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[A. CALL TO ORDER]

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>> WELCOME TO THE CITY COUNSEL MEETING FOR TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 20TH, 2022.

MS. HILBRICH, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL ROLL.

>> MAYOR PRO-TEM YOUNG WILL NOT BE JOINING THE MEETING TONIGHT. >> IF YOU'LL STAND FOR THE PLEDGES. FOLLOWED BY A MOMENT OF SILENCE, PLEASE.

>> I PLEDGE AL LEGJANS TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GODS, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

TEXAS, ONE STATE, UNDER GOD,.

>> ALL RIGHT, WELCOME, EVERYBODY, STARTING TO SEE FAM PARTICULAR FACES OUT THERE, HOWDY. LET'S GO ON AND JUMP INTO ANNOUNCEMENTS AND REMINDERS.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE HAVE A COUPLE FOR YOU THIS EVENING.

[a. Child Passenger Safety Car Seat Inspection. Tiffany Totah, Municipal C...]

I WANT TO ASK TIFFANY IF SHE IS HERE -- THERE SHE IS. TIFFANY TO PROVIDE YOU AN UPDATE

ON THE CHILD PASSENGER CAR SEAT PROGRAM. >> GOOD EVENING, I JUST WANTED TO REMIND COUNSEL AND THE PUBLIC THAT WE HAVE A CHILD PASSENGER SAFETY EVENT THIS THURSDAY.

IT WILL BE FROM 4 TO 6:00 P.M. AT THE VICTORIA COMMUNITY CENTER, WE ARE TAKING APPOINTMENTS AT VICTORIATX.GOV SLASH CARSEAT. OR CONTACT SO JUST A REMINDER ABOUT THAT EVENT THIS THURSDAY FROM 4 TO 6:00 P.M. AT THE VICTORIA COMMUNITY CENTER

PARKING LOT THANK YOU. >> I HAVE ONE IF YOU HAVE NO OTHERS.

[b. Special Council Meeting on October 3, 2022. Jeff Bauknight, Mayor]

THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING FOR OCTOBER 4TH, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE AND CALL A SPECIAL COUNSEL MEETING FOR MONDAY, OCTOBER 3RD. SO THAT THOSE THAT WANT TO ATTEND NATIONAL NIGHT OUT EVENS MAY SO. SO JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO BE AWARE, IT WILL BE THE FIRST MONDAY OF THE MONTH, NOT THE FIRST TUESDAY OF THE MONTH FOR

THE FIRST MEETING. >> YOU'RE CANCELING THE ONE ON TUESDAY.

>> YES. >> NOT HAVING 2 IN A ROW? >> NO, MA'AM.

>> WITH THAT WE'LL CLOSE THE ANNOUNCEMENTS ANDRY MINDERS AND GO INTO PUBLIC AND EMPLOYEE

[a. Child Passenger Safety Week Proclamation. Jeff Bauknight, Mayor.]

RECOMMENDATIONS WE HAVE ONE PROCLAMATION, ITEM 2 B-A, WHEREAS CHILDREN ARE OUR FUTURE AND IT IS RESPONSIBLE OF PARENTS AND CAREGIVERS TO KEEP AMERICA'S CHILDREN SAFES AND CAR SEATS ARE REQUIREDDED BY LAW FOR I CHILDREN TRAVELING IN MOTOR VEHICLES AND SHOWS IN THE U.S.

ONE IN FOUR CHILD CAR SEATS ARE PROPERLY INSTALLED AND WHEREAS RESEARCH SHOWS WHEN INSTALLED AND USED CORRECTLY CHILD SAFETY SEATS INCREASE THE RISK OF FATAL INJURY AMONG 71% AMONG INFANTS AND 45% AMONG CHILDREN AGES 4 TO 8 AND WHEREAS PARENTS AND GUARDIANS MUST MAKE SURE THAT CHILDREN AGE 13 AND UNDER ARE ALWAYS RIDE IN A BACK SEAT, BUCKLED UP AND PROPERLY UNIN STALLED CHILD SEAT AND NEVER PLACED THE FRONT SEAT EQUIPPED WITH THE PASSENGER AIR BAG AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF VICTORIA EVENING COURAGES PARENTS AND CAREGIVERS TO IMPLEMENT BEST PRACTICES FOR TRAVELING SAFELY WITH CHILDREN AND ARE COMMITTED TO WORKING CLOSELY WITH OUR PARTNERS AND SAFETY ADVOCATES TO HELP MAKE THE KIND OF CHOICES THAT WILL KEEP CHILDREN ALIVE AND SAFE. AND WHEREAS CHILDREN RIDING IN THE RIGHT SEAT FOR THEIR AGE AND SIZE CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED BAY CAR SEAT INSPECTION AND ENSURED THE SAFETY TRAVELING NOW I JEFF BAUKNIGHT KNIGHT DO HEREBY PROCLAIM, AS CHILD PASSENGER SAFETY WEEK.

WE ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO HELP REDUCE INJURIES AND TRAGIC LOSS OF LIFE BY BUCKLING UP

THEMSELVES AND THEIR CHILDREN EVERY TRIP, EVERY TIME. >> OKAY, ANY OTHER PUBLIC OR

EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION? >> NO, SIR. >> OKAY.

THEN WE'LL GO TO ITEMS FROM COUNCIL, I HAVE TWO ITEMS, FIRST LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD MEETING

[a. Library Advisory Board Meeting Update . Jeff Bauknight, Mayor]

UPDATE MR. GARZA. >> ALREADY, THANK YOU. MAYOR, A WEEK AGO ON SEPTEMBER 13TH THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD HELD A SPECIAL WORKSHOP TO SPECIFICALLY TALK

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ABOUT THE COLLECTION DEVELOPMENT POLICY. THIS OBVIOUSLY WAS CELL COVERED MEETING. SO I'M SURE FOR THE MOST PART, EVERYBODY IS AWARE OF WHAT TOOK PLACE AT THIS MEETING. BUT I WANT TO VERY QUICKLY GO THROUGH A FEW HIGHLIGHTS YOUR DO HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU A COPY OF THE APPROVED COLLECTION DEVELOPMENT POLICY THAT EVENING THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD DID APPROVE AN UPDATE TO THAT POLICY, YOU HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF YOU, YOU ALSO HAVE COPIES OF THE LIBRARY BILL OF RIGHTS, THE FREEDOM TO VIEW STATEMENT, SIMPLY JUST TO HAVE FOR YOUR CONVENIENCE AND RESOURCE, I WANT TO BRIEFLY HIGHLIGHT A FEW SECTIONS OF IT AND I'LL START WITH THE ONE THAT REFERENCES THESE THREE STATEMENTS.

WE HAD -- VERY GOOD DISCUSSION WITH THE BOARD. LY SAY THAT ALL OF THE BOARD MEMBERS WERE VERY INVOLVED WITH THE DISCUSSION AND CONVERSATION. IT WAS A 3-HOUR MEETING.

I APPRECIATE ALSO STAFF AND THE RESIDENTS THAT SHOWED UP AND SAT THROUGH THE THREE-HOUR MEETING.

BUT ANYWAY, WE HAD A REALLY GOOD CONVERSATION AROUND THE PURPOSE OF THE POLICIES SPECIFIC TO THESE STATEMENTS I POSTED A QUESTION TO THE BOARD THAT I WOULD ALSO POSE FOR YOU TO PONDER ON WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE -- WHAT IS THE CITY'S POSITION ON THE STATES AS IT RELATES TO, YOU KNOW WHAT IS THE ISSUE AND WHAT IS THE CONCERN? WE OBVIOUSLY KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO NECESSARILY PRESCRIBE FULLLY TO THE A BUT WENT THROUGH READING EACH POLICY AND THE ADVISORY LIBRARY BOARD FELT THERE WAS NO, IS SLEW THE CONTENT.

AND WE POSED THE QUESTION IS THE ISSUE THE SOURCE OF THE CONTENT. IF THE ISSUE IS THE SOURCE AN EASY SOLUTION WOULD BE TO TAKE TAKE THE SAME CONTEXT AND DRAFT IT IN A MORE LOCALIZED DOCUMENT IF THOSE WHERE THE PRINCELES WE WANT TO ADHERE TO THE LIBRARY. THEY DEMOVING THEM TO A BULLET POINT THAT ACTUALLY STARTED OFF FOCUSED ON THE VICTORIA PUBLIC LIBRARY.

AS MINIMAL AS THAT CHANGE MIGHT BE, THE SPENT BEHIND IT WAS TO ENSURE THAT FIRST AND FOREMOST IT IS THE MISSION, GOALS AND PHILOSOPHY OF THE VICTORIA PUBLIC LIBRARY THAT.

COMES FIRST AND ULTIMATELY THE GUIDING PRINCIPALS THAT ARE PART OF THE CONVERSATION BUT NOT THE END ALL BE ALL AND LOCAL GOALS AND MISSION OF THE LIBRARY THAT COMES FIRST.

THAT WAS THE FIRST INTENTION OF THAT PART OF THE POLICY. I WON'T GO THROUGH EACH SECTION.

I'LL SIMPLY HIGHLIGHT THERE WAS A SHORT REVISIT OF THE CONVERSATION AROUND COMMUNITY STANDARD, AND THERE ARE SEVERAL SECTIONS THROUGHOUT THE POLICY THAT I ALREADY REFERENCED, SOME SORT OF REFERENCE TO THE NEEDS AND INTERESTS OF OUR COMMUNITY. YOU SEE THAT IN THE SELECTION CRITERIA, THE VERY FIRST BULLET, CURRENT AND ANTICIPATED NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY YOU SEE IT UNDER THE SECTION OF COLLECTION MAINTENANCE WHICH READS VPL OF CONTINUOUS EVALUATION AND THEN WE ACTUALLY ADDED A REFERENCE UNDER THE REMOVAL AND MADE THAT THE LAST BULLET WHICH WAS THE NEEDS AND DEMANDS OF THE COMMUNITY OF USER, WE ACTUALLY TOOK THAT VERB ACKNOWLEDGE VERBATIM OUT OF THE CREW MANUAL PUT OUT BY THE TEXAS STATE LIBRARY THAT WE USE AND EVERY LIBRARY WEED OUT MATERIALS IN THE COLLECTION AND ONE OF THE CRITERIA AND ELEMENTS THAT THAT DOCUMENT USES AS A GUIDING PRINCIPAL IS THE NEED -- IS THE NEEDS AND DEMANDS OF THE LIBRARIES AND COMMUNITY OF USERS AND BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF FOCUS ON TRYING TO ENSURE THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT COLLECTION POLICY CENTERED AROUND OUR COMMUNITY, WE SPECIFICALLY TOOK THAT VERB ACKNOWLEDGE AND ADDED IT THERE. THE OTHER AREA I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT QUICKLY IS A SUGGESTION ABOUT COLLECTIONS THIS IS ONE ITEM THAT I THINK IS SOMETIMES OVERLOOKED, SO YOU ALSO HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU A SUMMARY THAT KIND OF STARTS OFF WITH A DOUGHNUT PIE CHART LOOKING THING. THIS IS SIMPLY TO ILLUSTRATE 47 RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME FROM THE REE EVALUATION FORMS A LOT OF FOCUS PLACED ON OBVIOUSLY THOSE BOOKS SUBMITTED FOR REEVALUATION, BUT YOU MAY OR MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR IN THE FORM WHEN SOMEONE SUBMITS THAT REEVALUATION WE ASK THEM FOR RECOMMENDATIONS ON BOOKS THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE COLLECTION TO REPLACE THE ONES THAT THEY'VE REACE PLACED TO BE REMOVED FROM CIRCULATION TWO DONATEED AND ONE WAS PART OF THE COLLECTION AND WE HIGHLIGHTED THIS TO MAKE THE POINT TO THE BOARD AND PRESENT AND I'M MAKING IT TONIGHT THAT OUR LIBRARY STAFF IS TRULY TRYING TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ALL PERSPECTIVES AND ALL VIEWPOINTS IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND I THINK THIS EXAMPLE, I THINK, SHOWCASES THAT.

