Oct 02, 2023 City Council

[A. CALL TO ORDER]

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>> GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR MONDAY

OCTOBER 2ND, 2023. >> COUNCILMAN DELAGARZA. >> PRESENT.

>> COUNCILMAN. >> SOLIZ. >> HERE.

>> COUNCIL WOMAN SCOTT. >> HERE. >> LOFGREN.

>> HERE. >> EVERYONE PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE FOLLOWED BY A MOMENT OF

SILENCE. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDERGOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE. TEXAS, ONE STATE, UNDER GOD, ONE AN INDIVISIBLE.

>> THANK YOU. >> GOOD EVENING MS. LACEY.

[1. Announcements/Reminders:]

>> YES, WE DO. >> HEY!

>> YES, WE HAVE MRS. LACEY AND MR. RAINEY HELPING US OUT.

>> THAT'S ALL RIGHT. I GET LOST AT THE CORNER OVER HERE. THE MOST IMPORTANT I THINK IS THAT WE HAVE THE BOOK OF THE CIP, 24, 25 AND 26.

IT IS THERE AND IT IS ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.

TAKE A LACK AT IT AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT MORE LATER.

ANOTHER ANNOUNCEMENT IS THE CITY OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED ON MONDAY, OCTOBER 9TH IN OBSERVANCE OF THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE DAY, IE, COLUMBUS DAY. GO FIGURE.

AND OFFICES WILL RE-OPEN ON TUESDAY OCTOBER 10TH.

TUESDAY OCTOBER 3, WILL BE NIGHT OUT AROUND THE CITY.

WE ENCOURAGE THE CITY TO ATTEND THE BLOCK PARTY TO GET TO KNOW YOUR NEIGHBORS. VICTORIA POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL BE RECOGNIZING THE NATIONAL COFFEE WITH A COP DAY ON WEDNESDAY OCTOBER 4TH FROM 7:30 TO 9:30 A.M. AND IN THE COURTYARD. JOIN US FOR PASTRIES FOR DONUTF IT. YOU CAN GET A FRESH CUP OF COFFEE. THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WILLY BEHOLDING THE PIER PREVENTION AT THE FINE ARTS CENTER.

ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICE AND THE [INAUDIBLE] WILL BE HOSTED ON SATURDAY OCTOBER 21ST FROM 9 UNTIL 11 A.M.

ALL RESIDENTS CAN REQUEST ASSISTANCE BY CALLING 361-485-3230. VOLUNTEERS CAN SIGN UP AT THE KEEP VICTORIA BEAUTIFUL WEBSITE , VICTORIATX.GOV.

REGISTRATION IS NOW OPEN FOR THE 23 CHRISTMAS -- I WENT TOO FAST. HOLD ON A SECOND, PARADE OF LIGHTS. TO SIGN UP, VISIT VICTORIATX.GOV/REGISTRATION. SPACE IS LIMITED AND THE DEADLINE TO REGISTER IS NOVEMBER 1ST.

COMMUNICATION, THE CITY OF VICTORIA COMMUNICATION AND PUBLIC OF OFFICE AFFAIRS IS ACCEPTING APPLICATIONS FOR THE 24 CITIZENS ACADEMY. RESIDENTS ARE ENCOURAGED TO APPLY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AT VICTORIATX TKPWO*T/-- VICTORIATXG OV. AND LASTLY THE CITY OF VICTORIA WILL BE HOSTING THE COMMUNITY RESOURCE FAIR IN HONOR OF THE COMMUNITY MUNICIPAL COURT WEEK ON WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 8TH.

ORGANIZATIONS INTERESTED IN ATTENDING THE RESOURCE FAIR CAN SIGN UP AT VICTORIATXGOV/ RESOURCE FAIR.

NO EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION, EXCEPT ME.

[a. National 4-H Week Proclamation. Jeff Bauknight, Mayor]

>> WITH THAT WE HAVE SOME PROCLAMATIONS.

WILL YOU HELP US OUT WITH THE PROCLAMATIONS FOLLOWED BY THE

KVB AWARD. >> WE ARE HAPPY TO AWARD THE AGRI LIFE EXTENSION SERVICE FOR 115 YEARS OF PROVIDING EXCELLENT-SPACED EDUCATION TO STUDENTS THROUGHOUT THE LONE STAR STATE. THE ADMIRABLE PROGRAM SEEKS TO PROVIDE A LEARNING EXPERIENCE FOR THE WHOLE CHILD INCLUDING HEAD, HEART, HANDS AND HEALTH HELPS YOUNG TEXANS TO DEVELOP

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IT IS MORE THAN 550,000 URBAN, SUBURBAN AND RURAL YOUTH PARTICIPANTS FROM 8 TO TPHAEUPB TEEN AND COMING FROM DIVERSE ECONOMIC BACKGROUND AND REPRESENT A CROSS SECTION OF THE STATE. AND WHEREAS THE PROGRAM UNDOUBTEDLY COULD NOT HAVE ACHIEVED THE SUCCESS IT HAS WERE IT NOT FOR THE SERVICE OF MORE THAN 22,000 VOLUNTEERS THAT HAVE GIVEN GENEROUSLY OF THEIR TIME, TALENTS AND ENGINES AND RESOURCES TO THE YOUTH OF TEXAS AND WHEREAS THROUGHOUT ITS PROUD HISTORY THE 4H PROGRAM HAS DEVELOPED ROLE MODELS AND THROUGH THE INSPIRING PROGRAMS CONTINUES TO BUILD CHARACTER IN AND STILL THE VALUE THAT'S HAVE MADE OUR STATE STRONG AND GREAT. AND THEREFORE THE CITY OF VICTORIA, TEXAS DECLARES OCTOBER 1ST THROUGH 7TH, 2023 TO BE NATIONAL VICTORIA WEEK AND GIVE THE AGRI LIFE EXTENSION SERVICES AND THE MANY MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE

MADE THE PROGRAM A SUCCESS. >> THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS PAGE NELSON WITH THE 4H YOUTH DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM. I AM THE 4H EXTENSION AGENT IN VICTORIA COUNTY. HAVE I BEEN HERE FOR OVER EIGHT YEARS. AND SO WE ARE SO EXCITED ABOUT NATIONAL 4H WEEK. THIS IS OUR WEEK THAT WE BASICALLY SAY THANK YOU AND BRING AWARENESS TO 4H, ALL OF OUR DONORS AND SPONSORS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS, YOU GUYS THOSE FAMILIAR WITH THE 4H PROGRAM, WE THANK YOU FOR BEING OUR ADVOCATE AND SPREADING THE WORD ABOUT 4H.

I HAVE OUR SENIOR AMBASSADOR AND A FEW ARE MISSING DUE TO SPORTS. I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE THEM.

THEY ARE OUR FACE OF THE 4H PROGRAM AND THEY PROMOTE THE 4H PROGRAM AND THEY LEAD THE 4H PROGRAM AND THEY ARE THE VOICE OF 4H PROGRAM. I WANT TO INTRODUCE THE GUYS I HAVE HERE AND THEY HAVE A COUPLE WORDS TO SAY.

IF Y'ALL WILL STAND UP, I'LL INTRODUCE YOU.

IT WILL BE HARD, ABOUT YOU WE WILL START IN THE BACK WITH LANEY AIKEN NOAH, LEVI, PAYTON, ABBIE NUNEZ, AMREY, THOMAS, LAYTON, CODY NUNEZ AND TRAVIS. SO THEY WILL GIVE AN INTERPRETATION OF OUR PROGRAM AND OUR GOALS F FOR THIS YEAR.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. MORE THAN 6 MILLION YOUNG PEOPLE ACROSS THE COUNTRY WILL BE CELEBRATING NATIONAL 4H WEEK. IT IS A CELEBRATION OF 4H HELD THE FIRST FULL WEEK OF OCTOBER. THIS IS A WEEK THAT OUR YOUTH SHOWCASE THE GREAT THINGS THAT 4H OFFERS YOUG PEOPLE AND HIGHLIGHTS THE INCREDIBLE YOUTH IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO WORK EACH DAY TO MAKE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY.

>> NATIONAL 4H WEEK IS ALSO A WEEK THAT WE RECOGNIZE OUR VOLUNTEERS, SPONSORS, DONORS AND SUPPORTERS.

WE KNOW OUR PROGRAM WOULD NOT FUNCTION WITHOUT THE TIME, DEDICATION AND PASSION OF THESE HARD-WORKING INDIVIDUALS IN OUR

COMMUNITY. >> THE 4H PROGRAM HAS 15 DIFFERENT COMMUNITY AND PROJECT CLUBS ACROSS THE COUNTY FOR YOU TO BE A PART OF. SOME OF THE MAJOR PROJECTS PARTICIPATE IN OUR SHOOTING SPORTS, LIVESTOCK AND FOOD AND NUTRITION AND OUTDOOR EDUCATION AND LEADERSHIP.

