[A. CALL TO ORDER]
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>>> HELLO EVERYONE, WELCOME TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR TUESDAY, JUNE THE FOURTH. WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLE?
>> THE PLEDGES ANY MOMENT OF SILENCE.
>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
>> HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.
>> THANK YOU. AGAIN, WELCOME EVERYONE. WE WILL MOVE RIGHT
[1. Announcements/Reminders:]
INTO ITEM B1, ANNOUNCEMENTS AND REMINDERS. HOW ARE YOU THISEVENING? >> I AM GREAT. GOOD EVENING. I HAVE ONE ANNOUNCEMENT. ON BEHALF OF VICTORIA POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE WOULD LIKE TO REMIND THE PUBLIC THEY WILL BE HOLDING CAMP -- IN MEMORY OF CAMERON LEE, WHO HAD THE LOVE OF BECOMING A POLICE OFFICER. APPLICATION FORMS CAN BE DOWNLOADED . OR PICKED UP AT THE SUBSTATION IN THE VICTORIA MALL. COMPLETED FORMS AND FEES MUST BE TURNED IN BY JUNE 10TH AT THE MALL LOCATION. FOR MORE INFO CONTACT THE PD OR TRAINING . AND SURPRISINGLY THAT IS ALL I HAVE.
>> THAT IS SOMEWHAT SURPRISING. YES. WE WILL MOVE TO B 2.
>> I HAVE ONE EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION BEFORE WE GET TO THE PUBLIC ONE. I HAD SOMETHING ELSE. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK OUR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY RUBIE BOONE TO STAND UP FOR A SECOND. SHE WAS RECENTLY ELECTED TO THE SMALL CITY AT-LARGE POSITION AT THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS. THANK YOU L.A. IS THE SERVICE -- IN ASSISTING THE ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE, RULE OF THE LAW, AND ADVANCING THE ROLES OF LAWYERS AND SERVING THE PUBLIC. THIS SPEAKS TO AGAIN OUR EMPLOYEES' CONTINUATION OF PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND SERVING THE GREATER GOOD, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR REPRESENTING US WELL.
APPLAUSE ] >> YOU ARE AN ATTORNEY. SPEECH,
[a. Keep Victoria Beautiful June Business Beautification Award. Christy Yo...]
SPEECH! THAT IS ALL ON MY END. I AM HAPPY TO INTRODUCE THE NEXT TOPIC. I WILL ASK CHRISTY YOUKER TO COME UP AND HELP INTRODUCE I'M SURE A BOARD MEMBER WHO WILL TALK ABOUT THE KEEP VICTORIA BEAUTIFUL AWARD.>> BEFORE I DO THAT I WANT TO MAKE A POINT TO REMIND THE COMMUNITY TO NOMINATE A BUSINESS THAT IS DOING A BEAUTIFUL JOB TAKING CARE OF THEIR PROPERTY. WE HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW, HONORING LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT GO THE EXTRA MILE. THERE IS LOTS OF THEM OUT THERE. AS A REMINDER, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ANYTHING HUGE. IT CAN BE POTTED PLANTS AND A NICE PAINT JOB AND THE GAMUT OF WHAT MAKES A BUSINESS JUST APPEALING TO THOSE IN VICTORIA. YOU CAN GO TO OUR WEBSITE, YOU CAN ALSO GIVE US A CALL. IF YOU WANT TO NOMINATE A BUSINESS. AND NOW I WILL INTRODUCE MEREDITH BIRD, OUR BOARD CHAIR, TO ANNOUNCE THE WINNER.
>> GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. IT IS NICE TO SEE YOU GUYS. SO, ON BEHALF OF THE KVB BOARD, I AM DELIGHTED TO PRESENT JUNE'S BEAUTIFICATION AWARD TO NEW FIRST NATIONAL BANK. THIS IS A HUGE PROPERTY ON THE CORNER OF MAIN AND -- THEY HAVE BEEN A PART OF THE COMMUNITY SINCE 2005 AND MOVED TO , THEY BUILT THE LOCATION IN 2008, AND EXPANDED IN 2014. AND IT IS A BIG PROPERTY AND ALWAYS LOOKS IMMACULATE. IT IS ALWAYS REALLY
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WELL KEPT, THE MOWING AND LANDSCAPING, GORGEOUS COLORFUL POTTED PLANTS THAT ARE LINING THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING. IT IS REALLY ONE OF -- IT IS ALWAYS PUTTING ITS BEST FACE FORWARD AND CERTAINLY DESERVING OF THIS AWARD. TONIGHT, HELP ME CONGRATULATE NEW FIRST NATIONAL BANK.>> THANK YOU. I AM NEAL STEPHENSON AND WITH ME AS HIS NIST DEVELOPMENT OFFICER SHEILA VESELY. WE HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE 2005, OUR BRANCH WAS STARTED BY THE LATE LANDLORD RANDALL ALL.
WE MOVED TO OUR CURRENT LOCATION IN 2007. I AM SORRY.
2008. AND WE HAVE ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT WE HAD A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING AND PRETTY LOCATION. AND WE ARE APPRECIATIVE THAT SOMEONE ELSE THINKS SO AS WELL. SO WE COULD NOT DO IT WITHOUT THE HELP THAT WE GET FROM THE -- FAMILY WITH HOME AND YARD GRAPHIC , THAT DOES OUR LANDSCAPING. AND JOHN -- WITH FOUR SEASONS NURSERY, THEY DO OUR POTTED PLANTS. THEY MAKE EVERYTHING LOOK REALLY GOOD AND KEEP IT BEAUTIFUL. WE APPRECIATE THE RECOGNITION, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> CONGRATULATIONS, WELL DESERVED.
[3. Items from Council:]
>> THEN WE WILL MOVE TO ITEMS FROM COUNSEL. ANYBODY HAVE
ANYTHING THIS EVENING? >> I HAVE SOMETHING. PERHAPS WE CAN TALK ABOUT AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE. BUT I HAVE A CITIZEN THAT IS CALLED ME OR CONTACTED ME APPARENTLY THEIR NEIGHBOR HAS NOW A ROOSTER. THEY USE TO HAVE CHICKENS, AND DOES HAVE CHICKENS, AND I KNOW A LOT OF US HAVE DEALT WITH THE CHICKENS ORDINANCE. BUT A ROOSTER SORT OF IS A DIFFERENT SITUATION. SHE IS GETTING QUITE A BIT OF NOISE FROM IT. SO SHE POINTED OUT THAT SOME CITIES DON'T ALLOW ROOSTERS. I DID NOT KNOW, I HADN'T REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT IT. BUT IT IS SOMETHING I WILL LOOK INTO A LITTLE MORE AND JUST THOUGHT I WOULD MENTION IT FOR US AND ALSO FOR THE COMMUNITY, TO BE GOOD CITIZENS AND GOOD NEIGHBORS.
>> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT. THEN WE WILL MOVE ON FROM B 3, AND WE WILL MOVE TO CITIZEN COMMUNICATION. I HAVE A FEW CARDS, WE WILL START WITH JENNY STAFFORD. WELCOME MISS
STAFFORD. >> THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON TO ALL OF YOU. I AM HERE TO TELL YOU, I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT THAT THE CITY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT HAS HAD ON THE COAST AND OUR COMMUNITY OF LARGE. I HATE TO GIVE YOU A HISTORY LESSON BUT HERE I GO ANYWAY. BACK WHEN I FIRST BECAME CEO WE BE , WE REALIZED OUR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SHELTER WAS WORN OUT. IT WAS AN OLD HOUSE ON DEEPU STREET. THE ELECTRICITY, THE PLUMBING, EVERYTHING WAS SHOT. WE CREATED A COMMITTEE TO START RAISING MONEY AND I HAVE NEVER DONE IT BEFORE. ROBERT TOOK ME BY THE HAND AND SAID LET ME TELL YOU, THERE IS MONEY OUT THERE, WE JUST HAVE TO FIND IT. AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THEY HAD NOT BEEN USED IN THE WAY THAT IT IS USED NOW AND HE AND I HAD VISITED ALMOST EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER. I WANT TO READ THE LIST, IT WAS DENISE, GABE, PAUL, DAVID, JOE, TOM, WE HAD A FEW COOKIES. AND ALSO THE MAYOR WILL ARMSTRONG AT THE TIME. WE TOLD THEM OUR IDEA ABOUT
BUILDING A SHELTER AND USING >> NO. SEVEN MONEY. WE GOT NO PUSHBACK. THERE WAS AGREEMENT IN DOING THAT. WE WERE ABLE TO USE SOME OTHER DONATED FUNDS TO BUY THE PROPERTY. AND THEN CDBG WAS LIKE OUR SEED MONEY AND WE WERE ABLE TO BUILD A FACILITY.
AT A COST OF ABOUT $2 MILLION. IMMEDIATELY AFTER WE BUILT WE MOVED IN AND REALIZED WE WERE UNDER BUILT. WE STARTED ANOTHER BUILDING PROJECT, CD , THANK YOU CDBG. WE ADDED A WING OF OFFICES THAT ADDED CASE MANAGEMENT, LEGAL ADVOCACY, CRISIS MANAGEMENT, CHILDREN SERVICES, AND AGAIN WE UNDER
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BUILT. WE TOOK IT BACK TO THE BOARD AND THEY SAID WHATEVER WE DO BUILD A BUILDING TWICE AS BIG THAT YOU THINK WE WILL NEED. WE BUILT AN ADDITIONAL WIN FOR CHILDREN SERVICES TO DO PARENTING AND CHILDREN'S ACTIVITIES. WE CANNOT CALL IT DAYCARE BUT WE CALL IT SHELTER CARE. WE COULD NOT HAVE DONE THAT WITHOUT THE CDBG MONEY. I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS NOT JUST TO US BUT THE PEOPLE WE SERVE. AND HERE I AM WITH MY HAND OUT AGAIN. WE HAVE ANOTHER PROJECT LOOMING BEFORE US. YOU HAVE GRACIOUSLY GRANTED US MONEY IN THE PAST. WE NEED A LITTLE MORE TO GET US OVER THE HUMP, TO DO THE RESOURCE CENTER WHERE WE WILL PROVIDE SHOWERS AND LOCKERS AND THE ABILITY TO HOLD MAIL FOR THE FOLKS THAT ARE LIVING ON THE STREET. AS WELL AS OTHER THINGS FOR KIDS IN THE IMMUNITY. BEFORE I SIT DOWN, MY TIME IS UP, NOT EVERY COMMUNITY IS LIKE VICTORIA. I AM ON SEVERAL DIFFERENT LIST SERVES AND THERE ARE MANY LIKE ME THAT DO NOT GET WELL , ALONG WELL WITH CITY LEADERS AND PLANNING. WE HAVE THE BEST WHEN IT COMES TO CITY PLANNING. IF I NEED A LETTER SIGNED, A COPY OF SOMETHING, THEY ARE ALWAYS AGREEABLE. I FEEL THAT THEY ARE TRULY PARTNERS IN THE WORK WE ARE DOING TO SERVE THE VULNERABLE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU.>> THANK YOU. NEXT IS MICHAEL -- WELCOME.