SO WE ARE CERTAINLY AGAIN, STRIVING TO HAVING A DIVERSE COLLECTION WITHIN THE LIBRARY AND, AGAIN, THIS EXAMPLE SHOWCASES THAT EFFORT. BEHIND THIS SUMMARY SHEET YOU

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HAVE THE SPECIFIC LIST OF WHAT THOSE WORKS WERE OR ARE, I SHOULD SAY.

THE LAST SECTION OF THE POLICY IS A REQUEST FOR EHAVE VALUATION, THIS IS WHERE WE ORIGINALLY THOUGHT THERE WOULD BE THE MOST CHANGE BECAUSE THE BOARD HAD DECIDED AT A PREVIOUS MEETING THEY WANTED TO FOCUS MORE OF THE ATTENTION ON THE REEVALUATION PROCESS OPPOSED TO THE COLLECTION COMING INTO THE LIBRARY, THEY FELT VERY STRONGLY THAT THE COLLECTION COMING INTO THE LIBRARY SHOULD BE DIVERSE, SHOULD BE BROAD THROUGH THE EVALUATION AND WEEDING PROCESS YOU GO ABOUT EDITING THE COLLECTION. AS YOU KNOW, THE REEVALUATION FORM GOES TO THE LINE BRIARY DIRECTOR WE SPECIFIC CLAIRE ASKED THE LIBRARY BOARD IF THIS WAS A ROLE THAT THEY WANTED TO CONTINUE HAVING OR IF THEY WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, PASS IT TO YOU, OR JUST COME UP WITH ANOTHER SOLUTION. AND THEY ACTUALLY ALL WERE VERY WILLING TO CONTINUE TO SERVE IN THAT CAPACITY. AND SO, THAT IS THE IN THERE AS WELL. BUT LIKE I SAID, ULTIMATELY THAT WAS THE VERB ACKNOWLEDGE INCLUDED WAS TO RE-ENFORCE THE PROCESS THAT ALREADY TAKE PLACE. ULTIMATELY THE BOARD, AS I MENTIONED APPROVED THE UPDATES TO THE POLICY. AND NOW, OF COURSE, WE'RE SHARING IT WITH YOU FOR IDEALLY FURTHER GUIDANCE. SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY

QUESTIONS. >> I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE SUGGESTED

>> CHART. >> I CAN'T HEAR YOU. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME.

>> IS YOUR MIC IC ON? >> ON THIS CHART RIGHT HERE, WHAT DOES IT MEAN WHEN YOU'RE SAYING, ITEMS UNAVAILABLE, IN OTHER WORDS, THEY WEREN'T FOUND IN OUR LIBRARY?

>> THEY WEREN'T FOUND TO PURCHASE SOMEWHERE RIGHT, I THINK.

BUT STAFF CAN CLARIFY THAT, THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING OF IT. SO WHEN THEY WENT THROUGH TRYING TO PURCHASE AND ACQUIRE THESE 47 BOOKS THEY COULDN'T FIND SOME. AND THE ONES THEY COULD FIND TO PURCHASE WE DID, WHICH WERE THE 25. CORRECT?

>> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. >> SO THEY WEREN'T AVAILABLE THROUGH OUR BOOK JOB OR WE USED A WAREHOUSE BOOK JOB OR LIBRARY ONE OF SEVERAL COMPANIES LIBRARIES USE THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES. THEY WEREN'T AVAILABLE AS NEW ITEMS ON AMAZON.

IT MAY HAVE BEEN AS USED ITEMS, BUT WE DO NOT USUALLY PURCHASE A USED ITEM, IT CAN BE MARKED IN, IT CAN BE DAMAGE AND IT WOULD NOT BE OF THE BEST QUALITY. BUT WE WERE NOT ABLE TO BUY IT AS A NEW ITEM AND DELEGATIONS WE MAKE TO PURCHASE THINGS THAT ARE OLDER AND WE LOOK AT THOSE CRITICALLY BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE HOW OLD IS IT? AND IS THE MATERIAL STILL RELEVANT AND IT IS 10 YEARS OLD AND BEING SUGGESTED. S SO THROWS SOME OF THE THINGS

WE LOOKED AT. >> SO YOU'RE SAYING THESE ITEMS SAY ITEMS UNAVAILABLE ARE NOT IN

OUR LIBRARY. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> IF WE WERE TO LOOK AT THIS LIST. THE ONLY ONES HERE ARE PURCHASED, THE ONES THAT ARE

DONATED AND THE BPL COLLECTION? >> THAT IS ONE WE ALREADY HAD IN OUR COLLECTION.

>> ASK I DON'T HAVE TO CHOOSE, A PAPERBACK IF FROM 2016, 11 NEW ON AMAZON RIGHT NOW.

>> BUT THESE ARE ALREADY PURCHASED. >> THE ONES THAT ARE IN GOLD,

YES. >> ARE THEY PART OF THE BOOKS THAT ARE BEING QUESTIONED?

>> THESE ARE ITEMS THAT WERE LISTED ON THE REEVALUATION FORM WHEN WE RECEIVED A REEVALUATION FORM FROM AN INDIVIDUAL, THERE WERE SOME THAT HAD ON THE LINE THAT SAID WHAT BOOK DO YOU RECOMMEND TO REPLACE THIS ITEM. THAT WAS WHAT A TITLE THAT WAS LISTED, THAT WAS SUGGESTED TO US

BY SOME INDIVIDUALS. THAT SUBMITTED A REQUESTS. >> OKAY, EXPLAIN THE PROCESS ONE MORE TIME, BECAUSE I'M NOT CATCHING -- OKAY, THESE BOOKS THAT ARE IN THE GOLD WERE

PURCHASED WITH CITY MONEY, TAX MONEY, LET'S SAY. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> ARE THESE BOOKS THAT WERE REQUESTED TO REPLACE ANOTHER BOOK? THAT WAS ON THAT LIST ORIGINALLY? OR ARE THESE BOOKS THAT WERE ON

THE LIST. >> THEY WERE NOT BOOKS THAT WERE REEVALUATION TITLES SO WE HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL LET'S SAY JANE. SHE SAYS I WANT THE BOOK REMOVED FROM THE LIBRARY.

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ANOTHER QUESTION ON THAT EVALUATION FORM IS DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS OF TITLES THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE US ADD OR USE AS A REPLACEMENT FOR THE TITLE YOU ARE ASKING BE REMOVED FROM OUR LIBRARY. ON THAT LINE, SHE WOULD PREFER TO SEE IN OUR LIBRARY.

WE LOOK AT THOSE, WE REVIEW THEM AND TAKE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS INTO CONSIDERATION AND WE

PURCHASE 25 OF THOSE. >> AND THEY WERE THE ONES THAT SOMEBODY ASKED TO REPLACE A BOOK

THAT WAS ALREADY IN THE LIBRARY. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> SO THESE ARE --

>> ADDITIONS. >> ADDITIONS, BUT THEY'RE NOT, NOT REPLACEMENTS.

>> OKAY. >> AND WHERE ARE THESE BOOKS LOCATED IN THE LIBRARY, PLEASE?

>> THEY COULD BE ADULT, THEY COULD BE YOUNG ADULT OR CHILDREN.

THEY VARY. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. WHEN I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THE CHILDREN'S SECTION HE PAST WEEK, YOU HAVE IN THERE A MOVIE SECTION.

AND IF YOU GO THROUGH EVERY MOVIE THAT IS AVAILABLE THERE IS NO R-RATED MOVIES AVAILABLE IN THIS SECTION WHICH IS HOW I WOULD EXPECT IT TO BE. WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS WHY OUR COLLECTION DEVELOPMENT POLICY DOESN'T ADDRESS THE SAME THING FOR R-RATED CONTENT AND

BOOKS. >> BECAUSE BOOKS ARE NOT RATED. THEY ARE NOT RATED BY R, PG,

WHATEVER, X, THEY'RE NOT. >> I KNOW THERE IS NOT A SYSTEM OUT THERE.

>> THAT MOVIE RATING SYSTEM WAS CREATED BY A COMPANY THAT WAS -- THAT THE MOVIE INDUSTRY HIRES TO CREATE RATINGS. SO OUR BOOK DOS NOT HAVE RATINGS.

>>. >> THEREIN LIES THE PROBLEM AND WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT

WHEN CHOOSING BOOKS. >> THERE IS NOT A RATING SYSTEM FOR BOOKS I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT THERE ARE -- BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL LIKE THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD HEARD WHAT THE COUNSEL HAD SAID -- COUNCIL HAD SAID THE LAST TIME WHEN WE DISCUSSED IT. JOLTER HAD SAID, NUMBER ONE, LET'S GET SO IT WE DON'T KEEP BRINGING THESE BOOKS INTO THE LIBRARY.

AND IF THEY ARE IN THE LIBRARY, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO REMOVE THE BOOKS WE WANT TO PUT THEM IN A DIFFERENT SECTION AND HOW TO CLASSIFY THE BOOKS BASED ON CONTENT.

AND AGE APPROPRIATENESS I DON'T THINK THEY GOT THIS ON THIS ROUND, BUT I'M REGION TO, YOU KNOW, GIVE BOARD MEMBERS A CHANCE. THERE IS POTENTIAL OF UP TO 7 NEW BOARD MEMBERS WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH. GOING ON THE BOARD.

>> MAYOR IF I MAY, ONE OF THE THINGS I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT WAS DISCUSSED AT THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD MEETING WAS THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT COLLECTION POLICY IS INTENDED TO ADDRESS THE BOOKS COMING INTO THE LIBRARY, BUT DOESN'T ADDRESS -- THERE IS NO SECTION IN THIS POLICY THAT ADDRESSES HOW YOU GO ABOUT PLACING THOSE BOOKS ONCE THEY COME IN AND ANY PARTICULAR SECTION. RIGHT? AND SO IF WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS HAVING A CONVERSATION AROUND A POLICY THAT DOES THAT THAT DOES TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHAT YOU DO WITH A BOOK ONCE YOU GET IT IN TERMS OF PLACEMENT, RIGHT? THIS POLICY DOESN'T HAVE ANY REFERENCE TO THAT, SO WE WOULD BE CREATING SOMETHING FROM SCRATCH.

AND WE HAD A MEETING, ALLISON, DANA AND I, WE AGREED THAT THAT IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT POLICY, RIGHT? AND THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD WITH THE ADVISORY BOARD WHEN THIS TOPIC CAME UP IS THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN LEARNING MORE AUNT THE PROCESS, AND THAT IS THE PROCESS WE PLAN ON UNDERTAKING, THE NEXT LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD MEETING, REGULAR MEETING SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER DEPENDING WHAT HAPPENS WITH APPOINTMENTS WE GO THROUGH AN ONBOARDING PROCESS AND WE WOULD START AN EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT TO THAT.

THE SAME THAT WE DID WITH THE COLLECTION DEVELOPMENT POSY, MEANING THE FIRST TIP IS HEARING FROM DEVELOPMENT STAFF ON HOW THEY DO THAT NOW, WHAT IS THAT PROCESS, GOING THROUGH A LEGAL REVIEW SO THAT ALLISON HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS WITH THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD ANY IMPLICATIONS OF THAT, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME, AND THEN ENTERTAIN A CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW DO YOU DEFINE WHAT YOU WANT TO DO AND HOW YOU WANT TO WRITE IT UNDER POLL CIRCUMSTANCE RIGHT SO SPECIFIC TO THE ABSENCE OF AGE APPROPRIATENESS OR RATINGS SYSTEM, THIS POLICY DOESN'T

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REALLY HAVE A PLACE TO DO THAT. FOR PLACEMENT OF BOOKS ONCE THEY COME IN.

SOP AND TO DANA'S APPOINTED THERE IS NO RATING SYSTEM. THE EXPECT 8 IS WE USE A RATING SYSTEM, WE HAVE TO CREATE OUR OWN, OR REFERENCE THIRD PARTY RATING SYSTEMS THAT MIGHT EXIST.

