WHICH NECESSITATES NEW STREET S THE RIGHT-OF-WAY LAYOUT, GRAY IT, AND OTHERWISE IMPROVE THESE STREETS IN ACCORDANCE TO THE CITY OF VICTORIA STREET STANDARDS. IF APPROVED, A VARIANCE WOULD ALLOW A 50 FOOT RIGHT-OF-WAY WITH ADDITIONAL EASEMENTS A 60 FOOT RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR A LOCAL STREET. TO MEET THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS OF A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, THE DEVELOPER HAS PROPOSED TO DEDICATE A 50 FOOT RIGHT-OF-WAY TO MAKE SURE THERE MEETING OTHER COMMENTS FOR A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. SINCE THE DEVELOPER HAS TO PROPOSE A REDUCED RIGHT-OF-WAY DEDICATION, ADDITIONAL PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENTS WITHIN THE FRONT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED AND THE DEVELOPER HAS PROPOSED A SUBDIVISION RESTRICTION PROHIBITING ON STREET PARKING. PROHIBITING ON STREET PARKING ALLOWS BETTER TRAFFIC FLOW AND BETTER ACCESS FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES. THE UNIFIED ELEMENT ORDINANCE ALSO STATES A CUL-DE-SAC IS A LOCAL STREET WHICH IS OPEN ON ONE END WITH THE CLOSED END HAVING A TURNAROUND WITH A SUFFICIENT RADIUS TO'S FACILITATOR REVERSAL OF TRAFFIC MOVEMENT. A CUL-DE-SAC SHOULD NOT EXCEED THE MAXIMUM LENGTH OF 750 FEET. THE PROPOSED PULMONARY PLAT DOES NOT DEPICT A TRADITIONAL CUL-DE-SAC BUT RATHER A LOOP STREET WHICH IS A FUNDAMENTAL -- WHICH IS FUNDAMENTALLY THE SAME AS A CUL-DE-SAC AS IT IS A NO OUTLET SUBDIVISION. THE GRANTING OF A VARIANCE WILL ALLOW THE DEVELOPER TO PLAT PROPERTY WITH A CUL-DE-SAC EXCEEDING THE MAXIMUM LENGTH OF 750 FEET, WHILE SERVING 39 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS TO ALLOW A CUL-DE-SAC WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 830 1/2 FEET IN LENGTH OR A.D. AND A HALF ABOVE THE MAXIMUM LENGTH AND ORDINANCE. THE DEVELOPER PROPOSES TO PLAT THE PROPERTY INTO 39 DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS WITH TWO BLOCKS. THE PROPOSED PULMONARY PLAT DEPICTS THE FUTURE DEDICATION OF FIONA CIRCLE WITH A VARIABLE WIDTH RIGHT AWAY BETWEEN 50 AND 60 FEET AT THE PROPOSED LOCAL STREET. OH. THE FRONT FIONA CIRCLE TO BALL AIRPORT ROAD. THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE SUBDIVISION IS AS FOLLOWS. WATER SERVICES BEING PROVIDED VIA PROPOSED 8 INCH WATER LINE THAT WILL CONNECT AN EXISTING 12 INCH WATER LINE AND BALL AIRPORT ROAD. SANITARY SEWER SERVICE WILL BE PROVIDED VIA 8 INCH SANITARY SEWER LINE CONNECTED TO THE EXISTING 15 INCH LINE LOCATED ON BALL AIRPORT ROAD. FOR THE STREETS, BALL AIRPORT ROAD IS A EXISTING SECONDARY WITH A KNIFE AT THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. FIONA CIRCLE IS A PROPOSED LOCAL STREET AND THE RIGHT-OF-WAY BERRIES. DRAINAGE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY OF VICTORIA MASTER DRAINAGE PLAN. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE VARIANCES REQUESTED TO ALLOW THE DEVELOPER TO PLAT THE PROPERTY WITH A REDUCED RIGHT-OF-WAY DEDICATION FOR 50 FEET FOR A PORTION OF THE PROPOSED LOCAL STREET FIONA CIRCLE AND A CUL-DE-SAC EXCEEDING THE MAXIMUM LENGTH OF 750 FEET WHILE SERVING 39 RESIDENTIAL LOTS. THE ALLOWANCE OF THE REDUCED -- THE ALLOWANCE FOR THE REDUCED RIGHT-OF-WAY AND CUL-DE-SAC LENGTH WILL NOT BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE EFFICIENCY OF THE ROAD NETWORK AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS AND ALL OTHER SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENTS ARE MET. MOST SPECIFICALLY, WHAT SIZE AND SETBACKS. THE SUBDIVISION DESIGN GENERALLY PROMOTES WIDER LOTS THAT WILL ALLOW FOR ADEQUATE OFFSTREET PARKING SINCE THE ON STREET PARKING WILL BE PROHIBITED AS WELL AS PART OF THE