>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. I AM MICHAEL AND I LIVE AT 2204 EAST NORTH STREET. WE HAVE PEOPLE LIVING AT THE CARWASH AT THE SALVATION ARMY, AT NEW STREET. IS THERE ANY WAY THAT SOMEONE COME FROM THE SALVATION ARMY COULD HELP THEM GET SHELTER, OR AT LEAST GIVE THEM SOME WATER? I DON'T CARE ANYMORE, I DON'T USE THE CARWASH ANYMORE. YOU KNOW? THE PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE SO DESPERATE WERE THEY HAVE TO LIVE AT A CARWASH. I NOTICED TODAY, YOU KNOW IT HAS BEEN A COME AND GO THING. I JUST WISH THAT SOMEONE COULD HELP THEM.
YOU KNOW, IT IS NOT EVEN FAIR TO THE OWNER THAT OWNS THE BUSINESS. WHO IS GOING TO USE HIS BUSINESS? I DO WISH THAT SOMEONE COULD GO UP THERE AND TALK TO THEM, MAYBE A -- PERSON OR SOMEONE FROM THE SALVATION ARMY. THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON A WHILE. I ALSO WANTED TO THANK CODE ENFORCEMENT FOR CLEANING UP AROUND CHRIST KITCHEN AND QUEEN CITY PARK. THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF FILTH AND SQUALOR EVERYWHERE. THERE ARE FURNITURE, TIRES, PEOPLE THAT DUMP THEIR FURNITURE AT THE DUMPSTER AT CHRIST KITCHEN. THERE ARE PEOPLE LIVING IN TENTS. THEY DID GET RID OF THOSE. IF THE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE PICKED UP AFTER THEMSELVES, THEY PROBABLY COULD'VE BEEN LIVING IN THE TENT. I WISH SOMEONE COULD FOLLOW-UP AND TAKE CARE OF IT. I GIVE CODE ENFORCEMENT AN A+ ON EFFORT.
THEY HAVE BEEN WRITING PEOPLE UP AND STUFF. SOME PEOPLE LIKE TO LIVE IN FILTH AND SQUALOR AND THEY WILL NOT CHANGE. WHEN I WAS IN THE NAVY PEOPLE WOULD NOT FLUSH THE TOILET OR WASH THEIR HANDS AND THEY HAD TO HAVE HAD WATCHES TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE WOULD FLUSH THE TOILETS AND WASH THEIR HANDS. I ONCE HAD A LIEUTENANT COMMANDER THAT DID NOT WANT TO FLUSH AND I CHEWED HIM OUT. I SAID THAT IS MY JOB AND I MADE HIM WASH HIS HANDS AND STUFF. IT SHOULD NOT COME TO THAT. SOME PEOPLE LIKE LIVING LIKE THAT AND THEY WILL NOT CHANGE NO MATTER WHAT. I WOULD LIKE SOMEONE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE CARWASH AND TALK TO SOME , SOMEONE THAT IS LIVING THERE. RIGHT NOW IT IS IN THE 90S AND REALLY HOT AND I FEEL BAD FOR THEM. BUT THANKS AND HAVE A GOOD EVENING. OH, ONE MORE THING! I DO NOT THINK WHEN PEOPLE KILL 11 DOGS THEY SHOULD GET EIGHT YEARS OF PROBATION AND DEFERRED ADJUDICATION. THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE DOING RIGHT NOW. IF YOU KILL PETS YOU AUTOMATICALLY GET PROBATION. WE HAD A DAY CARE CENTER FOR DOGS AND IT WAS JUST A KILLING MACHINE. ALL THEY DID WAS KILLED THE DOGS. I WISH THEY COULD BE MORE STRICT ON PERSECUTIONS. THANKS AND HAVE A
GREAT AFTERNOON. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. MY LAST CARD IS MR. HARVEY FISK. WELCOME MR. FISK.
>> THANK YOU. AT EVENING MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND INTERESTED CITIZENS. OVER THE WEEKEND I HAD A NUMBER OF GUITARS PLAYING AT MY HOUSE, THEIR MUSIC WAS BEAUTIFUL. MORE BEAUTIFUL THAN ANY OF THEM HAVE PLAYED ALONE. LAST NIGHT I ATTENDED A PERFORMANCE THAT WAS BROKEN INTO PARTS. IT BEGAN WITH TANNER -- AND FOLLOWED BY BOBBY HARRIS. WHEN THEY PERFORM TOGETHER WE GOT TO EXPERIENCE THE TRUE BEAUTY OF THEIR WORK.
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THIS WEEK, AS PART OF BOCH FEST, THERE WILL BE A NUMBER OF PERFORMANCES BY VARIOUS MUSICAL ARTISTS. OFTEN IN GROUPS OF THREE OR FOUR. THEY WILL PERFORM USING DIFFERENT INSTRUMENTS IN DIFFERENT STYLES. THE COMPOSERS WILL REPRESENT PERIOD TIME PERIODS IN MUSICAL HISTORY. THE ARTISTS COME FROM FAR AWAY PLACES, AS WELL AS THE CROSSROADS AREA.HAVING ATTENDED THESE IN THE PAST I AM CONFIDENT THEY WILL PRODUCE MAGICAL AND BEAUTIFUL SOUNDS. ON SATURDAY NIGHT THESE SMALL GROUPS WILL COME TOGETHER TO PERFORM AS PART OF A LARGE ORCHESTRA. IT IS THEN THAT THE TRUE MAGIC WILL BE HEARD. THE SOUNDS OF ALL THE INSTRUMENTS AND MUSICIANS WILL CREATE A BEAUTY THAT IS MORE THAN ANYONE INSTRUMENT OR MUSICIAN CAN CREATE BY THEMSELVES. IT IS LIKE LIFE, ONLY WHEN WE ALL WORK TOGETHER TOWARD A COMMON GOAL THAT WE CAN BECOME BETTER THAN ANY OF US CAN ALONE. THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM AND PEOPLE LISTENING WHO ARE DIFFERENT IN SO MANY WAYS. YET WE SHARE A BASIC HUMANITY. WE NEED TO ACCEPT EACH OTHER FOR WHAT WE HAVE IN COMMON, RATHER THAN WHAT DRIVES US APART.
THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU MR. FISK. THAT CONCLUDES THEN ITEM B 4. CITIZEN COMMUNICATION. THERE
[D. Consent Agenda:]
ARE NO ITEMS WITH PUBLIC HEARINGS TONIGHT SO WE WILL MOVE INTO ITEM D, THE CONSENT AGENDA.>> THE ADOPTION OF MINUTES OF SPECIAL MEETING HELD ON MAY 14, 2024 AND REGULAR MEETING HELD ON MAY 21ST, 2024. AN ORDINANCE AMENDING A VARIANCE OF THE CITY CODE FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2804 NORTH LAWRENCE STREET, TO ALLOW THE SALE OF ALCOHOL. THIS IS ON SECOND AND THIRD READING. ITEM NUMBER THREE IS THE REAPPOINTING MEMBERS TO THE VICTORIA HEALTH FACILITIES DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. ITEM NUMBER FOUR, ADOPT AN UPDATE TO THE CITY OF VICTORIA'S FINANCIAL POLICIES TO ENSURE CONSISTENCY WITH CERTAIN FEDERAL GRANT PROGRAM GUIDELINES. ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS A PROVEN AGREEMENT WITH TEXAS TOOLING HARDWARE FOR THE INSTALLATION OF REPLACEMENT DOORS TO THE CHLORINE BUILDING AT THE SURFACE WATER TREATMENT PLANT, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $63,443. ITEM NUMBER SIX IS APPROVED THE PURCHASE OF A DISINFECTION SYSTEM AT WATER PUMP STATION NUMBER THREE, FROM KAPLAN BLAKELY DBA MOODY BROTHERS INC. IN THE AMOUNT OF $75,825. AND NUMBER SEVEN IS AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO ACCEPT A GRANT AND EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH GOLDEN CRESCENT REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THE PURCHASE AND SUPPORT OF THE WASTE WIZARD ONLINE SEARCH TOOL IN THE AMOUNT OF $12,000 $209.44.
[1. Approve a funding agreement with Victoria Electric Cooperative (VEC) f...]
>> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.
>> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? CONSENT AGENDA IS
PAST. ITEM NUMBER E 1. >> APPROVE A FUNDING AGREEMENT WITH VICTORIA ELECTRIC COOPERATIVE FOR LED STREET LIGHT CONVERSION PROJECT IN THE AMOUNT OF $128,435.55.
>> THAT AGENDA ITEM CAME UP QUICK.
>> CAN GIL CANNOT BE WITH US THIS EVENING. AND MIKE IS NOT HERE EITHER. I AM COVERING THIS TOPIC FOR THIS EVENING. I KNOW I MENTIONED THAT DEREK WOULD COVER THE PUBLIC WORKS ITEMS, BUT I LOVE THE PROJECT SO I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IT. WE INTENTIONALLY PULLED THE ITEM FROM CONSENT. WE FELT THAT IT WAS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO REMIND YOU, ALSO FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE TWO NEW COUNCILMEMBERS, TO RECAP THE EFFORT. WE HAVE CALLED IT LIGHT UP VICTORIA, FROM A MARKETING STANDPOINT MAKING THE POINT THAT WE ARE EMPHASIZING ON HAVING A BETTER LET COMMUNITY. I WILL TALK ABOUT THE BENEFITS.