SO. >> WELL WITH AS MUCH COMMOTION GOING ON NATIONALWIDE, I WOULD THINK SOMEONE IS GOING TO COME UP WITH A RATING SYSTEM. THERE ARE TOO MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE ARE AGAINST THIS TYPE OF BOOKS, OR, YOU KNOW, FOR THEM TO EVEN WANT TO GET RID OF THE BIBLE AND, YOU KNOW, OTHER BOOKS THAT WE READ AS YOUNG ADULTS, THAT JUST, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY IS GOING TO HAVE TO PICK UP THAT BALL AND RUN WITH IT. I'M NOT SAYING WE DO, BUT, I

THINK THE TIME IS COMING. >> OKAY. >> 30 QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON

THE BOARD MEETING? >> I WAS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND THE MEETING BUT I REALLY WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY WHO DID AND THE HARD WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE BY OUR STAFF BY YOU BY THE

CORONAVIRUS BOARD. >> APPRECIATE IT. >> IT IS AN EMOTIONAL TOPIC, BUT THERE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE PUT IN A LOT OF WORK, AND I APPRECIATE IT.

>> APPRECIATE IT, THANK YOU. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> NEXT ITEM THAT I HAD WAS, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ITEM E-ONE WHICH IS THE APPOINTMENTS TO THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD UP TO THE SLOT RIGHT AFTER CITIZEN'S COMMUNICATION AND BEFORE ITEMS WITH PUBLIC HEARINGS OKAY.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING THIS EVENING? COUNCIL?

>> I JUST HAVE ONE THING. ON NAVARRO, AFTER WE NUT -- AFTER THEY PUT IN THE MEDIUM, PEOPLE ARE STILL MAKING U-TURNS ON NAVARRO. I ALMOST HAD AN ACCIDENT COMING UP HERE. AND I POINTED TO THE LADY BUT I KNOW SHE DIDN'T EVEN LOOK UP THERE. THE SIGN IS TOO SMALL TO ME. SHE MADE A U-TURN RIGHT THERE AND I WAS TRYING TO TURN RITE. SHE MADE A RIGHT THERE ON NAVARRO.

AND I KNOW YOU CAN'T, BUT SHE DID. >> IT IS ALLOWED.

>> I TURNED AROUND AND I LOOKED AT THE SIGN HAD A LITTLE U WITH THE X ON IT.

>> WELL, WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT. >> JUST CHECK ALL THE INTERSECTIONS, THERE ARE AMERICAS THAT YOU CAN'T DO U-TURNS ON NAVARRO -- NOT NAVARRO, RIO GRAN, I'M SORRY,

RIO GRANT. >> WELL, THAT CHANGES EVERYTHING.

>> NOW I GET IT. >> I'M SORRY. I WAS RUSHING TO BEAT THE TRAIN.

TOO MANY MEETINGS. >> LIKE, MAN, I'VE BEEN DOING IT WRONG.

>>. >> YOU COULDN'T DO IN YOUR BIG TRUCK IF I COULDN'T DO IT TO

LITTLE CAR. >> SHOUTOUT TO JACK IN THE BOX HENRIIO GRAND TO PUT UP A FENCE TO DISSUADE PEOPLE FROM WALKING TO HE BEON REIO GRAND BUT NOW BUSTED OUT 3-FENCE PICKETS TO

CRAWL THROUGH INSTEAD OF WALKING THE EXTRA 30 YARDS. >> FRUSTRATING.

>> BUT THANK YOU, JACK IN THE BOX. OKAY.

[4. Citizen Communication:]

CITIZEN'S COMMUNICATION, LET'S START WITH MS. KIM PICKENS. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, HOPE YOU'RE HAVING A GOOD DAY. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I LOOK FORWARD TO POTENTIAL OF BEING APPOINTED BACK TO IF LIBRARY BOARD AFTER HAVING SERVED ON ITS FOR EIGHT YEARS.

SO I LOOK FORWARD TO POTENTIAL OF BRINGING MY EXPERIENCE BACK TO THE BOARD AND SO, I JUST PRESENTED IT FOR SOMETHING FROM A PLACE THAT IS NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART, I'VE BEEN GOING THERE SINCE 19, WHAT, 74. ONE OF MY FAVORITE PLACES IN THE WORLD THAT IS WHERE I RAISED MY KIDDOS IN PUBLIC LIBRARIES. LIKE I SAID, I APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR THE INTEREST IN THE BOARD. BOARD.

MS. BLUCHER. >> IT'S OKAY, I CAN'T SAY IT RIGHT EITHER.

>> I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT I HOPE MY APPLICATION TO THE LIBRARIRY BOARD WILL BE ACCEPTED SO I CAN HELP SUPPORT THE IMPORTANT WORK THE LIBRARY AND ITS STAFF DOES.

LIBRARIES HAVE BEEN A STAPLE OF MY LIFE AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER.

THEY FUELED MY IMAGINATION AND LOVE OF LEARNING AS A CHILD. AND HELPED TO FOSTER THAT IN MY OWN CHILDREN WE SPENT HOURS EVERY WEEK FINDING NEW WORLDS AND ACTIVITIES, JOINED STORY TIMES AND EVEN MET SOME OF THEIR CHILDHOOD HEROES LIKE CLIFFORD THE BIG RED DOG.

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THE FREE, SOCIAL AND EDUCATIONAL RESOURCE WAS INVALUABLE TO US AS A FINANCIALLY CHALLENGED GROWING FAMILY, AND AS A COLLEGE STUDENT STUDYING TO BECOME A TEACHER, I LEARNED HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR LITTLE ONES TO HAVE ACCESS TO BOOKS. WHEN CAREGIVERS READ TO CHILDREN, THEIR CHANCES OF SUCCESS AS ADULTS INCREASES DRAMATICALLY.

I WAS ABLE TO PUT LEGS TO THIS WHEN I CREATED THE UNITED WAY OF THE CROSS RODES TINY LIBRARY PROGRAM AND STOCKED THOSE SHOALS IN THE AREA DAY CARES WITH THE HELP OF OUR LIBRARY.

THROUGH MY WORK OF THE UNITED WHICH CHALLENGE, THE FAMILY FIRST COMMITTEE AND COUNTLESS BOARDS, I HAVE COME TO UNDERSTAND ALL OF THE OTHER PROGRAMS PEOPLE ACCESS AT THE LIBRARY. THINGS THAT MANY OF US TAKE FOR GRANTED, LIKE WIFI, PRINTING, TRANSLATION, HELP WITH TAX AND SCHOLARSHIP FORMS AND, OF COURSE, SOCIAL OUTLETS.

YOU MAY NOT KNOW THIS, BUT PUBLIC LIBRARY AS A PIECE OF LOWER CLASSES AND LIMITED MEANS CAN ACCESS INFORMATION AND LIFT THEMSELVES FROM POVERSY. VPL IS AND SHOULD ALWAYS BE A PLACE WHERE ALL PEOPLE ARE REPRESENTED AND WELCOMED. I HOPE YOU WILL APPOINTED ME TO THE LIBRARY BOARD SO THAT I CAN USE MY EXPERIENCE TO SUPPORT THAT WORK AND HOPE TO CONTINUE

IT, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST IN THE LIBRARY

BOARD. MANY KATHERINE OLSON. >>.

>> GOOD EVENING MAY O AND MEMBER INJURIES ON OF THE COUNCIL. IT WAS ENCOURAGED BY YOUR ATTENDANCE AT THE LAST LIBRARY BOARD MEETING, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

A CONSISTENT THEME FOR THE COUNSEL MEETING LIBRARY BOARD MEETING HAS BEEN PROTECT THE CHILDREN. YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED THAT THE SUBJECT OF CHILDREN NEVER CAME UP AFTER THE CITIZENS SHARED THEIR THOUGHTS OF THE CITIZENS WHO SPOKE, I FOUND MOST SHOCKING THOSE WHO SAID THEY ARE HAPPY WITH THICKS THE WAY THEY ARE. I AM CONVINCED I CAN SHOCK THEM INTO A DIFFERENT OPINION, IN A MATTER OF MINUTES BY ESCORTING THEM AROUND THE CHILDREN'S SECTION OF THE LIBRARY. FOR THOSE OF US WHO HAVE TAKEN A REALLY CLOSE LOOK AT SOME OF THESE CHILDREN'S BOOKS AND HAVE FOUND THEM OR RENDSOUS WE FIND OURSELVES STUCK IN THIS REVOLVING DOOR EFFORT TRYING TO AFFECT CHANGE. FOR THAT REASON I'M ASKING THAT YOU CONSIDER ME FOR OUR POSITION ON THE LIBRARY BOARD, ALONG WITH OTHERS WHO HOPE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. SOME OF THE IDEAS THAT I HAVE THAT I THINK COULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE IS FOR THE BOARD TO ACTUALLY HAVE A HAN-OFFEND LOOK AT BOOK METHOD.

A POTENTIAL FOR GOOD AND HARM FOR WHAT COMES INTO THE LIBRARY. WHO PREVIEWS THEM? AND WHY SO MANY? IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT AS MANY AS 3,000 CHILDREN'S BOOKS COME INTO THE LIBRARY ANNUAL ILY, THAT IS A LOT. HERE IS A FUN FACT.

OF THE 40 BOOKS TAKEN UNDER REVIEW AFTER CONCERN WAS EXPRESSED ABOUT THE CONTENT ZERO WERE REMOVED. I APPRECIATE THE ADDITION OF THE BOOKS RECOMMENDED, BUT I DON'T THINK ANY OF THE BOOKS THAT WE FOUND OFFENSIVE WERE ACTUALLY REMOVED TO ME THAT IS A PROBLEM.

AND YOU KNOW, THAT MAKES CITIZENS FEEL LIKE AN UNHAPPY WOMAN IN AN UNHAPPY MARRIAGE, UNSEEN AND UNHEARD. IT IS A PROBLEM. I FEEL LIKE THE MEMBERS OF OF OUR COMMUNITY NEED US TO DO BETTER, BELTER THAN HAVING FILTHY-SEXUALLY-CHARGED MATERIAL IN THE CHILDREN'S SECTION OF THE LIBRARY FOR THE UNSUSPECTING CHILDREN'S EYES TO SEE.

IT IS REALLY UNSPEAKABLE AND YET THEIR EYES ARE SEEING THINGS THAT THEY CANNOT UNSEE.

LASTLY, ONE NEED THAT I THINK NEEDS TO CHANGE WITH THE LIBRARY BOARD IS FOR THE VOTING TO BE ANONYMOUS. FOR GOODNESS SAKE TO CALL OUT YOUR VOTE WITH EVERY EVIL EYE IN THE ROOM DARING YOU TO DISAGREE. I JUST THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE A POSITIVE CHANGE SO THAT PEOPLE COULD ACTUALLY EXPRESS WHAT THEY THINK AND HOW THEY FEEL. I AM GRATEFUL FOR THE LIBRARIES ADDING THE BOOKS TO THE COLLECTIONS, BUT I THINK THERE ARE SOME TIMELESS BOOKS THAT SHOULD REMAIN ALWAYS THAT ARE NEVER OUTDATED, AUTOBIOGRAPHY, BOOKS ABOUT OUR LEADERS AND OUR

COUNTRY'S HISTORY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU, MS. OLSENSON,

THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST. >> MS. JILL BUCHANAN. HELLO, I'VE BEEN REWRITING WHAT I SO, I THINK I KIND OF KNOW ALL OF YOU GUYS TO SO MANY DEGREE.

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MY NAME IS JILL BUCHANON, IT WAS SUGGESTED TO ME THEY SHOULD COME TO INTRODUCE MYSELF TO YOU GUYS AND LET YOU KNOW OF MY DESIRE TO RETURN TO THE LIBRARY BOARD. LIKE KIM PICKEN, I SERVED ON THE LIBRARY BOARD I GUESS WHEN MY SONS WERE IN HIGH SCHOOL AND JUNIOR HIGH AND I LEFT THE BOARD TO BECOME A LIBRARIAN TO FILL A SPOT. I KNOW YOU HAVE A STACK OF ALL THESE PEOPLE WHO APPLIED BUT I THOUGHT I WOULD RUN DOWN MY QUALIFICATIONS.