>> LAST YEAR WE HAD OVER 500 ACTIVE 4H MEMBERS AND HUNDREDS OF VOLUNTEERS. OUR GOAL AS AMBASSADORS IS TO CONTINUE TO INCREASE OUR MEMBERSHIP EVEN MORE FOR THE NEW 4H YEAR AND CONTINUE TO SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT 4H AND

ALL IT HAS TO OFFER. >> SO AGAIN, THANK Y'ALL FOR HAVING US AND DECLARING THIS WEEK AS NATIONAL 4H WEEK.

WE HAVE A THANK YOU AND SOME GOODIES WE HOPE YOU WILL ENJOY THROUGHOUT THE WEEK. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.

>> THANK YOU. >> [APPLAUSE]

>> THANK Y'ALL FOR THE GOODIES. WE DO APPRECIATE THAT.

[b. October 2023 Keep Victoria Beautiful Business Beautification Award. Ch...]

>> GOOD AFTERNOON MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

BEFORE WE GIVE OUR BEAUTIFICATION AWARD I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT WHAT MR. RAYMOND SAID ABOUT THE OCTOBER 21ST NEIGHBORHOOD CLEAN UP THAT IS COMING UP AND IT IS A GREAT DEAL OF FUN. AND WE HAVE A LOT OF FOOD.

WE START WITH DONUTS AND WE END WITH HOT DOGS.

YOU CAN'T BEAT THAT. GOOD COMMUNITY WORK AND HELPING OUT THE RESIDENTS. I WILL INTRODUCE MEREDITH, OUR CHAIR FOR THIS COMMITTEE AND THE CHAIR FOR KEEP VICTORIA

BEAUTIFUL. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND GOOD

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ACTUALLY BEFORE I GET STARTED I WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND A BIG THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO CAME OUTLAST MONTH AND HELPED WITH OUR FALL SWEEP. IT WAS A HUGE SUCCESS.

WE GOT A LOT OF WORK DONE AROUND THE CITY, AND IT IS AMAZING HOW FAST THAT MORNING GOES AND HOW MUCH TRASH GETS PICKED UP AND HOW BIG OF AN IMPACT IS MADE ON OUR COMMUNITY IN JUST A COUPLE OF SHORT HOURS.

ON BEHALF OF KVB I WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND THANKS TO EVERYBODY WHO CAME OUT AND SUPPORTED US THAT DAY.

TONIGHT WE ARE HERE TO AWARD THE OCTOBER BUSINESS BEAUTIFICATION AWARD TO A BUSINESS THAT HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR MORE THAN A HUNDRED YEARS.

THEY ARE LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF SAM HOUSTON AND MOCKINGBIRD SINCE 1935, SO MORE THAN 40 YEARS.

THE WINNER IS THE SAM HOUSTON TRUST AND BANK.

THEY ARE LOCATED ON A VERY VISIBLE AND BUSY CORNER RIGHT THERE WHERE MOCKINGBIRD AND SAM HUE -- HOUSTON MEET UP NEAR THE POST OFFICE AND HAL MIDDLE SCHOOL.

IT IS A BIG PIECE OF PROPERTY. IT IS A BUSY THOROUGH -- THOROUGHFARE ON BOTH SIDES. THEY HAVE STUCK WITH IT EVEN THROUGH THE EXCEPTIONAL DROUGHT THAT WE HAVE BEEN EXPERIENCING THROUGH THE SUMMER. FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE BEEN OUT ACTUALLY BY HAND WATERING THE PLANTS AND MAKING SURE THAT THINGS LOOK NICE WHICH IS A GREAT WAY TO KEEP LANDSCAPING LOOKING NICE WITHOUT WASTING WATER RATHER THAN A SPRINKLER THAT IS GOING TO LOSE A LOT TO EVAPORATION.

AS WE ALL KNOW IN CONSERVATION, HAND WATERING IS A GREAT WAY TO DO IT RESPONSIBLY.

ANYWAY, THAT BEING SAID, THEY HAVE LOOKED WONDERFUL IN SPITE OF EVERYTHING THE WEATHER HAS BEEN THROWING OUR WAY.

SO TONIGHT I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THIS AWARD TO THE SAM HOUSTON BRANCH OF TRUST TEXAS BANK.

[APPLAUSE]. >> MR. MAYOR AND FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS, I AM LARRY LAHUDNEY AND THIS IS OUR BRANCH MANAGER.

WE ARE PWRAEUT -- GRATEFUL TO THE CITY AND TO THE BEAUTIFICATION AWARD. WE DO KEEP PRIDE IN KEEPING OUR PLACE LOOKING GOOD. I TRY TO SCAN EVERY MORNING TO MAKE SURE THERE IS NO TRASH ON THE PROPERTY THAT BLOWSS IN AND WHATNOT. YES, THE DROUGHT THREW SOME CURVES LIKE SHE SAID, BUT WE ARE CONSTANTLY LOOKING AND WE ARE THANKFUL TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITIES.

THANK Y'ALL. >> THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE PRIDE. APPRECIATE IT.

[APPLAUSE]. >> I HAVE JUST ONE MORE RECOGNITION. WE HAVE TWO COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IN THE AUDIENCE AND I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

[3. Items from Council:]

>> I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS. FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY -- TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK DEPUTY CHIEF SHANNON MARTIN AND HIS STAFF FOR THE BEAUTIFUL CEREMONY THEY DID IN HONOR OF HIGH SON, GABRIEL SOLIZ.

THANK YOU, GUYS. IT WAS A GREAT HONOR AND I WAS HUMBLED. SECOND, I WANT TO SAY SPECIAL, SPECIAL, SPECIAL THANKS TO ALL THE STAFF, ESPECIALLY APRIL AND SANDRA. THEY DID AN AWESOME JOB.

WE HOSTED A CONFERENCE HERE ON FRIDAY NIGHT.

WE HAD APPROXIMATELY 140 GUESTS, AND THEY DID AN AWESOME JOB. WE ARE VERY PROUD THE WAY THEY SHOWED THE CITY OFF. I WANT TO THANK THEM PUBLICLY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> AND THANK YOU, MS. SOLIZ.

YOU FINISHED YOUR LAST MEETING AS THE REGIONAL TML PRESIDENT AND YOU REPRESENTED THE CITY OF VICTORIA VERY WELL AND THE REGION. THANK YOU FOR SERVING ON THAT.

[APPLAUSE]. >> SO SCHOOL IS BACK IN SESSION AND TRAFFIC IS CONTINUING TO BE A PROBLEM.

ESPECIALLY AT EAST HIGH SCHOOL. AT LEAST THAT'S WHERE I HAVE HEARD ABOUT IT FROM. I WOULD LAKE TO ASK FOR OUR

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DURING DROP OFF IN THE MORNING, ARE SOME CARS ARE STOPPING ON MOCKING MOCKINGBIRD. KIDS ARE GETTING OUT OF THEIR CARS WHILE THEY ARE PAUSED AND RUNNING ACROSS THROUGH TRAFFIC.

IT IS JUST NOT A GOOD SITUATION AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS GOT A PLAN FOR CARS TO BE ABLE TO PULL IN AND DROP THEIR KIDS OFF APPROPRIATELY AND PICK THEM BACK UP APPROPRIATELY AND THIS IS REALLY JUST SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY HAS TO DO SOMETHING OR WE ARE GOING TO HAVE AN ACCIDENT OF SOME SORT.

I DID MENTION TO THE POLICE CHIEF AND I DON'T REMEMBER THE DETAILS, BUT I REMEMBER YEARS AGO THEY MADE A PROHIBITION ABOUT LEFT TURNS DURING SCHOOL DROP OFF AND PICK UP.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY REMEMBERS THE DETAILS.

>> WE HAD A SIGN UP THAT WAS POSTED.

>> I DON'T THINK IT IS THERE ANYMORE.

>> IT IS THERE. IT JUST NEEDS TO BE UPDATED

WITH THE SCHOOL'S NEW TIMES. >> I APPRECIATE THAT.

WE HAVE HAD SOME CHANGES IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND SOME INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE IS HELPFUL.

I WOULD LIKE TO CALL ON ALL OF THE PARENTS TO PLEASE TRY AND BE MUCH MAURY SPOEPBSABLE AND PATIENT WITH DROPPING OFF YOUR KIDS AND DO IT APPROPRIATELY AND LET'S TRY AND STOP HAVING KIDS RUNNING ACROSS MOCKINGBIRD WHETHER THERE IS A TRAFFIC LIGHT OR NOT. THANK YOU.