SUBDIVISION DESIGN STANDARDS. AS APPROVED BY THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. WITH THIS RESTRICTION, THE VARIANCES [00:10:13] WILL NOT BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, OR WELFARE, AND RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REDUCED RIGHT-OF-WAY. ADDITIONALLY, THE PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENTS IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY'S STANDARDS SPECIFICATIONS FOR UTILITY CONSTRUCTION. LASTLY, THE PROPOSED CUL-DE-SAC LENGTH IS SLIGHTLY OVER THE MAXIMUM, BUT THE GENERAL NARROWNESS OF THE PROPERTY DOES NOT ALLOW SUBDIVISION DESIGNS OUTSIDE OF THE CUL-DE-SAC. THE VARIANCE OF THE CUL-DE-SAC LENGTH IS MINIMAL. MINIMAL. FOR THESE REASONS, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR GLEN HAVEN COTTAGES, FINDING ALL APPLICABLE ORDINANCE, REGULATIONS, CONDITIONED UPON THE APPROVAL OF THE VARIANCES. >> THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING. BEFORE WE GO TO COMMISSION DISCUSSION, WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR A PUBLIC HEARING IF THERE ARE ANY CITIZENS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. WE ARE ASKING YOU COME FORWARD NOW BUT LIMIT YOUR RESPONSE TO THREE MINUTES. AT THIS TIME, YOU MAY COME IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. OKAY. WE WILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING. NOW, WE ARE OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING THAT THE COMMISSIONERS MAY HAVE? >> I ACTUALLY WOULD LIKE TO ASK IF IT CONCERNS THE VARIANCE. BUT IF THERE IS NO ON STREET PARKING AS REQUIRED BY THE ORDINANCE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WHO ENFORCES THAT? IS THAT A POLICE OFFICER'S ENFORCEMENT? WHO ENFORCES THAT AND WHAT DOES ENFORCEMENT LOOK LIKE? >> SO, TYPICALLY, WITH THIS ONE, IT COULD POSSIBLY A HLA-STYLE OR IF WE END UP POSTING IT WITH SIGNS IT COULD BE LAW ENFORCEMENT WITH THAT. >> YOU PLAN TO POST SIGNS? >> YES. RIGHT NOW, THIS IS JUST A PRELIMINARY PLAT . WE HAVE NOT GOT TO THAT. WITH THE FINAL PLAT, THE SIGNS WILL BE REQUIRED. >> THANK YOU. >> DO WE HAVE ANY SUBDIVISIONS WITH 50 FOOT RIGHT-OF-WAY AS THEY ARE PROPOSING IN VICTORIA? >> SO -- >> I MEAN, I HAD THE SAME THOUGHT. IS GOING TO ASK THE QUESTION, TOO. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT NO QUESTIONS ON THE STREETS. THAT IS -- I WAS WONDERING WHO WAS GOING TO ENFORCE THAT IF IT IS SO TO BE. I DO NOT SEE A HOA ENFORCING IT. I SEE POLICE WOULD DO IT. >> SO THE ACTUAL DESIGN OF THE ROAD ALSO IS THERE PROPOSING A 30 FOOT WIDTH OF THE PAVED ROAD WHICH IS ATYPICAL WITH THE MOST PAVED ROADS ON THERE. SO WE JUST TO KIND OF ENFORCE IT AND KEEP IT SAFE, THAT IS WHY WE WENT WITH RECOMMENDING APPROVAL AND DOING THE EXTRA UTILITY VARIANCES SO THAT 60 FOOT RIGHT-OF-WAY'S IS REALLY FOR UTILITIES AND KEEPING THEM OUT OF THE ROAD. BUT THE ACTUAL PAVING IS MATCHING MOST LOCAL STREETS. >> SOME STREETS WHEN THERE ARE SUBDIVISIONS, IT IS PRETTY HARD TO GET THROUGH. HAVE SMALLER STREET SIDES. I SEE WHERE THERE IS A 60 FOOT AND IT TURNS INTO 54 THE FIONA LOOP . >> CORRECT. RIGHT. THAT BEGINNING PART, THEY ARE GOING TO BEGIN TO PROPOSE THAT 60. THEN THAT PAVED AT THE BEGINNING IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE 36 OF PAVING. THAT IS WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED. >> IT MEETS ALL -- I HEARD THEM SAY IT MEETS ALL THE FLOOD ISSUED -- THE FLOODPLAIN ISSUES. CORRECT? >> CORRECT. THIS IS NOT ON A FLOODPLAIN AREA ON THAT. >> OR DRAINAGE WISE. >> CORRECT. AND, RIGHT NOW, THIS IS JUST A PRELIMINARY PLAT IN FRONT OF YOU ALL. YOU WILL ALL SEE THE FINAL PLAT AGAIN AND CONSTRUCTION PLANS WILL BE TIED TO THAT FINAL PLAN. SO THEY WILL HAVE MORE DESIGN FACTORS