I GRADUATED FROM COLLEGE IN 1988 WITH A DEGREE IN EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION.

I'M CERTIFIED TO TEACHER SL AND SPECIAL ED AND ALL AREAS AS WELL.

AND THEN IN 1993 I GOT -- I CERTIFIED IN LIBRARY SCIENCE AND BECAME A ELEMENTARY LIBRARIAN.

I WAS LIBRARIAN THERE AND THEN TOOK A HIGH JUSTIATEUS TO BE A STAY-AT-HOME MOM.

WE MOVED HERE AND I GOT A JOB HELPING AT ROLAND AND OPENED THE LIBRARY AT SHALL MAR.

I DID THAT FOR A FEW YEARS AND SONS WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL AND JUNIOR HIGH AND I NEEDED TO BE PRESENT AGAIN. DID THAT AND WENT BACK TO WORK AT ROLAND AND IN BETWEEN ALL THAT I SUBBED IN THECO KAY LIBRARY, THE AND WEST LIBRARY. I HAVE A RANGE OF EXPERIENCE.

ALSO, AS FAR AS THE PUBLIC LIBRARY GOES, WHEN WE LIVED IN EDNA WE RODE OUR BICYCLES TO THE LIBRARY AS A FAMILY. WHEN WE MOVED HERE WE GOT LIBRARY CARDS, WHEN WE GO TO PART ALTO WE USE THE LIBRARY AT POINT COMFORT. I COME FROM A FAMILY OF READERS AND RAISED A FAMILY OF READERS. I USE THE LIBRARY NOW, JUST IN THERE THIS WEEK RECHECKING SOME BOOKS AND AS A SCHOOL LIBRARIAN I ALSO KIND OF LOOK THROUGH TO SEE WHAT THE NEW BOOKS ARE.

I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE LIBRARY LAYOUT. I KNOW WHERE THE CHILDREN'S BOOKS ARE, WHERE THE JOURNAL BOOKS ARE, WHERE THE YOUNG ADULT BOOKS ARE.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WAY THAT OUR LIBRARY IS SET UP. IT IS SET UP SO THAT THE SHELFS ARE A HEIGHT WHERE PARENTS CAN MONITOR THEIR CHILDREN AND I APPRECIATE THAT WE HAVE A POLICY WHERE PARENTS CANNOT DROP THEIR CHILDREN OFF UNATTENDED UNTIL THEY REACH THE AGE OF 12 TO 13, BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME TEEN PROGRAMS. AND I BELIEVE IN PARENTING.

I DON'T LET MY CHILDREN RUN DIDN'T LET THEM ROAM THROUGH THE HEB EATING GRAPES AND BANANAS, BECAUSE I'M A PARENT. I DON'T LIKE COCONUTS SO I'M NOT INTERESTED IN THAT.

WHEN I GO TO THE LIBRARY, THERE ARE THINGS I'M NOT INTERESTED IN.

I WOULD HAVE NEVER LET MY CHILDREN READ BOOKS ABOUT JEFFREY DAHMER OR NAZI GERMANY BEFORE IT IS TOO EARLY FOR THEM. BUT I BELIEVE AS A PARENT, IT IS MY CALL.

AND I LOVE WHAT THE LIBRARY AND THE LIBRARY BOARD IS DOING NOW, WITH THE LIBRARY CARD.

AS A LIBRARIAN IT IS SO EASY TO GO INTO THE SYSTEM AND RESTRICT USERS AND RESTRICT FORALL OF THE DIFFERENT REASON, I WOULD LOVE TO BE A PART OF THE SOLUTION AND GET RID OF THE PROBLEM.

>> THANKS, MS. BUCHANON, THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST. MR. JIM HESTER.

>> HELLO AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THE TIME. I WANT TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE DATA AND STUFF LIKE THAT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE FOR THE TEXAS STATE IF YOU TAKE ABOUT THE ANNUAL GRAD DAUGHTS IT IS AROUND 42%. IF YOU LOOK AT THE DISTRICT WE'RE IN, VICTORIA INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, IT IS 31.5% IF YOU LOOK AT THE AFRICAN-AMERICANS IT IS AN AVERAGE OF 18% OF HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES ONLY 18% OF THEM ARE READY TO GO TO COLLEGE.

IF YOU LOOK AT HISPANICSU IT IS 25. IF YOU LOOK AT THE WHITES IS SOMEWHERE AROUND 47. IF YOU LOOK AT THE 8S SOMEWHERE AROUND 73%.

I STILL WANT TO SAY, HEY, WE STILL NEED SOMEHOW IN THIS CITY, INCLUDING WHAT GOES ON IN THE LUBE PRAYERRY TO BE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING STUFF THAT IS HELPING KIDS LEARN STUFF THAT IS IMPORTANT. I DID HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE LIBRARY BILL OF RIGHTS YOU UNDERSTAND IS NOT THE UNITED STATES BILL OF RIGHTS IT IS AN ORGANIZATION, THAT WANTED IT.

WHAT WAS TRD INTERESTING TO ME THE THERE WAS A SECTION. IF BILL OF RIGHTS HAD SEVERAL ITEMS, THE INTERPRETATION INCLUDED 28. ONE EXAMPLE OF THAT, ACCESS TO LIBRARY RESOURCES AND SERVICES FOR MINORS. LIBRARY POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THAT EFFECTIVELY DENY MINORS EQUAL AND EQUITABLE ACCESS TO ALL LIBRARY RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO OTHER USERS WHEN THERE WAS THAT DISCUSSION GOING ON THERE WAS A LOT OF THIS SUPPOSED TO BE

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BROAD, SUPPOSED TO BE OPEN AND STUFF LIKE. THAT I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT WE NEED OBSCENITY AND STUFF LIKE THAT IN ANY OF THE LIBRARY STUFF.

I'D LIKE TO GO ON AND TALK ABOUT WHAT A LIBRARY SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.

AND THIS IS BASED ON A UNITED STATES AMERICAN LIBRARY ASSOCIATION LAWSUIT THAT WAS SETTLED IN JUNE 23RD, 2003. THE GUY WHO GAVE THE DISCUSSION OF IT WAS RAIN QUIST AND HE WAS A CHIEF JUSTICE. HE SAID ABOUT LIBRARY TROYS HELP RESEARCH, ACQUIRING KNOWLEDGE OR RECREATION. IN ALL THESE CASES THE LIBRARY PROVIDES MATERIAL THAT ARE BOTH NEEDED AND MEET THE LIBRARY STAND AROUND OF QUALITY, JUST AS BOOKS ARE NOT FURNISHED IN ORDER THAT THE AUTHORS MAY HAVE A WIDE FORUM IN WHICH TO SPEAK,NA THAT IS NOT IN BENEFIT OF THE OR AUTHORS BUT USE OF THE LIBRARY PATRON. AND I BELIEVE THAT IS VERY TORONTO THAN WHAT THIS STUFF WAS SAID BY ALL. AT THAT POINT I THINK I'M PRETTY

MUCH OUT OF TIME, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU, MR. HESTER.

MS. SARAH ZOELLER. >> THANK YOU FOR THE TIME AND ATTENTION YOU'VE GIVEN TO OUR LOCAL LIBRARY. MY NAME IS AIR ARA ZOELLER AND I HOPE YOU CHECK ME TO SERVE ON THE LIBRARY BOARD. I'M A LIFELONG VICTORIAN. MY INTEREST IN THIS TOPIC IS THE RESULT OF MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCES AT THE LIBRARY WITH MY CHILDREN WHO ARE CURRENTLY IN ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE SCHOOL AGES. OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS I'VE FOLLOWED THE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE LIBRARY LEARNED MORE ABOUT THEIR POLICIES AND THE ROLE OF THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD. I'VE ATTENDED OR WATCHED MEETINGS OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND LIBRARY BOARD TO LISTEN AND TO LEARN. IT SEEMS WE NEED A BALANCED, SENSIBLE APPROACH TO THIS TOPIC THAT LOOKS FOR AREAS OF AGREEMENT.

WE ALL AGREE THE LIBRARY SHOULD BE STOCKED WITH VARIOUS PERSPECTIVES ON MANY DIFFERENT TOPICS. IN ADDITION, WE WANT OUR LIBRARY TO BE A PLACE OF LEARNING AND LEISURE FOR ADULTS AND CHILDREN ALIKE SHELFS AND BOOK BINS AT THEIR HEIGHT, SMALLER FURNITURE AND AREAS TO CLIMB. THIS COMMUNICATES TO ANYONE WHO WALKS INTO THE LIBRARY THAT THIS IS AN AREA APPROPRIATE FOR CERTAIN AGES THIS DOES NOT ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF PLACEMENT OF MATERIALS THIS ACTUALLY HAS THE MATERIAL TO INCREASE CONFUSION.

EVEN IF NO ONE SIGNS UP FOR THE RESTRICTED CARD, SIMPLY HAVING IT LISTED AS AN OPTION IMPLIES TO THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY THAT THERE IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT ABOUT THE MATERIALS IN THE AREAS FOR KIDS AND TEENS. BUT IF WE DON'T UPDATE THE SELECTION CRITERIA TO INCLUDE AGE APPROPRIATENESS FOR THOSE MATERIALS, THAT WE HAVE COMMUNICATED SOMETHING TO OUR COMMUNITY THAT IS UNTRUE WE ARE MISLEADING PATIENTS AND GUARDIANS WITH A RESTRICTED CARD IF THERE ARE NOT RESTRICTIONS ON THE MATERIALS IN THAT SECTION. YOU HAVE ASKED FOR VERY BALANCED AND REASONABLE ADJUSTMENTS TO BE MADE IN THE CLASSIFICATION OF SOME BOOKS BUT THE CURRENT BOARD HAVE NOT IMPRELIMINARIED YOUR CHANGES. I'M WILLING TO WORK WORES TO MAKE SENSIBLE CHANGES THAT ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF OUR COMMUNITY AND ALSO RETAIN A DIVERSITY OF VIEWPOINTS IN OUR LIBRARY, ESPECIALLY IN THE ADULT SECTION.

I THINK IT ASK POSSIBLE TO FIND A BALANCED SOLUTION AND BRING PIECE TO THIS ISSUE I BELIEVE

I'M A GREAT CAN STAT AND I HOPE YOU WILL SELECT ME TO SERVE. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MEDICATION ZOELLER. >> MR. VON DERRAUGH.

>> GOLFING TO TALK ABOUT THE NEW RATING SYSTEM I THINK THE CITY COUNCIL AND PUT PG 13, RATED ARE, RATED X AND I DON'T KNOW ANYONE THAT HAS DONE THAT, I DO CONSIDER I DON'T KNOW WHY

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SOMETHING LIKE THAT COULD BE DONE, JUST GET FOUR STAMPS, AN X, A PG-30, A PG, ALL THE CONTROVERSIAL BOOKS, RATE THEM AND THEN TAKE A VOTE ON IT AND IF IT IS 4-3, PG-13, THE MAYOR COULD DO IT IF IF IT IS TIED JUST LEAVE IT ALONE AND THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE. AND ANIMAL CONTROL ARE GIVING OUT TRAPS AND PICKING UP DOGS, FROM PRE-TRIAL SERVICES TOOK CARE OF THOSE DOGS IN THE KENNELS BECAUSE THEY GOT NINE ANIMAL ABUSE CASES AND THAT IS WHY THEY WORK PICKING UP DOGGINGS AS MUCH BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE ROOM, BUT I DO THINK THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE ROOM BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY STRAY DOGS AND NOT ALL OF THEM ARE STRAY, A LOT ARE OWNED I PUT GATES AND THEY FIGURED IT OUT AND COULDN'T GET IN, BUT I WISH SOMEONE COULD TAKE CARE OF IT AND I DON'T SEE WHY THE CITY COUNCIL COULDN'T DEVELOP THEIR OWN RATING SYSTEM AND THEY COULD DO IT FREE OF CHARGE.