>> THAT SIGN, MR. GILL, THEY HAVE TO CHANGE THEIR TIMES FOR HIGH SCHOOLS THIS YEAR SO WE NEED TO UPDATE IT.

ANY OTHER ITEMS FROM COUNCIL? WITH THAT WE WILL CLOSE THAT

[4. Citizen Communication:]

WE HAVE MR. ROSE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF JUDGE ZELLER.

IF YOU CAN LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, I AM LORI ROSE AND I WORK WITH THE VICTORIA COUNTY JUDGE'S OFFICE.

WHILE JUDGE ZELLER CAN'T BE HERE DUE TO HIS DAUGHTER'S 11TH BIRTHDAY HE ASKED ME TO SHARE A FEW THINGS ON HIS BEHALF. ON BEHALF OF JUDGE SWRELER -- ZELLER I WANT TO EXPRESS COMMISSIONER'S COURT CONTINUED SUPPORT FOR A CO-SPONSORSHIP PLAN FOR THE VICTORIA REGIONAL AIRPORT. COMMISSIONER'S COURT BELIEVES THIS STRATEGIC COLLABORATION CAN LEAD TO LASTING ECONOMIC GROWTH, ENHANCE VICTORIA'S CONNECTIVITY WITH THE REST OF NATION AND REINFORCE OUR REGION'S POSITION AS A DESTINATION FOR BUSINESS AND TOURISM.

COMMISSIONER'S COURT IS PLEASED THAT THIS CONCEPT HAS BEEN ENDORSED BY THE VICTORIA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND MANY BUSINESS AND RESIDENTS WHO WANT TO SEE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PRIORITIZED THROUGH THIS CO-SPONSORSHIP.

AFTER MONTHS OF CAREFUL CONSIDERATION, DUE DILIGENCE AND HARD WORK BY THE COUNTY AND CITY LEADERS AND MANY OTHERS, THE CITY AND COUNTY HAVE ARRIVED AT AN AGREEMENT THAT ACHIEVES THE GOAL OF A 50/50 AIRPORT CO-SPONSORSHIP STRUCTURE WITH AN INDEPENDENT AIRPORT BOARD.

THE RESOLUTION THAT ALLOWS US TO MOVE FORWARD AND START IMPLEMENTING THE PRODUCT OF THIS GOOD WORK AND PLANNING WAS APPROVED BY CHICKS -- COMMISSIONER'S COURT IN AUGUST.

AFTER COMMISSIONER'S COURT APPROVED THE FINAL PLAN IN AUGUST WHICH I BELIEVE WAS THE 10TH VERSION, THERE HAS BEEN TALK ABOUT GOING BACK TO A PRIOR VERSION OF THE PLAN THAT DOES NOT DIVIDE COSTS 50/50 AND HAS NOT BEEN AGREED TO BY BOTH THE COUNTY AND THE CITY. WHEN SOMETHING GOES WITHOUT SAYING YOU SHOULD ALWAYS SAY IT.

ANY PROPOSAL THAT DOES NOT HAVE REAL 50/50 COST SHARING ALONG WITH A TRUE 50/50 MANAGEMENT STRUCTURE IS NOT MUCH OF A 50/50 PARTNERSHIP OR CO-SPONSORSHIP AT ALL.

WORKING THROUGH MULTIPLE VERSIONS OF THE CO-SPONSORSHIP PLAN OVER MONTHS WITH YOU AND COMMUNITY LEADERS CREATED A FINAL PLAN THAT ACHIEVES THE CO-SPONSORSHIP GOALS AND THE TIME HAS COME TO MOVE FORWARD FOR MAKING PLANS AND TAKING ACTION. THE CITY HAS SHOWN COMMITMENT AND FINANCIAL SUPPORT FOR AIRPORT OPERATIONS FOR MANY YEARS AND BUILDING A VIBRANT REGIONAL AIRPORT HERE IN VICTORIA. THE COUNTY WELCOMES THOSE WHO ALSO WANT TO PARTNER IN THE AIRPORT SUCCESS.

I TRULY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION THIS AFTERNOON AND ASK THAT YOU REMEMBER ALL THE TIME AND THE

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THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

WITH THAT WE WILL CLOSE CITIZENS COMMUNICATION AND GO

[1. Approve removal of the juvenile curfew from City ordinance sections 15...]

ITEM C1. >> AS AN ORDINANCE FOR REMOVAL OF THE YOU'VE NILE CURFEW FROM CITY OR THE -- ORDINANCE TO

ALIGN WITH STATE LAW. >> CHIEF YOUNG ASKED ME TO SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT THIS ORDINANCE AMENDMENT.

HOUSE BILL 1819 PASSED DURING THE REGULAR LEGISLATIVE SESSION. THAT BILL PROHIBITED CITIES FROM ENFORCING JUVENILE CURFEWS IN THEIR ORDINANCES.

IT BECAME EFFECTIVE ON SEPTEMBER 1ST.

SO AS A RESULT OF, WE ARE NOW RECOMMENDING THAT WE REMOVE OUR CURRENT JUVENILE CURFEW LANGUAGE FROM OUR ORDINANCE TO ALIGN WITH STATE LAW. AS YOU CAN SEE THE REMOVAL OF THAT LANGUAGE IS TAKING OUT SECTIONS 15-30 THROUGH 15-34 OF

OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE. >> MS. LACEY FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE WATCHING, DOES THIS MEAN WE NO LONGER HAVE A JUVENILE

CURFEW IN VICTORIA? >> YES, MA'AM.

THAT'S CORRECT. >> THANK YOU.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> THANK YOU.

AT THIS TIME I WILL OPEN UP A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE ITEM C1.

ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK FOR ORGANS OR -- OR AGAINST OR ON THIS ITEM STEP FORWARD TO THE MICROPHONE.

SEEING NO ONE RISE UP TO SPEAK WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN ANY MOTIONS.

>> I MOVE WE ADOPT C1. >> SECOND.

>> OKAY. WE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE ITEM C1. ALL THOSE -- ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION STP -- DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I.

>> I. >> THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN.

[2. Public hearing on the City of Victoria's application to the Texas Gene...]

>> ITEM C2 IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE CITY OF VICTORIA'S APPLICATION TO THE TEXAS GENERAL LAND OFFICE FOR AN ALLOCATION FROM THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT-MITIGATION, REGIONAL MITIGATION PROGRAM.

>> GOOD EVENING MS. CONNALLY. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

THIS ITEM THIS EVENING DOES NOT REQUIRE ANY ACTION.

THE POINT OF IT IS TO MAKE CLEAR WHAT PROJECTS WILL BE INCLUDED IN OUR APPLICATION FOR THE CDBG-MIT REGIONAL ALLOCATION WE ARE GETTING, $19.5 MILLION.

MANY OF THESE PROJECTS ARE NEW TO THE CITY.

THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON AND WORKING TOWARD FOR YEARS. FRANKLY.

THE POINT BEING WE WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT WHICH PROJECTS ARE NEEDED AND HOW MUCH MONEY THEY ARE TO RUN AND HOW THEY ARE ACCOMPLISHING HASZ -- HAZARD MITIGATION IN THE APPLICATION AND ASK THE PUBLIC FOR COMMENT AT THE POINT THAT WE HAVE ALL OF THIS POSTED, WHICH WE DON'T YET AND I WILL GET TO THAT IN A SECOND. THE FIRST ONE THAT WE HAVE IS THE PUBLIC SAFETY HEADQUARTERS, JUST THE 9-1-1 DISPATCH CENTER.

IT IS ONE OF THE THREE PROJECTS THAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE APPLICATION. WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE CLEAR THAT THERE ARE VULNERABILITIES THERE.

THAT INCLUDES THE FACT THAT IT WAS AN OLD BUILDING.

IT WASN'T ORIGINALLY BUILT TO HOUSE 9-1-1 COMMUNICATIONS.

IT IS VULNERABLE BECAUSE IT IS CLOSE TO THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND POTENTIALLY IF THERE WAS A DERAILMENT OR HAZMAT OR EXPLOSION, TCO WHO WORK INSIDE THE BUILDING HAVE TO EVACUATE DURING HAZARDOUS WEATHER BECAUSE THE BUILDING IS NOT BUILT TO WITHSTAND HURRICANES OR WINDS.

WHEN THAT HAPPENS I REDUCE THE STAFF BE -- STAFFING THAT IS POTENTIAL FOR AUTOMATION. THEY ARE GOING TO BE RIGHT THERE WITH THE KPHABD -- COMMAND STAFF.

THERE ARE A LOT OF AMENITIES AND THINGS PEOPLE TAKE FOR GRANTED. IT WILL UPGRADE THE TECHNOLOGY.

RIGHT NOW IT IS ESTIMATED AT $4.1 MILLION.