IN ESSENCE, SOME HISTORY, WE PARTNER TO CONVERT ROUGHLY 4000 HIGH-PRESSURE LIGHTS WITH L.E.D. STREETLIGHTS. TO IMPROVE SAFETY, PROVIDE ENHANCED LIVABILITY, PREVENT CRIME. THE EFFORT CAME TO THE FOREFRONT BECAUSE WHEN I ARRIVED FIVE YEARS AGO AND THEN SHORTLY AFTER MIKE AND DEREK CAME, WE VERY QUICKLY OBSERVED IN TRYING TO DEVELOP COMMUNITY DEVELOP WHERE WE HAD DARK AREAS IN THE COMMUNITY. THIS BECAME PRIORITY ONE FROM DAY ONE. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN COST PROHIBITIVE TO DO IN ONE AND GO. SO WE SPREAD OUT THE EXPENSE OVER A FIVE-YEAR PERIOD. THIS HIGHLIGHTS THE TOTALITY OF THIS EFFORT. IT IS ROUGHLY 1.25 MILLION. THE FIRST COUPLE OF YEARS THE FUNDING CAME FROM THE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. AND THEN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR THAT WE ARE IN IS WELL AS THE NEXT TWO YEARS, WE ANTICIPATE GETTING MONEY FROM THE UTILITY DEBT CAPACITY FUND. SO TO COINCIDE WITH THE FIVE-YEAR FUNDING STRATEGY WE DEVELOPED FIVE PHASES. PHASE ONE, AS I STARTED
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TO ALLUDE TO, WE STARTED THE REPLACEMENT OF THE HIGH-PRESSURE SODIUM LIGHTS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH AEP. THE FIRST PHASE WAS ROUGHLY 2000, WE FOCUSED ON THE SOUTHERN PART OF OUR COMMUNITY. THAT TOOK PLACE IN 2022. PHASE TWO WAS THE NORTHERN HALF OF THE COMMUNITY AND THAT ALSO WAS IN A PARTNERSHIP WITH AEP. TO REPLACE OVER 2000 LIGHT FIXTURES. YOU CAN KIND OF GET A SENSE, I WILL NOT GO THROUGH THE WEEDS BUT YOU CAN GET A SENSE ON SOME OF THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT. YOU MAY OR MAY NOT BE AWARE THAT THE STRUCTURE FOR OUR STREETLIGHTS IS TECHNICALLY OWNED BY AEP.AND WE SIMPLY PAY FOR THE USAGE OF THEM. SOME COMMUNITIES ACTUALLY OWN AND MAINTAIN STREETLIGHTS . WE DO NOT. IT IS AEP. WHEN THEY ARE OUT WE HAVE TO REPORT THAT TO AEP. NOW, NOT ALL THE LIGHT FIXTURES ARE CREATED EQUAL. I WILL DIGRESS FOR A SECOND BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME LIGHT FIXTURES THAT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR. THEY TYPICALLY HAVE STEMMED FROM TXDOT. WHEN TXDOT BUILDS PROJECTS ON THE ROAD, THE MEDIAN, OR ON THE PARKWAY, THE LOOP, WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE. BUT THE VOLUME OF THE LIGHTS THAT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR DO NOT SORT OF MERIT HAVING ANY SPECIFIC OPERATION TO MAINTAIN THEM.
TYPICALLY WE OUTSOURCE THEM WHEN YOU NEED ARISES. THE MAJORITY OF THE LIGHTS ARE OWNED BY AEP OR VEC. WE WILL GET TO THAT AND I APOLOGIZE FOR DIGRESSING BUT I REALIZED HALFWAY THROUGH THIS IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT FOR FOLKS THAT ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE SETUP. SO, PHASE THREE, THE ONE WE ARE ACTUALLY IN RIGHT NOW. IT IS THE AGREEMENT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT. IT IS THE AGREEMENT WITH VICTORIA ELECTRIC CO-OP TO CONVERT 159 LIGHTS TO THE NEW LIGHT FIXTURES. BY FAR THE MAJORITY OF THE LIGHTS IN THE COMMUNITY ARE OWNED AND MAINTAINED BY AEP. A SMALL PERCENTAGE THAT IS OWNED AND MAINTAINED BY VICTORIA ELECTRIC CO-OP. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A CONSISTENT FEEL AROUND TOWN AND THIS IS THE NEXT STEP IN THE EFFORT. THIS YEAR AS WELL WE BEGIN THE PROCESS OF ASSESSING WHERE WE MIGHT HAVE SOME DARK SPOTS. WE HAVE HIRED TANGO LIGHTING TO HELP US UNDERSTAND NOW THAT WE REPLACED THE LIGHTS AND WE ARE BEGINNING TO REPLACE THE LIGHTS, WE CAN GET A BETTER PICTURE AS TO WHERE IT IS STILL TOO DARK. PREVIOUS TO THIS EFFORT WE JUST HAD A LOT OF LIGHTS THAT WERE OUT. SO NOW THAT WE HAVE LIGHTS THAT ARE WORKING IT MAKES SENSE, NOW WE CAN GET A SENSE OF WHERE THEY ARE STILL DARK AREAS.
ULTIMATELY IN PHASES FOUR AND FIVE, FISCAL YEARS 25 AND 26, WE TRY AND ADDRESS THOSE AREAS. WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME NEIGHBORHOODS FOR EXAMPLE THAT DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY STREETLIGHTING AT ALL. I THINK CASTLE HILLS IS THAT WAY. AND SO WE NEED TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS AROUND WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO ACTUALLY HAVE STREETLIGHTS IN SOME NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WERE NEVER BUILT PROPERLY. I SHOULD NOT SAY THAT. WERE NOT BUILT WITH THE CONSIDERATION OF STREETLIGHTS, TO THE EXTENT THAT MAYBE THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN. NOW WE ARE TRYING TO GO BACK AND RECTIFY THAT. ANYWAYS, THAT IS THE ONGOING PROCESS OVER THE NEXT TWO DISCAL YEARS.
FY 25, WE WILL CONFIRM UNDER LIT NEIGHBORHOODS AND DEVELOP A PLAN, AS WELL AS IMPROVE THE EXISTING LIGHTS. WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN FY 25 IS THROUGH TREE TRIMMING. YOU WOULD BE SURPRISED THE BIG DIFFERENCE IT MAKES TO JUST HAVE PROPERLY TRIMMED TREES THAT SURROUND THE LIGHT FIXTURES AND THE DIFFERENCE IT MAKES TO THE WAY THAT THEY LIGHT THE STREET OR THE AREA. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS ALSO IMPORTANT TO US GOING THROUGH THIS EXERCISE THAT WE OBSERVED A FEW YEARS AGO WAS THAT OVER THE YEARS, FOR WHATEVER REASON, WHEN SOME LIGHTS WERE PUT UP OR SOME REPLACED, IT WAS NOT A CONSISTENT FEEL. IF YOU DRIVE DOWN THE VARRO, MAIN STREET, YOU MIGHT SEE A LIGHT FIXTURE THAT IS 10 FEET, YOU MIGHT SEE ONE THAT IS FIVE FEET, 15, IT IS ALL OVER THE PLACE. WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE WE TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE BEAUTIFICATION ASPECT AND MAKE SURE THAT THE FIXTURES ARE THE SAME, THE SAME SIZE AND LENGTH. AND HELP WITH THE CONSISTENT. THAT IS THE ONGOING EFFORT IN PHASE FOUR. IN PHASE FIVE, WHICH IS FY 26, THAT IS WHEN WE HOPEFULLY FIGURE OUT THE PLAN TO INSTALL THE ADDITIONAL LIGHTS THAT NEED TO BE INSTALLED. AGAIN, OVER THE FIVE-YEAR PERIOD WE WOULD EXPAND $1.25 MILLION AND THE GOAL ALSO AS I MENTIONED EARLY ON, IMPROVE PUBLIC SAFETY,
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PREVENT CRIME, PROMOTE COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, CONSERVE ENERGY BECAUSE THE L.E.D. LIGHTS ALSO PRODUCE AN ENERGY SAVING FOR US. PREVENT LIGHT POLLUTION AND ENHANCED LIVABILITY. I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT ANYBODY MIGHT HAVE. A SUPER QUICK RECAP ON THIS EFFORT, AND AGAIN THE AGENDA ITEM TONIGHT IS THE AGREEMENT WITH VEC.>> ONE QUESTION I HAVE IN JULIE, SORRY TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT IF I REMEMBER QUICKLY, THE DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT WE RECENTLY DID, IT HAS SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS THAT ALL THE LIGHTING DOES MATCH WHAT WE ARE DOING NOW. CORRECT?
>> YES, SINCE 1992 IT HAS BEEN A STANDARD IN THE CITY ORDINANCE THAT FOR NEW SUBDIVISIONS, THE LIGHTS HAVE TO BE PLACED EVERY 300 FEET. WE HAVE SO MANY DEVELOPERS THAT
WERE DEVELOPED BEFORE 1992. >> RIGHT, OKAY, GOOD, THANK
YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> HAVE A QUESTION. SORRY.
>> DO NOT APOLOGIZE. >> LOOKING AT THE DIVISION, THE 250 K, EACH FISCAL YEAR, I SEE THERE IS SOME VARIANCE FROM THAT. IS THAT ANALYSIS , DOES THE ANALYSIS THAT WE DID FALL UNDER THAT? THE ANALYSIS THAT WE ARE PLANNING TO DO REGARDING THE UNDER LIT AREAS, AND WILL THAT -- THE COST OF THAT?
>> I DO NOT REMEMBER THE COST OF THE ANALYSIS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. I AM NOT SURE THERE IS A COST RIGHT NOW ACTUALLY. I WOULD HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT. BECAUSE FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, TANKO LIGHGHTING WILL DO THE ASSESSMENT IN ANTICIPATION OF US WORKING WITH THEM WITH THE DESIGN TO ACTUALLY BUILD OUT THE OTHERS. OFTEN TIMES THE COMPANIES COME IN AND DO THE ASSESSMENTS AT A ANIMAL CHARGE OR FREE OF CHARGE IN HOPES THAT THEY JUST GET THE JOB LATER. RIGHT? I WOULD HAVE TO CONFIRM THAT. MY INITIAL INSTINCT IS THAT THAT IS WHAT
THIS STRUCTURE IS. >> I ASSUME THAT THEY WOULD NOT FINISH THE ANALYSIS UNTIL VEC COMPLETED THE PROCESS.
>> RIGHT, THEY STARTED IN SOME PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY, BUT
RIGHT, YES. >> OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. AND WITH THAT THEN I WILL ACCEPT ANY MOTIONS WITH RESPECT TO ITEM E1.
>> I MOVED TO ADOPT. >> SECOND.
>> I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT ITEM E1. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ITEM E ONE PASSES. MOVING ONTO
[2. Award the Pleasant Green Drive Reconstruction Project (Juan Linn to Po...]
ACTION ITEM E 2. >> AWARD THE PLEASANT GREEN DRIVE RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT TO NEW STOUT EXCAVATING GROUP, TEXAS LLC OF SAN ANTONIO, TX IN THE AMOUNT OF $949,313.96 .
WHICH IS JUAN LINN TO PORT LAVACA DRIVE.
>> REDEEMING. BEFORE I BEGIN WITH THE POWERPOINT, THE SLIDESHOW. I WANT TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BACKGROUND FOR THE TWO NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS. THE PROJECT WAS NOT ORIGINALLY IN THE FY 23-24 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. LAST FALL WITH THE DETERIORATING CONDITION OF THAT STREET , CITY STAFF BECAME AWARE OF THE DETERIORATING CONDITION OF THAT SEGMENT OF PLEASANT GREEN. AND AT THE DECEMBER COUNCIL WORKSHOP WE PRESENTED A FLYOVER VIDEO OF THAT STREET AND COUNCIL APPROVED THAT WE ADD THIS INTO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. THE PROJECT WILL CONSIST OF A COMPLETE RECONSTRUCTION OF THE STREET DOWN TO THE SUBGRADE WITH LIME STABILIZATION, GEO-GRID, LIMESTONE BASE, TYPE B HOT MIX, AND TYPE D HOT MIX AS THE SURFACE COURSE. WE WILL ALSO REPLACE THE EIGHT INCH WATER LINE THAT RUNS BETWEEN JUAN LYNN AND DELMAR. THERE IS A LINE THAT WILL BE REPLACED FROM DELMAR TO THE RAILROAD TRACK. WE RECEIVED THREE BIDS FOR THE PROJECT. NEW STOUT EXCAVATING GROUP IN TEXAS, OUT OF SAN ANTONIO, PROVIDED THE LOW BID OF $949,313. THE OTHER TWO BIDS WERE FROM CLARK CONSTRUCTION OF TEXAS AND LESTER CONTRACTING.