AND YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE CITY COUNCIL, HAVE A IQ OF ABOUT 120 AND STUFF, SOY I THINK THAT COULD WORK OUT. IF NOT I COULD RATE THEM IF YOU WANT, I COULD READ THE BOOKS, MAKE SOME STAMP, I WON'T CHARGE NOTHING, BUT ANYWAY, HAVE A GOOD DAY.

>> THANK YOU. MS. JILL FOX. >>.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU TONIGHT. MY AFFAIR WAS A PROFESSOR OF READING EDUCATION. HE TAUGHT TEACHERS HOW TO TEACH CHILDREN TO READ.

HE SPOKE OFTEN OF THE POWER OF BOOKS AND OF READING TO EDUCATE, TO CHANGE LIVES, TO ATTAR PERSPECTIVES AND PATHWAYS. HE SPOKE ALSO OF THE RESPONSIBILITY OF PARENTS AND TEACHERS AND ALL ADULTS. TO USE THAT POWER WISELY, TO PROTECT CHILDREN WITH THAT POWER. I HAVE A P H. D. IN CHILD DEVELOPMENT AND FAMILY STUDIES.

I UNDERSTAND HOW CHILDREN AND ADULTS PROCESS AND USE THE INFORMATION THAT THEY READ I'VE BAN PUBLIC EDUCATOR FOR ALMOST 40 YEARSES BUT AT THE ELEMENTARY LEVEL AND IN UNDERGRADUATE AND GRADUATE PROGRAMS AT THE UNIVERSITY LEVEL. AS A CONSERVATIVE UNIVERSITY PROFESSOR I'VE LEARNED HOW TO MAKE A POINT, EVEN WHEN THERE IS DISAGREEMENT TO ADD AN ALTERNATE PERSPECTIVE AND THE STAND MY GROUNDEEN WHEN I'M IN THE NORTH. I HOPE YOU WILL LET ME USE MY KNOWLEDGE AND SKILLS IN SERVICE OF OUR PUBLIC LIBRARY. AND IN SERVICE OF OUR VICTORIA

COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MS. FOX, THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST IN THE LIBRARY BOARD. HARLEY FISKE.

>> GOOD EVENING, I BELIEVE WE'VE HEARD A LOT FROM A GROUP THAT CLAIMS TO WANT TO PROTECT CHILDREN FROM BOOKS. THEY'RE USING THE FALSE PRETENSE THAT THESE BOOKS ARE OBSCENE AND IN REALITY THESE BOOKS ARE ONLY REFLECTING A LIFESTYLE THEY DO NOT WANT TO ACCEPT.

THEY'RE WILLING TO DISCOUNT ALL THOSE CHILDREN WHO NEED THESE BOOKS THAT HELP VALID DATE THE LIFE THEY WERE BORN INTO. FOR THESE KIDS THEIR SEXUAL ORIENT 8 OR CONFUSION IS NOT A CHOICE ANYMORE THAN WAS BEING NORMAL. WE KNOW THAT ANXIETY, DEPRESSION AND SUICIDE AFFECTS MORE YOUNGER PEOPLE THAN EVER BEFORE. THERE ARE MULTIPLE CONTRIBUTING FACTORS THAT PLAY A ROLE IN THIS INCLUDING COVEID, SOCIAL MEDIA, PEER PRESSURE, PARENTAL DISCONNECT AND UNCERTAINTY ABOUT THE FUTURE. WE KNOW THAT INDIVIDUALS IN ANY MARGINALIZED POPULATION ARE MORE LIKELY TO SUFFER FROM THESE ISSUE BUT A BEAS OF A LACK OF COMMUNITY ACCEPTANCE. WE'VE SEEN THE JOY IN MANY GROUPS AS THEY'RE FINALLY ABLE TO SEE PEOPLE LIKE THEM, IN MOVIE, TV PROGRAMS AND MAGAZINES AND COMMERCIALS.

PERHAPS THE GREATEST ANECDOTE TO THIS EPIDEMIC AND PARENTS HAVE OPEN, HONEST CONVERSATIONS WITH THEIR CHILDREN. THESE CONVERSATIONS NEED TO ADDRESS ALL THE THINS THAT TOUCH THE LIVES OF THEIR KIDS. THAT MEANS THE BIG THINGS AS WELL AS THE LITTLE ONES.

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IF YOU THINK YOU CAN PREVENT YOUR CHILD FROM LEARNING ABOUT THE WORLD, YOU ARE DOOMED TO FAILURE. MAYBE THIS WORKS IF YOU HOMESCHOOL, HAVE NO PHONE ORR TV AND KEEP THEM IN A HOUSE WITHOUT ACCESS TO FRIENDS -- WAIT, THAT IS NOT A CHILD, THAT IS IS A PRISONER. YOUR CHILD PROBABLY KNOWS MORE THAN YOU CAN IMAGINE ABOUT LGBTQ COMMUNITY ASSUMING THEY'RE NOT A PRISONER IN THEIR OWN HOME. INFORMATION IS PROBABLY AVAILABLE ON THEIR PHONE AND THROUGH THEIR PEERS. READING ABOUT SOMEONE ELSE'S LIFESTYLE DOES NOT MAKE THEM WANT TO ADOPT THAT LIFESTYLE IF IT IS NOT FOR THEM.

PEOPLE ARE BORN INTO THE LGBTQ SPECTRUM. IT IS NOT A CLUB THAT YOU CHOOSE TO JOIN. SO, YES, I AM IN SUPPORT OF LIBRARY CONTINUING TO DO WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN EDUCATED TO DO, TO SUPPORT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY AND THE NEEDS OF ALL ITS CITIZENS. PEOPLE SOMETIMES ASK WHY I GET HUMAN TORE DEFEND THE LIBRARY, OF COURSE IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO, BUT PERHAPS REVISING AN OLD SAYING MIGHT HELP EXPLAIN IT. FIRST, THEY CAME FOR THE GAY, BUT I WAS NOT GAY, SO I DID NOT SPEAK OUT. NEXT THEY CAME FOR THE LIBRARIANS SO I WAS TO NOT A LIBRARIAN SO I DID NOT SPEAK OUT. THEN THEY CAME FOR ME, I HOPE

THERE IS SOMEONE TO SPEAK FOR ME. >> THANK YOU MR. FISKE.

SHARON STUBBLEFIELD. >> GOOD EVENING MAYOR BAUKNIGHT AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, I COME BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING TO ADDRESS THE LIBRARY BOOK ISSUE. FOR OVER 50 YEARS AS AN RN AND A P H. D. LICENSE COUNSELOR I HAVE WORKED WITH CHILDREN AND THEIR FAMILIES IN A NUMBER OF SETTINGS. I BELIEVE WE COULD SAY THAT WE'RE A FRIENDLY AND WELCOMING COMMUNITY. WITH A DIVERSE POPULATION. HOWEVER, IT SEEMS WE ARE BECOMING LESS AND LESS INCLUSIVE. IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOT MARGINALIZE OTHERS WHO MAY NOT HAVE THE SAME RELIGIOUS BELIEFS, SEXUAL ORIENT 8, OR CULTURAL VALUES THAT WE HAD. I BELIEVE YOUR TASK IS TO GOVERN AND SET POLICY FOR ALL IN OUR COMMUNITY PEDOPHILIA AND HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT THE SAME THING.

HOMOSEXUALITY DOES NOT LEAD TO PEDPHILIA. READING A BOOK OR BOOKS DOES NOT CAUSE HOMOSEXUALITY OR TRANSGENDER IDENTITY ISSUES. RECENTLY A PERSON WHO IS A CHURCH-GOING CHRISTIAN AND A REPUBLICAN WROTE A LETTER TO THE EDITOR ABOUT THE BOOK CONTROVERSY. SHE WROTE THESE BOOKS ARE A LIFELINE TO YOUNG PEOPLE'S STRUGGLING WITH THEIR IDENTITY WHILE OFTEN BEING BULLIED AND FREQUENTLY CONTEMPLATING SUICIDE. SHE FELT THESE BOOKS WOULD HAVE BENEFITED HER TWO GAY BROTHERS WHEN THEY WERE GROWING UP. SHE EXPRESSED GRATITUDE THAT THEY ARE AVAILABLE TODAY.

THE LIBRARY IS FOR ALL OF US TO ENJOY. IF THESE AND OTHER BOOKS WERE NOT AVAILABLE -- AND I'VE HEARD IT SAID, WELL, PARENTS COULD BUY THE BOOKS IF THEY WANT THEIR CHILDREN TO READ THEM. IF YOU'RE POOR, YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT.

I DO SUPPORT THE LIBRARY THE TIERED-LINE BRAAE RICARD. I WANT WHAT IS HELPFUL FOR ALL OF US, HETEROSEXUAL, HOMOSEXUALN TRANSGENDER, CHRISTIANS, JEWS, MUSLIMS AND NON-BELIEVERS.

I APPRECIATE THE DIFFICULT TASK BEFORE YOU AS YOU GRAPPLE WITH THESE AND MANY OTHER ISSUES.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO COMMEND DATA AND LIBRARY STAFF OF THE WONDERFUL WORK THEY DO UNDER THESE DAYS UNDER CHALLENGING CIRCUMSTANCES. I WISH YOU IN OUR COMMUNITY THE VERY BEST. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU MS. STUBBLEFIELD.

>> SUZANNE LE BREAST CANCER. >> GOOD EVENING, GOOD EVENING, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

I'M HERE REPRESENTING BARBARA DAVID, AND BAR BRA HAD TO BE OUT OF TOWN BUT FELT IT WAS SO IMPORTANT, SHE ASKED ME TO COME AND READ HER RASHES SO ON BEHALF OF BARBARA DAVID, THIS IS WHAT SHE SAYS, SINCE AUGUST, 2021, I HAVE BEEN A MEMBER OF THE VICTORIA LIBRARY BOARD SERVING A ONE-YEAR TERM I I AM ASKING FOR REAPPOINTMENT TO THE VICTORIA LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD, I'M WELL

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QUALIFIED AS I HAVE ALREADY SERVED FOR ONE YEARS AND IN ADDITION A MEMBER OF THE SAN MARCOS TEXAS LIBRARY BOARD FOR FOUR YEARS I UNDERSTAND THE RESPONSIBILITIES AS WELL AS THE COMPLEXITIES OF BEING ON THIS BOARD AS A CURRENT BOARD MEMBER I HAVE TAKEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO OTHER RESIDENTS ABOUT THE ISSUES WE ARE PRESENTLY FACING.

FORTUNATELY, I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HEAR DIFFERING OPINIONS AND I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS ON MANY SIDES. BEING ABLE TO HEAR DIFFERING OPINIONS ON DIFFERENT ISSUE, I BELIEVE I CAN OFFER A THOUGHTFUL, CREATIVE AND REASONABLE SOLUTIONS.

ON BEHALF OF BARBARA, THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING ME FOR ANOTHER TERM ON THE VICTORIA LIBRARY

BOARD SINCERELY BARBARA DAVIS, BUT I'M REALLY SUZANNE. >> YES, REALLY NICE FOR YOU TO

COME IN HERE AND SPEAK FOR HER MS. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY OF BEING CONSIDERED FOR A SEAT ON THE VICTORIA LIBRARY ADVISORY BORE. I FEEL PRIVILEGED AT THE OPPORTUNITY OF SERVING THIS COMMUNITY SHOULD I GET ELECTED. I KNOW THAT LIBRARY IS ARE IMPORTANT IN ALL CITIES BECAUSE THEY FACILITATE LEARNING, LITERACY AND EDUCATION.

ACCORDING TO SOCK ACCURATE TEES AND PLATO THE APE OF EDUCATION IS TO OBTAIN KNOWLEDGE.