THE NEXT PROJECT FOR 6 MILLION, SCATA WATER AND WASTE WATER, AGAIN, IT IS AN OLD SYSTEM. REPLACEMENT PARTS, HATCHES, THINGS LIKE THAT, REPAIRS ARE DIFFICULT AND TIME-COMSUMING.

THE COMMUNICATION AND MONITOR COULD RESULT IN HEALTH HAZARDS.

IT IS HIGHLIGHTED OF SOME THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN THE

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WE WILL HAVE A LOT OF RESILIENT SAFEGUARDS TO PROTECT THE WATER SUPPLY. THE NOTIFICATION AND RESPONSE CAPABILITIES WILL COME WITH REMOTE CAPABILITY.

IT WILL RESULT IN OVERALL IMPROVED PERFORMANCE AND OUTCOME FOR ALL OF OUR WATER PROCESSES.

NOT JUST WATER, BUT WASTE WATER AS WELL.

AND THEN FINALLY WE HAVE THE LONE TREE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS. THIS AREA HAS BEEN FLOOD PRONE FOR MANY YEARS. IT PUTS AT-RISK HOMES AND ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND QUITE FRANKLY A FIRE STATION BECAUSE THERE IS NO OUT FALL SYSTEM. THERE IS STANDING WATER DURING FLOOD EVENTS. I KNOW BECAUSE I USED TO LIVE OVER THERE AND IT POSES HEALTH RISKS.

WHAT WILL HAPPEN AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE BACKGROUND IS THERE IS A HUGE DRAINAGE DITCH ACROSS THE BACK OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE. THAT WILL REDUCE FLOOD ELEVATION LEVELS IN STANDING WATER AND WE ARE INCLUDING IMPROVEMENT OF STREETS IN THAT AREA.

THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD WILL OPEN OCTOBER 26TH AND CLOSE ON NOVEMBER 28TH. WHAT WE WILL DO IS POST A SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE APPLICATION, BUT WILL INCLUDE AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY, MAPS AND LMI BENEFIT DATA BEFORE YOU EVEN GET THERE YOU CAN SEE THE WHOLE SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE APPLICATION. THERE WILL BE SOME SUMMARY THERE AND INSTRUCTIONS OF LINKS TO WHERE TO SPEND THE COMMENT, WHICH WILL BE ME. WE'LL TAKE THEM ANY TIME.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD OPENINGS, BUT THAT'S WHEN WE NEED TO PROBABLY PROMOTE TO THE PUBLIC WE WANT TO HEAR IF YOU HAVE A COMMENT ON IT.

THAT GOES WITH OUR APPLICATION. LIKE I SAID, IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY ACTION, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL ANSWER.

>> DOESN'T HAVE ANY ACTION? WE DON'T NEED TO OPEN A PUBLIC

HEAR STPH-G. >> WE DO NEED TO OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT THERE IS NOTHING TO APPROVE.

>> THANK YOU, MS. CONNALY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR HER? NO? OKAY WE WILL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM C2. ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK ON C2 STEP TO THE MICROPHONE. SEEING NOBODY RISE UP, WE WILL

[D. Consent Agenda:]

WE WILL GO TO CONSENT UH GENERAL -- CONSENT AGENDA.

>> STAFF WOULD LIKE TO PULL ONE ITEM FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA, ITEM D. I'M SORRY.

IT IS IN THE NEXT -- IT IS IN THE E SECTION.

>> YOU NEED THE VSTBC? >> YES.

>> I WILL TELL YOU THAT THEY WILL PULL E3, RATHER.

I'M SORRY. SO THE CONSENT AGENDA, ITEM D1 IS ADOPTION OF MINUTES FOR REGULAR MEETING HELD ON SEPTEMBER 19TH, 2023. D2 IS APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO SECTION 14 -- CHAPTER 14 SECTION 14-52 ORDINANCE TO WAIVE ITINERANT VENDOR PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT. 3 IS AN APPROVE AN AGREEMENTEN TW THE CITY OF VICTORIA FOR THE REFURBISH MEANT OF A 200-4019 PIERCE AIR AIR -- ARROW PUMPER. 4 IS THE APPROVAL OF THE ANNUAL PURCHASE FOR THE UNIFORMS FROM VICTORIA FIRE DEPARTMENT FROM GALLS NOT TO EXCEED $60,000. 5 IS APPOINTING A MEMBER TO THE BOARD OF HEALTH. ITEM D6 IS THE APPROVAL OF 2023 INTERNATIONAL CV515 DIESEL TYPE 1 FRASIER BUILT AMBULANCE FROM SOUTHWEST INTERNATIONAL TRUCKS INC. OF DALLAS TEXAS IN THE AMOUNT OF $346,572.76. D7 IS A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE SELECTIVE TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM IN THE AMOUNT OF 32,484.15 WHICH REQUIRES FINANCIAL PARTICIPATION FROM THE CITY IN THE AMOUNT OF $6,517.

AND 8 IS APPROVAL OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE CANTAINERIZED

COMMERCIAL SOLID WASTE. >> I MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF CONSENT ITEMS 1 THROUGH RAY -- 8.

>> SECOND. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVAL THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.

[1. Appoint/Reappoint members to the Food Establishment Appeals Board. Apr...]

ALL IN FAVOR? >> I.

>> OPPOSED? >> AND STAFF WILL BELING E3 AND IT WILL BE BROUGHT BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING IN OCTOBER.

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ESTABLISHMENT APPEALS BOARD. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THE RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU WILL APPOINT MEMBERS TO THE FOOD ESTABLISHMENT APPEALS BOARD.

THE PURPOSE OF THAT BOARD IS TO HEAR BILLS OF DENIAL, SUSPENSION ORIE SROE -- OR REVOCATION.

THEY SERVE TWO-YEAR TERMS AND THERE IS NO TERM LIMITS.

THE BOARD IS SPECIFIC. IT IS COMPOSED OF FIVE MEMBERS AND ONE HAS TO BE AN EPIDEMIOLOGIST LICENSED UNDER THE LAW OF TEXAS AND ONE MEMBER SHOL -- SHALL BE SOMEBODY INTRINSICALLY ENGAGED IN THE FOOD SERVICE INDUSTRY, IE, AN ESTABLISHMENT OWNER OR MANAGER. ONE HAS TO BE A CONSUMER WITH NO FINANCIAL INTEREST IN FOOD SERVICE AND ONE ACTIVE IN BILLING TRADES AND THE LAST HAS TO BE A LICENSED ATTORNEY.

CURRENTLY THE POSITIONS ARE EMANUEL, RICK -- RICKY, ROLAND, JEFF IN THE RESPECTIVE FIELDS. ALL CURRENT MEMBERS WISH TO BE REAPPOINTED, BUT WE HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL APPLICATION FOR THE CONSUMER POSITION THAT WAS RECEIVED FROM SUZETTE HENRY.

THE BALLOTS WERE PLACED ON THE DO -- DIOSECE.

IF YOU WILL CIRCLE THE ONE YOU WANT TO VOTE FOR AND I WILL BE

GLAD TO COME AROUND. >> THAT WAS A 4-3 VOTE WITH MRE

POSITION OF CONSUMER. >> DO I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION?

>> I MOVE WE ADOPT THIS ITEM INSERTING MR. NICHA'S NAME.

>> I WILL SECOND. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND.

IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? THANK YOU TO BOTH APPLICANTS FOR APPLYING. APPRECIATE THE INTEREST AND THE VOLUNTEERISM TO PARTICIPATE IN COMMUNITY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVAVOR SAY I. >> I.

>> THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

[2. Nominate a candidate or candidates to serve on the Victoria Central Ap...]

E2. >> ITEM E2 IS A RESOLUTION TO NOMINATE A CANDIDATE OR CANDIDATES SO SERVE ON THE VICTORIA CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

>> THE RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS GOING TO JUST NOMINATE SOMEONE TO SERVE ON THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS. CURRENTLY THAT POSITION IS HELD BY MS. GOTZ. THOSE ARE THE ROLES IN THE SYSTEM THAT THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS PLAYS.

ONE OF THE BIGGEST ONES WE HAVE SEEN THIS PAST YEAR IS HIRING AN APPRAISER, A CHIEF APPRAISER AND PROVIDING THE OVERVIEW.

A LIST OF THE DATES, THE UPCOMING DATES THAT WE HAVE TO MEET IN ORDER TO PUT SOMEONE ON THE BOARD.

THE FIRST STEP WE DID RECEIVE OUR VOTING ENTITLEMENT.

BY LETTER THAT WAS ADDRESSED TO AMIR AND MR. GARZA AND WE ARE NOW BY THE 15TH WE HAVE TO NOMINATE SOMEONE AND WE CAN NOMINATE UP TO FIVE CANDIDATES AND THE ITEM WILL COME BACK TO YOU AGAIN BEFORE DECEMBER 15TH AND WE HAVE TO CAST THE VOTE BY RESOLUTION AND THE CANDIDATES ARE -- WILL BE DECLARED BEFORE THE 31ST.