EACH ONE OF THOSE WAS APPROXIMATELY $1.5 MILLION. NEW STOUT EXCAVATING WAS UNDER THE ESTIMATE BY ABOUT $300,000.
WHEN THESE PRICES WERE REVEALED TO US WE HAD SOME QUESTIONS, WE REQUESTED A LIST OF REFERENCES FROM THE CONTRACTOR. WE CALLED MULTIPLE REFERENCES. EVERYBODY HAD GOOD SAY. ONE OF
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THE REFERENCES WAS A CONTRACTOR, A BUILDING CONTRACTOR OUT OF -- WHO I PERSONALLY HAVE HAD PROJECTS WITHIN THE PAST. I HAVE USED THEM FOR SOME SITE WORK ON PROJECTS AND THEY GAVE THEM A GLOWING RECOMMENDATION. THAT KIND OF THING WENT A LONG WAY FOR ME. WE ALSO ASKED THEM TO COME TO VICTORIA WITH , TO HAVE A SIT DOWN MEETING WITH US. WE ASKED ABOUT THEIR PRICES. HOW COME THEY WERE SO LOW COMPARED TO THE OTHER TWO BIDDERS? WHAT THEY SAID THAT IS IN SAN ANTONIO HAVE TO BE AGGRESSIVE LIKE THAT TO GET A PROJECT. AND WE SAID WELL, THANK YOU, WE LIKE TO SEE THOSE KIND OF NUMBERS.CALENDAR DAYS FOR CONSTRUCTION BUT THEY PROPOSE THAT THEY COULD DO IT IN 109. WE ASKED ABOUT THAT. AND ACTUALLY THE COMPANY OWNER LOOKED AT HIS SCHEDULER AND SAID NORMALLY HE IS THE GLOOM AND DOOM GUY. IF HE THINKS IT IS GOING TO BE DONE IN THAT TIME, WE WILL GET IT DONE IN THAT AMOUNT OF TIME.
THE LOCATION OF THE STREET SECTION IS JUAN LINN TO PORT LAVACA DRIVE. THE PROPOSED SCHEDULE ON THIS WOULD BE IF WE CAN AWARD THE CONTRACT TO NEW STOUT EXCAVATING THIS EVENING, WE WOULD HAVE CONTRACTS EXECUTED BY THE END OF THIS MONTH. THE CONTRACTORS PROPOSED A SCHEDULE WHERE THEY WOULD BEGIN WORK SHORTLY AFTER THE FOURTH OF JULY. AND THEY WOULD EXPECT TO BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF SEPTEMBER OR EARLY OCTOBER.
>> ANY QUESTIONS? >> NO, IT IS REFRESHING THAT WE HAVE SOMEONE FROM OUT OF TOWN . PEOPLE DO NOT REALIZE THAT SOMETIMES YOU ONLY HAVE ONE BED FROM IN TOWN. THIS IS A BIG
DEAL. THANK YOU. >> WE DISCUSSED THAT A COUPLE MONTHS AGO ON A PROJECT . IT IS VERY NICE TO SEE SOME COMPETITION IN THE MARKET. I THINK IT IS GOOD FOR EVERYBODY.
THAT IS A REFRESHING SURPRISE.
EYES ANYWAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
>> I MOVE THAT WE ADOPT E 2. >> SECOND.
>> I HAVE EMOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ITEM E 2 PASSES. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. >> AS APRIL -- NO, GO FOR IT.
[3. Appoint a City Council member to the Victoria Sales Tax Development Co...]
>> WE WILL MOVE ON THEN TO ITEM E 3.
>> APPOINT A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER TO THE VICTORIA SALES TAX DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THE RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, IT IS TO APPOINT ONE COUNCIL MEMBER TO THE VICTORIA SALES TAX BOARD OF DIRECTORS. THE VACANCY IS DUE TO THE MAYOR BEING ELECTED . THAT IS WHY IT DOES HAVE TO BE A COUNCIL MEMBER. THE TERM WOULD ACTUALLY END IN DECEMBER OF 2024. THOSE ARE TWO YEAR TERMS BUT IT IS AN UNEXPIRED TERM AT THIS POINT. IT WOULD JUST BE FOR A FEW MONTHS AND THEN OF COURSE SOMEONE ELSE CAN BE APPOINTED IN DECEMBER. OR THAT PERSON COULD BE REAPPOINTED. SO, JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THE TERM LIMITS OF THIS, THE MAYOR SERVED FOR THE DURATION OF HIS TERM AS MAYOR. THE DIRECTORS MAY NOT SERVED FOR MORE THAN THREE CONSECUTIVE TWO YEAR TERMS NO MATTER IF THEY ARE COUNCIL MEMBER OR CITIZEN. THEY ARE TO SERVE THREE TERMS AT THE MOST. FORMER DIRECTORS ARE NOT ELIGIBLE TO SERVE AGAIN UNTIL AFTER ABSTAINING A MINIMUM OF ONE YEAR FROM THE DATE OF THE TERM YEAR EXPIRATION. DIRECTORS ORIGINALLY APPOINTED TO FILL A VACANCY FOR PARTIAL TERM MAY SERVE THREE FULL POSITIONS IF THE VACANCY IS LESS THAN 12 MONTHS. THIS DOES HAVE LESS THAN 12 MONTHS. ONLY SIX MONTHS ARE LEFT. SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE RUSSELL AS PRESIDENT, JPS VICE PRESIDENT, A CITIZEN REPRESENTATIVE AND SHERRY, AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER LOFFGREN SERVES AND THEN MAYOR CROCKER SERVES ON THE BOARD. WE ARE HERE TO APPOINT ONE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER TO THE BOARD, TO SERVE, TO FILL THE VACANT POSITION. THAT WILL END IN DECEMBER OF 2024. SHORT AND SWEET.
A LOT WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND WORKS CLOSELY WITH OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY MANAGER.
>> THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? >> NO. THAT I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE COUNCILMEMBER BUTLER IF SHE WOULD SO FOR THE VACANT
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>> HE DID NOT EVEN GET A CHANCE TO ACCEPT IT.
>> I KNOW, RIGHT? MY GOODNESS.
>> THAT'S WHAT WE DO TO THE NEW PEOPLE.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR MISS BUTLER.
>> THANK YOU. >> ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT?
>> ANY OTHERS? >> ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS?
>> CERTAINLY, ARE THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? SEEING NONE.
WE WILL VOTE ON THE MOTION BEFORE US. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE ALL OPPOSED? VERY WELL. MS. BUTLER, WELCOME. ALL RIGHT.
[F. City Manager Reports:]
MOVING ON TO CITY MANAGER REPORTS.>> OKAY, WE DO HAVE A COUPLE THIS EVENING. BEFORE I GET TO THAT I WANT TO FOLLOW-UP ON A QUESTION ON THE AGENDA ITEM EARLIER. THE TIME I GOT BACK TO MY SEAT I HAD TWO MESSAGES. THE AGREEMENT WITH TANKO IS A VALUE OF UP TO $25,000. SO THERE YOU
GO. >> THAT IS A QUICK FOLLOW-UP.
LAUGHTER ] >> I AM IMPRESSED. IN ANY CASE, THE FIRST UPDATE THAT WE HAVE THIS EVENING IS FROM OUR CHIEF APPRAISER KERI WICKLIFFE. I HOPE I PRONOUNCE THAT RIGHT.
>> YES. >> YES. THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE PROJECT SHE HAS
SPEARHEADED FOR THE DISTRICT. >> WELCOME.
>> THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. SO OUR LEASE IS EXPIRING IN JANUARY OF 2026. WE UNDERSTAND IT IS THAT COUNTY'S GOAL TO MAKE IT A COMPLETE HEALTH FACILITY. WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AND IT IS MYSELF AND COUNCILMEMBER SCOTT, AND COMMISSIONER -- HAVE BEEN WORKING TO FIND A STRUCTURE WE CAN PURCHASE AND REMODEL, ATTENTIVELY SPACE TO LEASE AND REMODEL, OR TO BUILD. THIS IS KIND OF A SYNOPSIS OF THAT AND WHAT WE HAVE FOUND SO FAR. WE ARE DEFINITELY OPEN TO ANY IDEAS OR SUGGESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE WITH LOCATIONS. AS YOU KNOW A REMODEL AND CONSTRUCTION ARE BOTH HIGHLY EXPENSIVE CURRENTLY. RIGHT NOW WHAT SPEARED ALL OF THIS WAS THE EXPIRATION OF OUR LEASE COMING UP IN 2026. WE KNOW IT WILL TAKE APPROXIMATELY 12 MONTHS TO REMODEL OR CONSTRUCT SOMETHING NEW. OF COURSE THIS COMES ON THE HEELS OF THE AUDIT THAT WAS COMPLETED LAST YEAR. THE RECOMMENDED STAFFING NEEDS ARE 30 PERSONNEL AND WE HAVE 21 CURRENTLY. HOWEVER, I AM OUT OF OFFICE SPACE WITH 21 PEOPLE. WE ARE STARTING TO HAVE TO DOUBLE UP. THE OTHER ISSUE IS BOARDROOMS. IT IS OUR GOAL TO CERTIFY BY JULY 25TH OF EVERY YEAR AND WE CURRENTLY HAVE THREE BOARDROOMS. ONE IS SOMEONE'S OFFICE THAT WE HAVE MOVED THEM FROM TO BE ABLE TO HOST THREE PANELS IN ORDER TO TAKE CARE OF IT , IN THE EFFICIENT TIME MANAGEMENT. RIGHT NOW WE ARE LEASING APPROXIMATELY 9500 SQUARE FEET. OF THAT SPACE OF APPROXIMATELY 8700 IS USED FOR OFFICES AND STORAGE. WE HAVE STARTED DIGITIZING FILES IN HOPES TO ALLEVIATE SOME SPACE NEEDS WE ARE RUNNING INTO. AND AS WE LEARN NOTHING HAS BEEN DIGITIZED SINCE 1980. SO WE ARE DIGITIZING OLD PROPERTY CARDS, PROTEST FILES, EVERYTHING WE ARE REQUIRED TO KEEP FOR RECORDS MANAGEMENT WHICH IS ABSORBING A LOT OF SPACE IN THE CURRENT FLOOR PLAN. THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT PRIOR TO EVEN CONSIDERING CONSTRUCTION OR ANYTHING ELSE WAS THAT WE LOOKED AT LEASING SPACE FROM THE COUNTY AT THE ADVOCATE BUILDING. OUR BIGGEST CONCERNS WERE THERE WAS NOT A FULL FLOOR THAT WE COULD OCCUPY. THEY WOULD SPLIT THE OFFICE INTO TWO, THE MAJOR CONCERN TO MYSELF IS THE PARKING SITUATION. WE WOULD HAVE OUR OVER 65 DISABLED PERSONS, VETERANS, ALL HAVING TO TRACK A BLOCK OR MORE TO GET TO US. I DID NOT FEEL THAT THAT WAS APPROPRIATE. WE WANT TO BE ACCESSIBLE TO TAXPAYERS, FOR SURE. WE ALSO LOOKED AT LEASING SPACE AT THE OLD WAX LOCATION. APPROXIMATELY 15,000 SQUARE FEET IS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT. WHEN I WENT OUT TO GET AN ESTIMATE FOR REMODEL THEY TOLD ME IT WOULD BE $5 MILLION. I NEARLY FELL OUT OF MY CHAIR. AND THE BRENDON THAT IS LOOKING AT $15 A SQUARE FOOT FOR THE OFFICE SPACE. AND THEY WOULD, THEY SAID THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO GET RENT OR 3% YEAR-OVER-YEAR, WHICH WILL BE HARD FOR US TO BUDGET IF WE ARE LOOKING AT THE MARKET RENT SITUATION. SO THAT DID NOT SEEM COST-EFFECTIVE WITH THE TAX DOLLARS WE ARE USING. THIRD, WE LOOKED AT LEASING SPACE FROM THE NORTH CAMPUS. IT WOULD NEED TO BE REMODELED. THEY INDICATED WHAT THEY WERE CURRENTLY LEASING THE PARKS AND WILDLIFE WAS ANYTHING FROM $17-$18 A SQUARE FOOT BUT WITH UPPER MARKET RENT RATES. THAT IS WHAT THEY EXPECTED US TO PAY. SPACE AVAILABLE BECAUSE ENROLLMENT IS DOWN BUT WHEN ENROLLMENT TAKES OFF WE WOULD BE BACK TO LOOKING
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FOR A NEW SPACE. WE LOOKED AT LEASING SPACE AT LAURENT TOWER AND NEVER GOT ANY INFO BACK FROM THE OWNER AND WHAT THE REJECTED COST WOULD BE FOR US TO RENT THERE. AND THEN WE LOOKED AT RENTING FROM ENTITIES AND PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS AND WHAT WE HAD THE MOST RESPONSE ON WAS PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS. MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS YOU ARE TALKING TRIPLE NET LEASE AND PAYING PROPERTY TAX AND INSURANCE AND EXPENSES AS WELL.WE ARE TAX EXEMPT IF WE OWN IT. IT DID NOT SEEM LIKE A GOOD USE OF FUNDS. SO THIS IS THE INITIAL DESIGN THAT WE CAME UP WITH WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE LOCATION. ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE HAD FROM TAXPAYERS IN THE PAST IS BY HAVING THE THIRD PANEL IN THE OFFICE AREA IT PUTS THE ARB NEAR THE STAFF AND WE ARE TWO SEPARATE ENTITIES. WE WOULD LIKE ARB TO BE SEPARATE AND MORE ACCESSIBLE TO THE TAXPAYERS WITHOUT HAVING TO WALK THROUGH THE INNER PORTION OF THE OFFICE WHERE WE HAVE CONFIDENTIAL DOCUMENTS AS WELL.
WE WOULD LIKE THE ARB TO BE SEPARATE UPFRONT. WE WOULD ALSO LIKE THE BOARD ROOM TO BE LARGE ENOUGH THAT WE COULD HOST OUR OWN EDUCATION, JUST FOR THE FACT THAT IT IS MORE COST-EFFECTIVE. IT COST ABOUT $10,000 AND APPRAISER TO GET THEM TRAINED AS AN APPRAISER. AND THEN YOU HAVE THE TRAVEL EXPENSES AND THE FOOD AND LODGING ON TOP OF THAT. SO THE ORIGINAL COST DESIGN FOR THE CONSTRUCTION WAS 9 1/2 MILLION.
FROM RMA, WHERE WE GOT THE BID FROM, THEY ALSO DID THE REMODEL BID. THE PROPOSED SITE WOULD NEED TO BE ROUGHLY TWO ACRES AND ANYTHING WE HAVE LOOKED AT SO FAR HAS BEEN $330,000 TO HALF 1 MILLION. OUR GOAL IS IF WE ARE GOING TO CONSTRUCT SOMETHING THEN IT IS OUR LONG-TERM HOME AND WE DON'T NEED TO RELOCATE. WE HAVE RELOCATED TWICE IN THE PAST FOUR YEARS. THAT WOULD BE THE GOAL IF WE END UP BUILDING. THE EXTERIOR OPTIONS IF WE CHOSE CONSTRUCTION WOULD BE THE STILL ENGINEERED BUILDING. WE WOULD WANT TO DRESS UP THE FRONT THAT BASED THE ROAD BUT THE REST WOULD BE WHAT IS MOST COST-EFFECTIVE IN REENGINEERED. THE GOAL IS ADEQUATE LOBBY SPACE FOR TAX PAYERS, FLEXIBLE MEETING SPACE. IF WE HOSTED EDUCATION SEMINARS HERE, SINCE WE ARE THE BIGGER COUNTY, OTHERS WOULD SEND THEIR EMPLOYEES TO US TO OFFSET SOME EDUCATION BUDGET THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. AND OF COURSE WORKSPACE FOR 30 EMPLOYEES WITH ROOM TO GROW. MY GOAL ON TWO ACRES WOULD BE IF WE EVER HAD TO ADD SPACE WE WOULD STAY IN THE LOCATION AND ADD AND NOT HAVE TO LOOK FOR A NEW BUILDING. SO ALL OF THIS STEMS FROM OUR AUDIT RESULTS ON HOW MUCH SQUARE FOOTAGE THEY SAID WE NEED HER STAFF MEMBER AND THAT WE HAD ALREADY REACHED CAPACITY. WE ARE BEGINNING TO REACH THOSE NUMBERS AND AGAIN THE NUMBER OF BOARDROOMS IS THE PROBLEM RIGHT NOW. I COULD EASILY RUN FIVE PANELS EVERY DAY BUT I DON'T HAVE THE SPACE. AND PATTY DODSON FOR THE MOST PART HAS BEEN VERY ACCESSIBLE. THE BIGGEST ISSUE WE RUN INTO IS WHEN THERE IS AN ELECTION. THE ONLY OTHER SPACE WE CAN USE IS USED FOR THE ELECTION. SO YOU KIND OF LOSE THAT. ESPECIALLY IN A YEAR LIKE THIS YEAR WHERE WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF ELECTIONS AND STILL WANT TO GO. SO PURCHASING A BUILDING AGAIN WOULD MINIMIZE OUR NEED FOR THE STAFF TO TRAVEL. IT WOULD REDUCE THE BUDGET BURDEN LONG-TERM ONCE WE PAID OFF THE NOTE. TO THE MAINTENANCE BUDGET. SO, AGAIN THE SITES I HAVE LOOKED AT HAVE BEEN 330,000 TO HALF 1 MILLION, PLUS ANY CLOSING COSTS. THE CONSTRUCTION BID FROM RMA CAME AROUND JUST 8.9. WE WOULD GO OUT FOR BIDS. WHEN WE HAD RMA DO IT BECAUSE WE HAD NOT PICKED A SPECIFIC SITE, WE HAD THEM INCLUDE IF THERE WAS A RETENTION POND, FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE YOU KNOW THAT WE WERE ASKED FOR 150 AND WE RETURNED A LARGE CHUNK OF THAT. I AM NOT A BELIEVER IN SPENDING IT BECAUSE WE HAVE IT. I LIKE TO KEEP THE COST DOWN.
THERE ARE ONLY TWO GROUPS THAT LIVE ON CAD FINANCING. IN ORDER FOR US TO BUILD OR LEASE WE MUST HAVE THREE FORCE APPROVAL FROM THE VOTING ENTITIES. THAT IS THE CITY, COUNTY, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IN THE JUNIOR COLLEGE. THAT IS VERY SPECIFIC NEEDS FOR FINANCING AND WE CANNOT TAKE OUT THE LOAN OURSELVES. WE HAVE TO HAVE A CONDUIT. GOVERNMENT CAPITALISM IS USED TO RECOGNIZE. THIS IS THEIR LOAN TERMS. IF WE DO 20 YEARS, THE RATE IS 5.99% WITH ANNUAL PAYMENT OF $800,355. SO THAT IS NICE WITH NO PENALTIES. SO ON THIS SLIDE, WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT IS THE ALLOCATION OF MONEY FOR BOTH THE PROJECT AND THE ANNUAL PORTION OF PROJECT PAYMENT. THIS PROJECT WOULD BE
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AROUND 1.6 MILLION FOR THE TOTAL PROJECT WITH ANNUAL PAYMENT OF $141,678. WHICH IS MUCH MORE THAN WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY PAYING. AGAIN, THIS WOULD JUST BE FOR THE LIFE OF THE LOAN. THIS NEXT ONE IS WHAT IT WOULD COST US IF WE LEASED AND SPENT $5 MILLION TO REMODEL. THE BIGGEST ISSUE IS WE CANNOT TAKE OUT THE LOAN FOR REMODEL BECAUSE WE DON'T OWN IT, SO WE WOULD BE AT THE MERCY OF THE LANDLORD TO PAY THAT.EVERYONE WE HAVE SPOKEN TO SAYS THE INTEREST RATE WOULD BE PRIME +1, WHICH IS A LITTLE STOUT. THE ANNUAL LEASE PAYMENT WOULD BE 204,356 DOLLARS. IF WE LEASED FOR 7.8 YEARS WE COULD ALREADY PAY OFF THE BUILDING. THE CURRENT VERSION PAID BY THE CITY ANNUALLY FOR OUR LEASE IS $25,152. IT IS AN INCREASE. WE UNDERSTAND THAT. AGAIN, WE ARE HAPPY TO TAKE AND ENTERTAIN ANY IDEAS AND STILL RESEARCH. BUT WITH THE LEASE IS EXPIRING IN JANUARY OF 2026, WE KNOW IT IS TIME TO START LOOKING BECAUSE IT WILL TAKE PROBABLY 12 MONTHS TO PURCHASE OR REMODEL ANYTHING. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS?
>> WHO SEARCHED ? DID YOU HAVE A REAL ESTATE AGENT SEARCH WITH
>> NO. FOR A BUILDING. OR A VACANT LOT.