AT THAT TIME. >> CONTINUING WITH THE PARKING DISCUSSION. WITH NO ON STREET PARKING, I GUESS EVERY OWNER WILL PARK ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY. THERE IS NO GUEST PARKING? >> IT IS JUST LIKE YOUR RESIDENTIAL HOME ON THERE. SO THE REASON FOR THE REDUCED RIGHT-OF-WAY ALSO IS TO GET THAT LOT SIZE BIGGER SO THEY CAN ACTUALLY MAKE A BIGGER PARKING. IT IS NOT YOUR TYPICAL SIZE, BUT THEY ARE STILL REQUIRED TO HAVE THE MINIMUM FOR A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL WHICH IS A 20 BY 20 PARKING PAD. BUT, YEAH. NO. >> SO BASICALLY ENOUGH FOR TWO [00:15:02] HOMES. >> YEAH. >> YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS FOR THE COMMISSION? AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME, WE ARE GOING TO SEEK A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR THE PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR GLEN HAVEN COTTAGES SUBDIVISION. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I ALREADY HAVE ONE MOTION FROM MS. BEARD. I HAVE A SECOND FROM VICE CHAIR. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. >> AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. ALL RIGHT. NOW, WE GET [D. Consent Agenda:] TO MOVE ON TO WHAT WE CALL THE CONSENT AGENDA. RIGHT NOW, OR DO WE HAVE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA AS IS? >> YOU NEED TO STATE WHAT IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA BEFORE THEY CAN DO THAT MOTION. >> OH, THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. SO HERE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THERE ARE TWO ITEMS WHICH IS THE MINUTES FOR OCTOBER 1720 24 MEETING AND THE PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR GLEN HAVEN COTTAGES SUBDIVISION. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA AS IS? >> SO MOVED. >> SO WE HAVE ONE MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> I WILL SECOND. WE HAVE A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. [E. Other Business:] >> AYE. >> THE MOTION PASSES. THE MOTLEY DEVELOPMENT REPORT. CAN WE HAVE THE MONTHLY DEVELOPMENT REPORT, PLEASE? >> IN OCTOBER OF 2024, WE HAD 226 NEW PERMITS ISSUED AND LAST YEAR IT WAS 139. FOR THE PERMITS ISSUED FOR THE MONTH OF OCTOBER, IT WAS 166 AND LAST YEAR 158. AND FOR THE APARTMENT FEES COLLECTED, IT WAS $64,691 AND LAST YEAR WAS $53,536. >> THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY CONCERNS? OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. FROM THIS WE ARE MOVED TO -- >> HOLD ON. HOLD ON. HE HAS ONE MORE REPORT. >> SO WE HAD TWO MINOR PLATS THIS MONTH. ONE MAJOR PLAT. AND ONE CITY COUNCIL ELECTION. AND PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVED THE VARIANCE. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> NOT ON THAT BUT I HAVE A REQUEST. ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION ATTENDANCE. THE TERMS EXPIRE. I WOULD LIKE TO GET THAT UPDATED. TO REFLECT WHAT IS REAL. STILL SHOWING BRIAN OLGUIN AS TERM EXPIRES ON 2023 FOR ONE. IN MIND DOES NOT EXPIRE UNTIL 2024. >> YES. WE WILL GET THOSE ALL UPDATED. >> RIGHT NOW, DO WE HAVE ANY ITEMS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT OR DISCUSS? ALL RIGHT. SEEING AS THERE IS NO OTHER [F. Items from Planning Commissioners:] BUSINESS, I WOULD LIKE TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING AT WHATEVER THE TIME IS. >> ARE WE GOING TO TALK ABOUT PARKING? >> WELL, IT WAS NOT ON THE ITEM DISCUSSED HER THE EMAIL WITHOUT. IF WE HAD ANY QUESTIONS, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO DIRECTLY EMAIL OR TALK TO THAT PERSON. DO WE HAVE ANY ITEMS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS WANTED TO TALK ABOUT? >> IF THERE IS AN ITEM WE CAN PUT ON THE NEXT AGENDA, YOU