TO THEM OBTAINMENT OF KNOWLEDGE WAS NECESSARY BOTH FOR THE INDIVIDUAL AND THE SOCIETY.

HENCE IT WAS VIRTUE CHEW BY ITSELF. I PRAY I CAN BRING MY OWN SET OF SKILLS AND VALUES TO THE LIBRARY BOARD AS WELL AS ANY IDEAS TO ENHANCE THE PURSUIT OF EXCELLENCE BOOKS, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MY BACKGROUND, I HAVE A DEGREE OF HISTORY AND POLITICAL SCIENCE IN EDUCATION CURRENTLY I'M A REAL ESTATE BROKER IN TOWN AND ENJOY BEING ACTIVE PART OF THIS COMMUNITY. I'M A BROTHER AND A GRANDMOTHER. I HAVE TWO CHILDREN, MY SON IS A FEDERAL JUDGE IN PENNSYLVANIA AND MY DAUGHTER IS SALES AND MARKETING INVESTIGATE EXECUTIVE IN SALES FORCE. BEING AN AVID READER I ENCOURAGE MY CHILDREN IN THE PURSUIT OF KNOWLEDGE AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF MORAL CHARACTER, TALKING ABOUT CHILDREN, I FEEL EVERY BOOK A CHILD PICKS UP ON THE LIBRARY SHOULD HAVE LOEHRRARY VALUE AND LEAD TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF GOOD MORE A CHARACTER, I HOPE TO DO MY BEST FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THIS COMMUNITY, THANK YOU.

JO THANK YOU SO MUCH AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST OF THE LIBRARY BOARD.

>>. >> GREETING MRS. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEANS, MY NAME OUR LIBRARY CAN BE A GREAT RESOURCE TO OUR COMMUNITY I BELIEVE THERE IS A LOT OF THINGS THAT LIBRARY DOES WELL WHO DOESN'T LIKE BUILDING A GINGERBREAD HOUSE IN CHRISTMAS TIME WITH YOUR CHILDREN OR GRANDCHILDREN. I DO HAVE CONCERNS THAT I HAVE VOICED MORE THAN A FEW DAYS OVER THE PAST FOUR MONTHS, AND ACTUALLY OVER THE PAST YEAR, BUT I WON'T REITERATE THEM ALL HERE.

MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE RAISED THREE CHILDREN AND WE HAVE A LOT OF GRANDCHILDREN.

NOW THAT I'M OLDER, I UNDERSTAND MORE CLEARLY WHAT LIFE IS ALL ABOUT.

AND I'VE COME TO REALIZE THAT LIFE IS VERY SHORT WE WANT OUR GRAND CHILDREN AND ALL CHILDREN TO HAVE A SOLID FOUNDATION IN READING, WRITING AND ARITHMETIC AND A SOLID FOUNDATION IN THE TRUTH, JUST LIKE WE WERE ABLE TO GIVE TO OUR CHILDREN TRUTH AND WHAT IS REAL AND FEELINGS ARE DIFFERENT THAN TRUTHS. FEELINGS CHANGE AND SOMETIMES EVEN TRICK US AND MISLEAD US.

KNOWING TRUTH IS IMPORTANT. RIGHT AND WRONG ARE TRUTH, NOT FEELINGS.

AND THEY ARE THE SAME FOR EVERYONE. OUR CREATOR IS THE SOURCE OF THE RULES FOR RIGHT AND WRONG AND THEY COME FROM HIS CHARACTER. THERE IS NO CASE LAW THAT I COULD FIND THAT SAYS YOU MUST HAVE SEXUAL MATERIAL AND THAT CHILDREN'S OR TEEN'S SECTION OF OUR LIBRARY. RIGHT NOW, WE ARE MAKING THE CHOICE AS A COMMUNITY TO HAVE SEXUALLY INAPPROPRIATE MATERIALS IN THESE SECTIONS THIS IS IS A SHAME BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF TREASURES IN THE LIBRARY AND CHILDREN SHOULD BE ABLE TO DISCOVER THEM ON THEIR OWN.

THAT IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF THEIR EDUCATIONAL DEVELOPMENT. AND I WANT TO BE A PART OF MAKING SURE WE HAVE AGE AND CONTENT APPROPRIATE BOOKS FOR OUR CHILDREN TO DISCOVER.

I ASK FOR YOUR VOTE TO BE PLACED ON THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD. I AM REASONABLE, I'M THOUGHTFUL

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OF OTHERS, UNCONTROLLED AND -- CONTROLED AND MEASURE AND SPEND TIME READING AND RESEARCHING TODAY'S ISSUES. I'M COMMITED AND I BELIEVE THAT YOU'VE SEEN THAT IN ME OVER THE LAST FOUR MONTHS. I'M A HARD WORKER. I LISTEN TO OTHERS EVEN WHEN WE HAVE DIFFERING VIEWS AND EDO MY BEST TO BE RESPECTFUL. I'M A RESOURCE PERSON AND I HAVE A IDEAS TO BRING TO THE TABLE TO SOLVE THIS ISSUE. MY MOM WAS A L LIBRARIAN FOR MAY YEARS AND SHE TOLD US IT IS OUR JOB TO PROVIDE GOOD BOOKS FOR CHILDREN.

I'VE ALSO SET UP A SMALL PRIVATE SCHOOL LINE PRAYERRY SO I HAVE A EXPERIENCE IN THAT IN PURCHASING AND PLACING BOOKS IN THE LIBRARY. I HOPE I CAN COUNT ON YOUR VOTE.

THANK YOU. FOR ALL YOUR TIME AND EFFORT THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN IN TO HELPING PROTECT THE INNOCENCE OF CHILDREN WITH AGE AND CONTENT APPROPRIATE BOOKS PURCHASED WITH

OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST IN THE LIBRARY BOARD. LAST CARD WE HAVE IS

MS. SAMANTHA BELL. >> HELLO, I'M ALSO HERE TO THANK YOU FOR MY CONSIDERATION FOR THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD I AM RELATIVELY NEW TO VICTORIA. I'VE ONLY BE HERE FOR 11 YEARSSH BUT I WENT AND GOT A LIBRARY CARD ALMOST IMMEDIATELY UPON ARRIVING IN TOWN BECAUSE I AM A VERY AVID READER. AND HAVE BEEN WOWED BY OUR LIBRARY SINCE I GOT HERE.

THE NUMBER OF ACTIVITIES, EVERYTHING. WHEN HI SON TURNED THREE HE GOT HIS FIRST LIBRARY CARD. AND SINCE WE LIVE IN DOWNTOWN ONE OF OUR FAVORITE ACTIVITIES ON NICE WEATHER DAYS IS WALK TO THE LIBRARY, GET BOOKS AND SIT IN THE GAZEBO AND READ.

WE'RE VERY AVID READERS, I LOVE THE APP MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. I AM AN AUDIO BOOK PERSON, WE GO THROUGH ABOUT 70 A YEAR. I'VE USED THE LIBRARY FOR SO MANY THINGS.

I WANT TO GIVE BACK AND BE MART OF A DYNAMIC AND GREAT ORGANIZATION.

I KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF CONTROVERSY WITH THE BOOKS RIGHT NOW, BUT THE LIBRARY IS MORE THAN THAT. I THINK THERE AMAZING SO MUCH CONSIDERATION IS BEING GIVEN TO EVERYONE'S CONCERN THAT SO MUCH LISTENING IS HAPPENING, THAT THAT IS JUST AMAZING THAT THE COMMUNITY IS WILLING TO DISCUSS THIS AND TO GO SO IN-DEPTH. BUT I WANT TO BE PART OF THE LIBRARY BOARD FOR MORE THAN JUST THE BOOK SELECTION BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT MORE TO IT.

THERE ARE ARTS EVENTS, THE MUSIC EVENS. LAST YEAR THEY HOSTED A CHOOSE YOUR OWN ADVENTURE WALK DOWNTOWN. IT WAS AMAZING.

MY SON AND I DID MULTIPLE TIME AND SPENT HOURS OUT THERE. THERE IS SO MUCH TO OUR LIBRARY,

AND I WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT, THAT ENDS THE CITIZENS COMMUNICATION PORTION OF THE MEETING.

[1. Appoint/Reappoint up to three members to the Victoria Public Library A...]

AS PROMISED WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ITEM E-1 UP TO AT THIS POINT IN THE AGENDA.

>> ITEM E-1 IS A RESOLUTION TO APPOINT OR REAPPOINT UP TO THREE MEMBERS OF VICTORIA PUBLIC

LIBRARY BOARD. >> THANK YOU. >> AND APRIL WILL WALK YOU

THROUGH THE PROCEDURE. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, THE RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU TONIGHT BEFORE WE GO THROUGH THE VOTING PROCEDURES AND A LITTLE BIT OF A PRESENT 8.

>> AN HOUR. JUST KIDDING. >> THE RESOLUTION FOR YOU TONIGHT WILL APPOINT THREE MEMBERS OF THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD.

THERE ARE DIFFERENT FOCUSED AREAS FOR THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD.

THERE ARE THE LIAISON BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY, GOVERNING BODIES AND LINE PRAYERRY MANAGEMENT AND PROVIDE IN AREAS OF PLANNING AND LIBRARY GOALS AND THEY APPROVE AND SET POLICIES RELATED TO LIBRARY OPERATION, ADVOCATE FOR THE LIBRARY BUDGET AND MONETARIRY, AND LEGISLATIVE INITIATIVES AND PERFORM OTHER DUTIES FUNCTIONS AS DELICATEDGY THE CITY AND COUNTY.

SO THE BOARD IS COMPOSED OF 11 MEMBERS THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN MANY OF THE OTHER BOARDS WE APPOINTED TO BECAUSE THERE ARE FOUR APPOINTEES TO THE COMMUNITY AND COUNTY AND OTHER ONE JOINT APPOINTEE FROM THE CITY AND COUNTY. ONE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE

FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY AND ONE REPRESENTATIVE. >> TWO FROM --

>> IT IS ACTUALLY ONE, THEY SPLIT THE SPOT THAT'S CORRECT THEY SPLIT THE SPOT DEPENDING ON

WHO CAN ATTEND THE MEETING. >> SO IT IS JUST ONE EVEN THOUGH BOTH ATTEND THE MEETING.

>> YES. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

>> AND SO THE APPOINTMENTS ARE FOR THREE YEARS AT A TIME. SO THE APPOINTMENTS THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING TONIGHT, WE HAVE TWO APPOINTMENTS THAT ARE CITY POSITIONS WITH TERMS ENDING IN AUGUST OF 2025. THOSE ARE FULL-TERM ORGANIZATION POSITIONS AND THEN WE HAVE ONE APPOINTMENT WHICH IS THE JOINTLY APPOINTED CITY COUNTY POSITION FILLING AN UNEXPECTPIRED TERM IN OCTOBER OF 2023. WE HAVE 15 APPLICANT, KATHERINE OLSON, AND LESLIE AND KIM WERELY

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PICKENS, KEVIN SMITH, SO MANY SPOKE HERE TONIGHT AND ARE ENCOURAGED TO COME AND SPEAK

TONIGHT BUT WAS NOT A REQUIREMENT. >> SO LAST WEEK ONCE WE LEARN ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL JOINT CITY-COUNTY POSITION WEST COAST BECOMING AVAILABLE I EXPLAINED THE SITUATION TO THEM AND CITY COUNTY EMPLOYMENT AND HOW THE TERM WOULD BE A PARTIAL TERM AND THE PERSON MUST ALSO BE APPOINTED BY THE COUNTY. SO NINE OF THE 15 APPLICANTS AGREED TO BE CONSIDERED FOR THAT POSITION AND THEIR ZILLION NAMES ARE HERE.

SO, TONIGHT WE'RE GOING VOTE JUST A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. SO FIRST OF ALL, IT IS GOING TO BE ELECTRONICALLY AND JAMES WILL EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT TO THAT IN A SECOND.