>> BOTH. WE HAD A REALTOR AND IN-HOUSE WE LOOK. ANYTHING WE KNEW WAS CURRENTLY FOR LEASE OR FOR SALE, WE HAD CONSIDERED. WE ALSO HAD A MEETING WITH ALL ENTITIES BACK IN JANUARY AND PUT IT IN THE FOREFRONT OF WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE. DOES ANYBODY HAVE A SPACE THAT THEY WOULD LIKE US TO CONSIDER OR THEY KNOW IS GOING TO BE VACANT THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY LEASE FROM AN ENTITY? AT THE END OF THE DAY LEASING FROM ANOTHER ENTITY IS FAR MORE COST-EFFECTIVE THAN IT IS FOR ME TO BUILD OR REMODEL SOMETHING ELSE. BUT, IF AT THE END OF THE DAY THERE IS NO SPACE TO GO, IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR THE CAD TO PURCHASE OR REMODEL A BUILDING THAT THEY WOULD OWN AT THE END OF THE DAY. OR TO OWN THE NEW
CONSTRUCTION. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
>> I AM SORRY. I THINK YOU MENTIONED, AND I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS, BUT FOR THE SAKE OF COUNCIL, THE CAD CANNOT OWN A BUILDING THAT IS BIGGER THAN WHAT WE NEED FOR THE PURPOSE OF RENTING IT OUT TO MAKE INCOME TO OFFSET . IS THAT
CORRECT? >> CORRECT. WE CANNOT LEASE TO ANYONE ELSE TO ABSORB THE INCOME. THERE IS A LOT OF
>> YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP ME WITH THIS BUT REGION THREE WITH THE MOVE OUT, WILL THAT BUILDING BE AVAILABLE?
>> THE REGION THREE ON LEARY LANE? IT IS AVAILABLE. BUT IT IS 40,000 SQUARE FEET. SO WE WOULD HAVE 50% OF IT AS DEAD SPACE. WE HAD CONSIDERED OR HAD BEEN ASKED TO CONSIDER POTENTIALLY PURCHASING IT IN CONJUNCTION WITH ANOTHER ENTITY. THE BIGGEST CONCERN THERE IS ACCESS. IT IS A VERY NARROW STREET AND IN BETWEEN TWO SCHOOL ZONES. ALSO THE PARKING SITUATION. WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THE OTHER 50%, IF TWO ENTITIES GO IN AND BUY IT TOGETHER, YOU THEN NEED TWO BOARDS TO APPROVE MODIFICATIONS TO THE PROPERTY.
>> DO YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO LEASE THE PORTION YOU ARE NOT
USING? >> NO. I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO
LEASE IT OUT TO ANYONE ELSE. >> GOTCHA. THAT SEEMS LIKE A VERY GOOD OPTION VERSUS $10 MILLION.
IN MY MIND. EVEN WITH LIMITED ACCESS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE A VERY GOOD OPTION THAT PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE EXPLORED A LITTLE FURTHER. I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION. WAS THERE A DISCUSSION WITH THE COUNTY AT ALL OR HAS THERE BEEN A DISCUSSION ABOUT STAYING WHERE YOU ARE? AND JUST MAKING YOUR FOOTPRINT LARGER. IS THE COUNTY ABSOLUTELY SAYING YOU ARE OUT.
>> THEY ARE NOT ABSOLUTELY SAYING WE ARE OUT BUT ALLUDED TO THE FACT THAT THAT IS THERE GO LONG-TERM AND THEY WOULD ALLOW US TO STAY AS LONG AS NECESSARY. YESTERDAY WHEN I SPOKE WITH THE COMMISSIONERS IT CAME UP THAT MAYBE THEY WOULD RECONSIDER. THE REMODEL COST IS PRETTY LARGE IN THIS DAY AND
AGE. >> I WOULD HOPE THAT WOULD BE
EXPLORED FURTHER. >> I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH ONE COMMISSIONER YESTERDAY AFTERNOON. I KNOW THAT THEY ARE BRAINSTORMING IF THEY CAN MOVE TENANTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE TO ANOTHER LOCATION. OR EVEN, YOU KNOW, THERE IS PROBABLY 1200 SQUARE FEET IN MY OFFICE RIGHT NOW OCCUPIED BY OLD FILES THAT I HAVE TO DIGITIZE BEFORE I CAN DESTROY.
WE HAVE STARTED WORKING ON THAT PIECEMEAL. BUT I THINK THAT WAS $90,000, THAT WAS THE EXPENSE TO DIGITIZE 100% OF EVERYTHING I NEEDED DIGITIZED. SO I HAVE SOME STAFF DOING IT AND THEN WE
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HAVE RCI DOING SOME FILES THAT THEY CAN DO THAT WOULD NOT COST AS MUCH, SO WE CAN MAYBE MAKE SPACE IN THE CURRENT SPACE TO STAY THERE. OR AGAIN TRYING TO ABSORB SOMEBODY ELSE'S SPACE.THE BIGGEST REASON I AM GOING UP IS TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT I HAVE TO FIND A NEW HOME IF WE CANNOT WORK SOMETHING OUT WITH THE COUNTY, AND TO DO ANY OF THIS AGAIN REQUIRES THREE FORCE APPROVAL BY RESOLUTION. BEFORE I START SENDING RESOLUTIONS AND SAY HEY, CAN YOU HELP US OUT? I WANTED TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION AND MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION AS MANY TIMES AS NECESSARY SO THAT WE CAN HOPEFULLY COME TO SOMETHING THAT IS COST EFFECTIVE FOR US ALL. WE KNOW AT THE END OF THE DAY WE ARE DEALING WITH ENTITY MONEY THAT COMES FROM THE TAXPAYERS AND WANT TO BE AS CONSCIENTIOUS AS POSSIBLE WITH THOSE TAX DOLLARS.
>> WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU DO NOT GET THE THREE FORCE APPROVAL?
WHAT ARE YOUR OPTIONS? >> I CANNOT MOVE. WE CANNOT MOVE, LEASE WITH AL THREE-FOURTHS APPROVAL. -- WITHOUT THREE-FOURTHS APPROVAL.
>> IT IS A TOTAL OF NINE ENTITIES.
>> NINE ENTITIES AND SIX SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
>> THERE ARE SEVERAL SCHOOL DISTRICT IN THE COUNTY.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
>> I WAS SIMPLY GOING TO ADD FOR CONTEXT, I'M SURE SOME OF YOU MIGHT BE THINKING IT. WELL WHY WOULD THE COUNTY NEED THE SPACE? AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS PROJECTING GROWING OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS AS THEY ENHANCE THEIR OPERATION. THEY ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF APPLYING FOR SOME FEDERAL GRANTS THAT WILL ALLOW THEM TO INCREASE SERVICES THAT THEY OFFER THE PUBLIC. SO THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS DRIVING THIS BEHIND THE SCENES. THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS LOOKING TO EXPAND OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS TO ENHANCE THEIR SERVICE OFFERINGS DUE TO GRANTS THAT THEY ARE PURSUING. THAT IS WHY THE SPACE IS QUOTE UNQUOTE NEEDED BY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT TRYING TO RELOCATE SOME EXISTING TENANTS. AND I THINK
THAT CONTEXT IS IMPORTANT. >> YES. THEY ARE NOT JUST KICKING US OUT FOR THE SAKE OF KICKING US OUT. PARKS AND WILDLIFE LEFT LAST JUNE AND THAT SPACE WAS REMODELED FOR ANOTHER GROUP INSIDE THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. AND THEY ARE GOING TO OUTGROW IT VERY QUICKLY IS WHAT THEY NOW FIGURED OUT AFTER THE REMODEL. THEY ARE TRYING TO SHARE COMMUNAL SPACES. I THINK IT IS JUST THE TRIFECTA. WE HAVE BEEN THERE A LITTLE OVER 20 YEARS. WE WERE OVER ON NORTH STREET THAT 20 YEARS BEFORE THAT WITH THE EXISTENCE OF THE CAD IN 1980. WE HAVE BEEN THERE A LONG TIME AND I THINK IT SOME POINT WE KNEW WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO RELOCATE. WE JUST HOPED IT WAS NOT IN THE PEAK OF
SUPPLY PRICES AND INFLATION. >> OUR WHOLE PROCEDURE IN DOING THIS AND RELOCATING IS ALL PLAYED OUT IN STATE LAW. IT IS VERY STRUCTURED AND AGAIN ULTIMATELY WE WOULD NEED THE VOTES OF THREE QUARTERS OF THOSE PARTICULAR ENTITIES. PART OF THE REASON WE ARE DOING THESE DISCUSSIONS AS IF THERE DOES NOT SEEM TO BE THAT SUPPORT THEN SHE COULD BE DOING OTHER THINGS WITH HER TIME. AND WE CAN TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN DO BUT WE CANNOT MOVE WITHOUT THE APPROVAL. SO CERTAINLY COUNCIL WOULD BE INVOLVED AT LEAST UNTIL THAT POINT. AND THERE IS ALSO SOME STRICT TIMELINES ON WHEN SHE DOES ASK FOR THE RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT. IT IS JUST ALL, THERE
IS A LOT OF RULES. >> I AM GLAD TO HEAR THAT THERE IS CONTINUING DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COUNTY. OBVIOUSLY $10 MILLION OF TAXPAYER MONEY IS $10 MILLION OF TAXPAYER MONEY THAT WE COULD ALL PUT TO OTHER USES. IF THERE IS A VIABLE SOLUTION. CERTAINLY I HOPE THAT THE COUNTY WILL DO ALL THAT IT CAN TO LOOK AT THAT EITHER IN THAT BUILDING, IN THE ADVOCATE BUILDING, YOU KNOW, AND SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT IS SHORT OF WHAT THIS BURDEN IS GOING TO DO. HAVE YOU TALKED WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD YET?
>> WELL I HAVE NOT DONE THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING BUT I HAVE SPOKEN WITH THE INTERIM SUPERINTENDENT AS WELL. HE AND I KICKED AROUND SOME POTENTIAL LOCATIONS. THE ONES WE LOOKED AT, THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS THERE IS 64 PARKING SPOTS. IF I AM GOING TO HAVE 30 EMPLOYEES AND CURRENTLY HAVE 10 MEMBERS, I SEE 116 TAXPAYERS A DAY IN MY OFFICE. AGAIN THE PARKING ISSUE WAS A CONCERN THERE. THE OTHER REASON WE ARE OUT TALKING WITH THE ENTITIES IS IF YOU KNOW OF A BUILDING WE HAVE NOT THOUGHT
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OF WE ARE HAPPY TO CONSIDER IT. I ONLY KNOW WHAT I KNOW AND A LOT OF REAL ESTATE TRANSACTIONS HAPPEN BY WORD OF MOUTH. YOU KNOW SOMEONE IS LOOKING TO SELL BEFORE IT HITS THE MARKET AND THOSE OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE ARE INTERESTED IN HAVING. WE WANT TO BE AS EFFECTIVE AS WE CAN BE WITH OUR BUDGET.>> GOTCHA. IF THE COUNTY IS TRULY NOT KICKING YOU OUT IT WILL BE HARD FOR ME TO SAY YES, SURE, LET'S GO SPEND 10 MILLION. SO LET'S KEEP THE DISCUSSIONS GOING AND LET ME KNOW IF I CAN IN ANY WAY HELP OR FACILITATE THAT. I AM MORE
THAN HAPPY. >> IS THE COUNTY KICKING THE
ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT OUT? >> NO, BUT THEY ARE COUNTY
ENTITIES. >> BUT THEY COULD GO IN THE
ADVOCATE BUILDING. >> THE ELECTIONS CANNOT BECAUSE THEY ARE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND THE OFFICE THING IS IN THE ADVOCATE BUILDING, MR. CLOUD, AND JEANNIE MORRIS HAD THE OFFICE THERE. I DO NOT KNOW IF THE OFFICE WILL REMAIN OR NOT.