OUR VOTING ENTITLEMENT IS 872 VOTES AND THERE IS A HR*EUGS OF THE OTHER TKWARB -- A LIST OF THE OTHER DISTRICTS THAT GET TO VOTE FOR MEMBERS. YOU CAN SEE THE WAY IT IS DIVIDED 872 VOTES IF THE CITY DIVIDES OUR VOTES AMONG MANY CANDIDATES IT COULD BE THAT OUR NOMINEES DO NOT END UP ON THE BOARD AT ALL. AS I JUST EXPLAINED YOU CAN PICK ONE CANDIDATE OR DISTRIBUTE THE VOTES AMONG MANY CANDIDATES. THEY CAST ALL VOTES FOR ONE COUNCILMEMBER TO SERVE ON THE BOARD.

I SPOKE WITH MS. SCOTT THIS MORNING AND SHE IS WILLING TO SERVE AGAIN IF YOU WISH TO APPOINT HER.

>> IF SOMEONE ELSE WANTS THE PLEASURE, THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

>> IT MAKES MY CHOICE VERY EASY.

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THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> THANK YOU, MS. SCOTT. YOU HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB.

AND I WILL MENTION SHE IS THE PRESIDENT OF THAT BOARD RIGHT NOW. THE CHAIR.

>> NO, WE HAVE MADE GREAT STRIDES AND I AM PROUD OF THE PROGRESS WE HAVE MADE. WE DO HAVE THE RESULTS OF THE AUDIT. WE HAVEN'T MET YET TO DISCUSS THEM, BUT WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED A LOT THIS YEAR.

I'M VERY PROUD OF THAT. >> MOTION.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> I'LL SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO NOMINATE MS. SCOTT TO THE VICTORIA CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION STP. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED

SERVICE. >> THANK YOU.

>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I. >> I.

>> THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

[4. Approve variances to Section 10-115 and 13-27 of the City Code to allo...]

ITEM E4. >> A RESOLUTION APPROVING VARIANCES TO SECTION 10-115 AND 13-27 OF THE CITY CODE TO ALLOW FOR A REPLACEMENT OF AN EXISTING ACCEPT PARTICULAR

SYSTEM FOR 109 LEISURE LANE. >> WHAT THIS IS ABOUT, AND I DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION, BUT THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE END OF RUBY STREET WHICH IS OFF LEISURE LANE BY 300 FEET.

THE ELEVATION DIFFERENCE IS ABOUT 10 FEET.

THAT'S HOW MUCH HIGHER LEISURE LANE IS.

THE PROPERTY IS A SMALL HOUSE AND IT IS CURRENTLY ON A ACCEP.

THE OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE WANTED TO REQUEST FROM COUNCIL TO STAY ON THE SEPTIC SYSTEM AND IF THEY WANT TO UPGRADE TO UPGRADE TO A SEPTIC SYSTEM. WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THAT. SHOULD THEY PLAT THE PROPERTY OR SEWER LINE WHERE IT IS ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY, THEY WOULD NEED TO TIE ON TO THE SEWER.

>> IF THEY SUB -- SUBDIVIDE THEY HAVE TO POUR INTO THE

SEWER. >> HOW BIG A LOT ARE WE TALKING

ABOUT? >> IT IS PROBABLY HALF AN ACRE.

THE HOUSE IS MAYBE A TWO OR THREE-BEDROOM HOUSE.

IT IS A VERY SMALL HOUSE. IT HAS BEEN -- THAT SIDE OF THE HOUSE WAS BUILT IN THE 60S. IT IS AN OLDER HOME.

IT HAS BEEN ON ACCEPT PARTICULAR FOR MANY, MANY, MANY

YEARS. >> I MOVE WE ADOPT D4.

>> SECOND. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON ITEM E4?

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I. >> I.

>> THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

[5. Approve a resolution to forward the draft Airport Joint-Action Agreeme...]

E5. >> ITEM E5 IS A RESOLUTION APPROVING -- OR IS APPROVING A RESOLUTION TO FORWARD THE DRAFT AIRPORT JOINT ACTION AGREEMENT TO THE F.A.A. FOR THEIR REVIEW

AND COMMENT. >> ALL RIGHT.

I HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR Y'ALL.

ALL RIGHT. THERE WE GO.

SO I'M GONNA GIVE JUST A LITTLE HISTORY.

I KNOW WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS A NUMBER OF TIMES AND EVERYBODY IS UP TO SPEED, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE ANYBODY WATCHING DOES HAVE INTEREST IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WE GO THROUGH IT ONE MORE TIME. BACK IN FEBRUARY OF 2022, THE GROUP OF FIVE CALL IT, THESE FIVE ENTITIES HIRED STEVE BALDWIN AND ASSOCIATES, A NATIONALLY-RECOGNIZED CONSULT AT THE PRESENT TIME TO -- CON -- CONSULTANT TO STUDY THE AIRPORT. WE REALIZE IT IS AN ECONOMIC ASSET FOR THE COMMUNITY AND LOOKING FOR A WAY TO TAKE IT FORWARD INTO THE FUTURE SO IT CAN BE A BIGGER ECONOMIC DRIVER FOR OUR COMMUNITY. THIS IS MR. FARRELL'S GRAPHICS, YOU WILL NOTICE THERE. SO BACK IN JANUARY AFTER THE REPORT THAT THEY PRESENTED TO US, THEY RECOMMENDED A GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE AND THE FIRST THING THEY RECOMMENDED WAS AN INDEPENDENT AIRPORT COMMISSION WITH SPONSORED OVERSIGHT ACTUALLY AROUND A THE AIRPORT.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THAT WAS THE MAJOR ONE. AND THEN THEY ALSO RECOMMENDED THAT THE CITY AND THE COUNTY CONSIDER JOINING A JOINT SPONSORSHIP AGREEMENT. AT THAT TIME WE PASSED AND THE COUNTY PASSED A RESOLUTION SAYING, YES, WE WILL LOOK AT A JOINT SPONSORSHIP AGREEMENT AND SEE HOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD TOGETHER WITH IT. SO WE FORMED THIS AIRPORT GOVERNANCE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. I APPOINTED THREE MEMBERS TO IT AND THE COUNTY UH POINTED THREE MEMBERS TO IT.

THEY MET. INITIALLY IT WASN'T AS PATED TO TAKE THREE TO FOUR MONTHS TO GET TO A RESOLUTION FROM JANUARY. IT ENDED UP GOING FOR OVER SIX MONTHS. AT THAT TIME THEY STILL HADN'T COME TO AN AGREEMENT BY THE END OF JUNE.

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MR. CROCKER AND MR. LOFGREN AND MYSELF SAT DOWN WITH TWO COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND CAME UP WITH WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS THE FINAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY AND COUNTY IN VERSION 7.

THAT'S WHAT WE HAD PLANNED TO BRING TO CITY COUNCIL AND TO COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AT THAT TIME IN AUGUST.

SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, THE COUNTY UNILATERALLY CHANGED THAT VERSION 7 THREE TIMES AND CAME UP WITH VERSION 10 WHICH IS WHAT THEY PASSED AND SENT TO US.

THAT WAS NOT A JOINT WORK PRODUCT.

IN VERSION 10, IT DRASTICALLY CHANGED WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PRESENTED TO THE CITY KOUPB COUNCIL FOR THE AIRPORT OPERATING BUDGET. WE WENT THROUGH A PRESENTATION WHERE WE WENT THROUGH PAST BUDGETS AND THE FISCAL HEALTH OF THE AIRPORT IF YOU RECALL THAT.

WE WERE ABOUT 100,000 IN THE BLACK.

THAT'S THE VERSION 7 WE WERE GOING INTO THAT AGREEMENT.

WE WERE UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING IT WAS OPERATED LIKE A TRUE ENTERPRISE FUND, MUCH LIKE WASTE WATER FUNDS WHERE EVERYTHING IS ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE AIRPORT.

THE AIRPORT BUDGET IN THAT VERSION 10 ONCE WE PAUSE AND IS SAID LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND WE ASKED A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS AND INSTEAD OF BEING $100,000 IN THE BLACK THEY ARE 2 MILLION IN THE RED EACH YEAR. IS -- WITH THAT, WE HAVE LOOKED OVER THIS AGREEMENT WHICH WOULD BE A FIVE-YEAR AGREEMENT IN VERSION 10 AND IT WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE F.A.A. TO STICK WITH FIVE YEARS BEFORE ANYBODY CAN BACK AWAY FROM IT.

