[A. CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:10] MEETING. HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYBODY. WILL YOU PLEASE CALL ROLE. >> -- >> EVERYONE WILL PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE FOLLOWED BY A MOMENT OF SILENCE. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. [1. Announcements/Reminders:] REMINDERS? >> GOOD AFTERNOON. HAPPY NEW YEAR. WELCOME TO ANOTHER GREAT YEAR, I HOPE. I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF ANNOUNCEMENTS. THIS MONTH WILL MARK THE SECOND YEAR THAT WE HOST THE WINTER GAMES OF TEXAS. THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE PLACE OVER THREE MONTHS BEGINNING IN JANUARY 13 THROUGH THE 16TH. THAT WILL INCLUDE SWIMMING, WILDERNESS BASKETBALL, PICKLEBALL , TENNIS, ARCHERY, AND CORN HOLE. WE INVITE THE PUBLIC TO VISIT THE EVENTS AND HELP THIS CANNOT BE A SUCCESS. FOR MORE INFORMATION THEY CAN VISIT THE PARKS AND RECREATION'S PAGE ON THE COV WEBSITE. ADDITIONALLY, OF OUR MENTAL SERVICES THIS WEEK WILL BEGIN PICK UP A IS MYSTERIES. WE ASKED THE PUBLIC TO, IF THEY ARE INTERESTED, PUT OUT THEIR CHRISTMAS TREES ON THE DAY THEIR YARD WASTE GETS COLLECTED AND WE ASK THAT THEY REMOVE ALL ARTIFICIAL MATERIALS, ORNAMENTS, ET CETERA. FOR MORE INFORMATION THEY CAN VISIT THE ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES PAGE ON THE WEBSITE, AS WELL. SMACK JUST LIVE CHRISTMAS TREES? >> CORRECT. YES. >> FOR ANNOUNCEMENTS, THAT IS ALL I'VE GOT. WE DO HAVE RECOGNITIONS COMING UP, THOUGH. [a. January 2023 Keep Victoria Beautiful Business Beautification Award. Ch...] FIRST UP I WILL ASK CHRISTY YOUKER TO COME UP AND INTRODUCE OUR JANUARY 2023 KEEP VICTORIA BEAUTIFUL BUSINESS BEAUTIFICATION AWARD . >> HELLO, HAPPY NEW YEAR. HAPPY TO START OFF THIS NEW YEAR WITH A VERY EXCITING WINTER. I WILL INTRODUCE MEREDITH BYRD, OUR CHAIRPERSON TO DO THE HONORS. >> THANK YOU, AND GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. AS BOARD CHAIR I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF RECOGNIZING LOCAL BUSINESSES AND ORGANIZATIONS THAT GO ABOVE AND BEYOND TO MAKE OUR CITY A WONDERFUL PLACE TO LIVE. TODAY WE PRESENT THE JANUARY BUSINESS BEAUTIFICATION AWARD TO THE WARRIORS WEEKEND FIELD OF HONOR. FOUNDED IN 2007 TO SUPPORT AMERICAN VETERANS, THIS NONPROFIT JOSE ANNUAL MACHINE EVENT FOR MILITARY AND VETERANS BASED CAUSES. NINE YEARS AGO THE CURRENT FIELD OF HONOR WAS BUILT ON LAND OWNED BY PARKWAY CHURCH AS A PLACE TO HONOR THE SERVICE AND SACRIFICE OF VETERANS , ACTIVE-DUTY MILITARY, AND THEIR FAMILIES. IT IS MAINTAINED YEAR-ROUND BY A SMALL, DEDICATED GROUP OF VOLUNTEERS SO THAT IT CAN BE A PLACE OF SERENITY AND REFLECTION. I AM PROUD TO PRESENT TONIGHT'S AWARD TO COLONEL -- >> WORDS, IF YOU LIKE. >> I WOULD. MIRROR, COUNCILMAN, I BROUGHT THESE UP HERE FOR A VERY SPECIFIC REASON, THIS IS THAT SMALL GROUP THAT IS HABITUALLY OUT THERE EARLY IN THE MORNING BEFORE EVERYBODY ELSE , AND ONLY IN THE EVENING WHEN EVERYONE ELSE HAS GONE HOME. THIS WILL BE OUR 15TH YEAR SHOWING THE NATION WHAT RIGHT LOOKS LIKE RIGHT HERE IN VICTORIA, TEXAS. YOU HAVE AN ORGANIZATION THAT IS LITERALLY BROUGHT IN MORE THAN 8000 WOUNDED, NOT HEALING -- [00:05:04] HEALED, BUT HEALING SOLDIERS, AIRMEN, AND MARINES. THEY TAKE THIS IDEA BACK WITH THEM. WE'VE HAD WARRIORS HEAR FROM EVERY STATE IN THE UNION AND PUERTO RICO WHEN I SAY WE ARE SHOWING THE NATION WHAT RIGHT LOOKS LIKE, I AM NOT EXAGGERATING. THAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT HERE IN VICTORIA, TEXAS. AND WE CANNOT BE MORE PROUD THAT WE WERE RECOGNIZED FOR THIS. THIS CREW I HAVE BEHIND ME HERE ARE THE FOLKS WHO HABITUALLY MAKE THIS THING HAPPEN AND KEEP THAT LOOKING LIKE , WHAT WE ALWAYS LIKE TO SAY IS WE TOOK A VACANT LOT AND TURNED IT INTO A HOLLOWED GROUND. AGAIN, I WANT TO APPRECIATE PASTOR MIKE HIRT AND HIS TEAM OUT THERE AT PARK WAY CHURCH TO ALLOWED US TO BE OUT THERE THESE LAST NINE YEARS. I WANT TO GIVE GOD ALL OF THE GLORY, BUT I WANT TO GIVE THEM HONOR. AGAIN, WE THANK YOU. LET'S CONTINUE BUILDING THE COMMUNITY OF HONOR AND EXCELLENCE. >> THANK YOU, COLONEL. THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR OUR VETERANS AND THE COMMUNITY, AS WELL. THANK YOU. [b. Recognizing Benjamin Adrean for his Eagle Scout Service Project benefi...] ASK ROGER WELDER TO COME UP AND INTRODUCE A SPECIAL GUEST TO HAS A PRESENTATION FOR YOU ALL. >> THAT HE DOES. GOOD EVENING. GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL. WE HAVE MR. BENJAMIN ADRIAN HERE. HE HAS CANDIDATE FOR EAGLE SCOUT AND HE HAS DONE HIS SERVICE PROJECT BENEFITING THE CITY OF VICTORIA AND SPECIFICALLY THE VICTORIA LIBRARY. ON BEHALF OF THE CITY I WANT TO THANK THEM, INTRODUCE THEM, AND HE HAS A PRESENTATION TO DO FOR YOU. >> HELLO. MY NAME IS BENJAMIN ADREAN, I AM 17 AND AN EAGLE SCOUT CANDIDATE. A FEW MONTHS AGO I STARTED A SERVICE PROJECT TO HELP RESTORE THE FRONTAL AREA OF THE VICTORIA PUBLIC LIBRARY. IN THIS PROJECT WHAT WE DID WAS WE REPAINTED THE RAILS, REMOVED ALL OF THE REST FROM THEM AND REPAINTED THEM. WE ALSO REPAINTED THE STAIRSTEP STRIPES. WE POWER WASH THE ENTIRE AREA. THIS WAS ALSO MY EAGLE SCOUT PROJECT. IT IS REQUIRED TO ATTAIN THE RANK OF EAGLE IN BOTH BOY SCOUTS. THIS PROJECT CANNOT OF BEEN ACCOMPLISHED WITHOUT SCOUT VOLUNTEERS. ONE OF THEM IS IN THE AUDIENCE. THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO HELPED. THIS IS THE ORIGINAL CONDITION OF THE LIBRARY. AS YOU CAN SEE, IT IS QUITE . THIS PROJECT WAS APPROVED -- FIRST I HAD TO PITCH IT TO MR. WELDER. DURING THE MEETING WE DISCUSSED EVERYTHING WE NEEDED AND THEN I HAD TO PITCH IT TO MY BOY SCOUT LEADERS. ONCE THEY APPROVED IT I HAD TO PITCH IT TO MY LOCAL LEADERS AND HAD TO PITCH MY PROPOSAL TO THEM AND PROVIDE EVIDENCE THAT THE LIBRARY WAS IN NEED OF REPAIRS. THEY GIVE ME ADVICE ON THE PROJECT SUCH AS KEEPING THE AREA CLEAN AND MAKING SURE THE LIBRARY WAS CLOSED OFF. THIS PROJECT TOOK A LOT OF PLANNING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO RESTORE IT. FOR POWER WASHING WE DECIDED TO USE -- AND FOR THE RAILS I LEARNED WE HAD TO STAND DOWN AND THEN PRIMER AND PAINT. WE DECIDED TO USE THESE INEXPENSIVE PAINTBRUSHES. AS FOR THE STRIPE STRIPS. MR. WELDER SAID WE WOULD HAVE TO STRIP THE EXISTENT MATERIAL AND WE WOULD BUILD A PAINT OVER IT. WE DECIDED TO USE THE STANDARD ROLLERS FROM LOWE'S. I HAD TO USE A TAPE MEASURE TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH PAIN WAS NEEDED AND ENDED UP MEETING LESS THAN A GALLON OF EACH PAINT. WHEN IT CAME TO FIGURING OUT HOW TO GET THE RUST OFF THE RAILS WE DECIDED TO USE A WIDE BRUSH ATTACHMENT. THAT TOOK SOME RESEARCH AND CONSULTING WITH MY DAD WHO ALSO KNEW HOW TO USE THESE TOOLS. USING THE ANGLE GRINDER WAS THE MOST EFFICIENT TO SEND IT DOWN. FOR PAIN IN THE RAILS IT WAS VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD. WE USE PAINTERS TAPE TO PROTECT AND ALSO APPLIED THE YELLOW PAINT TO THE STAIRSTEP BY POINT ON THERE AND ROLLING IT. THIS IS BECAUSE THEY WERE CONVENIENTLY FOUR INCHES WIDE WITH THE ROLLERS. WE DECIDED TO USE DISPOSABLE ROLLERS BECAUSE THEY ARE CHEAP AND WE PROBABLY [00:10:03] WOULD NOT USE HIM AGAIN. WE REQUIRED EVERYBODY TO WORK WITH CLOSE TOED SHOES BECAUSE THE ANGLE GRINDER COULD BE DANGEROUS IF CARELESS. ALSO REGARD EVERYONE TO WEAR PROTECTION AND SAFETY GLASSES. WE ALSO RECOMMENDED WEARING WERE CLOSER ALL THE WORKDAYS. WE DECIDED TO WRITE INDISCERNIBLE ] WE ALSO HAD TO PLAN OUT FOOD AND WATER. WE BROUGHT IN COOLERS AND GASOLINE POWER GENERATOR TO USE THE ANGLE GRINDER BECAUSE THE LIBRARY SHUTS OFF ELECTRICITY AFTER HOURS. AND WE USE CARDBOARD AND PAINTERS TAPE AND TRASH BAGS TO KEEP THE PAIN FROM GETTING ON THE CONCRETE. MOST OF THE MATERIALS WERE SOURCED BY MR. WELDER . I DID HAVE TO GO TO LOWE'S TO GET SAFETY GEAR AND PAINTBRUSHES. AS FOR WORKDAYS, FOR PAINTING THE RAILS THE PAINTBRUSHES WERE UNAFFECTED SO WE DECIDED TO USE ROLLERS, AS WELL. FOR THE STEPS WE ORIGINALLY USED ROLLERS WHICH WERE DUNKING UP. AND GOT THE RECOMMENDATION TO USE HEAVY-DUTY ROLLERS WHICH WERE MUCH MORE EFFICIENT. PICTURES OF EVERYBODY HELPING OUT . THERE IS HUNTER . THAT IS THE POWER WASHING. THAT WAS ONE OF THE RAILS AS WE PRIMED IT AND WE PUT GARBAGE BAGS UNDERNEATH SO IT WOULDN'T TRIP. THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE AFTER WE WERE DONE. >> FANTASTIC. >> >> I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO HELPED . A SPECIAL THANKS TO -- FOR HELPING WITH THE WORKDAYS AND TO MR. WELDER FOR SUPPLY MOST OF THE PAINT AND TAPE. AND TO MY DAD FOR PUSHING US TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT. >> THANK YOU. >> >> A GREAT JOB, BENJAMIN. CONGRATULATIONS ON COMPLETING THAT EAGLE SCOUT SERVICE PROJECT. I KNOW IT IS A BIG DEAL. BE IN AN EAGLE SCOUT IS A GREAT HONOR, AS WELL. THANK YOU FOR CHOOSING THE LIBRARY AND MAKING IT LOOK BETTER FOR ALL OF US. ANYTHING ELSE ? >> NO, SIR. >> WE WILL GET INTO ITEMS FOR COUNSEL. ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING? [4. Citizen Communication:] GOOD TO SEE EVERYBODY. CITIZENS COMMUNICATION? WE HAVE A STACK OF THEM TONIGHT. WE HAVE SINNED THE FIRST . AS ALWAYS, PLEASE LIMIT COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES . >> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. I WANTED TO EXPLAIN TO YOU MY WORLDVIEW IS A BIBLICAL WORLDVIEW BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT HELPS HUMANITY. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DISAGREE WITH ME I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE ADULTS. MY ISSUE IS LIFE ALTERING DECISIONS ARE BEING MADE BY ADULTS FOR CHILDREN WHO MAY CHANGE THEIR VIEWS WHEN THEY DO BECOME ADULTS. THERE IS A DEPOPULATION AGENDA AND THESE CHILDREN MAY NEVER BE ABLE TO BEAR THEIR OWN CHILDREN WHEN THEY BECOME ADULTS. GOD LOVES US AND WANTS TO RECLAIM THIS EARTH FOR HIS PURPOSES. I BELIEVE WE ARE GETTING VERY CLOSE TO THE END OF TIMES AS PROPHESIED IN THE BIBLE. WE ARE AT A CONVERGENCE OF MULTIPLE SIGNS OF JESUS'S RETURN. THE FOLLOWING ARE A FEW OF THEM. DANIEL WAS TOLD AT THE END OF TIME THAT MANY WOULD RUSH HERE AND THERE AND KNOWLEDGE WOULD BE INCREASED. IT WAS NOT THAT LONG AGO THAT IT TOOK MONTHS TO TRAVEL FROM ONE CONTINENT TO THE OTHER AND THE APOSTLE JOHN [00:15:01] SAW IN THE BOOK OF REVELATIONS A RETURN TO BABYLON. THIS IS RELEVANT BECAUSE THE LANGUAGES WERE CONFUSED THAT BABEL TO RESTRAIN MANTON FROM CRATING ANYTHING THAT COULD BE IMAGINED. IN A FEW YEARS IT APPEARS THAT ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE WILL REPLACE HUMANS IN THE WORKFORCE. IT IS MIND-BOGGLING WHAT THE APP -- CAN DO. IF YOU'RE INTERESTED JORDAN PETERSON DID AN INTERESTING PODCAST ON THE SUBJECT. -- AT THE WORLD GOVERNMENT SUMMIT 2022 SAID THE TRADITIONAL METHOD OF ACCOUNTING AND MONEY IS ABOUT TO BE ABANDONED. SHE SAID THAT THE SUPERPOWER GOVERNMENTS ARE ON THE BRINK OF INTRODUCING DIGITAL CURRENCY. EVEN OUR OWN FEDERAL RESERVE DID A TRIAL RUN AND THERE IS AN EXECUTIVE ORDER REGARDING DIGITAL CURRENCY. WE ARE CLOSE TO THE TIMEFRAME SEEN BY THE APOSTLE JOHN WHEN HE SAW PEOPLE COULD ONLY BUY AND SELL WHEN THEY RECEIVED A MARK. THE MARK WILL BE REQUIRED BY WHAT THE BIBLE CALLS THE BEAST. EVEN FOR MY PUPPY SHE IS NOT RECOMMENDED TO BE NEUTERED UNTIL HER ORGANS ARE MATURE ENOUGH. PLEASE DO NOT FAIRLY NEW AGENDA SO I DO NOT KNOW IF THERE IS ANY LONG-TERM STUDIES WHAT YOUR BODIES ARE WHAT HAPPENS TO THEM MANY YEARS IN THE FUTURE, BUT I HAVE LISTENED TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE WHO HAVE TRANSITIONED BACK TO WHAT THEY WERE AND IT SOUNDS VERY HORRIFYING. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME. I APPRECIATE IT. >> GOOD AFTERNOON . SEEMS LIKE THREE MINUTES IS SO FAST. I AM AN EDUCATOR, LIBRARIAN, AS WELL AS A PARENT AND I USE OUR LIBRARY. I GO IN THERE. I SERVED ON THE LIBRARY AS IVORY ADVISORY BOARD AND I CONTINUE TO ATTEND MEETINGS TO SEE THE PROGRESS MADE BY THIS NEW MAJORITY VOTING BLOCK THAT WAS CREATED INADVERTENTLY OR NOT IN THE RECENT APPOINTMENT CYCLE. I HOPE THAT ALL OF YOU AND THE COMMISSIONERS COURT WILL TAKE THE TIME TO ATTEND THESE MEETINGS. I DID SEE MAYOR AT THE LAST ONE AND HE MADE OPENING STATEMENTS. I HOPE YOU WATCH THIS UNFOLD. THE NATION IS WATCHING THIS UNFOLD. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THIS, BUT WE WERE IN TIME MAGAZINE. THEY INTERVIEWED THE MAYOR, CLINT IVES. IT IS ALL ABOUT THE ISSUE GOING ON IN OUR LIBRARY. PEOPLE ARE WATCHING. THIS IS HAPPENING ALL OVER TEXAS. THERE IS A FEDERAL INVESTIGATION BECAUSE OF THIS VERY THING IN SCHOOL LIBRARIES. BUT I HOPE YOU GUYS WILL TAKE THE TIME TO GO AND LISTEN TO WHAT IS GOING ON AT THESE MEETINGS. I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE THE REPORTS OF WHAT IS HAPPENING, BUT WATCHING IS REALLY TELLING. OUR ADVISORY BOARD MEETINGS THAT'S BECAUSE I USED TO BE ON A -- THEY ARE HELD QUARTERLY. THEY WERE HELD IN UNDER AN HOUR. WE MET AT NOON SO PEOPLE COULD GO TO WORK AFTERNOON AND WE HAD REPORTS OF ALL THE DEPARTMENTS. WE DISCUSSED USAGE BY VARIOUS DEMOGRAPHICS AND AGE GROUPS. WE MADE GOALS. WE HEARD ABOUT NEW ACTIVITIES THAT WE COULD HAVE. THE MEETINGS WERE GREAT AND PRODUCTIVE. THE NEW MEDIANS ARE ALL TAKEN UP WITH WHAT SOUNDS LIKE CLEANING UP OF A DEN OF INIQUITY AND SODOM AND GOMORRAH. CELEBRATING AND GROWING OUR COMMUNITY'S MOST VALUABLE RESOURCE FOR INFORMATION , EDUCATION, AND ENTERTAINMENT OUR LIBRARY IS TRULY A JEWEL. A LOT OF THESE NEW BOARD MEMBERS SPEAK AT THESE MEETINGS AS IF THE PROFESSIONAL EDUCATED AND TRAINED LIBRARY SCIENCE PROFESSIONALS KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE FIELD IN WHICH THEY SPECIALIZE. A LOT OF THESE NEW APPOINTEES SUCH AS DALE ZUCK STATED AT THIS LAST MEETING HE FELT THAT THEY SHOULD BE IN CHARGE OF WHAT IS READ AND VIEWED BY CHILDREN AND ADOLESCENTS, NOT THE PARENTS OR GUARDIAN OF THESE CHILDREN. HE ALSO WANTED TO AMEND THE BYLAWS TO SAY THAT THEY, THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD, SHOULD BE THE FINAL WORD ON ALL LIBRARY MATTERS , NOT THE EDUCATED, TRAINED LIBRARY STAFF. I REALLY FEEL LIKE, RESPECTFULLY, THAT THE MEANING OF ADVISORY IS BEING MISUNDERSTOOD BY SEVERAL OF THESE PEOPLE. I HAVE A COPY OF ALL OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE COLLECTION POLICY AND I HOPE YOU ARE REQUESTING, AS WELL. THEY ARE VERY TELLING. HOWEVER, ATTENDING THE MEETINGS IS A MUST BECAUSE YOU APPOINTED THESE PEOPLE AND THEY REPRESENT YOU. YOU MAY THINK THAT IT MAKES SENSE TO FOLLOW -- AMENDMENT TO MOVE ALL BOOKS WITH DEPICTIONS OF NUDE BODY PARTS TO THE ADULT SECTION. ON THE SURFACE IT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA BUT MOVING PRETEEN BOOKS ON PUBERTY TO THE ADULT SECTION, I DON'T SEE THAT IS PROTECTION FOR CHILD WHEN SHE CAN NO LONGER GO TO THE PRETEEN DEPARTMENT, JUST GO ALL THE [00:20:06] WAY TO THE ADULT FICTION WERE ALL THE OTHER ADULT NONFICTION BOOKS ABOUT SEXUALITY AND HUMANITY ARE. I DON'T SEE HOW MOVING THEM TO THE ADULT SECTION PROTECTS OUR CHILDREN. THOSE 10 AND 11-YEAR-OLD CHILDREN NEED TO BE IN THEIR AREA. I WAS GOING AS FAST AS I COULD. THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS TO YOUR SISTER. >> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. MR. HARLEY FISK? >> GOOD EVENING. I ATTENDED THE LAST LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD MEETING . I NOTICED THAT SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS SEEM TO HAVE DIFFICULTY WITH THE CONCEPT THAT WHAT THEY SAY IT MAY NOT MEAN ALL THAT THEY THINK IT DOES. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD SAY THEY WANT TO RESTRICT WHERE BOOKS ARE PLACED IN ORDER TO PROTECT OUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN. THEY DON'T SEEM TO REALIZE THAT WHAT THEY ARE SAYING IS THAT THEY HAVE FAILED TO PROVIDE THESE CHILDREN WITH THE TOOLS THAT CHILDREN NEED TO FLOURISH IN TODAY'S SOCIETY. THEY HAVE FAILED TO PROVIDE THE LOVE, RESPECT, AND THE TRUST THAT ARE SO IMPORTANT. THE KID SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE OPEN AND HONEST DISCUSSIONS WITH THEIR PARENTS ON ALL ASPECTS OF THEIR LIVES. WE NEED TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT OUR CHILDREN LEARN ABOUT THE WORLD AROUND THEM. THEY ARE AROUND OTHER PEOPLE MUCH OF THE TIME AND IF WE DO NOT TEACH THEM TO TRUST US THEY WILL LOOK ELSEWHERE TO SATISFY THEIR CURIOSITY. THIS COULD LEAD THEM TO PLACES MUCH DARKER THAN THE LIBRARY. ONE OF THE BOOKS ARE MEMBERS OF THE ADVISORY BOARD OBJECTED TO WAS THE SUBJECT OF HOW YOUNG BODIES CHANGE AS THEY REACH PUBERTY. THIS IMPLIED THAT THE SUBJECT IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE TAUGHT BY PARENTS OR CHURCHES. THAT IS A NICE THOUGHT. BUT THERE ARE YOUNG GIRLS BEING RAISED BY SINGLE DADS. THERE ARE YOUNG BOYS BEING RAISED BY SINGLE MOTHERS. THERE ARE CHILDREN BEING RAISED IN HOUSEHOLDS WHERE THE PARENTS WORK MULTIPLE JOBS JUST TO SURVIVE. THERE ARE CHILDREN WERE TO IMPAIR STARS THEIR PARENTS FOR GUIDANCE AND ADVICE BECAUSE THEY TRUST IS NOT THERE. WHY SHOULD WE MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR ANY PARENT CHILD TO GET THE RELATION INFORMATION FROM A RELIABLE SOURCE. MANY CHILDREN FIND THEY ARE DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT COLOR, DIFFERENT ACCENT, MAY BE LARGER OR SMALLER THAN OTHERS. SOME WILL SING AND DANCE, OTHERS WILL NOT. SOME WILL DO WELL IN SCHOOL, OTHERS WILL STRUGGLE. SOME MATURE EARLY, OTHERS LATER. WE AS A COMMUNITY MUST FIND WAYS TO SUPPORT EACH OF THEM. THERE IS NO ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL OPTION. WE MUST RESPECT ALL CHILDREN. THE LIBRARY HAS TRAINED PROFESSIONAL STAFF TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE . WE SHOULD LET THEM DO THE JOB THE ARE EDUCATED TO DO. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU. PIERCE? >> HELLO . I AM HERE TO INTRODUCE MYSELF. I AM RUNNING FOR THE TOURISM ADVISORY BOARD. I HAVE BEEN IN BUSINESS DOWNTOWN SINCE 2010. I HAD A RENTAL SPACE AND IN 2020 I PURCHASED AN HISTORIC BUILDING TO EXTEND MY BILL BUSINESS WHICH HAS BEEN A SUCCESS. I LOVE THIS TOWN AND I LOVE DOWNTOWN AND I WANT TO SEE IT GROW AND FLOURISH. I THINK I AM A VIABLE CANDIDATE AND ASK FOR YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU. >> WE APPRECIATE IT. NEXT UP IS --. >> HELLO, EVERYONE, AGAIN. FIRST, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING ME FOR THE OPEN SEA ON THE TOURISM BOARD. I'M A WIFE, MOM TO THREE FANTASTIC KIDS, AND A GRANDMOTHER TO FOUR BEAUTIFUL CHILDREN. I AM A LOCAL SMALL BUSINESS OWNER RIGHT HERE IN DOWNTOWN VICTORIA. MY HUSBAND AND I OPENED -- 12 YEARS AGO AND MY PARTNER AND WAS OPENED -- IN NOVEMBER. I HAVE BEEN HOSTING OUTDOOR EVENTS AND FUNDRAISERS IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR 12 YEARS WITH THE GOAL OF HIGHLIGHTING SMALL BUSINESS IN OUR COMMUNITY. SINCE OPENING -- DOWNTOWN WE HAVE HAD SHOPPERS VISIT , AND MOST IMPORTANT, I FROM OTHER CITIES . IT IS VERY HUMBLING TO SEE VISITORS TRAVEL HOURS TO SHOP OUR AMAZING DOWNTOWN SMALL BUSINESSES. WE WILL CONTINUE THIS TREND WITH A FULL SCHEDULE OF OUTDOOR EVENTS IN 2023. I AM A FIRM BELIEVER [00:25:02] THAT IF YOU HOST A WELL ORGANIZED EVENT THE COMMUNITY WILL SHOW UP AND THEY WILL SUPPORT YOU. HOSTING SUCCESSFUL EVENTS PROMOTES TOURISM AND BRINGS REVENUE TO OUR CITY AND FILLS OUR HOTELS. I FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT SMALL BUSINESSES THE HEART OF ANY COMMUNITY AND JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, WHEN OUR FAMILY TRAVELS THE FIRST PLACE WE GO IS TO THE LOCAL DOWNTOWN. BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT IS WHERE THE UNIQUE SMALL BUSINESSES ARE LOCATED AND THE BEST CUSTOMER SERVICE IS FOUND. GROWING SMALL BUSINESS GROWS OUR COMMUNITY WHICH THEN GROWS OUR TOURISM. I AM VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT GROWING SMALL BUSINESS. I DO NOT BELIEVE ANYONE IS COMPETITION. THERE IS ROOM FOR ALL OF US TO GROW. THE COMPONENTS TO TOURISM ATTRACTION, ACCESSIBILITY, ACCOMMODATION, AMENITIES, AND ACTIVITIES. WITH A GOOD TEAM WE CAN GROW, PROSPER, WE CAN ALL BUILD EACH OTHER UP. AND I AM READY TO TAKE THIS TASK HEAD ON. ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND HAVE A GREAT EVENING. >> THANK YOU. MR. WAGNER? >> GOOD EVENING. AS YOU CONSIDER THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD COMMITTEE A LITTLE BIT LATER PLEASE MAKE DECISIONS THAT PROMOTE DIVERSITY, EQUITY, AND INCLUSION FOR ALL CITIZENS OF OUR COMMUNITY. PLEASE REJECT ANY DISCRIMINATION AGAINST OUR LGBTQ CITIZENS GUYS AS PROTECTING CHILDREN OR DECENCY. OUR PUBLIC LIBRARY IS NOT A BABYSITTING SERVICE. HER PARENTS WANT TO RESTRICT THEIR CHILD'S ACCESS TO CERTAIN MATERIALS WHY DON'T THEY DO IT THEMSELVES. ALSO, WHEN WILL THIS BOARD ATTEND TO OTHER IMPORTANT BUSINESS ON THEIR AGENDA WHICH IS NOW BACKLOGGED FOR OVER A YEAR? PLEASE LISTEN TO OUR CITY ATTORNEY WHO TOLD THE BOARD A FEW WEEKS AGO THAT QUOTE, CHILDREN IN THIS COMMUNITY HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS AS ADULTS WHEN IT COMES TO ACCESSING MATERIALS IN OUR PUBLIC LIBRARY. AS MISS LACEY LAUREN, QUOTE, BE AWARE THAT PUTTING THIS KIND OF BROAD RESTRICTION ON THINGS AND AUTOMATICALLY MOVING THINGS THAT ARE APPROPRIATE FOR CHILDREN BASED ON ONE STANDARD COULD POTENTIALLY OPEN UP DOORS TO RISK . PLEASE CONSIDER THAT ELEMENTS OF THE PROPOSED COLLECTION POLICY COULD INDEED PUT THE CITY OF VICTORIA AT RISK AND MAY TRIGGER LEGAL ACTION AGAINST THE CITY AND VARIOUS CLASS-ACTION LAWSUITS. PLEASE INVESTIGATE HOW MUCH TAXPAYERS SUBSIDIZE TIME , EFFORT, AND MONEY WAS EXPENDED BY CITY OFFICES IN GRAND PRAIRIE, TEXAS, OR --, TEXAS TO DEFEND AGAINST FEDERAL INVESTIGATION AND LAWSUITS. IS THIS REALLY THE BEST USE OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS IN THE CITY? DO WE TRULY WANT VICTORIA TO COME UP WITH THE CITIES IN THE GOOGLE SEARCH OF SHAME? HOW DOES THIS HELP OUR CITY'S REPUTATION AND MAKE US STRONGER ? PLEASE REMEMBER THAT OUR PUBLIC LIBRARY RECEIVES FEDERAL FUNDING AND IS SUBJECT TO THE GUIDELINES OF THE TITLE IX OF THE 1972 CIVIL RIGHTS ACT AND ITS PENDING AMENDMENTS WHICH WOULD BROADEN THE SCOPE OF DISCRIMINATION TO INCLUDE SEXUAL ORIENTATION AND GENDER IDENTITY AND WHAT EXTEND EXCLUSIONARY PROVISIONS BEYOND EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS. PERSONS THAT ARE GAY OR TRANCE REGARDLESS OF THEIR AGE ARE CITIZENS. THEY ARE ENTITLED TO AMENITIES, DUE PROCESS OF LAW, EQUAL PROTECTION OF THE LAWS CODIFIED BY THE 14TH AMENDMENT OF THE CONSTITUTION. HONORABLE COUNCIL MEMBERS, I KNOW EACH OF YOU WANT TO DO WHAT IS BEST FOR THIS COMMUNITY. I IMPLORE YOU TO CONSIDER THE NEEDS OF ALL OF OUR CITIZENS . PLEASE BE VIGILANT IN STANDING UP AGAINST BIGOTRY AND DISCRIMINATION MASQUERADING AS VIRTUE AND MORALITY. THIS IS NOT GROOMING OR INDOCTRINATION. THIS IS INCLUSION AND EMPATHY. PLEASE BE GUARDIANS OF WISDOM AND KNOWLEDGE INSTEAD OF LOVERS OF SPECTACLE. SO SAY WE ALL. >> THANK YOU. MR. --? >> GOOD EVENING MAYOR, COUNCIL. I JUST WANTED TO CONGRATULATE JULIE --, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW HER. SHE GOT A PROMOTION TO DISTRICT JUDGE. WE HAVE PLENTY OF FELONS IN VICTORIA SO SHE WILL BE VERY BUSY. ALSO, FAMILY DOLLAR , THEY ARE STILL DUMPING STUFF. THEY JUST DUMPED ON THE WEEKEND A BIG LA-Z-BOY. NOW THEY HAVE A BOXSPRING, BIG COUCH, AND A LA-Z-BOY AND THREE POLICE CARS CAME BECAUSE THEY HAVE [00:30:01] DIVERS COMING LOOKING FOR TRASH OR WHATEVER. TO US IT IS TRASH, BUT TO THEM IT MIGHT BE CALLED WHATEVER THEY FIND. CAN'T THEY DIG THROUGH THE DUMPSTER AFTER THEY CLOSE . WHY DOES IT ALWAYS HAVE TO BE IN BUSINESS HOURS. ALSO, ON TUESDAY, LAST TUESDAY , THEY HAD SOME BRISKET STEW AT CHRIST KITCHEN. I WOULD'VE PLAYED 20 BUCKS FOR. IT WAS PRETTY GOOD. ALSO, THEY ARE GIVING FREE FOOD AT 2802 LONETREE LOW ROAD. YOU CAN GET IT ON THE 17TH BETWEEN 1:00 AND 3:00. YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN IDEA AND THE PHONE NUMBER IS 361-433-3538 . I WANTED TO THANK THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR CHASING THE OFFENDER IN THE TRAILER PARK. HE NEEDS TO UPDATE HIS MAILING ADDRESS AND PHYSICAL ADDRESS. I APPRECIATE THE WORK EVERYONE HAS DONE. THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. >> THANK YOU. MR. HESTER? >> HELLO . I HAVE BEEN IN VICTORIA FOR ABOUT HOW KIDS CAN BE INFLUENCED BY CERTAIN THINGS IN MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. MY PARENTS WERE DIVORCED AND WE MOVED TO BEAUMONT TEXAS WHEN I WAS 10. BEFORE THAT I MOVED INDISCERNIBLE ] . I RAN N ACRO SOME KIDS PUT WHEELS ON IT SO THEY COULD GO DOWN THE HILLS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. ANYWAY, I AM WALKING BY AND THEY INCLUDED ME IN A PARTICULAR ROLE OF MAKING SURE THAT IF A CAR IS COMING BY IT WAS MY RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DIDN'T RUN DOWN IT. I WAS AT BEST FIVE YEARS OLD AT THAT POINT SO I GUESS I WAS A BIT GULLIBLE TO DO THAT. A CAR CAME UP DOWN THE ROAD, STOPPED, SOMEBODY GOT OUT IN THE CAR JUST SAT THERE. I SAID, THERE IS A CAR THERE. HE TOLD ME NOT TO LET YOU GO THERE IS A CAR THERE. WE GOT INTO THIS DEBATE WITH ME OUT THERE BY THE SIDEWALK AND THUMB UP ON THE HILL. THEY KEPT SAYING YOU KEEP SAYING THERE'S A CAR THERE, THERE ISN'T A CAR THERE. SO I GAVE IN AND SAID OKAY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAND MOTION A METER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT WOULD CAUSE THE KIDS TO COME DOWN OR FORWARD. WHAT I SAW WAS IT WENT UNDERNEATH THE CAR AND THEY WERE DRAGGED A LONG DISTANCE, SPARKS FLYING , NOT A PRETTY PICTURE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THE KID. ALL I KNOW IS AFTER A WHILE A BUNCH OF PARENTS FOR THEIR AND I FIGURED IT WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO LEAVE. THAT WAS TRAUMATIC. VERY MUCH SO TO A KID AND FOR ME. YOU HAVE TO WATCH OUT HOW KIDS ARE INFLUENCE. I WILL TELL YOU THAT AFTER THAT I DID IN A COUPLE DIFFERENT INSTANCES TELL SOMEONE STOP WHEN THEY ARE BARKING UP SO THEY WOULDN'T OVER KID AND STUFF LIKE THAT. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU SINCE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT STUFF GOING ON WITH THINGS THERE IS SOMETHING THAT PAXTON SAID AND HE TALKED ABOUT SUMMARIZING SOME STUFF. HE TOOK PROCEDURES WHEN SAID WHEN PERFORMED ON CHILDREN COULD LEGALLY CONSTITUTE CHILD ABUSE UNDER SEVERAL PROVISIONS OF CHAPTER 261 OF THE TEXAS FAMILY CODE. THEY HAVE PEOPLE SAYING, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT AND OTHER PEOPLE SAYING, WHAT DOES THE LAW SAY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. WITH THAT WE [D. Consent Agenda:] CLOSE CITIZENS COMMUNICATION. WE DON'T HAVE ANY ITEMS WITH THE PUBLIC . WHILE WE ARE GOING THROUGH THE AGENDA I ASKED MR. FOOTE TO COME UP. I SOMEHOW CAME OUT OF THE CORRECT SCREEN. AGENDA . SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. MOTION CARRIES. ITEM U [1. Appoint members to the Tourism Advisory Board. April Hilbrich, City Se...] NUMBER ONE [00:35:37] >> MAYOR, IS IT OKAY OF APRIL PROCEEDS AS HE IS LOADING THE MANUAL? >> JAMES WILL GET THE PRESENTATION SET UP. THE DON'T BOARD DOES ADVISE ON SUCH MATTERS VOTING MEMBERS, AND THE TRAILER THEY SERVE TWO YEAR TERMS. IT IS A LARGE BOARD. THREE VOTING MEMBERS FROM LODGING, TWO FROM ARTS, ONE FROM HISTORICAL PRESERVATION, ONE FROM BC, ONE FROM DOWNTOWN BUSINESS DISTRICT, FOOD AND BEVERAGE, ONE FROM RETAIL, ONE FOR ATTRACTION, AND ONE FOR OUTDOORS. THE NONVOTING MEMBERS ARE ALL CITY STAFF. INDISCERNIBLE ] . WE HAVE SEVERAL APPOINTMENTS TO DO TONIGHT. THERE ARE EIGHT MEMBERS WE NEED TO APPOINT. THE SPORTS AND OUTDOOR TOURISM AND RETAIL, THOSE FOUR WE ONLY HAVE ONE APPLICANT FOUR AND THEY CURRENTLY SERVE. FOR THAT WE ARE ASKING IF YOU ARE WILLING TO REAPPOINT. AND -- ARE ALL MULTIPLE PEOPLE TO BE CONSIDERED FOR THE POSITIONS. AS I JUST MENTIONED, THE REAPPOINTMENTS ARE FOR YOU HB, SPORTS AND OUTDOOR TOURISM, AND RETAIL TRADERS HIM. >> I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT. >> SECONDED . >> MOTION AND SECOND TO REAPPOINT THOSE NUMBERS. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE . MOTION CARRIES. >> MAKES FOUR CATEGORIES ALL HAVE MULTIPLE CATEGORIES. I WILL STOP ON THE NEXT PAGE SO YOU CAN SEE THE APPLICANTS. THERE ARE BALLOTS ON YOUR DESK. THEY ALL HAVE YOUR NAMES ON THEM. THE FIRST WE WILL GO TO IS ATTRACTIONS. WE HAVE WILSON AND WELCH. >> ABSTAINING IS NOT AN OPTION. WELCH. THE NEXT INDUSTRY WE NEED TO VOTE ON WILL BE THE FOOD AND BEVERAGE INDUSTRY WHERE WE HAVE JENNIFER WILLIAMS AND BRIAN KEITH TO CONSIDER. >> WHILE SHE IS COUNTING ON TO, [00:40:01] THAT LOOKING AT THESE IT IS SO HARD TO PICK ONE. I AM FILLED WITH EVERYBODY THAT HAS APPLIED. IF WE DID AND FOR SOME REASON PICK YOU PLEASE APPLY AGAIN. >> YES, MA'AM. QUITE A FEW GREAT APPLICANTS. BRIAN KEITH NAME WILL BE ENTERED IN THAT ONE. NEXT INDUSTRY IS THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS DISTRICT . WE HEARD FROM BOTH APPLICANTS AND ALL APPLICANTS WERE INVITED TO SPEAK TO MY IF THEY CHOSE. MANY COULD NOT MAKE IT. JENNIFER HIGH WILL BE THAT PARTICULAR CATEGORY. THE NEXT CATEGORY HAS FOUR INDIVIDUALS. PLEASE CIRCLE THE ONE YOU WOULD LIKE TO VOTE FOR . SEE IF WE CAN GET THIS DONE IN ONE POINT, TOO. MORE THAN ONE VOTE HERE. WE HAVE TWO FOR MICHAEL TIER, TWO FOR MICHELLE HALL, AND TWO FOR MARK. OUT OF THOSE THREE JUST USE THOSE THREE. WE HAVE A THREE, TWO, AND TWO. THE ONE WITH THREE IS MICHELLE HALL SO HER NAME WILL GO INTO THAT RESOLUTION. MOTION TO COMPLETE THE PROCESS? >> I MAKE THE MOTION. DO WE ACCEPT BASS, --, AND -- TO THE BOARD? >> I SECOND. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. SCOTT WAS CORRECT. THANK YOU ALL FOR APPLYING FOR THE POSITION . PLEASE PUT YOUR NAME IN THE HAT AGAIN. WE APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME [2. Approve a professional services agreement with Madden Media Preprint, ...] TO VOLUNTEER. RESOLUTION TO APPROVE A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH MADDEN MEDIA PREPRINT, LLC FOR TOURISM BRENNAN STUDY AND AN AMOUNT OF $57,500. >> I'M THE DIRECTOR OF THE CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU AND WE HAVE A. IT HAS BEEN UP PROJECT WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE IN THE BUDGET PROCESS. SOMETHING WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO. I HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION INTRODUCING THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF THE PROCESS AND I WILL THEN INTRODUCE DALE WHAT WORTH FROM MADDEN MEDIA PREPRINT TO PROVIDE A PRESENTATION. WHAT ARE WE LOOKING FOR WHEN WE SAY TOURISM BRANDING STUDY? A COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT WHAT MAKES US UNIQUE AND HOW WE SHOULD BE MARKETING OURSELVES AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE TO BRING PEOPLE FROM OUT OF THE COMMUNITY. RESEARCH, STRATEGY, DEVELOPMENT, AND ACTIVATION AND EVALUATION. WHAT DOES THAT COMPRISE OF ONE TALKING ABOUT A TOURISM BRANDING STUDY? A BRAND ACTION PLAN. ADDRESSING BOTH THE BRANDING AND MARKETING COMPONENTS INCLUDING THINGS LIKE OUR ALTERNATE LOGOS, URL WHICH IS CURRENTLY EXPLORE VICTORIA TEXAS.COM. IF WE CHANGE OUR BRANDING WE CAN SEE THAT CHANGE. A BRAND STATEMENT. DIFFERENT CITIES HAVE DIFFERENT TAGLINES. RIGHT NOW WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ONE RIGHT NOW. WHAT ARE THOSE STATEMENTS AND WHAT ARE THEY SAYING ABOUT YOUR [00:45:05] COMMUNITY. --. BELIEVE IT OR NOT WE DON'T HAVE ONE OF THOSE. WE HAVE CAPITAL TAXES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WE DON'T HAVE ONE. WE HAVE A LOT ABOUT VICTORIA THAT MAKES US UNIQUE AND I THINK WE CAN FIND SOMETHING THAT ALIGNS TO GIVE US SOME PUBLICITY OUT THERE AND GIVE US ONE OF THOSE FUND DESIGNATIONS IN THE STATE. AS WELL OF A COUPLE HASHTAGS WE CAN USE ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIAS. WHAT KIND OF HASHTAGS CAN MUSIC COINCIDE WITH A POSSIBLE NEW BRAND. BRANDING GUIDELINES AND STYLE GUIDES. THAT MEANS COLOR PALETTES, FONTS, DIFFERENT THINGS USED TO STRUCTURE LOGO, WEBSITE, ALL OF THAT AFFECTS HOW YOU PROMOTE YOURSELF. KEY MESSAGES FOR INDIVIDUAL AUDIENCES SUCH AS LEISURE, SPORTS, AND MEETING OFFICES. AND ACCOUNTABILITY PLAN WHICH MEASURE SUCCESS OF THE PROJECT. WHY DO WE NEED THIS, WHAT IS OUR CURRENT BRAND ? THAT IS IT RIGHT THERE. EXPLORE VICTORIA, TEXAS LOGO. OUR LOGO AND CURRENT BRAND NAME. THE FACT IS THEY WERE NEVER STRATEGICALLY DEVELOPED. IT AFFECTS EVERYTHING, WHAT OUR WEBSITE LOOKS LIKE, PRINTED MATERIALS, ADVERTISEMENTS. THESE WERE JUST DEVELOPED THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, DIFFERENT FREELANCERS WORKING WITH INPUT FROM DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND WE NEVER HIRED A TRUE PROFESSIONAL MARKETING AGENCY THAT HAD EXPERIENCE IN WORKING WITH OTHER DESTINATIONS TO DESIGN WHAT OUR LOOK AND FEEL IS WHEN MARKETING OURSELVES AS A COMMUNITY. SO MUCH HAS CHANGED IN THE LAST 10 YEARS. THERE IS A LOT OF ENERGY AND EXCITEMENT AND WE FEEL LIKE IT IS A GREAT TIME TO ADDRESS THAT EXCITEMENT WITH NEW WAYS TO MARKET OURSELVES. UPCOMING BICENTENNIAL IS A GREAT TIME TO REASSESS AND REFRESH A BRAND TO PROMOTE YOURSELF TO A GREATER EXTENT IN THE STATE AND COUNTRY. SO HOW DO WE FIND THAT IN MEDIA? IT IS A THOROUGH PROCESS. DIDN'T JUST PICK OUT OF A HAT. WE WORK WITH CITY OF VICTORIA PURCHASING DEPARTMENT FOR A COMPETITIVE BIDDING PROCESS AND WE HAD THAT OUT FOR ABOUT A MONTH. WE DID RECEIVE A TOTAL OF FIVE BIDS. FIVE CITY STAFF MEMBERS COMPRISE THE COMMITTEE THAT SCORED THE BIDS INCLUDING MYSELF, ELIZABETH TICE, NANCY BRITT, ASHLEY SIEGEL, AND WILLIAMS. MADDEN MEDIA PREPRINT PRESENTED THE BEST VALUE AND WAS THE HIGHEST GOING BED IN THE PROCESS. WE ARE EXCITED TO WORK WITH HIM. I'VE KNOWN MULTIPLE MEMBERS OF THEIR STAFF FOR YEARS NOW . NOW I WILL BE INTRODUCING MR. WHAT WITH PRESENTING ON BEHALF OF MADDEN MEDIA. HE IS A 26 YEAR VETERAN OF THE TOURISM INDUSTRY IN TEXAS SPENDING OVER A DECADE AND A HALF WITH THE FREDERICKSBURG CONVENTION BUSINESS BUREAU BEFORE COMING TO MADDEN MEDIA. CURRENTLY SERVES ON THE TEXAS TRAVELERS BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND WORKS WITH LOCAL AND STATE LEVEL DESTINATIONS TO GROW THEIR SUSTAINABLE TOURISM INDUSTRIES. WITHOUT FURTHER ADO I LIKE TO INTRODUCE MR. WERE WORTH IN HIS PRESENTATION FOR MADDEN MEDIA. >> GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE THIS EVENING. UNDERSTAND THIS WILL BE A RELATIVELY INFORMAL PRESENTATION BECAUSE I WANT YOU TO KNOW WHO YOU ARE ENTRUSTING THE FUTURE TOURISM BRAND OF THE CITY OF VICTORIA TWO. FEEL FREE TO ASK ME ANY QUESTIONS AS WE GO THROUGH THIS. IF THERE IS ANYTHING THAT PIQUES YOUR CURIOSITY STOP ME AND ASK QUESTIONS. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN WITH IS GIVE YOU A BRIEF INTRODUCTION OF WHO WILL BE WORKING ON THIS SO YOU GET AN IDEA OF THE QUALIFICATIONS AS WELL AS THE TEAM AND THE PROCESS WILL BE USING , THE COST, AND WE WILL SHOW YOU A DETAILED BREAKDOWN OF THAT. WHO WE ARE, MADDEN MEDIA IS THE PROVERBIAL AMERICAN SMALL BUSINESS END BASE THROUGHOUT THE NATION . THAT IS SOMETHING WE ARE PROUD OF BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO BRING IN GREAT PEOPLE GREAT EXPERIENCE IN TOURISM BRANDING. 20% OF OUR TEEN USED TO WORK IN DESTINATION MARKETING ORGANIZATIONS. THE M.O. ONE OF THE MORE COMMONLY USED TERMS IN DESCRIBING WHAT WE DO. ONE THING I'M ALWAYS PROUD ABOUT TALKING ABOUT MADDEN MEDIA IS [00:50:02] THAT , MY CELL, I WAS WITH FREDERICKSBURG FOR 20 YEARS. I WAS A CLIENT OF MADDEN MEDIA. SOUND BAD WHEN I TELL YOU THIS, BUT COVID , WE ARE ONE OF THE BUSINESSES COVID HELPED. WE WENT AWAY FROM HAVING OUR STAFF ISOLATED IT TO A BUILDING TO HAVE SOME OF THE BEST STAFF THROUGHOUT THE NATION. THOSE ASSIGNED TO WORK IT WILL LITERALLY GO FROM NEW YORK TO TEXAS AND OVER TO TUCSON. GET THE BEST MIX WE CAN FOR YOU. OF COURSE, AS MENTIONED ON THE BOTTOM, THERE ARE SEVERAL OF US IN TEXAS WORKING DIRECTLY WITH JOEL MOVING FORWARD. TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF HOW WE VISUALIZE TOURISM, WE BELIEVE IN REPRESENTATIVE STORYTELLING. YOUR BRAND AND NEW CREATIVE ASSETS WILL SHOW THAT EVERYONE CAN LIVE, WORK, AND EXPLORE VICTORIA THROUGH AN INCLUSIVE STORYTELLING WAY. WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT A DMO DOES THE FULL AND MAIN OBLIGATION OR RESPONSIBILITY IS TO INSPIRE PEOPLE TO WANT TO VISIT. ONCE WE'VE DONE THAT ONE HALF THE BATTLE. WE WILL ALSO USE A LOT OF DESTINATION INTELLIGENCE. WITH THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WE HAVE ABLE TO GLEAN TRANSITION DATA FROM WEBSITES, ET CETERA, WE HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION WE CAN BRING FOR DOING THE INTELLIGENCE WE NEED HERE. TRAVEL MAKES THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE. BUILDS PARKS AND SCHOOLS. EXPOSING NEW PEOPLE TO VICTORIA IT WILL BRING NEW TAX DOLLARS TO THE COMMUNITY AND ALLOW YOU TO GROWOW YOUR COMMUNITY GOING FORWARD. WE ALSO BELIEVE IN SUSTAINABLE TOURISM. I'VE ALWAYS TOLD THE PEOPLE WHO I WORK WITH THE HAVING BEEN FROM -- I WILL NEVER MAKE A DECISION THAT WILL NEGATIVELY IMPACT YOUR -- IF IT IS NOT A DECISION I WOULD MAKE FOR MYSELF. WE ALWAYS BRING OURSELVES THAT WAY. AND RESPONSIBLE MARKETING. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HEARD OF OVERT TERRORISM. WE SEE A LOT OF COMMUNITIES FACING OVER TOURISM. WE ARE ALWAYS MINDFUL THAT BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE, WORK, AND VISIT. WHAT DOES MADDEN MEDIA OFFER AS FAR AS SERVICES? WE ARE A FULL-SERVICE DESTINATION MARKETING AGENCY. WE DO BASICALLY EVERYTHING IN THE TOURISM MARKETING FIELD. STRATEGY, PURCHASE MEDIA. WITH THE AMOUNT IN PERSPECTIVE WE ARE A GOOGLE PREMIER PARTNER. WE ARE IN THE TOP 3% WHEN IT COMES TO ADVERTISING ON MEDIA. THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT. WE DO A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF RESEARCH. WE HAVE A TEAM DEVOTED STRICTLY TO RESEARCHING ONLINE TRENDS, MOVEMENTS, THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE CAN USE TO MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS FOR OUR PARTNERS WERE LOOKING TO TARGET VISITORS AND BRING THEM AT THE RIGHT TIME TO THE DESTINATION. WE HAVE FULL CREATIVE TEAMS. PEOPLE DESIGNING EVERYTHING FROM BILLBOARDS, VIDEOS, TO NATIONALLY AWARD-WINNING PROJECTS. MARKETING TECHNOLOGY. MOST OF YOU CONSIDER THAT TO BE WEBSITES. WE BUILD CUSTOM WEBSITES, BUT WE BUILD THEM WITH THE MIND-SET THAT THE WEBSITE IS THE FRONT TOWARD YOUR COMMUNITY AND YOU SHOULD HAVE OWNERSHIP OF THAT FRONT DOOR. SO WE ALLOW OUR PARTNERS TO EVOLVE AND DEVELOP THEIR OWN WEBSITES AFTER WE LAUNCH THEM. WE ALSO OFFER PUBLIC RELATIONS MEANING WE ARE FULLY INTO ALL COMPONENTS OF WHAT YOU MIGHT NEED EVEN THOUGH WE ARE JUST HERE FOR A BRANDING STUDY. THIS IS JUST A SMALL LIST OF ALL THE PARTNERS WE HAVE. I HAVE NUMEROUS PARTNERS IN TEXAS AND WE HAVE THEM THROUGHOUT THE NATION. WE WORK WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE. WE ARE ALWAYS VERY CONSCIENTIOUS OF WHAT TEAMS REASSIGNED TO WHAT CITIES SO THAT THEY ARE NOT DIRECTLY COMPETING CITIES. FOR EXAMPLE, -- ARE VERY CLOSE TOGETHER. COMPLETELY SEPARATE TEAMS WORKING ON THEM SO THERE IS NO CROSS-POLLINATION, SO TO SPEAK, AND WE ARE NOT COMPETING IN THAT RESPECT. AS I MENTIONED, WE SPECIALIZE IN TOURISM. PROBABLY 95% OF THE BUSINESSES WE WORK WITH OUR TOURISM RELATED. THE OTHER 