>> AND I THINK YOU HEARD HER MENTION THAT THE COUNTY IS LOOKING AT RESHUFFLING OFFICE LOCATIONS. THAT IS PART OF THAT. SO WHAT OFFICES THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE, ONE OF THEM COULD BE RELOCATED TO THE OLD ADVOCATE.
>> EXACTLY. >> AND I HAD MY MEETING WITH THE COUNTY YESTERDAY. I CERTAINLY WALKED AWAY FROM THAT RELATED TO THIS TOPIC UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY ARE FULLY EXPLORING ALL AVENUES AND OPTIONS TO TRY AND KEEP THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT AND SOME COUNTY PROPERTY. KEEP IN MIND THAT FROM THE COUNTY PERSPECTIVE, I HAD NOT THOUGHT OF THIS UNTIL THE JUDGE POINTED IT OUT, IT IS A DOUBLE WHAMMY IMPACT FOR THEM. NOT ONLY WOULD THEY BE ON THE HOOK FOR FINANCIALLY CONTRIBUTING TOWARDS A NEW BUILDING, BUT THEY LOSE THE REVENUE THEY ARE GETTING FROM THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT. SINCE IT IS A SEPARATE ENTITY AND NOT JUST THE DEPARTMENT. SO IT BEHOOVES THEM TO ENSURE THAT THEY CAN DO EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO EXPLORE OPTIONS. I CERTAINLY WALKED AWAY FEELING LIKE THEY ARE CERTAINLY DOING THAT.
>> THE COUNTY HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL IN MAKING US REASSURED THAT WE ARE NOT KICKING YOU OUT. WE JUST HAVE GOT TO FIND A SOLUTION. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM SINCE THE FALL TO TRY TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION AS WELL WITH THE COUNTY PROPERTY.
>> VERY GOOD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS. WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO KEEP THEM GOING.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT CITY MANAGER'S REPORT IS FROM OUR VERY OWN JULIE FULGHAM WHO WILL PRESENT THE CDBG 2024 ANNUAL ACTION PLAN PROPOSED BUDGET AND
FUNDING RECOMMENDATIONS . >> JUST AS A REMINDER, THIS IS OUR RECOMMENDATION PRESENTED TO COUNCIL TO GET SOME FEEDBACK.
WE HAVE TO SPEND THE REST OF THE SUMMER ACTUALLY DRAFTING THE PLAN AND GETTING IT READY TO SUBMIT TO HUD FOR FINAL APPROVAL. THIS IS THE 2024 AND WILL ACTION PLAN WHICH COINCIDES WITH OUR FISCAL YEAR 2025. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ALWAYS MAKES IT EASY ON US. IS THE LAST ANNUAL ACTION PLAN OUT OF OUR 2024 CONSOLIDATED PLAN, OUR FIVE-YEAR PLAN. NEXT YEAR WE WILL BE DOING A LOT OF PUBLIC INPUT AND OUTREACH TO DRAFT OUR NEW CONSOLIDATED PLAN. SO ALSO A LITTLE BIT OF A HISTORY LESSON, WE ARE CELEBRATING 50 YEARS OF THE CDBG PROGRAM. THE CITY OF VICTORIA HAS NOT BEEN AN ENTITLEMENT CITY FOR ALL THOSE 50 YEARS. WE BECAME THE ENTITLEMENT CITY IN 1990. WE BECAME ENTITLED TO RECEIVE THE GRANT IN 1990 WITH THE 1990 CENSUS. TO BECOME AN ENTITLEMENT CITY YOU HAVE TO HAVE A POPULATION THRESHOLD OF 50,000 WHICH WE HIT IN THE 1990 CENSUS. BY THE TIME THE PAPERWORK ALL GOT SIGNED IT WAS ABOUT 1992, 1993 WHEN WE RECEIVED OUR FIRST CDBG GRANT.
>> PREVIOUS TO THAT IT DID GO TO THE COUNTY. OR NO? NOBODY
WOULD GET IT? >> NO. NOBODY IN THE COMMUNITY
>> THERE IS DIFFERENT RULES FOR THE COUNTY. FOR THE CITY IT IS 50,000. I AM NOT WELL VERSED ON WHAT THE COUNTY RULES ARE. SO WHAT IS CDBG? IT IS THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FROM HUD TO ASSIST IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF VIABLE COMMUNITIES. TO REDUCE POVERTY AND ITS EFFECTS, BY PROVIDING QUALITY HOUSING, CREATING A SUITABLE LIVING ENVIRONMENT AND EXPANDING ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES. THE FUNDS HAVE TO MEET NATIONAL OBJECTIVES. WHICH IS HELPING LOW TO MODERATE INCOME INDIVIDUALS. EVERY YEAR WE HAVE THIS TIMELINE AND THESE ARE THE SPECIFIC DATES FOR THIS YEAR.
OF COURSE NEXT YEAR WILL BE DIFFERENT BECAUSE AS I MENTIONED IT WILL BE THE FIVE-YEAR PLAN. BUT ALL OF THE ANNUAL ACTION PLANS, THE FALL OF THE FIVE-YEAR PLAN EVERY FIVE YEARS FOLLOWS THIS ROUGH TIMELINE. IN MARCH WE HAVE THE PRE-APPLICATION WORKSHOP AND THEN WE OPEN UP THE REQUEST FUNDING APPLICATION WHERE THE ENTITIES SUBMIT THAT FORM. AND
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WE CAN TALK TO THEM AND GET THE IDEA OF WHAT THE PROGRAM IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR PROGRAM CAN MEET THE NATIONAL OBJECTIVES. YOU KNOW FEDERAL MONEY IS FEDERAL RULES. WE HAVE TO FOLLOW ALL OF THE CODE OF FEDERAL REGULATIONS AS IT PERTAINS TO FUNDING OUT THESE FUNDS. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S APPLICATION IS VIABLE AS POSSIBLE. SO WITH THAT INTENT TO REQUEST FUNDING, THAT OPENS A DIALOG WITH THE DIFFERENT AGENCIES FOR US. THEN WE OPEN THE APPLICATION AND THEY HAVE A MONTH TO COMPLETE IT. THEN WE DO THE REVIEW AND COME TO COUNCIL , THE FIRST MEETING IN JUNE, TWO LET YOU KNOW OUR FUNDING RECOMMENDATIONS. IF WE GET A HEAD NOD THEN WE GO TO WORK. I AM ACTUALLY WRITING THE ACTUAL ANNUAL ACTION PLAN, SCHEDULED TO BE APPROVED TO YOU ON AUGUST 6TH OF THIS YEAR. WE HAVE STATUTORY DEADLINE OF AUGUST 16TH, TO SUBMIT TO HUD. AND THE FUNDS ARE THEN ABLE TO BE EXTENDED AFTER OCTOBER 1ST. IT RUNS THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. OUR FUNDING DID DECREASE A LITTLE. YOU KNOW I MENTIONED THE 90S AND THOSE WERE THE GOOD OLD DAYS WHEN WE GOT 2 MILLION OR $3 MILLION. IS REALLY EASY TO FUND WOMEN'S SHELTERS AND WHATNOT. UNFORTUNATELY OVER THE PAST DECADE OR SO WE HAVE SEEN OUR FUNDING KIND OF STAY AT THE HALF $1 MILLION MARK. WE RECEIVED 551,000 OUR ADMINISTRATION IS 20%. THAT STATE PAYS FOR STAFF AND ALL ADMIN REQUIRED OF THE GRANT.FOR OUR DEMOLITION PROGRAM, WE ARE ALLOCATING 25,000, LOWER THAN WHAT WE NORMALLY DO. BUT WE HAVE SOME UNEXPENDED FUNDS FROM PREVIOUS YEARS TO MAKE OUR OVERALL DEMO BUDGET. TO MAKE IT HEALTHY. THIS YEAR WE ARE COMPOSING A PARKS PROJECT, WHICH IS ADDING LIGHTING AND SIDEWALKS AT THREE PARKS.
RONSON, PINE, AND MEADOW LANE. A TOTAL COST OF 95,000. AND THEN PUBLIC FACILITIES AND SERVICES, AS A REMINDER THOSE ACTIVITIES ARE CAPPED AT 15% BY HUD. SO THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO BE LOW TO MODERATE INCOME IN OUR COMMUNITY. OF COURSE THIS IS A SLIDING SCALE BASED ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN A HOUSEHOLD. 100% MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME FOR A FAMILY OF FOUR IS 88,300. THESE LIMITS WENT INTO EFFECT ON THE FIRST.
SO THE RECOMMENDED FUNDING FOR PUBLIC FACILITIES , THIS PART IS NOT CAPPED AND THIS IS WHERE WE USUALLY HAVE A STRUCTURE TYPE PROJECTS, THINGS THAT HAVE A LASTING IMPACT. FOR THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB THEY ARE PROPOSING A COMPLETE REROOF OF THEIR FACILITY, 57,000. HOME OF JOSEPH, A NEW YOUTH GROUP HOME, THEY ARE FUNDING , REQUESTING FUNDING OF 30,000. WE ARE RECOMMENDING ONLY 15,000. THE ORIGINAL REQUEST INCLUDED A GAIT FOR SECURITY, LIGHTING, AND SKIPPING, GUTTERS. WE ARE ONLY PROPOSING TO PAY THE SECURITY PORTION AND NOT FOR THE LANDSCAPING OR THE GUTTER WORK. THE HOSPICE OF SOUTH TEXAS HAS, WANTS TO DEVELOP A LAUNDRY ROOM. MY MIND WAS KIND OF BLOWN WHEN THEY TOLD US THAT THEY ACTUALLY DO NOT HAVE A LAUNDRY FACILITY ON SITE. THEY HAVE TO SEND EVERYTHING OUT.