BUT I FIRST EXPLAIN THE ROUNDS. THE FIRST ROUNDSES WE'RE GOING TO ASK YOU VOTE FOR AT LEAST THREE, BUT NO MORE THAN EIGHT OF THE 15 APPLICANTS. ONLY THE TOP APPLICANTS WILL ADVANCE TO THE NEXT ROUND AND THAT WILL BE THE TOP 8 AT MOST. AND IF NEEDED THE COUNSEL WILL VOTE ON TIES BETWEEN THE APPLICANTS, BEFORE MOVING ONTO THE FLOAT THE NEXT ROUND.

PLEASE NOTE IF AN APPLICANT TESTIFIES FOUR VOTE THE APPLICANT WILL AUTOMATICALLY BE SELECTED TO THE CITY APPOINTED SPOTS UNLESS WE HAVE MORE THAN TWO IN WHICH CASE WE WOULD HAVE TO AGAIN VOTE. SO. IF YOU'LL BEAR WITH US, ALL VOTES WILL BE RECORDED IS AND AVAILABLE IN MY OFFICE I'VE ALREADY EXPLAINED TO EVERYONE, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR BROWSER THERE IS A TABITHA HAS YOUR DISTRICT ON THERE AND WHEN YOU CLICK ON THAT TAB YOU HAVE A LIST OF THE CANDIDATES. WHAT WE ASK YOU TO DO IS PLACE AN X BESIDES THE LIST OF YOUR CANDIDATES YOU CLICK OUT OF THE I WILL TABULATE IT, I WILL REMOVE THE XS AND AFTER I'VE RECORDED THE VOTELY REMOVE THE CANDIDATE PUT YOUR XSIN THE

SLOT. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. >> YES, MA'AM.

WHEN WE VOTE THIS TIME ARE WE VOTING ONLY FOR CITY. >> WHEN WE VOTE WE'RE VOTING FOR PAUL THREE POSITION, JUST INCREMENTALLY DONE IN ROUNDS SO WE HOPEFULLY END UP WITH THREE PEOPLE AT THE END AND AT THAT TIME WE CAN DECIDE BETWEEN THOSE THREE WHO WOULD RECEIVE THE TWO

CITY SPOTS AND THE CITY-COUNTY SPOT. >>.

>> SO YOU'RE GOING VOTE FOR ALL THREE POSITIONS IN EACH ROUND. >> AND TO BE CLEAR, THE FIRST ROUND, WE DO ASK THAT YOU SELECT A MINIMUM OF THREE AND NO MORE THAN 8 WE DON'T WANT YOU TO FORCE IF YOU DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE PICKING 8. AND AS JAMES SAID, HE'LL GET THE

RESULTS ON HIS ENDS AND HE'LL UPDATE THE XCEL ACCORDINGLY. >> AT THIS TIME IF YOU'LL PLEASE

VOTE. >> OR I'M NOT SURE IF ANY DISCUSSION THAT YOU HAVE

BEFOREHAND. >> THE ONLY DISCUSSION I HAD IS THANK YOU TO THE 15 MEMBERS, I SAY THIS TO EVERY BOARD THAT WE DO THIS ONE IS ESPECIALLY IMPRESSIVE THAT WE HAVE 15 MEMBERS, WE KNOW THERE IS A CONTROVERSIAL TOPIC BEING DISCUSSED IN THE COMMUNITY AND 15 COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT ARE WILLING TO STEP UP AND PARTICIPATE.

AND I THINK THAT IS PHENOMENAL. I WANT TO THANK YOU. I'M WONDERING WHAT WHEN DO WE

GET TO DO OUR SECRET VOTES -- >> IT IS VERY, VERY DIFFICULT. I REALIZE ON THE LIBRARY BOARD TO SIT THERE AND DISCUSS ITEMS LIKE THIS. AND TO HAVE ALL YOUR THOUGHTS OUT THERE. I HOPE AND PRAY THAT EVERYBODY IS BEING RESPECTFUL TO YOU AND YOU DESERVE NOTHING LESS THAN RESPECT FOR SERVING ON THE BOARD AND STEPPING UP AND TRYING TO BE

APPOINTED TO THE BOARD THANK YOU AGAIN TO EVERYBODY. >> ALL RIGHT, Y'ALL READY? LET'S VOTE. YOU DON'T NEED A CAPITAL X, DO YOU JAMES.

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>> DO WE EXIT THE SESSION? >> BASICALLY JUST CLICK. I COULD THAT IS A GREAT PLACE.

>> WHEN I DO THAT HAVE I ALREADY CAST MY BALLOT. >> YOU HAVE TO BE CLICKED OUT

AND TABULATE AND JAMES HAS THE SUMMARY AND WE'LL GO THROUGH THE >> TAKE YOUR TIME NO RUSH.

>> WE DO HAVE JEOPARDY MUSIC QUEUED.

>> JUST PUT THE CURSOR ON VOTE? >> YOU HAVE TO PUT AN X IN THE BOX.

>> JUST MOVE YOUR CURSOR SO THAT IT IS. >> THAT IS WHAT ACTUALLY SENDS

IT TO THE TABLATION IS EVERYONE READY NOW? >> LOOK SCHOOL PENCILS NOW

>> SPOILER ALERT NO ONE GOT FOUR. >>.

>> JAMES IS GOING RESET YOUR CARD SO THAT THE EIGHT PEOPLE THAT HAD THE TOP VOTE, SO BASICALLY CUT AND A HALF DO WE, DO WE VERBALIZE THOSE EIGHT OR KNOWN? PROCEDURALLY I DON'T KNOW IF WE WAIT UNTIL THE ENDS OR VERBALIZE TO.

>> USUALLY WHEN WE DO. >> THEY JUST VERBALIZE -- LET'S MOVE FORWARD BUT YEAH, I WOULD

WAIT. >> AND MY XS HAVE DISAPPEARED ARE THEY GOING TO DISAPPEAR?

>> JAMES IS STILL UPDATING IT. >> HE'S GOT TO TAKE THE TIME TO SAVE THAT VOTE SO THAT WE HAVE

IT, THE BALLOT SAVED. >> MARK YOU HAVE YOUR HANDS UP. >> ARE WE GOING TO DO IT.

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IF WE NEED TO GO TO PAPER, THEN LET'S JUST GO THROUGH PAPER, DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH THIS

AGAIN. >> SET NEAT, THE VOTE CAME BACK THE WAY I CAST THEM DIDN'T

CHANGE ANYTHING. >> SAME RULES APPLY. ALL RIGHT, I THINK IT IS A GOOD

IDEA TO GET MORE TEST TIME WITH IT. >> WE'LL HAVE TO VOTE ON OTHER

THINGS. >>. >> IF WE VOTED FOR TOP THREE OF 15 SIX OF THEM WITH ONE VOTE SO AFTER THIS VOTE WE DO HAVE TWO INDIVIDUALS THAT ENDED WITH FOUR VOTES. THE RULES REMAIN THE SAME, THOSE TWO PEOPLE WILL AUTOMATICALLY MOVE FORWATERED BECAUSE THE MAJORITY VOTEP THOSE TWO ARE SO NOW WE NEED TO VOTE THE NEXT WE HAVE THREE INDIVIDUALS THAT ENDED UP WITH THREE VOTES, THEY WOULD BE THE NEXT THREE.

SO YOU WANT TO VOTE BETWEEN THOSE THREE FOR THE CITY-COUNTY SPOT.

>> WELL, WE NEED TO SEE WHO ARE THOSE THREE. >> THREE ARE JILL BUCHANON GABE

POTEC AND BARBARA DAVID JOE Y'ALL GOT THREE. >> YES.

>> HOW MANY DID WE VOTE FOR? >> WE HAVE THREE OF THEM. >> THREE.

>> WE HAVE ONE SLOT OPEN. >> IT IS JOEL BUCHANON, GABE POTEC AND.

>> ONE ON BALLOT TWO,. >> CONTINUE 10, 11 AND 13 ON THE BALLOT.

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>>. >> SORRY, I MESSED THIS UP. I CIRCLED THE ONE ALREADY

APPROVED. >> SO OF THE THREE OF JILL BUCHANON, GABE POTEC AND BARBARA DAVID, THE MOST VOTES WENT TO GAY POTEC AND I BELIEVE SHE IS ON THE LIST OF ONE OF THE PEOPLE WILLING TO ACCEPT THE CITY-COUNTY POSITION. IF THE COUNTY APPOINTED HER AS WELL. SO THAT WOULD MAKE OUR RESOLUTION TO HAVE THE AIRSA

ZOELLER. >> IT IS BETWEEN MS. POT EXPK MS. RANJAN.

>> YOU COULD CHANGE IT IF YOU WANT, BUT THOSE WITH THE MOST VOTE COULD GET THE CITY SPOT WE NEED A MOTION WITH MS. ZOELLERS FOR THE CITY APPOINTEES AND MS. CITY AND COUNTY APPOINTEE.

>> I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? THANK YOU AGAIN TO EVERYBODY THAT APPLIED, THERE ARE OTHER BOARDS THAT YOU CAN STILL WISH TO SERVE THERE ARE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. THERE IS NO FURTHER DISCUSSION,

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YEAH. >> YEAH. THOSE OPPOSE SAME SIGN.

>> MOTION CARRIES, THANK YOU ALL. >> OKAY, WE'RE GOING SWITCH BACK

[1. An ordinance to amend Section 24-51 to add Code Enforcement abatement ...]

SCA PUBLIC HEARINGS IS UP. >> TO PUBLIC HEARINGS ITEM C 1. >> C-1 AN ANDY INSTANCE TO AMEND

SECTION TWO WOULD BE-51 TO ADD CODE ENFORCEMENT ABATEMENT FEES. >> AND AT THIS TIME WE HAVE A

SHORT PRESENT 8. >> I'M JUST HEAR FOR QUESTIONS, AS YOU KNOW WE'RE HIRING AN ABATEMENT CREW. CHAPTER 10 ALLOWS US TO PASS ON ABATEMENT COSTS TO PROPERTY OWNERS AND SO NOW THAT WE ARE HAVING HIRING AN ABATEMENT CREW THIS OR ORDINANCE SETS WHAT THE

COST OF THAT ABATEMENT CREW IS. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> WHAT WAS THE FEE BEFORE -- WHAT ARE WE CHANGING FROM TO THIS HOURLY RATE?

>> SO WE WOULD PASS ON THE DIRECT COST OF THE CONTRACT THAT WE PAID THE CONTRACTORS, SO THAT VARIES DEPENDING ON THE JOB SO GENERALLY, YOU KNOW, 100 TO $200 DEPENDING ON YOUR HONOR, THE SIZE OF THE JOB BUT WE WOULD PASS ON THE EXACT AMOUNT WE PAID THE CONTRACTOR IN ADDITION TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEE, NOW OUR CREWS WILL BE DOING THE ABATEMENT, WE LOOKED AT -- WE TRIED TO MAKE IT COMPARABLE TO WHAT THE CONTRACTORS ARE CHARGING.

AND THAT IS WHERE WE CAME UP WITH THE $60 AND $75 IN ADDITION TO MAKE INCOMPARABLE WE LOOK AT ACTUAL COSTS AND THIS DOES CAPTURE THE ACTUAL SALARY COSTS PLUS THE SOME OF THE COST FOR

MATERIALS. >> EQUIPMENT, GAS, OIL. OKAY.

AT THIS TIME I'LL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM C 1. ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST OR ON THIS ITEM, SPECIFICALLY, PLEASE STEP FORWARD.

SEEING NO ONE WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN ANY MOTION.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> MOTION AND A SECOND TO RAP

PROVE ITEM C 1, ANY STUCKS. >> THOSE OPPOSE SAME SIGN MOTION CARRIES.

[2. An ordinance to amend Section 24-241 of the City Code pertaining to ad...]

ITEM C 2. >> C TWO IS AN ORDY INSTANCE TO AMEND SECTION 24-241 OF THE CITY

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CODE PERTAINING ADDITIONAL GARAGE CARD AND RECYCLING CART FEES.

>> A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND OF WHERE WITH WE STARTED AND WHERE WE'RE AT.