WE HAD TO KNOW THE COST BECAUSE THAT WAS A BIG THING.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR VICTORIA AND THE CITY OF VICTORIA IN PARTICULAR AND WHAT EXTRA COSTS ARE WE PUTTING ON OUR TAXPAYERS. WE GO THROUGH THE ESTIMATED OPERATING LOSSES. IT IS A LITTLE OVER $600,000 AND YOU CAN SEE THE INFLATION RATE AS WE GO THROUGH AND THE ADDITION OF ANOTHER POSITION, A STAFF POSITION AT THE AIRPORT, THEY WERE PLANNING TO ADD FOR MARKETING AND COMMUNICATIONS.

YOU CAN SEE IT IS 3.5 MILLION IN OPERATING LOSSES.

HOPEFULLY THE COMMISSION WOULD CHANGE THAT AND MAKE SOME CHANGES, BUT WITH ALL OF THE INFORMATION WE HAVE AND THE BUDGET FOR 2025 WE WILL EXTRAPOLATE WHAT THE OPERATING LOSSES ARE. CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, I WILL ASK THEM TO SEND US A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

THEY DID SO. THESE ARE ALL THE PROJECTS.

WE HAVE SEEN THEM BEFORE. SOME OF IT IS DESPERATE NEED AS FAR AS REFURBISHING HANGARS. THOSE ARE THE BIG TICKET ITEMS THAT ACCOUNTS FOR THE $11.3 MILLION.

IF Y'ALL HAVE FLOWN OUT OF THERE, YOU KNOW THE PARK IS -- THE PARKING LOTS NEED REFURBISH MEANT.

DEFERRED MAINTENANCE ITEMS THAT START ADDING.

IT COMES TO 11.3 AND INSTEAD OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS GOING TO BE AND DIVIDING IT BY 2, IT IS 1.1 MILLION IN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PER YEAR FOR $5.6 MILLION THAT THE CITY WOULD BE RESPONSE -- RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT HALF.

ALL OF THOSE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS WOULD HAVE TO COME BEFORE COUNCIL TO BE VOTED ON INDEPENDENTLY AS WILL THE BUDGET UNDER THE AGREEMENT. AND WE HAVE THE GRANT MATCH AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE GRANT MATCH BEFORE.

THAT'S THE TAXI WAYS AND THE RUNWAYS, THE TERMINAL BUILDING THAT COMES IN THE PHYSICIAN RAL YEAR -- FISCAL YEARS WHICH THIS WILL BE APPLICABLE. NOTHING IN -- YEAH, NOTHING IN 26, BUT 27 YOU CAN SEE IT IS 550.

I THINK THAT IS A TYPO FOR 26. THERE IS NOTHING IN 26.

IT IS JUST 25 AND 27. STILL, $1.9 MILLION IN KNOWN GRANT MATCHINGS AND TERMINAL 1 BUILDING HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED FOR A GRANT, BUT IT IS IN THE FIVE-YEAR CIP WINDOW FOR THE

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CONSULTANT DID REACH OUT AND SAID HE WAS AVAILABLE FOR AN INDEPENDENT ASSESSMENT OF THE AIRPORT FINANCES AND WILL DO WHATEVER HE CAN TO BRING THE AIRPORT BACK TO THE BLACK.

KWR*PLG -- I THINK THIS SHOULD BE DONE REGARDLESS IF WE PASS THIS AS WELL. OPENING IT UP FOR Y'ALL IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE PRESENTATION OR DISCUSS WHERE WE ARE ON THE AIRPORT GOVERNANCE OR IF ANYBODY WANTS

TO MAKE A MOTION. >> FIRST LET'S TALK.

HOW IS THE CIP IMPROVEMENT -- THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT AFFECT OUR CIPS WE HAVE RIGHT NOW? ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT

SOMETHING ASIDE? >> YES.

WE WOULD HAVE TO DECIDE, YOU KNOW -- IF WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT LIST, IF THE AIRPORT CAME TO US WITH HERE IS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS YEAR OR IF THEY SPREAD IT OUT OVER A FIVE-YEAR WINDOW, WE HAVE TO DECIDE CAN WE SHOEHORN IT IN? I CAN LOOK AT TERMINAL PARKING AND RECONSTRUCTION OF LOT A, AND CAN WE FIND SAVINGS OF ON A PROJECT OF $100,000 TO TAKE CARE OF OUR APP? WHEN YOU LOOK AT A FUEL FARM RELOCATION OR HANGAR RECONSTRUCTION OR WHOLE NEW HANGAR, THOSE ARE DIFFERENT PROPOSITIONS, RIGHT? LIKELY TO ME WOULD MEAN WE EITHER CHANGE THE WAY WE ARE PLANNING TO STRUCTURE DEBT IN THE FUTURE OR WE CHANGE PROJECTS THAT WE ARE ALREADY LINED UP IN A FIVE-YEAR WINDOW AND SHUFFLE THINGS AROUND. THAT'S HOW MY ANSWER WOULD BE.

>> I DO NOT KNOW THE FULL -- WELL, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN THERE THAT JUMPS OUT AT. JUMPS OUT AT ME.

I IMAGINE IT WAS ON THE GRANT LIST IF IT WAS A GRANT THAT WE KNOW OF RIGHT NOW. MOST OF THAT IS F.A.A. ON THE GRANT LIST. YOU COULD POSSIBLY FIND ANOTHER GRANT SOMEWHERE. A LOT OF IT IS JUST REPAIRS IF

YOU LOOK AT IT. >> EXPLAIN THE LOGISTIC AGAIN THAT THERE WOULD BE A COMMISSION CONTROLLING THE AIRPORT, AND YET YOU ARE SAYING IF THEY WANTED TO DO A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT IT WOULD COME TO US FOR UH -- APPROVAL STP.

>> YES. >> AND THAT MEANS IT WOULD GO

TO THE COUNTY FOR APPROVAL? >> YES.

SO EITHER ONE OF US IF WE REFUSED IT MAY STRAIN THE WHOLE POINT OF THE JOINT COMMISSION ANYWAY, BUT THAT IS A POSSIBILITY THAT COULD OCCUR ON EACH CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT.

>> IT IS. AND IT DOES NOT PREVENT ONE ENTITY OR THE SORE FROM SAYING WE'LL JUST DO THE WHOLE THING.

EVEN THOUGH IT IS 50/50 WE COULD SAY WE'RE GONNA DO THE WHOLE THING. IF WE HAD CHOSEN TO SPEND OUR ARPA FUNDING ON SOMETHING AT THE AIRPORT WE COULD HAVE DONE THAT. I AM GETTING THERE IS SOME CBDG MONEY AND YOU SAY WE HAVE THIS FUNDING AND WE ARE APPLYING IT

TO THE AIRPORT. >> IF WE WERE TO DO THAT, THAT WOULD NOT ALLOW US TO SAY IN A 50/50 DEAL WE GET CREDIT FOR -- IN OTHER WORDS IF WE SAY WE WANT TO DO THAT DOES THAT ENTITLE US TO SAY WE PAID OUR PART ON SOMETHING ELSE? I'M TAKING IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY.

>> MR. CROCKER AND I TALKED A LOT ABOUT HOW THIS WORKS.

WHAT WE CAME TO THE CON HRAOUGF READING AND TALKING WITH CONSULTANTS, EACH PROJECT HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO STRUCTURE IT HOWEVER YOU WANT. ERPBL -- CERTAINLY IF WE DECIDED WE WERE GOING IN DEBT ON IT AND HAD A 10-YEAR DEBT

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IT DOESN'T PUT YOU ON THE HOOK WITH IT.

IT HAS TO GO WITH THE ASSET AND NOT THE ENTITY.

>> I THINK THAT'S ACCURATE. MY COMMENTS WOULD BE THIS INFORMATION IS HELPFUL AND THANKS TO THOSE WHO WORKED ON IT TO PUT IT TOGETHER. THIS ANSWERED SOME OF THE QUESTIONS WE HAVE COMING OUT OF THE CHANGES WE SAW IN VERSION 8, 9 AND 10 WHICH WERE DRASTIC CHANGES AT THE END OF THE DAY THAT WERE SETTLE CHANGES, BUT IT BASICALLY CHANGED THE THE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS. THE FINE HAD INCLUDE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THAT SORT OF THING.

ESSENTIALLY AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE COUNTY SHIFTED RESPONGES BUILT OF PAYMENT -- RESPONSIBILITY OF PAYMENT FOR THINGS IT WAS COVER 100% TO THIS NEW COMMISSION WHICH IN EFFECT PUTS HALF OF IT ON THE CITY.

AT THE END OF THE DAY THAT'S 100% WHAT THE CHANGES DID.