THAT REALLY IMPACTS THEIR OPERATIONS. THE ORIGINAL REQUEST FOR $20,000. BUT WE CAN ONLY FUND OR PROPOSING TO FUND 15,500. PART OF THE ORIGINAL REQUEST INCLUDED THE ACTUAL LAUNDRY MACHINES. THAT IS CONSIDERED AN ASSET FOR CDBG FUNDING, WHICH WE DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO TRACK ASSETS OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF VICTORIA ORGANIZATION. SO THAT REDUCTION IS THE ENTIRE COST OF BUILDING THE ROOM OUT MINUS THE EQUIPMENT. MEALS ON WHEELS IS PROPOSING A PARKING LOT AND EXTERIOR LIGHTING FOR 15,000. MIDCOAST FAMILY SERVICES , YOU HEARD JEANNIE SPEAK, AND WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING. THAT IS FOR 99,907. AND EVEN THOUGH THAT IS A KITCHEN AND LAUNDRY FACILITY, IT IS JUST TO GET THE STRUCTURE THERE. IT DOES NOT INCLUDE APPLIANCES OR LAUNDRY APPLIANCES. THE SALVATION ARMY IS ALSO PROPOSING A KITCHEN EXPANSION AND REQUESTED 60,000.
WE HAD TO REDUCE IT TO 35. WE ELIMINATED THE KITCHEN APPLIANCES AND THE ROOM WILL BE READY FOR THEM TO PURCHASE THE APPLIANCES WITH OTHER FUNDING. AGAIN, THOSE ARE ASSETS. AND THE YMCA CHILDCARE PLAYGROUND , THEY REQUESTED 62,000 AND WE ARE NOT RECOMMENDING FUNDING THEM BECAUSE THE PLAYGROUND IS THE ASSET. WE HAVE BEEN VERY CLEAR WITH ALL ENTITIES THAT
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JUST FUNDING ASSETS IS NOT SOMETHING IN OUR CAPACITY BECAUSE WE HAVE TO TRACK THE WAY THE GRANT MAKES ITS TRACK OF THE LIFE OF THE ASSET, THAT ONGOING PAPERWORK THAT ISREQUIRED YEAR OVER YEAR. >> COULD YOU GO OVER A COUPLE THINGS BEFORE YOU LEAVE THAT SLIDE FOR ME, PLEASE?
>> CAN YOU MAKE SURE TO SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE?
>> YES. THE ACRONYMS NOW AND LMI.
>> MEALS ON WHEELS, AND LOW TO MODERATE INCOME. INDIVIDUALS.
>> THANK YOU. >> SO WHEN YOU SAY LIKE THE PLAYGROUND IS AN ASSET, HELP ME OUT. I AM LOOKING AT IF WE ARE ADDING A LAUNDRY ROOM. IS THAT PART OF THE BUILDING THAT WE ARE ADDING ONTO THE BUILDING? THAT IS NOT CONSIDERED AN
ASSET? >> CREATING THE ROOM AND DOING THE ELECTRICAL IN THE PLUMBING AND ADDING THE FLOORING.
>> WE ARE IMPROVING THE EXISTING STRUCTURE. OKAY.
>> RIGHT. AND THE STRUCTURES ARE NOT ACTUALLY CONSIDERED ASSETS THAT WE HAVE TO TRACK. ASSETS ARE PLAYGROUNDS.
>> THE WASHER AND THE DRYER. >> THE WASHER AND DRYERS, THE APPLIANCES ARE THE ASSET FOR THE GRANT. SO YES, IF IT WAS A ROOM REMODEL WE COULD EASILY FUND THAT AND HAVE ACTUALLY FUNDED THOSE IN THE PAST. THESE ARE THE PUBLIC-SERVICE ACTIVITIES. WE RECEIVE A VERY LARGE AMOUNT OF REQUESTS.
UNFORTUNATELY WE ARE CAPPED AT 15% SO I ONLY HAVE 80 SOMETHING THOUSAND EIGHT YEAR TO GIVE OUT. THESE ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY, JUST THE WAY THE HUD RULES ARE, WE UNFORTUNATELY HAVE TO SPREAD THAT SORT OF THING. SO -- HAS THE DIMENSION PROGRAM. WE ARE RECOMMENDING 5000 . THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB AFTERSCHOOL SUMMERCAMP IS RECOMMENDED AT 8000. OUR COMMUNITY ACTION COMMITTEE FOR THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, WE ARE RECOMMENDING 16,500. THEY ALSO HAVE A SENIOR CARE SERVICES PROGRAM. WE ARE NOT RECOMMENDING FUNDING FOR THAT THIS YEAR. BECAUSE WE TALK TO THEM AND THE NEED FOR MENTAL ASSISTANCE WAS SO MUCH HIGHER THAT RATHER THAN SPLITTING RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND HAVING ALL THAT MONEY SPENT IN JUST ONE OR TWO MONTHS, WE FUNDED BOTH OF THEIR PROGRAMS INTO THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE AFTER A DISCUSSION WITH THEM. THE FOOD BANK, MEALS ON WHEELS, I AM SORRY, THE KIDS BACKPACK PROGRAM IS RECOMMENDING AT 10,000. GOLDEN CRESCENT, VOLUNTEERING FOR EVERY CHILD IN NEED FOR TRAINING IN COUNSELING AND ALL OF THEIR ACTIVITIES AT 8000. AND THEN THE WELLNESS COMMUNITY AT 10,000. AND THERE IS ANOTHER SIDE. I WILL ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS ON
THESE ACTIVITIES. >> WHO OWNS THE BOYS AND GIRLS
DISTRICT. THE LATEST EMAIL. >> I'M JUST CURIOUS.
>> THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB IS ITS OWN ENTITY.
>> BUT WHO OWNS THE LAND IT IS ON?
>> YES. SO WE ARE STILL TRYING TO CLEAN THAT UP.
>> OKAY. SO YOU DO NOT HAVE AN ANSWER.
>> NO. THERE IS CONFLICTING INFO ON THAT.
>> ALL RIGHT. >> SO THE REST OF THE PUBLIC SERVICE ACTIVITIES, MEALS ON WHEELS, THE HOME DELIVERY PROGRAM IS 5000. A VERY BRAND-NEW ORGANIZATION AND THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE GRANT IS THEY HAVE THE CASH ON HAND FOR THE AMOUNT THEY ARE BEING GRANTED. THIS IS A REIMBURSABLE GRANT. THEY HAVE TO SPEND ALL THE FUNDS AND THEN GET REIMBURSED. SO PART OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS IS THAT ALL THE ENTITIES HAVE TO SUBMIT THEIR FINANCIALS WITH US. SO THEY DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH FUNDS TO COVER THE GRANT ACTIVITY THAT THEY WERE PROPOSING. SO WE DO NOT RECOMMEND THIS YEAR BUT HOPEFULLY , WHEN I SAY THEY ARE BRAND-NEW, I THINK THERE ARE THREE OR FOUR MONTHS IN EXISTENCE. HOPEFULLY NEXT YEAR THEY WILL BE SUCCESSFUL WITH FUNDRAISING AND BE ABLE TO APPLY. OUR LADY OF VICTORY, ST. VINCENT DE PAUL SOCIETY IS RUNNING A UTILITY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM AT 5000. THE SALVATION ARMY, THE COMMUNITY TRANSIT AND TAX ASSISTANT PROGRAM, 5000.
UNITED WAY OF THE CROSSROADS, 5000. AND THEN BS I.D. KIDS CONNECTION IS BACK AND WE RECOMMEND 5000 FOR THEM. YOU CAN SEE THE REQUESTS WERE VERY LARGE AND WE HAD A LOT OF ENTITIES REQUEST THIS YEAR. MORE SO THAN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS. SOME THAT HAVE COME BACK THAT HAVE FALLEN OFF FOR A FEW YEARS. OUR REQUESTED AMOUNT OF FUNDING WAS 243,000. BUT WE ARE
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LIMITED TO THE 15% MAX BY HUD, WE CAN ONLY GRANT OUT 82,000.SO THIS PROPOSAL IS TO GRANT OUT THE 82,000.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE I AM NOT SURE HOW THIS ALL FITS TOGETHER. YOU MADE A COMMENT ABOUT RENTAL ASSISTANCE. IS THAT A DIFFERENT PART OF THE GRANT?
>> YES. NO, THAT IS PART OF THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMITTEE. THEY ARE OPPOSING TO RUN THE PROGRAM AND WE RECOMMENDED FUNDING AT
>> SO IF COUNCIL IS IN AGREEMENT WITH THESE, THIS PROPOSAL, THEN WE CAN GO BACK TO OUR OFFICE AND START WRITING THE AND WILL ACTION PLAN. IT TAKES PRETTY MUCH ALL SUMMER.
OUR PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, WE WILL HAVE A DRAFT PUBLISHED JULY 5TH FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. ALTHOUGH IT WILL BE A ROUGH DRAFT AT THAT POINT. AND WE ARE PROPOSING COUNCIL APPROVE IT FOR AUGUST 6TH. AND THEN SUBMIT TO HUD BY NO LATER
THAN AUGUST 16TH, 2024. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. IN LOOKING AT THIS, TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES IS SOMETHING THAT IS LISTED AS ELIGIBLE FOR THIS TYPE OF GRANT FUNDING. IS THERE ANY PROPOSED ALLOCATION IN THE ENTITLEMENT PIECE OF IT THAT MAYBE WE ARE MISSING MORE I AM MISSING, WHERE SOMETHING WOULD BE UTILIZED FOR EQUIPMENT OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
>> I WILL HAVE TO GO INTO LOOK AT THE SPECIFICS WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC SAFETY OR , PUBLIC SAFETY CAN BE LIGHTING AND WHATNOT. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT LIKE POLICE AND FIRE?
>> SPECIFICALLY FIRE EQUIPMENT IS LISTED AS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE UTILIZED THROUGH THIS GRANT. I AM JUST CURIOUS IF IN ADDITION TO THOSE AWARDS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT, IF THERE IS A , IF IT IS ALLOCATED IN ONE OF THE DIFFERENT AREAS, IN THE BUDGET WHERE WE WOULD LOOK AT POTENTIALLY BY YOUR EQUIPMENT IS SOMETHING WE WOULD UTILIZE THE GRANT FOR.
>> THOSE FUNDS ARE GENERALLY COMING FROM THE GENERAL FUND.
AND THIS FUNDING IS MEANT MORE, IT HAS GENERALLY BEEN ALLOCATED MORE BY COUNCIL TO HELP OUT MORE LMI INDIVIDUALS.
>> THANK YOU. SO THEN I BELIEVE THAT THAT CONCLUDES THE CITY MANAGER REPORT. AND I UNDERSTAND WE WILL HAVE AN
EXECUTIVE SESSION. >> YES, SIR. YES, SIR.
LAUGHTER ] >> VERY GOOD. WILL THEN WE WILL TAKE A 10 MINUTE BREAK. AND THEN WE WILL ADJOURN INTO, OR
[H. Executive Sessions:]
WE WILL TAKE A 10 MINUTE BREAK AND THEN WE WILL RECONVENE INTHE EXECUTIVE SESSION. >> CITY COUNCIL WILL RECESS FOR THE EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 6:13. SUBJECT MATTER IS AS
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