COULD CERTAINLY REQUEST THAT, SIR? >> CAN WE REQUEST IT TO BE ON TODAY'S AGENDA? TONIGHT'S MEETING? >> WHEN ME AND JULIE WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THE LAST PLANNING COMMISSION, IT LOOKS LIKE THE GENTLEMAN WAS DOING AN ANALYSIS OF THOSE PARKING REQUIREMENTS. THAT IS WHY WE REQUIRED YOU ALL A PARKING MEMO AFTER WE ALREADY REVIEWED THAT. YOU MIGHT ALSO WANT TO BRING IT BACK ON ANOTHER AGENDA. WE CAN ADD IT. >> FIRST OF ALL, THE MEMO WAS VERY CLEAR AND VERY WELL DONE. THANK YOU FOR THAT. SOME CONCERNS STILL REMAIN, I BELIEVE. ESPECIALLY ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT CURRENTLY UNDER PROCESS IN SOUTH MAIN. >> SO WITH THE DEVELOPMENT ON SOUTH MAIN, THE ISSUE YOU ALL BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE MULTIFAMILY PARKING ISSUE, WE CAN BRING THAT ISSUE BACK IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION. HOWEVER, THAT WON'T INFLUENCE [00:20:04] THE PEARL DIVISION DEVELOPMENT. THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. ANY KIND OF DISCUSSION WITH THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT PARKING WOULD AFFECT ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS WITH MULTI FAMILY. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT. I JUST THINK THE WISH OF THE COMMISSIONERS WHEN THIS WAS DISCUSSED TWO MONTHS AGO IS THERE WAS CONCERN THERE WASN'T ENOUGH PARKING AT THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT. AND WE WANTED TO HAVE WORDING THAT WOULD PROTECT THAT FROM HAPPENING AGAIN. >> SO WE CAN -- LIKE I SAID, IF YOU WANT TO BRING THAT BACKUP AS FAR AS MULTI DEVELOP PARKING AS FAR AS THE AGENDA, WE CAN DO THAT, BUT IT WOULD NOT AFFECT THE PEARL HOME. IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT, WE CAN PUT THAT ON THE NEXT DECEMBER AGENDA IF YOU ALL LIKE. >> WELL, THE PROBLEM PERSISTS AND I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED. >> SHOULD WE COME TO A VOTE OR GO AHEAD AND SUGGEST IT? >> TO BE CLEAR, THE AGENDA WOULD ONLY BE DISCUSSING MULTIFAMILY PARKING. WE COULD NOT BRING UP THE PEARL HOME BECAUSE THE PARKING ON THAT DEVELOPMENT WAS NOT AGAINST THE ORDINANCE. IT WAS APPROVED AT THAT TIME. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT. CORRECT. >> I THINK WE WANT TO PREVENT THAT ISSUE FROM HAPPENING AGAIN. >> ANY OF YOU CAN REQUEST AN ITEM BE BROUGHT FORTH AS AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA AT THE NEXT MEETING. WE CAN CERTAINLY MAKE SURE THAT THAT PARTICULAR CONCERN IS AN ITEM TO BE DISCUSSED AT THE NEXT MEETING. YES. YOU DON'T NEED A VOTE ON THAT. >> CAN I ASKED JUST TO BE CLEAR FOR MYSELF, WHAT MULTITUDES MULTIFAMILY PARKING? IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THE DEVELOPMENT ON MAIN, THE DEVELOPMENT LISTED BY TWO HOMES, THREE HOMES, TO AVOID THAT MULTI FAMILY? >> YEP. I AM NOT TRYING TO JUMP IN FRONT OF YOU HERE, BUT WE DO HAVE TO KEEP THE CONVERSATIONS TO THE THINGS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA SO IF YOU CAN HOLD THAT QUESTION UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING OR EMAIL IT TO CELESTE OR JULIE. THAT WOULD PUT US IN A DISCUSSION THAT HAS NOT BEEN POSTED. I WANT TO GET INTO THIS AT THIS TIME. I WANT TO ADD IT SO YOU CAN ALL HAVE A FULL ON DISCUSSION IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO. >> SO FOR DECEMBER, JUST FOR MINE, I WILL GO AHEAD AND PUT IT ON ITEMS FOR DISCUSSIONS FOR PERMISSION US. WE WILL DISCUSS DEVELOPMENT PARKING FOR YOU ALL. WE WILL GET THAT ADDED. >> OKAY. I WILL ASK YOU THE QUESTION. DO WE HAVE ANYMORE ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION AND I WILL COUNT TO FIVE IN MY HEAD. >> OKAY. SINCE WE DON'T, SINCE THERE IS * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.