IT IS BASICALLY TAKING THAT FROM A COUNTY EXPENSE TO A COMMISSION EXPENSE THAT MAKES THE CITY RESPONSIBLE FOR HALF OF IT. IT BRINGS UP BIG CONCERNS.

NUMBER ONE, I HAVE CONCERNS FOR THE CITY.

AND NUMBER TWO, I KNOW OTHERS -- SHARE THIS THAT -- I HAVE CONCERNS FOR THE VIABILITY OF THE COMMISSION IF THEY RIGHT OFF THE BAT ARE STUCK WITH ALL OF THESE EXPENSES THE COUNTY HAS PAID 100% OF FOR HOWEVER LONG AND NOW THEY HAVE TO DO IT. I DON'T THINK THAT COMMISSION WILL HAVE A FAIR CHANCE TO SUCCEED AND YOU WILL SEE IT GO AWAY IN FIVE YEARS IF THEY ARE SAD TELL -- SADDLED WITH THIS TYPE OF A RESPONSIBILITY. THAT CONCERNS ME AND THEN FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE, WE ARE LOOKING AT ISSUES IN TERMS OF PLAYING OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND IN TERMS OF PAYING OUR FIREFIGHTERS. THIS MONEY HAS TO COME OUT OF SOMEWHERE. AS MS. SOLIZ POINTED OUT, IT COULD AFFECT OUR -- I THINK WHAT HAPPENED IS MY PERSPECTIVE OF HOW THIS STARTED WAS THE CITY APPROACHED US WITH CAN YOU HELP US WITH GRANT MATCHING? THATY VALVED FROM THE WHOLE DISCUSSION AND NEGOTIATION THAT HAS GONE WELL BEYOND THAT.

I THINK IMPROVING THE AIRPORT IS GREAT FOR THE CITY AND THE REGION. BUT THIS IS WELL BEYOND THAT.

NOW WE ARE INTO DOLLARS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY PITCHED AND CERTAINLY WELL ABOVE WHAT WE THOUGHT WE HAD AGREED TO IN VERSION 7 THAT THEN WORKED INTO THE VERSION WE RECEIVED OF 8, 9 AND 10 THAT LEAD TO THE NUMBERS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.

I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THE CITY SUPPORTING THE AIRPORT AND HELPING THE COUNTY WITH THE AIRPORT ON MATCHES, BUT GETTING INTO THESE TYPE OF NUMBERS TO PAY FOR THINGS THE COUNTY HAS BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR FOR ALL THESE YEAR AND NOW THEY WANT US TO BE ON THE HOOK FOR HALF, I STRUGGLE WITH THAT.

AND SAD HREUG THE CITY WITH NUMBERS -- SADDLIG THE CITY

WILL LEAVE A FIT. >> I AGREE 150% NET -- AND NOT ONLY THE NEW VERSION 10, IT MAKES THE AIRPORT COMMISSION HAVE TO ASK FOR MONEY FROM THE CITY AND THE COUNTY.

VERSION 7 ACTUALLY MADE MONEY. THIS JUST GIVES MONEY TO THE COUNTY. IT PUTS MONEY IN THE COUNTY'S POCKET. IT IS A WIN FOR THE COUNTY.

IT IS A LOSE FOR THE AIRPORT COMMISSION AND IT IS A LOSE FOR THE CITY. YES, IF IT PASSED IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR THE AIRPORT -- BUT THE COUNTY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE AIRPORT. I SUGGESTED THAT WE GO AND LOOK BACK AT VERSION 7 AND WE EXCLUDE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE KOUPB -- COUNTY IS ALREADY PAYING FOR.

THEY WANT A 50/50 THING SO IF YOU DO THAT IT PUTS MONEY INTO THEIR POCKET. IT IS NOT VIABLE IN MY OPINION.

>> I AGREE. I THINK YOU SAID IT VERY ELOQUENTLY. WE HAVE HAD CONCERNS.

I DO WANT TO APPRECIATE AND TAKE -- THANK EVERYBODY FOR THEIR TIME AND EFFORTS TO, ONE, ASK QUESTIONS, AND FOR THOSE

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I'M GLAD WE HAD PATIENCE UP HERE TO GET ALL THE INFORMATION TO MAKE A SMART DECISION FOR THE TAXPAYERS AND FOR THE AIRPORT. IT SADDENS ME AND I WANT TO BE A VIABLE ECONOMIC DRIVER, BUT I WAS UNCOMFORTABLE EVEN AT 7 WITH UNANSWERED QUESTIONS. AS THINGS COME ALONG I AM A LOT MORE UNCOMFORTABLE. IT DOESN'T MEAN I DON'T WISH THE AIRPORT TO BE SUCCESSFUL. I JUST DON'T SEE IT SUCCESSFUL

IN THE CITY'S STANDPOINT. >> I AM WILLING TO DISCUSS OR OPEN DISCUSS AND WANT TO DISCUSS HOW THE CITY CAN HELP MOVE THAT FORWARD. I DON'T THINK IT IS VIABLE FOR THE CITY TO APPROVE AND TO PARTICIPATE TO THAT EXTENT.

I THINK THERE ARE OTHER WAYS WE CAN HELP THAT WE WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF. COMMITTING TO THE HISTORICAL COUNTY OFFENSES IT IS BEYOND WHAT I THINK IS GOOD FOR THE

CITY. >> THIS WOULD PUT BURDEN ON THE FUTURE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO COME UP WITH THAT.

I MEAN, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 29 FISCAL YEARS.

THEY WOULD BE FORCED TO RAISE THE TAX RATE ON CITIZENS.

>> OF THE ESTIMATED OPERATING LOSS, WHAT PERCENTAGE OR HOW MUCH OF THAT WAS ACTUALLY BEING PAID BY THE COUNTY AT ONE TIME.

ALL OF IT, PART OF IT? >> ALL BUT IN THAT NUMBER

$100,000. >> SO FOR EACH YEAR 25, 26, 27, 28 AND 29, $100,000 OF THAT ESTIMATED OPERATING LOSS WAS

BEING PAID BY THE COUNTY? >> THEY WOULD HAVE MADE

$100,000 THOUGH. >> THE DIFFERENCE WAS PAID BY

THE COUNTY. >> THE AIRPORT RIGHT NOW IN -- AND THE WAY IT IS STRUCTURED FINANCIALLY SHOWS $100,000 PROFIT, APPROXIMATELY. WHEN YOU TAKE SOME OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS, THEY HAVE ALMOST 17% THEY SHOW IN THE BUDGET. IT IS ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS FOR THE COUNTY TO DO HUMAN RESOURCES.

YOU PUT THE R FOR THE FIREFIGHTING IN THERE.

THOSE ARE THE MAJOR DRIVERS FOR THE COST DIFFERENCE.

>> SO THERE IS NOT HALF OF THAT AND LIKE 300,000 FOR EACH YEAR

OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? >> NO.

IT KWOPLS OUT TO -- IT COMES OUT TO -- THERE ARE OPERATING LOSSES THEY SHOWED IN THE BUDGET AND HALF OF IT -- WELL, THEY SHOW RIGHT NOW OVER A MILLION DOLLARS.

>> NO. WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT --

>> MAYBE I CAN JUMP IN AND HELP YOU.

THE NUMBERS YOU ARE SEEING UP THERE, THAT'S THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY. IT IS ACCOUNTED FOR.

LET'S GO BACK TO 2025. 622K IS MADE UP ON A BUDGET FOR 2025, I BELIEVE THE JUDGE DID. IT CAME OUT TO BE A MILLION DOLLARS AND SOME CHANGE. IT IS 525,000 K AND THAT INCLUDES ITEMS NOT IN THE BUDGET WHICH HAS A CAMPAIGN WITH THE AIRPORT. SO WE TOOK HALF OF THAT.

IN 26 THERE IS A COMMENT IN ONE OF THOSE DEW POINTS -- DOCUMENTS THAT WAS SENT TO EVERYBODY.

THEY WANT A MARKETING CAMPAIGN MANAGER INCLUDED.

IT IS PROVIDED TO THE MAYOR AND OUR HALF IS $37,000 AND ON TOP OF THAT YOU HAVE THE INFLATIONARY RATE.

I DID AN INCLINE OF 5.33. THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS THAT REPRESENT THE CITY'S SHARE RATE.

IT IS NOT THE GROSS. JUST MULTIPLY IT BY 2.

>> BY 2. OKAY.

I SEE THAT. WELL, IF WE DON'T VOTE FOR THIS

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>> WELL, I MEAN, I THINK AS MRS ALWAYS OPEN AT THE CITY TO FIND A WAY TO HELP WITH THE AIRPORT. IF YOU LOOK AT THIS FIVE-YEAR TOTAL, THIS IS HALF. THAT MEANS THE COUNTY AND THE AIRPORT, THERE IS $TW -- $22 MILLION THEY ARE STARING AT OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS IF YOU WILL ACCOMPLISH EVERYTHING ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN AND COVER LOSSES.