5% ARE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR SOMEBODY ELSE COME TO US AND SAID YOU DID SUCH A GREAT JOB IN TOURISM WE WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH YOU. WHAT YOU SEE HERE SO LIST OF NATIONAL AWARDS WE WON FROM CLIENTS LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. A COUPLE ON THE FAR LEFT-HAND SIDE THERE ARE -- . WE WON TWO AWARDS FROM THEM THIS PAST YEAR. WE ARE VERY PROUD OF WHAT WE DO ON AN AWARD-WINNING STANDPOINT. THIS IS SOME OF THE PEOPLE WILL BE WORKING WITH. OUR CEO IS A FORMER WEST POINT GRADUATE. OUR [00:55:02] -- HAS BEEN IN THE INDUSTRY 20 PLUS YEARS. I AM JUST UP THE ROAD IN FREDERICKSBURG. DASHES IN TUCSON. -- UP IN THE FORT WORTH AREA AND HOLLY IS IN TYLER. YOUR FOLKS IN TEXAS AND OTHER PLACES TO LOOK AT YOUR DESTINATION WITH A FRESH SET OF EYES. THE PRICING WE PUT FORTH IS $7500 . WE WILL NOT BE SO BOLD AS TO TELL YOU THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND VICTORIA WITHOUT SPENDING TIME HERE AND PUTTING BOOTS ON THE GROUND HERE. WE WILL HAVE OUR TEAM COME DOWN AND COORDINATE WITH JOEL AND HIS TEAM. WE WILL HAVE ON BOARDING RESEARCH. WE WILL DO IS IN THE AMOUNT OF RESEARCH ON THE BACKEND, BUT WE ALSO NEED TIME TO TALK TO THOSE OF YOU HERE ON THE ADVISORY BOARD. WE WILL ALSO TALK TO VISITORS WHO HAVE COME TO VICTORIA AND FIND OUT WHY THEY'VE COME. WE CAN EVEN DEVELOP YOUR BRAND, PRODUCT, AND GIVE A TOOLBOX TO JOEL AND HIS TEAM GOING FORWARD. OUR TIMELINE IS APPROXIMATELY SEVEN MONTHS. BASED ON EXPERIENCE WITH DOING BRANDING PROCESSES THIS IS A FAIRLY REALISTIC, NOT AN OVERLY OPTIMISTIC, BUT NOT A DRAGON YOUR FEET TIGHT TIMELINE. ONCE WE GET A HEARING GET IN MARKET WE WILL START BUILDING OFF OF THAT. WE DO ALL THE RESEARCH ON THE BACK AND WHETHER WE ARE HERE OR NOT. QUESTION, SIR? THIS IS A TIMELINE WE WILL USE BEGINNING TONIGHT ASSUMING THIS IS APPROVED. WE WILL BEGIN WORKING ON WHEN WE CAN BRING OUR STAFF DOWN. ON THE BACKEND WE WILL HAVE OUR ORGANIC SPECIALIST WORKING, DIGITAL MARKET SPECIALS WORKING FINDING ALL THE DATA WE CAN GLEAN. HOPEFULLY BY AUGUST WE WILL HAVE YOUR BRAND YOU ARE HAPPY WITH. I WILL TELL YOU, THIS IS ONE THING JOEL AND I DISCUSSED, IF WE DON'T GET IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME AND D WE BRING YOU SOMETHING YOU FEEL IS NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF YOUR CITY WE WILL GO BACK AND TWEAK IT. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE, WAS SOMETHING YOU'RE HAPPY WITH. ONE THING TO REMEMBER WHEN YOU ARE DOING BRANDING, FOR WHAT WE ARE DOING FOR TOURISM WHERE SPEAKING TO PEOPLE WHO DO NOT LIVE IN VICTORIA. SO WHILE YOU KNOW VICTORIA VERY WELL WHO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COMMUNICATING SOMETHING ABOUT VICTORIA THAT MAKES PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN HOUSTON, SAN ANTONIO, DALLAS WANT TO VISIT YOUR COMMUNITY. OUR APPROACH WILL BE VERY SIMPLE. WILL CONDUCT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF RESEARCH , WORK ON STRATEGIZING WITH JOEL AND HIS TEAM AND OUR TEAM . WE WILL BEGIN TO BUILD THE BRAND AND ONCE WE'VE GOT IT BUILT WE WILL HAND THEM A TOOLBOX THEY CAN USE AND GIVE INSIGHTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS AND ADJUSTMENTS ON HOW TO DO THAT GOING FORWARD. GOING A LITTLE DEEPER HERE SOME OF THE PROCESSES. WE WILL ANALYZE ALL THE DATA YOU HAVE. THERE IS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF DATA AVAILABLE TO US WE INDISCERNIBLE ]. NOT JUST WHAT PEOPLE ARE SEARCHING LATELY REGARDING THE LIBRARY. THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER STUFF OUT THERE. THERE IS A LOT OF INFORMATION WE HAVE BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF BUSINESS IN THE TOURISM INDUSTRY. WE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE CAN FIND AND WHERE TO GET IT AND BRING THAT HERE. WE WILL DO AS MUCH DATA COLLECTION AS WE CAN FOR VICTORIA TO GET THE RIGHT MOOD AND FEEL FOR THE COMMUNITY. WE WILL THEN ASSESS WHERE WE ARE, WHERE YOU IN YOUR TOURISM LIFESTYLE. WHAT PRODUCTS YOU TO COME IN. WHAT EXISTING PRODUCTS MAYBE AREN'T AS POPULAR AS THEY USED TO BE. WE WILL ALSO LOOK AT DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE SEASONALITY AND WHAT ELSE WE CAN DO. WE WILL DECIDE WHERE WE WANT TO GO AND THAT IS FOR YOU AND THE ADVISER COMMITTEE TO POINT OUT AND HELP US. TELL US WHERE IT IS IS A TOURISM DESTINATION VICTORIA WANTS TO GO. WE WILL DEVELOP A PLAN TO HELP YOU GET THERE AND WE WILL MEASURE HOW WE ARE DOING ALONG THE WAY. WE DON'T JUST SET IT AND FORGET THESE THINGS, PUT IT OUT THERE AND SAY THIS IS PRETTY. WE CAN RUN BRAND STUDIES ON THE BACK ENDS AND ASSESS PEOPLE AND FIND OUT THE SURVEYS WHAT THEY THINK OF VICTORIA, DID THEY SEE OUR ADS, HAS THE PERCEPTION CHANGED. THE BEST WAY TO PROVIDE DESCRIBE BRAND DEVELOPMENT IS LIKE A DISTILLATION PROCESS. WHILE THIS MAY NOT SIT WELL WITH SOME FOLKS IT IS A PERFECT ANALOGY. WE WILL TAKE THE RAW MATERIALS AND BREAK IT DOWN AND MILLET. DISTILLATE. LET IT DRAMATIC AND GIVE IT TIME TO PERFORM IN MARKET. AND THEN WE WILL HAVE THE RIGHT BRAND THAT YOU NEED FOR VICTORIA GOING FORWARD. ONCE WE HAVE EVERYTHING WE WILL WORK TO ACTIVATE IT. SIMPLY HANDING THE IMAGE LOGO TAGLINE , WHATEVER IT IS WE END UP WITH TO JOEL IS NOT GOING TO BENEFIT HIM ENOUGH. WE WILL UTILIZE OUR YEARS OF EXPERTISE , INSIGHT, AND INTELLIGENCE TO HELP THEM MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS GOING FORWARD WE CAN BRING IN MORE PEOPLE. THAT IS WHAT WE WILL DO IN A QUICK NUTSHELL . I AM HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. [01:00:08] >> ONLY HAVE ONE CONCERN AND THAT IS HOW DOES THE BRANDING STUDY FOR VICTORIA FIT IN AND IS IT DIFFERENT THAN THE BICENTENNIAL CELEBRATION? >> THE BICENTENNIAL CELEBRATION IS A ONE-TIME EVENT . FULL DISCLOSURE, AS JOEL MENTIONED, I AM FROM FREDERICKSBURG, I JUST FINISHED SERVING ON THE 175 ANNIVERSARY THERE. WITH TITAN WITH THAT WAS A LOT OF MARKETING DURING THAT YEAR DONE BY THE -- WAS PROMOTING THE HISTORIC ASPECT OF THE CELEBRATION. THE BRAND THAT WE GIVE YOU SHOULD BE AN OVERARCHING FEEL FOR THE COMMUNITY AND IT CAN BE CELEBRATED THROUGH THE BICENTENNIAL. WORKING THOSE KIND OF THINGS TOGETHER , I DON'T MEAN TO SOUND CAVALIER, BUT IT IS FAIRLY SIMPLE AND I HAVE PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH IT ALREADY. >> GREAT. >> I THINK IT SOUNDS GREAT. I DIDN'T REALIZE UNTIL I READ THIS HOW MUCH I LIKE EXPORT VICTORIA AND I DID NOT KNOW WHERE HE CAME FROM. SO I WANTED TO DO A SHOUT OUT TO WHOEVER DEVELOPED THAT. BUT I KNOW WE NEED TO DO MORE. >> THANK YOU. >> WOULD LIKE TO ADD ONE THING, ADD MORE COLOR TO THAT, PLEASE. >> I MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> SECOND. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR COMMENTS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR [3. Approve submission of an application to FEMA's Building Resilient Infr...] SAY . AYE . MOTION CARRIED. LETTER E 3 . PROVE SUBMISSION OF AN APPLICATION TO FEMA BUILDING RESILIENT INFRASTRUCTURE AND COMMUNITIES GRANT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE OFF-CHANNEL RESERVOIR INTERCONNECT PROJECT INDISCERNIBLE ] >> THANK YOU. REALLY QUICKLY, I DO NOT HAVE A PRESENTATION BUT I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW FOR MY PART OF IT WORKING ON THE SUBMISSION FOR THE FEMA WORK FOR THIS PROJECT THIS CONSTITUTES THE INDISCERNIBLE ] . THE ONLY OTHER THING I WANTED TO MENTION IS THE TIMELINE AND I KNOW FEMA IS NOT SPECIFIC ABOUT IT BUT I THINK IT WOULD TAKE TWO TO EIGHT MONTHS TO HEAR IF WE'VE BEEN AWARDED THIS PROJECT. IF YOU HAVE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS I DO HAVE 10 KEN HERE . >> SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS? >> PROBABLY. IT WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH A MULTISTEP PROCESS BECAUSE IT IS BEING SUBMITTED TO FEMA THROUGH --. HAS TO GO THROUGH THEIR PROCESS AND THEN FEMA'S PROCESS. >> TO THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO WEIGH IN ON IT? >> ABSOLUTELY. >> THANK YOU. >> HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS . >> HOW MANY GRAVEL PITS OR OPTIONAL RESERVOIRS WOULD WE BE CONNECTING UNDER THIS ONE? 11 AND THERE ARE THREE OF THEM THAT THE ELEVATIONS MAKE VERY DIFFICULT. THEY ARE LOWER THAN THE OTHER ONES. WE WOULD PROPOSE AT LEAST GETTING THE THREE LARGEST ONCE CONNECTED AND THERE ARE TWO OTHERS THAT IF WE CAN GET IT IN THE MONEY I WOULD GET ALL OF THEM CONNECTED. BASICALLY WE HAVE OFF CHANNEL RESERVOIRS THREE, FOUR, AND EIGHT. CURRENTLY THEY'RE ALL INTERCONNECTED. SMALLER PIPES, BUT THEY ARE CONNECTED. THE LARGER ONES WHICH IS FIVE, SIX, AND SEVEN AREN'T CONNECTED TO THE ONES WE NEED SO WE DO THOSE MANUALLY WITH PUMPS. WE MOVE THE MOTOR, THE PUMP, THE PIPING BACK AND FORTH . WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS CONNECT THE MALL SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT MANUALLY. IT TAKES TWO TO THREE DAYS EACH DAY WE MOVE FROM OFF CHANNEL RESERVOIRS SIX TO GET IT TO SEVEN, TO FIVE TO SIX AND SIX BACK TO EIGHT. IT IS A NIGHTMARE. THAT IS WHAT WE LOOKING AT. ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS IS CURRENTLY THE VOLUME IN THREE, FOUR, AND EIGHT IS ABOUT 775 ACRE-FEET. GETTING FIVE, SIX, AND SEVEN AS [01:05:05] ANOTHER 1500 ACRE-FEET. THAT IS ABOUT 25 SOLID DAYS DURING THE SUMMER OF VOLUME. SO IT IS AN IMPORTANT PROJECT TO GET THOSE CONNECTED SO THAT WE DO NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT DOES THE PUMP BREAK OR IS THE MOTOR BROKEN. BECAUSE WE RUN INTO THAT BEFORE. >> THESE WOULD BE SOLID PIPE INTERCONNECTS AND NOT PUMPS? >> SOLID PUMP OR OPEN CHANNEL. RIGHT NOW IRVING HAS CONTRACTED DISCIPLINARY ENGINEERING TO FIRM UP THE NUMBER, LOOK AT THE ESTIMATES, AND REVISING. THE STUDY WAS DONE BACK IN 2014 SO IT IS AN OLDER STUDY. WE NEED TO GET MORE CURRENT. >> AS FAR AS MAINTENANCE OF THE GROUNDS AROUND -- IT IS ALL IN THE FLOODPLAIN AND LOOKS TO BE AN IMPEDIMENT FOR FLOODWATERS. HAS ALWAYS BEEN OVERGROWN LIKE IT IS NOW? >> IT TYPICALLY HAS. WE HAVE A CONTRACT TO MOW AROUND THE PERIMETERS AND MOW WHERE WE NEED TO. BUT AS FAR AS THAT GROWTH THAT IS THERE, THEN HAS BEEN THERE AND NOT REALLY AN IMPEDIMENT FOR FLOODPLAIN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. WHEN THE RIVER GETS UP ALL OF THE LAKES GO UNDERWATER, WHICH IS A GOOD THING. THEY FILL IT UP. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO ADOPT TO THIS ITEM . >> SECONDED. >> MOTION AND SECOND TO APPROVE ITEM LETTER E 3. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE . MOTION CARRIES . >> I WILL SAY SUMMER DASHE IS [4. Consider the adoption of Library Collection Development Policies. Jesú...] SMILING DOWN. >> THAT IS WHAT I WAS THINKING MYSELF. ITEM LETTER E 4. >> RESOLUTION CONSIDERING THE ADOPTION OF LIBRARY COLLECTION DEVELOPMENT POLICIES. >> BEFORE WE START DISCUSSIONS AND PRESENTATIONS ON THIS CAN WE REASSESS INTO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSULT WITH OUR ATTORNEY AND WE DO PLAN ON COMING BACK OUT AND DISCUSSING THIS ITEM. >> THE COUNCIL WILL REASSESS ON THE THIRD DAY OF JANUARY 2023 AS 6:08 P.M. AND THE EXECUTIVE SESSION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.071. PATIENCE. WE WILL GATHER BACK INTO THE SESSION. WE ALREADY READ ITEM LETTER E 4. >> FOR THE SAKE OF DISCUSSION I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE >> DISCUSSION, I THINK IT WILL BE BEST IF WE GO TO THE POLICY BEFORE US. WE WILL LOOK AT WHAT IS TIGHTER RIGHT NOW JUVENILE YOUNG ADULT POLICY. THIS IS WHAT WAS AMENDED AT THE LAST LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD. DOES ANYONE WANT TO START YOU WANT ME TO START? >> >> THANK YOU. I THINK WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS BEFORE , ADDING YOUNG ADULT BACK INTO THIS WE DECIDED WE WOULD FOLLOW THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF HEALTH GUIDELINE FOR YOUNG ADULTS AS BEING 18 TO 25. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS POLICY HAVE THAT STRICKEN FROM IT. JUST MY OPINION AND WE DO NOT HAVE TO NOD OR AGREE OR ANYTHING RIGHT NOW. BUT THERE WILL BE AMENDMENTS THAT I SEE TO THIS AND THAT WOULD BE ONE I WOULD END UP PROPOSING. >> MEANING YOU WOULD JUST SAY JUVENILE COLLECTION POLICY? >> YES. I PUT THE YOUNG ADULT BACK INTO THE ADULT POLICY WE WILL CONSIDER NEXT MEETING OR THE ONE AFTER THAT. I AM ALL RIGHT WITH THE AGE BEING 17 AND BELOW. SO 18 TO 25 WILL BE THE YOUNG ADULT AND NOT BE COVERED BY THIS POLICY. THERE IS A CHANGE IN THE PURPOSE OF THE [01:10:04] POLICY. IT WAS MADE AT THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD AND, AGAIN, THESE ARE THINGS I AM LOOKING AT AS A FUTURE AMENDMENTS . CULTURAL NORMS IS A VERY TOUGH ONE TO QUANTIFY AND PUT WHAT THAT IS. I MIGHT CONSIDER STRIKING THAT OUT. THE OTHER ONE I REALLY WANT TO JUMP TO -- LET'S STOP THERE . >> I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU ON CUTTING OUT CULTURAL NORMS, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE WANTING TO REMOVE THE OTHER STATEMENTS THAT ARE CROSSED OUT AND JUST GO WITH THE INSERTION MINUS THE CULTURAL NORMS GUIDING PRINCIPLES OF INTELLECTUAL FREEDOM . >> IT IS IN THERE THREE TIMES. >> NEVERMIND. PLEASE GO ON. >> JUST TO BE CLEAR, WHAT YOU ARE SUGGESTING IS LEAVING GUIDING PRINCIPLES OF INTELLECTUAL FREEDOM -- >> THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION. AND I DON'T HAVE A FORMAL AMENDMENT AS OF YET. MISSION STATEMENT I AM FINE WITH. ANYONE HAVE ANY ISSUES ON THE MISSION STATEMENT? NO? PHILOSOPHY, COLLECTION DEVELOPMENT PHILOSOPHY. >> I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT. >> OKAY. >> IT SAYS IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY -- THE LIBRARY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR LOCATING RESOURCES COGNIZANT OF AGE AND CONTENT . ET CETERA, ET CETERA. I THINK IT SHOULD BE THE LIBRARY IS RESPONSIBLE ACCORDING TO THE JUVENILE POLICY FOR PLACEMENT OF MATERIALS , RESPONSIBILITY FOR READING AND VIEWING OF MATERIAL OF ADOLESCENT IS UPON THE PARENT OR GUARDIAN. I SAY THAT BECAUSE THE CHILD CAN GO TO THE ADULT SECTION AND BOUGHT A BOOK. IT IS NOT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE LIBRARIAN, IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PARENT. I WOULD LIKE THAT AT IT. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT. >> I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING IN HERE THAT IS GOING TO SAY THAT THERE IS SOME RESPONSIBILITY ON THE PARENT OR GUARDIAN AND NOT PUT IT ALL ON THE LIBRARY TO MAKE THOSE CHOICES FOR THE PARENT OR GUARDIAN. >> I AGREE WITH THAT. >> ONE THING ON THAT, TOO, ASSUMING THAT THAT DOES COME BACK THE RESPONSIBILITY OF READING OR VIEWING, SELECTION OR VIEWING MIGHT BE A BETTER OPTION IN THAT SENTENCE. I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A CHANGE IN SOME POLICIES ABOUT APPROVING CHECKING OUT BOOKS AND THAT SORT OF THING. MAYBE SOME WORDSMITHING. >> I THINK THE WORD SELECTION IS A BIT OF A PROBLEM BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, THE LIBRARY AND SELECTING THE BOOKS. I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOUR CONCEPT, BUT I THINK THAT WORD IS NOT THE RIGHT ONE. >> OKAY. I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. >> EVEN IF IT GOES WITH THE SELECTION OR VIEWING OF MATERIAL RESTS WITH THE PARENTS? >> MAYBE IT IS CHOICE OF OR VIEWING OF MATERIALS . >> WHAT SHE IS SAYING IS THIS POLICY DEALS WITH THE SELECTION OF BOOKS FOR THE SECTION AND WE DON'T WANT TO CONFUSE IT WITH THE PARENTS OR GUARDIANS BEING IN CHARGE OF SELECTING BOOKS FOR THE LIBRARY. >> OKAY. SO WE WILL LEAVE IT READING AND VIEWING THEN? >> YES. >> I UNDERSTAND. >> ON THE SAME SECTION, THERE IS ALSO A SENTENCE CROSSED OUT . >> THE SENTENCE THAT IS CROSSED OUT IS TO SATISFY THE CURIOSITY OF THE COMMUNITY OF CHILDREN OR ADOLESCENTS. I AM OKAY WITH THAT BEING CROSSED OUT BECAUSE CHILDREN'S CURIOSITY OPENS UP PANDORA'S BOX FOR ME. [01:15:02] >> I THINK YOU GET THAT IN EDUCATION, ENTERTAINMENT, ENRICHMENT AND THE LIKE. BUT THAT IS REDUNDANT. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THE SELECTION MOMENT PHILOSOPHY? ALL RIGHT. RESPONSIBILITY FOR SELECTION. THERE ARE NO PROPOSED CHANGES TO THAT. MATERIAL SELECTION, NO PROPOSED CHANGES TO THAT. >> MY BACKUP ? THE SENTENCE AT THE BOTTOM OF COLLECTION, DEVELOPMENT, AND PHILOSOPHY ABOUT PLACEMENT , THE THING ABOUT PLACEMENT WITHIN THE POLICY DOES IT MAKE MORE SENSE FOR THAT TO BE NOT IN THE DEVELOPMENT PHILOSOPHY SECTION, BUT MAY BE MOVED OVER TO RESPONSIBILITY FOR SELECTION AND MATERIAL SELECTION. IT SEEMS TO BE AN ODD PLACE TO PUT -- >> THERE IS A SECTION CALLED SECTION PLACEMENT, I THINK. >> MAYBE IT MAKES MORE SENSE >> OKAY. >> FOR THE SUBJECT MATTER STANDPOINT OF THE MATERIAL. >> ALL RIGHT . AND THEN WE ARE INTO PAGE TWO, SELECTION CRITERIA . THERE WAS A NUMBER OF BULLET POINTS ADDED . WE WILL LOOK AT THE ONES ON PAGE TWO FIRST. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY CHANGES OR PROPOSED CHANGES THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE , LIKE TO DISCUSS ON ANY OF THOSE TWO THAT ARE THERE? >> IT IS SIGNIFICANT TO SAY THAT THE ONES ON THIS PAGE I AM OKAY WITH PUTTING THEM IN SENSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THERE'S NOT THAT WE PROPOSE, BUT THAT THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD PUT IN. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO SAY THAT I AM OKAY WITH THIS PAGE. I HAVE SOME PROBLEMS ON THE NEXT PAGE. >> OKAY. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. IF THIS IS IN JUVENILE IT IS DIFFERENT THAN YOUNG ADULT. IF THERE IS A BOOK THAT ALLUDES TO KATY CONNALLY AND IS NOT GOING TO ANY GRAPHIC DETAILS HOW DOES THAT FIT IN THERE ? JUST A MEMO SOMETHING THAT CAN HAPPEN AND IT DOES HAPPEN INDIVIDUALS AND MINORS. IT DOESN'T NEED TO GO IN EXPLICIT -- >> I THINK IT WILL BE UP TO THE LIBRARY STAFF TO MAKE SURE IT IS NOT EXPLICIT . >> NOT GLORIFYING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT OR SEXUALIZING IT . I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY USE -- >> USE THEIR PROFESSIONAL JUDGMENT TO MAKE SURE IT IS NOT A SEXUAL DESCRIPTION OF THE INCIDENT. >> BECAUSE THERE ARE GOING TO BE TOPICS THAT ARE DIFFICULT . OKAY. >> ONTO PAGE THREE. WE HAVE FOUR BULLET POINTS HERE AND LOOKING AT THEM I WILL GIVE YOU MY OPINION. THE SECOND TWO THAT WE CONTENT THAT INTRODUCE OR PROMOTES GENDER WHICH CAUSES A CHILD TO QUESTION IF THEY HAVE GENDER DYSPHORIA OR ENCOURAGES A CHILD UNDER 18 YEARS OF AGE TO CONSIDER ELECTRIC ELECTIVE PROCEDURES INCLUDING REASSIGNMENT SURGERIES , ADMINISTRATION OF PUBERTY BLOCKING DRUGS OR INDISCERNIBLE ] PHYSIOLOGIC DOSES OF TESTOSTERONE OR ESTROGEN. I WANT TO SOMEHOW -- I AM ALL RIGHT WITH KEEPING THOSE IN THEIR. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A BETTER WAY TO WRITE IT . I THINK , WHILE THEY CAN BE IMPORTANT TOPICS TO MINORS IT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED IN APRIL AN APPROPRIATE ARENA AND NOT SO MUCH IN THIS SECTION OF THE LIBRARY WHERE IT IS WIDELY AVAILABLE TO A MINOR . IF THAT MAKES SENSE. IT CAN BE A TOPIC [01:20:03] AND IT CAN BE IN THE LIBRARY, JUST NOT IN THIS SECTION BECAUSE I THINK THAT NEUROPSYCHOLOGY , BRAIN DEVELOPMENT , THESE ARE TOPICS THAT WOULD CONFUSE AND OTHERWISE MUDDIED SOMEONE'S BRAIN WHO DOES NOT HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO MAKE RATIONAL DECISIONS OR GO THROUGH SUCH COMPLEX TOPICS BY THEMSELVES. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MAKES SENSE TO YOU ARE NOT. >> I HAVE TROUBLE WITH THIS. I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THERE. I DO BELIEVE THE PART OF THE BOTTOM WORD TALKS WITH THE PENAL CODE I THINK IF THEY JUST QUOTE THE PENAL CODE IN THE POLICY PRETTY MUCH WOULD COVER EVERYTHING THEY HAVE LISTED HERE BUT IN SUCH A WAY THAT I DON'T THINK THAT'S MAYBE IT WOULDN'T COVER THE LAST TWO POINTS , BUT THE REST OF THE STUFF WOULD BE DASHWOOD HAVE A LEGAL FOUNDATION. SOME OF THIS IS WRITTEN VERY SUBJECTIVELY AND THE LAW IS WELL-WRITTEN AND HAS NOT BEEN CHALLENGED . I THINK THOSE LAST TWO THINGS ARE DISCRIMINATORY AND COULD BE VIEWED THAT WAY . I KNOW WE HAVE THE BALANCE BETWEEN WHAT IS LEGALLY RIGHT , BALANCE BETWEEN PEOPLE'S CONCERNS, AND THE BALANCE OF A LIBRARY THAT HAS A GENERAL KNOWLEDGE ON THINGS. I DON'T THINK THOSE SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THIS. THAT IS MY PERSONAL OPINION. THE LAST TWO STATEMENTS SHOULD NOT BE IN THERE. >> DO WE NEED TO MAYBE DO SOME MORE WORK ON THOSE TWO IN RELATION TO THE PENAL CODE AND OPINIONS THAT ARE OUT THERE. COULD BE RESTATED WITH THE PENAL CODE IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT DOESN'T NEED TO LIST EVERY SINGLE ITEM ON HERE BECAUSE THE PENAL CODE IS BROAD ENOUGH TO COVER THOSE ITEMS IN LANGUAGE THAT IS APPROPRIATE FOR A POLICY. >> I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS . >> REALLY QUICK, I WANT TO CLARIFY WHAT YOU NEED THAT WHEN YOU SAY OTHERS. YOU MEANING THE ITEMS ON PAGE TWO THAT YOU HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE ITEMS ON PAGE TWO, AS WELL . >> I DO. >> AND WHEN YOU MAKE THE CALL AND THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO SEE LANGUAGE THAT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE LANGUAGE IN THE PENAL CODE YOU ARE REFERRING THAT WOULD REPLACE ALL OF WHAT IS IN BLUE AS NEW ? >> I THINK IT SHOULD BE LOOKED AT BECAUSE I THINK IT COULD . >> I THINK MARK MEANS ALL OF THE NEW ADDITIONS. >> THAT IS WHAT I AM TRYING TO CLARIFY. >> EXCEPT FOR THE LAST TWO WHICH ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE PENAL CODE AND I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THERE. >> IF THEY ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE PENAL CODE WHY CAN'T WE INCLUDE THEM HERE? >> I DON'T THINK THEY ARE APPROPRIATE. THAT IS MY OPINION. I KNOW YOU DISAGREE WITH ME BECAUSE WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION IN THE OTHER ROOM. I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE INCLUDED. >> I DISAGREE. >> I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ISSUE WITH THOSE WORDS. I HAVEN'T YET DECIDED WITH I AM OKAY LEAVING THOSE IN OR NOT. FOR INSTANCE, THE FEDERAL I WOULD SAY CONTENT THAT INTRODUCES GENDER DYSPHORIA. I THINK PROMOTE GOES TOO FAR. SAME THING WITH ENCOURAGE. I DON'T THINK THAT IS THE POINT OF THE LIBRARY POLICY TO DECIDE THE INTENT OF THE WRITER AND I THINK THAT PROMOTE OR ENCOURAGE IS THE INTENT OF THE WRITER AND NOT A WELL-FORMED THOUGHT IS THAT PERHAPS THIS IN A PERMISSIVE MEANS BELONGS IN THE ADULT POLICY INSTEAD OF PROHIBITING IN THE JUVENILE POLICY. JUST A THOUGHT. >> JUST TO CLARIFY, YOU ARE SUGGESTING , AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE I GET ALL MY NOTES CORRECT, WHAT YOU ARE SUGGESTING JUST THERE IS THE IDEA OF, AS OPPOSED TO RESTRICTING THE LAST TWO BULLETS IN THIS JUVENILE POLICY , TAKING THOSE AND PUTTING THEM INTO THE YOUNG ADULT POLICY IN [01:25:03] A FORM THAT SAYS SOMETHING ALONG THAT DON'T CALL ME HERE -- SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF CONTENT THAT INTRODUCES BLAH, BLAH, BLAH SHOULD BE PLACED IN THE YOUNG ADULT OR ADULT SECTION ? >> THAT WOULD WORK. I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE ANY SUPPORT FOR THAT, BUT THAT IS THE THOUGHT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. >> I AM JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE I KEEP EVERYONE'S IDEAS CLEAR. >> >> I AM READING ONE ON MY PHONE. THERE IS AN ORGANIZATION OUT THERE THE SOCIETY FOR EVIDENCE-BASED GENDER MEDICINE AND WHAT THEY HAVE FOUND IS THAT CHILDHOOD ONSET GENDER DYSPHORIA HAS BEEN SHOWN TO HAVE A HIGH RATE OF NATURAL RESOLUTION IN 61 TO 90% OF CHILDREN WE IDENTIFY WITH THEIR BIOLOGICAL SEX AFTER PUBERTY. THE MAJORITY RESOLVE THEMSELVES SO I INTRODUCE THIS IS A CONCEPT AS A SOLUTION TO GENDER DYSPHORIA INTO THE JUVENILE SECTION. >> I AM NOT SAYING DON'T HAVE BOOKS IN THE LIBRARY. THAT IS MY COMPROMISE, NOT MY PERSONAL WISH. THAT BOOK DUE TO THE FIRST AMENDMENT SHOULD CERTAINLY BE IN THE LIBRARY, JUST NOT IN THE JUVENILE SECTION. >> MY COMMENT AS A WHOLE WOULD BE I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE FREEZE FREEZING UP SOME OF THESE AND THAT GOES A BIT TO WHAT COUNCILWOMAN SCOTT POINTED OUT IN TERMS OF THE REQUIRE SOME SORT OF OBJECTIVE ANALYSIS OR OPINION AS TO INTENT THE REASON BEHIND THE MATERIAL, THAT SORT OF THING, VERSUS WHAT I UNDERSTOOD THE LAW TO BE IN SOME CASES IS APPEALING TO INTEREST. I THINK WHEN WE STARTED GETTING INTO -- THERE ARE THINGS IN HERE ABOUT DESIGNED TO PROMOTE OR TO PROMOTE A CERTAIN ACT OR WHATEVER I THINK YOU GET INTO SOME REALLY SUBJECTIVE OPINIONS AND TO ADDRESS THIS CONTENT THAT IS REQUIRED, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL THERE BECAUSE WE WILL BE RELYING HEAVILY ON STAFF TO SAY DOES THIS OR DOES THIS NOT. AND WITH IF WE DO NOT DRAFT THIS CAREFULLY I THINK IT PUTS THEM IN AN UNFAIR POSITION. WE NEED TO BE COGNIZANT THAT WE CANNOT JUST LEAVE THIS AS OBJECTIVE TO SOME OF THE SIDES, OKAY, IT TO THEM TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING MORE CLEAR. >> IT IS PROBABLY EASY TO PICK OUT BOOKS THAT DOES PROMOTE AND THE DEPICTIONS IN THAT BOOK ARE NOT IN THE JUVENILE SECTION BECAUSE LIBRARIANS REALIZED THAT ONLY BE IN THE JUVENILE SECTION. BUT IF WE MADE THAT DECISION ALREADY BASED ON DEFINING OR PROMOTING MUCH JUST PUT IT IN THE POLICY IF THAT IS WHAT WE EXPECT. >> I HEAR YOU ARE SAYING. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE FOLLOW LANGUAGE EITHER FROM THE STATUTE OR FROM OPINIONS THAT HAVE APPLIED THESE TYPES OF STATUTES IN TERMS OF HOW THIS IS ACTUALLY APPLIED IN THE COURT SYSTEM AND HOW IT WOULD BE LOOKED AT FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT VERSUS JUST COMING UP WITH OUR OWN PHRASEOLOGY , IF YOU WILL. I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING MR. LACEY CAN HELP US OUT WITH. MAYBE LOOKING AT IF THESE ARE ACTUALLY TRACKING THE PRECEDENT WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF HERE. >> JUST THE BOTTOM TWO ARE ALL OF THEM? >> THE BOTTOM TWO DEFINITELY FALL WITHIN THAT. THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THERE , THE THIRD BULLET POINT , DESIGNED TO PROMOTE . INTEREST, DESIGNED TO PROMOTE REQUIRES US TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE INTENT OF THE AUTHOR WAS. >> APPEALS TO OPPOSED TO DESIGNED. I JUST DON'T WANT TO STRIKE [01:30:04] THE WHOLE THING OUT OF THERE. >> AND I AM NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE STRIKE THAT OUT OF THERE. I AM SUGGESTING THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE THAT CURRENTLY EXIST AND HOW SUBJECTIVE AND IN MAKING THAT DETERMINATION. SOMETHING WE CAN TALK ABOUT, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT. >> I HAVE IS IN CONCERT WITH THE SECOND BULLET POINT ON PAGE THREE WITH THE WORDS THAT WOULD ENTICE , INDUCE, OR ENCOURAGE . >> I THINK YOU LOOK AT TEND TO VERSUS WOULD . I BELIEVE THAT IS HOW THAT IS APPROACHED. >> THAT MIGHT BE BETTER THAN THE WOULD ENTICE. >> THE ONES WE'VE GONE THROUGH STRIKING THE LAST TWO OUT OF THE WAY AS WE HAVE HAD CONVERSATION AND I THINK THAT IS WHERE WE INITIALLY STARTED NATURE. I FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THE LAST TWO , I HAVE SOME GRAVE CONCERNS . IT IS LIKE THIS LINE MOVED AND IT IS GETTING TO A POINT WHERE I AM NOT FEELING COMFORTABLE WITH THOSE LAST TWO BULLET POINTS. IT MAY NOT BE MY CUP OF TEA. BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT IS A SEGMENT OF OUR POPULATION, AS WELL. I AM VERY COGNIZANT AND CAREFUL OF THAT. LOOK IN ENCOURAGES CHILD TO CONSIDER ELECTIVE PROCEDURES FOR GENDER TRANSITION AND ALL OF THESE OTHER THINGS. THAT IS THE ROLE OF A PHYSICIAN AND THE PARENTS AND THINGS OF THIS SO I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT IS A LIBRARY THING WHEN -- BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT UNDER 18. SO GOING TO A DOCTOR OR GOING TO A SURGEON , I'M NOT REALLY COMFORTABLE WITH THE CITY BOARD DICTATING THAT . >> ARE YOU SAYING YOU ARE ALL RIGHT WITH A BALLPOINT IN THERE? >> NO. THE LAST TWO , I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT AND I AM NOT COMFORTABLE AT THIS POINT WITH HIM IN THERE. >> I WILL ASK MISS LACEY TO SEND 0401 TO EVERYBODY SO THAT YOU CAN SEE WHAT I AM SEEING AS WE CONTINUE TO GO THROUGH THIS. >> I WILL SAY THE CONTENT FROM A JUVENILE STANDPOINT SHOULDN'T BE IN THERE ANYWAY BASED UPON THE PREVIOUS BULLET POINTS. >> IT WOULDN'T EVEN BE THERE. AGAIN, I AM JUST SORT OF BRAINSTORMING THIS, BUT I MIGHT SUGGEST THAT WE TAKE OUT THE THIRD BULLET POINT AS AN REMOVE THAT PROHIBITION FROM THE POLICY , BUT LEAVE THE FOURTH ONE . >> WHICH WHEN I YOU TALKING ABOUT? >> ON PAGE THREE THERE ARE FOUR BULLET POINTS. SHE IS SAYING LEAVE THE THIRD AND REMOVE THE FOURTH . >> OTHER WAY AROUND. REMOVE THE THIRD . I THINK A BOOK THAT PROMOTES GENDER DYSPHORIA OR CAUSES YOUNG CHILD TO QUESTION IT, I THINK THAT MAYBE ONE OF THESE OTHER CATEGORIES MIGHT ELIMINATE IT, BUT I THINK OUR LIBRARY HAS A PLACE FOR A BOOK THAT INTRODUCES -- I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE WORD PROMOTE , BUT THE LAST BULLET POINT I AM COMFORTABLE WITH ABOUT THE CONTENT THAT ENCOURAGES . I AM TRYING TO WALK THE FENCE BETWEEN NOT PROHIBITING THE SUBJECT COMPLETELY , BUT IN THE JUVENILE SECTION NOT HAVING MATERIAL THAT TENDS TO PERSUADE . >> YOUNG AT ALL AND NOT IN THE JUVENILE? >> I THREW THAT OUT THERE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS SUCH A GOOD IDEA. NOBODY REACTED TO IT. >> AS A REMINDER WE ARE NOW LOOK AT DEFINING YOUNG ADULT AS 18 TO 25. AT THAT POINT YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER THE DECISIONS [01:35:02] A 20-YEAR-OLD CAN MAKE ON THEIR OWN. >> RIGHT. >> >> ONE BEFORE, CONTENT THAT INTRODUCES OR PROMOTES? >> WHAT HAPPENS IF SALLY PLAYS FOOTBALL. THERE WAS A BOOK ON THAT. SHE IS ACTING LIKE A GUY. CAN SOMEBODY THEN IN TURN SAY , OH, THAT IS PROMOTING SHE IS ACTING AS A MALE . IT IS A SLIPPERY SLOPE TO GO, WELL, -- >> IF I HAD A DAUGHTER THAT IS A TOMBOY I DON'T WANT HER TO GET CONFUSED GOING IN AND HER THINKING MAYBE BECAUSE I LIKE SPORTS AND MY PERSONALITY LENDS ITSELF EASIER TO TALKING TO GUYS AS OPPOSED TO GIRLS OR THE OTHER WAY AROUND , I GREW UP WITH SISTERS IN THE SURE MOM AND STRONG GRANDMOTHER, SOMETIMES I BETTER OFF TALKING TO FEMALES, BUT AT AN AGE WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO PROPERLY THINK THROUGH AND RATIONALIZE THESE THINGS I WORRY ABOUT INTRODUCING THE CONCEPT OF GENDER DYSPHORIA AT THAT EARLY AGE. JUST BECAUSE A GIRL CAN COMPETE AGAINST THE GUYS OR WITH THE GUYS, THAT IS GREAT. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. MY DAUGHTER BE EVERYBODY IN TRACK ALL THE WAY THROUGH JUNIOR HIGH. I ALWAYS PROMOTED THAT. BUT IT WASN'T SOMETHING ELSE THAT IT WASN'T. I DON'T LIKE THIS IDEA FOR MINORS. I AM OKAY WITH IT BEING IN THE LIBRARY BECAUSE IT IS A PIECE OF WORK THAT PROBABLY SHOULD BE IN THE LIBRARY FOR 18 PLUS , BUT I DO NOT WANT TO IN THE JUVENILE SECTION. >> ONE CONCEPT THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HELP THE CONVERSATION BUT I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO THROW IT AS A REMINDER IS THAT 50 MINUTES AGO OR SO THERE WAS ALSO A DECISION MADE THAT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE VIEWING AND READING OF THE BOOKS IS ON THE PARENT. THAT COULD BE ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE FOR YOU AS YOU CONSIDER THE SPECIFICS OF THESE BULLET POINTS TAKING THAT ASPECT INTO ACCOUNT. FINDING THAT BALANCE. >> THOSE TWO ARE TAKING UP THE MOST TIME. OBVIOUSLY WE NEED TO DO MORE WORK ON THOSE TWO BULLET ITEMS. >> BECAUSE WE GET INTO THINGS LIKE MAY CAUSE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, IT IS DIFFICULT TO APPLY , IN MY OPINION. >> MORE CONCERNED WITH THE VERBIAGE AND NOT THE ACTUAL CONTENT? >> THAT IS A GOOD POINT. >> CERTAINLY THE FOURTH ONE . >> THE VERBIAGE , I AM NOT AS GOOD AS THE LEGAL WAY IT SHOULD BE WRITTEN. BUT CONTENT WISE I FIND ONLY APPROPRIATE TO BE IN THIS JUVENILE POLICY. >> I WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE MISS LACEY TO BRING SOMETHING BACK TO US TO LOOK AT BEFORE WE MAKE A FINAL DECISION, FOR SURE. >> ITEMS ONTO THIS CATEGORY STILL AVAILABLE FOR CHECKOUT BY THE GENERAL PUBLIC. ANY LIBRARY PATRON TWO BECOMES AWARE OF MATERIALS THAT FALL REQUEST FOR RE-EVALUATION TO RELOCATED IN THE ADULT SECTION OF THE LIBRARY. IF IT IS AN ALL MY DIGITAL ITEMS THEY MAY REQUEST TO RECLASSIFY THE ITEM FOR INCLUSION IN THE ADULT ONLINE COLLECTION AND THAT GOES INTO THERE IS ANOTHER PART THAT [01:40:02] GOES INTO REQUESTS FOR RE-EVALUATION'S . ONLY CONSIDER REQUEST FOR RE-EVALUATION FROM VICTORIA COUNTY RESIDENTS. AND FOCUSED ON HISTORY MATERIAL FOR VICTORIA COUNTY AND PRIMARY SOURCES FOR ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS COLLECTED FOR THESE AREAS. >> ADULT SECTION, I GUESS? >> THE BOARD DECIDED THAT IT WAS MORE APPROPRIATE TO HAVE THE REFERENCE GENEALOGY SECTION IN THE ADULT POLICY AS OPPOSED TO THE MEETING ON BOTH POLICIES OF THEY JUST TOOK IT OUT OF THE JUVENILE ONE. >> SECTION PLACEMENT OUT OF THE TERM YOUNG ADULT . >> STRIKING YOUNG ADULT JUST BECAUSE OF THE TITLE. >> THERE ARE NO OTHER CHANGES ON PAGE THREE. WE GO INTO PAGE FOUR FOR REASONS FOR REMOVAL. STRUCK THE NEEDS AND DEMANDS AND ADDED INSTEAD INTEREST OF OUR COMMUNITY , THE LIBRARY'S COMMUNITY OF USERS. >> I THINK THAT IS GOOD. >> AND THEN THEY JUST ADDED CREW MANUAL ONSET OF CONTINUOUS EVALUATION AND WEEDING. NO OTHER CHANGES ON FOUR. A COUPLE ON FIVE ON THE BOTTOM. LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD SHALL RE-EVALUATE THE LIBRARY DIRECTORS DECISION ON THE ITEM IN QUESTION UTILIZING THE LIBRARY'S COLLECTION DEVELOPMENT POLICY INSTEAD OF SAYING BASED SOLELY ON THE SELECTION CRITERIA STATED IN THIS POLICY. JUST UPDATING IT TO THE COLLECTION DEAL. THE RETENTION SHALL BE UPHELD FOR THREE YEARS. THAT CHANGED TO ONE YEAR. EVERYBODY FEELS ABOUT THAT ONE YEAR IS THE RIGHT TERM? >> I WOULD RECOMMEND MORE THAN ONE YEAR JUST FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE ISSUE FOR OUR PEOPLE AT THE LIBRARY. EMPLOYEES HAVE TO GO THROUGH DOWNSIZING CREATING EXTRA WORK HERE. ONE YEAR YOU WILL TYPICALLY HAVE THE SAME WORK YOU HAVE BEFORE RE-EVALUATING THE SAME THING. I THINK A TWO YEAR TERM WOULD BE APPROPRIATE THERE. BUT I AM OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS. >> ANYWHERE BETWEEN 18 AND 24 MONTHS. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ONE YEAR OR >> THAT GETS US TO THE END OF WHERE WE ARE. SO WE HAVE SOME CHOICES . >> IT SAYS THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD SHALL REMOVAL OR RETENTION OF LIBRARY MATERIALS ULTIMATELY RESIDES WITH THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD. THE ULTIMATE REMOVAL OF RECOMMENDATION FROM THE ADVISORY BOARD. >> COULD YOU SPEAK MORE INTO THE MIC? >> ON PAGE FIVE -- >> THIRD BULLET POINT UP . >> THE FINAL AUTHORITY REGARDING REMOVAL , I WOULD LIKE THE COUNCIL TO HAVE THE ULTIMATE SAY IN THE BOOKS. NOT THE ADVISORY BOARD. >> I LIKE HOW YOU SAID THE COUNCIL WITH THE RECOMMENDATION THAT >> WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE ADVISORY BOARD. >> WE HAVE SOME OPTIONS THIS EVENING. WE CAN TRY AND INCORPORATE THIS ALL IN ONE BIG AMENDMENT . WE CAN MAKE AMENDMENTS AND PASS BY SECTION IF WE WANT TO. WE CAN TABLE THIS UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING. WE CAN AGREE THAT MAYBE WE NEED TO APPOINT A COMMITTEE OF THREE OF US TO WORK ON THIS WITH ALLISON TO MAKE SURE WE TAKE EVERYBODY'S NOTES . I AM COPYING MY NOTES AND GIVING THEM TO ALLISON THAT I MADE TONIGHT SO THAT WE COME BACK AT THE MET NEXT MEETING WITH A CLEAN COPY WE CAN ALL DISCUSS WITHOUT HAVING TO LOOK AT EACH [01:45:07] LITTLE CHANGE AND ALL OF THAT STUFF. THE CHANGES WILL BE HIGHLIGHTED . SO YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE ON HOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED? >> I WOULD LIKE TO TABLE IT, BUT WITH THE COMMITTEE. TABLE UNTIL WE GET ALL OF THAT IRONED OUT. BY THE NEXT MEETING, MAYBE? >> I AM JUST WONDERING IF WE ARE THAT FAR APART THAT WE NEED A COMMITTEE. >>, I THINK IT MIGHT HELP ALLISON. >> I DON'T THINK WE ARE THAT FAR OFF NOW. >> I DON'T THINK WE ARE FAR OFF, EITHER. WE HAVE TWO BULLET POINTS THAT WE NEED TO REALLY WORK ON. AND HOW INTERRELATES WITH TEXAS PENAL CODE AND OPINIONS. I THINK THAT IS THE BIGGEST THING TO WORK ON. WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SERVE ON THE SELECT COMMITTEE? >> I WILL. >> I WILL DO IT. >> I WILL LEAVE IT OPEN FOR YOU TWO BECAUSE YOU ARE OF DIFFERENT OPINION THAN ME. >> I AM GONE SO IF IT IS AFTER THAT. >> I AM TRYING TO GET THIS BACK IN OUR HANDS -- I KNOW YOUR POSITION IS ON SOME OF THE STUFF AND MAKE SURE ALLISON KNOWS YOUR POSITION BECAUSE I CANNOT CALL YOU DURING THIS COMMITTEE. OVERLAPPING SPEAKERS ] >> THERE IS NO SET TIME. >> I'M SURE IT CAN BE VIRTUAL PARTICIPATION, AS WELL. >> A BIG PART OF THIS WORK WILL BE EXCHANGING EMAILS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. >> SPEAKERS ] >> YES, NO? 11 >> TO WE NEED A SECOND ON THAT MOTION? >> REMEMBER, YOU HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE AND A SECOND TO APPROVE. MOTION TO TABLE ? I HAVE A SECOND TO TABLE. >> JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, I GET THE IDEA THAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO REMOVE THE YOUNG ADULT AND PUT IT BACK WITH THE ADULT. I WILL HAVE A COMPLETED POLICY FOR YOU AT THE NEXT MEETING THAT INCLUDES BOTH OF THOSE. THE CHANGES MADE BY THE BOARD TO THE ADULT POLICY AT THE LAST BOARD MEETING WERE VERY MINIMAL AND GENERALLY ARE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE ALL AGREED TO OR I GOT THE IMPRESSION EVERYONE IS ON BOARD WITH PERIODS THAT WILL ALL BE IN THERE AS A WHOLE FOR ME TO PRESENT TO ALL, AS WELL. >> OKAY. >> AT OUR NEXT MEETING THIS IS STILL ON THE TABLE? >> MOTION TO TABLE UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING. AND A SECOND. IT WILL BE UP FOR DISCUSSION AT THE NEXT WITH THE SUBSTITUTED COLLECTION DEVELOPMENT POLICY. >> WE WILL LOOK AT THE SUBSTITUTED VERSION AND IF WE WANT ANY AMENDMENTS TO IT WE CAN MAKE THEM AT THE TIME. >> IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY ONCE WHEN WE TABLED A MOTION WE LEFT THE OTHER MOTION OPEN SO WHEN WE CAME BACK WE JUST VOTED ON IT BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN FIRST AND SECOND TO ACCEPT AS WE CAN DISCUSS IT. BUT BECAUSE I TABLED IT THAT MOTION STAYS OPEN, CORRECT, ALLISON? >> YES. >> ARE WE SAFER VOTING THIS ONE DOWN? >> >> WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THE TABLE MOTION. >> EVERYBODY GOOD? SPEAKERS ] I KNOW IT IS GETTING LATE. THANK YOU ALL, AGAIN, FOR A GOOD, FRANK DISCUSSION . I APPRECIATE IT. I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S PROFESSIONALISM. ALL IN FAVOR OF TABLING THIS ITEM UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING SAY AYE. THANK [H. Executive Sessions:] [01:50:03] YOU. WITH THAT WE ARE GOING TO RECESS FOR A BRIEF EXECUTIVE SESSION . IT IS 7:30 P.M. WE WILL NOT BE COMING BACK IN TO DISCUSS ANYTHING OR MAKE ANY DECISIONS TONIGHT. >> THE RECESS TOOK EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 7:30 P.M. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.