IT IS $22 MILLION. IT IS SUCH A BIG COMPONENT OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF THE REGION.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO VICTORIA OTHERWISE WE WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN THAT FAR WITH IT. I THINK THE DOOR IS OPEN TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT SOMETHING. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS RIGHT NOW. I HAVE BEEN WRACKING MY BRAIN TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP.

WITH VERSION 10, IT IS JUST A REALLY BIG NUMBER TO LUMP THEM TO THE TAXPAYERS AND THE CITY OF VICTORIA THAT HAVE ALREADY PAID THAT ARE COUNTY TAXES. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE.

I THINK IT IS STILL A BENNETT -- A BEN -- A BENEFIT TO TRY TO FIND HELP FOR THE AIRPORT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS RIGHT NOW.

>> THE CONCEPT IS NOT DEAD IF WE DO NOT AGREE ON IT.

>> I DON'T THINK IT IS, NOT FROM MY STANDPOINT.

>> I HOPE NOT. THE AIRPORT IS VERY VALUABLE TO

THE CITY AND THE ECONOMY. >> WHAT IS IN FRONT OF US IS A RESOLUTION TO FORWARD THAT VERSION 10 TO THE F.A.A. TO GIVE THEIR REVIEW AND COMMENT WHICH WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WOULD BE. IF WE DON'T APPROVE THIS, IT JUST MEANS THAT WE DON'T AGREE WITH FORWARDING VERSION 10, BUT IT IS NOT THE END OF THE ROAD, AT LEAST AS FAR AS I'M

CONCERNED. >> AND THE CONSULTANT SAID THEY ARE WILLING TO -- FOR SOME TYPE OF PAYMENT WILL LOOK AT THE FINANCES AND HELP DEVELOP A PLAN FOR THE COUNTY TO GET IT BACK IN THE BLACK. I AM NOT SAYING THE COUNTY HASN'T PAID FOR ALL THIS, BUT THE WAY THEY ACCOUNT FOR IT IS DIFFERENT IN THE WAY WE ACCOUNT FOR IT.

ONCE WE DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE, THIS IS THE TRUE FINANCIAL CONDITION OF THE AIRPORT. THE COUNTY HAS BEEN TAKING CARE OF THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES FOR THESE OPERATING LOSSES.

IT IS JUST IN DIFFERENT BUCKETS THAN WE WOULD PUT IT IN.

>> THAT WAS NOT MADE APPARENT UNTIL VERSIONS 8, 9 AND 10 CAME ALONG AND THAT LEAD TO THE QUESTIONS WHICH WE FOUND OUT THERE REALLY WAS A LOSS VERSUS WHAT WE HAVE HEARD BEFORE AND IN THE BLACK. IT WAS ALMOST IN THE FINISH LINE BECAUSE OF CHANGES -- AND THEN THERE WERE CHANGES TO RECOVER EXPENSES THAT WERE NOT DISCLOSED PREVIOUSLY.

THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT AMOUNTS TO.

>> IT IS WHY THE PARKING LOTS HAVE NOT BEEN REPAVED AND THICKS LIKE THAT. THE KOUPB -- THE COUNTY IS PUTTING MONEY INTO THE OPERATIONS THEY ARE I CAN MAAING THE AIRPORT COMMISSION ACCOUNT FOR.

>> THERE IS NO AIRPORT COMMISSION NOW.

>> WHAT ARE THEY CALLED? >> THERE IS NOT ONE.

>> IF YOU LOOK AT AIRPORTS, THERE ARE 25 AIRPORTS IN TEXAS BIGGER THAN OUR AIRPORT. ONLY FOUR OF THEM MAKE MONEY.

AIRPORTS ARE NOT MONEY MAKING THINGS.

THEY ARE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THINGS THAT STAND OVER THERE AND THEY ATTRACT BUSINESS. MOST AIRPORTS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THEIR BUDGET, THEY NEVER GET CHARGED FOR FIRE.

THE ENTITY THAT RUNS THAT AIRPORT, THEY ABSORB IT AND IT NEVER APPEARS IN THE BUDGET. EVEN WHEN IT DOES APPEAR IN THE BUDGET, THEY MAKE LITTLE MONEY IF THEY MAKE MONEY AT ALL.

THIS IDEA OF THE AIRPORT BEING IN THE BLACK WOULD ONLY HAPPEN IF THEY WOULD NOT CHARGE THE CERTAIN EXPENSES TO THE AIRPORT. WHICH IT DOESN'T IN ITS BUDGET.

WHEN WE DID VERSION 7 THAT'S WHAT WE ASSUMED.

VERSION 10 THEY WANT THAT AND I'M SORRY.

THAT JUST DOESN'T FLOAT. >> DO WE HAVE A BREAK?

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>> IT WAS 600,000 IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.

>> THAT WAS ONE THING AND THERE WERE OTHER THINGS.

WE DON'T CHARGE 17% TO ENTERPRISE FUNDS.

WE CHARGE 10%. THE COUNTY CHARGES 17%.

THAT'S ANOTHER EXPENSE THAT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE AIRPORT'S BUDGET RIGHT NOW. SO ARF IS $520,000 AND CHANGE.

>> OKAY. >> ALL RIGHT.

>> I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WANT TO PROCEED, IF YOU WANT TO JUST NOT VOTE ON IT OR VOTE ON IT? WHATEVER --

>> WELL, AT THIS POINT YOU DID TABLE THIS ITEM AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING AND IT WAS ON THE AGENDA.

AS TPRAOEF -- PREVIOUSLY EXPLAINED, THIS IS JUST AN AGREEMENT TO FORWARD THE AGREEMENT TO THE F.A.A.

SO IF YOU VOTE IT DOWN AT THIS POINT, THE SITUATION IS STILL OPEN. YOU CAN DISCUSS VERSIONS IN THE FUTURE OR WHATEVER YOU DECIDE TO DO, ABOUT YOU TO LEAVE THIS VERSION HANGING OUT THERE WITH THE COUNTY HAVING ALREADY APPROVED IT WOULD PUT THE CITY IN AN AWKWARD POSITION.

>> WE HAVEN'T MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE.

>> BUT I WANTED TO MAKE A STATEMENT, JUST A CLARIFICATION. I KNOW JUDGE ZELLER HAD MS. ROSE COME UP THERE AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS SHE SAID OR THROUGH HIM, SAID WE HAD ARRIVED AT AN AGREEMENT.

I WROTE DOWN WE HAD ARRIVED AT AN AGREEMENT AND WE HAD NEVER ARRIVED AT AN AGREEMENT IN REGARDS TO THIS.

I WANTED CLARIFICATION FROM THAT STANDPOINT.

>> I WROTE DOWN THE OTHER COMMENT WHERE HE SAID I CREATED

A FINAL PLAN. >> TAKING NOTES.

>> YES. >> WE HAD GOT INTO SOMETHING THAT WAS CONTINUOUS AT VERSION 7 I WOULD SAY.

>> STILL HAS ISSUES, BUT 8, 9 AND 10 WERE DEFINITELY --

>> I WOULD CALL THEM DEAL BREAKERS IS A BETTER

DESCRIPTION. >> SO WE ARE IN AGREEMENT THAT WE ARE STILL OPEN TO TRYING TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING THAT HELPS THIS AIRPOPORT BECAUSE IT IS VITALLY IMPORTANT TO OUR ECONOMIC GROWTH, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE RIGHT NOW CONSENSUS THAT WE NEED TO VOTE ON TO MAKE SURE WE WILL NEED A MOTION TO

APPROVE OR DE -- OR DENY. >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DENY THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS PRESENTED TO US TO SUPPORT VERSION 10 WHICH WAS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY.

>> I SECOND. >> MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION STP -- DISCUSSION? I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY THAT SO FAR HAS SERVED.

WE HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS FOR A YEAR AND A HALF NOW, A LITTLE OVER. I DON'T THINK IT IS OVER.

I HOPE IT IS NOT OVER. I HAVE BEEN A MAJOR PROPONENT OF IT. I APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S PATIENCE WITH ME. CAN WE CONTINUE TO PUSH TO SEE HOW WE CAN COME TO AN AGREEMENT? THANK YOU TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT FOR ALSO CONTINUING TO WORK ON IT. WITH THAT I WILL CALL THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF DENYING THE RESOLUTION SAY I.

>> I. >> THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN.

GOT THAT ALL? GREAT.

THANK YOU, MR. FARRELL FOR THE GRAPHICS AND THANK YOU FOR HELPING. WE HAVE NO CITY MANAGER REPORTS. DO WE HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION?

>> WE DO NOT. WITH THAT WE ARE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.