SO JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY, PRIOR TO 2008 WE HAD REAR LOAD PICKUP TWICE A WEEK AND WE PICKED UP EVERYTHING WITH THOSE TRUCK, SEEMS A LITTLE LOUD NOW TOO QUIET.

AND THEN IN JUNE OF 2008 WE STARTED THE AUTOMATIC SYSTEM AND WE T RATE WAS 13.75.

THE PRIOR TO 2008 THE RATE WAS $13.75. AND WE ADDED THE ADDITIONAL CARTS SO WHEN WE DELIVERED CARTS WE GAVE PEOPLE A CHANCE, YOU CAN SIGN UP AHEAD OF TIME, WE DROP TWO CARTS AT OUR HOUSE INSTEAD OF ONE BUT THERE WAS A FEE OF $5 FOR THE ADDITIONAL CART.

SO HERE WE ARE IN 2022, THE RUNT RATE IS STILL 1375, AND EXTRA CART RATE IS STILL $5.

SO THIS IS CAUSED SOME ISSUES FOR US. SO SINCE 2008, AND EVERYBODY IS AWARE OF THIS, BUT I'LL RUN THROUGH THEM, WE'VE HAD INCREASE IN FUEL COSTS, DISPOSAL COSTS, THE CART COST HAS GONE UP, THEY WERE ABOUT 45 BUCKS WHEN WE STARTED BUYING THEM, NOW OVER $60 APIECE. ROUTE TIME, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING WE CAN FOR ALL OF THESE YEARS FOR ALMOST FIN YEARS TO IMPROVE OUR PRODUCTIVITY TO TAKE IN ALL THESE EXTRA CARTS.

5,000 OF THEM PLUS, AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT, BUT WE'RE GETTING AT THE POINT NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE CHANGES AS WE DISCUSSED DURING OUR BUDGET SESSION.

>> SO JUST TOUCHING BASE, BY GOING THROUGH JUNE 1ST, 2008, $5 A CART FOR AN ADDITIONAL CART, WE'RE PROPOSING A FEE INCREASE OF $1.50 THIS IS FOR GARAGE AND RECYCLE, ADDITIONAL CART. WE'RE DOING THIS, THIS IS NOT GOING TO APPLY TO EVERY SINGLE GARAGE CUSTOMER, THEIR RATE WILL STILL STAY THERE ARE 13.75. ONLY PEOPLE WITH ADDITIONAL CARTS WILL RECEIVE THE EXTRA CHARGE OF $1.50 PER ADDITIONAL CART I DIDN'T, MS. SOLIZ WE DID

WHAT WE COULD. >> I KNOW IT IS GOING TO AFFECT ME.

>> SO STARTING OCTOBER 1, 2020 IF COUNCIL APPROVES THE NEW RATE WILL GO TO $$6.50 AND THE CURRENT GARAGE RATE FOR EVERYONE ELSE WHO DOES NOT HAVE A CART AND IT IS VERY IMPORTANT, STAY AT $13.75. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE -- I'M GOING BE BRINGING SOME INCREASES TO FROM THE LANDFILL FROM THE COMPOST FACILITY INNING ON, AND SO WE KNEW THESE WERE COMING BUT WE'RE HOPING THAT WE CAN TAKE 2023 WITH THESE ADDITIONS THAT WE MADE TO THE CARTS TO LOOK THROUGH THIS AND THEN WE'LL KNOW, YOU KNOW, BETTER WHERE WE'RED A WITH YOUR INCREASINGS BECAUSE KEEP IN MIND, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE BASED ON CPI, CPI GOES UP, CPI GOES DOWN BUT WE THINK

WE'LL BE OKAY WITH THIS $1.50 ADDITIONAL RIGHT NOW. >> AND I'LL ANSWER ANY

QUESTIONS. >>. >> CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE DEMAND ON

THE SYSTEM WHEN YOU HAVE MORE THAN ONE CART WHICH IS IN$13.75. >> WHEN WE SET UP THIS OPERATION WE SET UP TO HANDLE THE CART THAT WE HAD, ANY TIME WE ADD AN ADDITIONAL CART IT ADDS 16 TO 20 SECONDS PER ADDITIONAL CART PER ROUTE PER DAY. NOW THAT ALSO ADDS THAT ADDS LANDFILL TIME, WE'LL LOAD OUT ON THOSE ROUTE BUSINESS ADDS INTO MORE LANDFILL TRIPS MORE FUEL, MORE MAINTENANCE ON VEHICLE, MORE TIME FOR THE DRIVERS. AND SO ALL THAT KIND OF BUILDS UP. AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ABSORB THAT THROUGH PRODUCTIVITY.

WU WE'VE GOT TO THE POINT NOW WE CAN'T ABSORB ANYMORE. SO WHAT WE'RE DOING, WE'RE TAKING WHAT HAS BECOME THE BURDEN TO OUR SYSTEM WHICH IS ALL THE EXTRA CARTS AND WE'RE PUTTING THE INCREASE WHERE THAT BURDEN IS WHICH IS ON THE EXTRA CARTS, THEY'RE STILL PAYING THE SAME THING THEY WERE PAYING WHEN WE STARTED. THE BURDEN THAT WE'VE TAKEN

OTHER THAN IS BEING PASSED BACK TO THE EXTRA CARTS. >> THE TOTAL NUMBER OF CLIENTS

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THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE JUST PAYING THE $13.75. PERCENTAGE WISE, WHAT ARE THE

ONES HAVING THE $13.75 PLUS IS THAT MORE? >> WE HAVE ABOUT 5,000 ADDITIONAL CARTS, ACTUALLY MORE THAN THAT WHEN YOU INCLUDE THE RECYCLE CARTS, BUT YOU CAN'T SAY THATNA IS 20% OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE SOME HOUSES HAVE UP TO FOUR ADDITIONAL CARTS THAT IS A REALLY HARD NUMBER FOR ME TO GIVE YOU. IF I HAD TO JUST TAKE A GUESS -- WHICH I REALLY DON'T WANT TO -- IT WOULD NOT BE THAT HUGE OF A NUMBER, BECAUSE THERE ARE MULTIPLE CARDS -- CARTS OR MULTIPLE CUSTOMERS WITH MULTIPLE CARTS NOT ONE ADDITIONAL CART.

>> OKAY, I UNDERSTAND. >> HOW MANY TOTAL REGULAR TRASH CARTS.

>> ABOUT 21,000 REGULAR CUSTOMERS ON A MONTHLY BASIS AND THAT.

>> NOT CUSTOMERS, CARTS. >> SO. >> TRASH CANS.

>> ABOUT 26,000, SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE. >> OVER29,000.

>> IS THAT JUST ONE ROUND YOU CAN TALK INTO THE MIC. >> I IS IT ON?

>> YOUR GORGE, YOUR EXTRA CAR AND THE RECYCLING EXTRA CART, YOUR LOOKING AT CLOSE TO 29,000 ON YOUR GARAGE CART WITHIN $13 SOINT 75 YOU GET 21, 20 TO 21. OKAY.

>> AND THAT IS JUST YOUR REGULAR CUSTOMERS. ACTUALLY ON YOUR REGULAR CUSTOMERS WITH YOUR RECYCLING YOU WOULD HAVE ABOUT 42,000 A MONTH, BUT THAT IS SEPARATE ROUTES. BECAUSE YOUR RECYCLING IS PICKED UP EVERY OTHER WEEK WHILE YOUR GARAGE IS PICKED UP EVERY WEEK. AND YOUR PARTICIPATION RATE IS DIFFERENT BETWEEN THE TWO.

>> I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, THANK YOU FOR FOCUSING ON PRODUCT ACTIVITY SO MUCH OVER THE YEARS, SKIT AMAZING WHEN YOU SHOW THE GRAPHIC THAT PRIOR TO 2008 WE WERE AT $13.75 I COMMEND YOU FROM THE PROGRESS YOU'VE MADE. WHAT I'M HEARING FROM YOU IS DON'T BE SECURE PRICED IF WE HAVE TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS NEXT YEAR, AND I WOULD EXPECT THERE WOULD NEED TO BE.

>> THERE MAY NEED TO BE, BUT CPI IS A FICKLE THING IT COULD GO UP, IT COULD GO DOWN.

I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISEED AND GOES TO THE MEN AND WOMEN OUT THERE DRIVING THE TRUCKS.

>> I LIKE TO ADD ONE MORE THING, TOTAL VOLUME OVER THE PAST YEAR, ESPECIALLY IN COVID, HAVEN'T GOT BACK TO THE NORM ON AN RAN ALL IN BASIS, WE GET IT DOWN BUT HOPEFULLY COME DOWN AND MAYBE

DON HAVE AS MUCH OF AN ISSUE. >> WE'RE STILL SEEING MORE PEOPLE STAY AT HOME, THAT CREATES THAT TAKES THE TRASH OUT OF THE RUNTS AND OUT OF THE BUSINESSES AND PUTS IT IN OUR

OUR CANS. >> THANK YOU. >> THEY DEFINITELY TAKE LESS THAN 20 SECONDS, SO I'VE BEEN OUT THERE TRYING TO GET THE CAN OUT THERE AND THEY'RE PRETTY

QUICK. >> THAT IS BECAUSE THEY NEVER KNOW WHERE I'M HIDING, WATCHING.

>> OKAY, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. LEASEAC. AT THIS TIME WE'LL ENTERTAIN A

HE'S FOR ITEM C-2. >> SO MOVED. >> SEC.

>> MR. CROCKER? ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM C-2 PLEASE, STEP FORWARD.

NO ONE CAME FORWARD WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND NOW RESTATE YOUR MOTION.

>> I MOVE WE APPROVE ITEM C-2. >> THANK YOU, SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE, ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME

[D. Consent Agenda:]

SIGN. >> Z 1 IS ADOPTION OF THE MINUTES ON REGULAR MEANS OF

SEPTEMBER 6TH 2022. >> D 2 APPROVE SELECTIVE TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM DPRENSIVE GRANT THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION IN THE AMOUNT OF $14,856 POINT 90 WHICH REQUIRES A FINANCIAL PARTICIPATION FROM THE CITY IN THE RAM OF 3,053.ANY OTHER.

>> Z 3 APPROVE AN IMPEACHMENT TO A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT FOR FREESE AND

[01:30:06]

NICHOLS, INC. FOR PRELIMINARY DESIGN SERVICE FOR DELEON PLAZA EXMANSION.

>> DE4 AWARD AN ANNUAL SUPPLY CONTRACT TO COLORADO MATERIALITIES LTD OF NURSERY, TEXAS IN AMOUNT OF $138,000 AND REJECTING THE HOT MIX COLD-LAID ASPHALTIC CONCRETE PROPOSAL D 5 IS A RESOLUTION AWARDING AN ANNUAL SUPPLY CONTRACT FOR LICK WARD COLOR ROOM TO BRENNTAG

SOUTHWEST FOR $348,085. >> D 6 REJECTS THE COMPETITIVE SEALED PROPOSAL FOR ANNUAL

SUPPLY CONTRACT FOR LIMESTONE BASED TO COLORADO MATERIALS. >> D-SEVEN IS IS A RESOLUTION AWARDING A CONTRACT OF THIRD COAST SERVICES LLC FOR THE MOODY AND WATER SIGNAL POLE AND MAST ARM REPLACEMENT PROJECT FOR THEIR COMPETITIVE SEALED PROJECT IN AMOUNT OF $154,356.

>> MOVE FOR APPROVAL THROUGH ITEMS DE-1 THROUGH 7 ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

>> SECOND. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE, THOSE OPPOSE SAME SIGN, THANK

[2. Approve Renewal Agreement for 800 MHz Radio System Support and Mainten...]

YOU, E-2. >> ITEM E-2 IS A RESOLUTION AWARDING A -- AWARDING A RENEWAL AGREEMENT TO ON THE $800 MEGHNA HERTZ WITH MOTOROLA SOLUTION FOR $808,435.57.

>> COUNSEL THIS IS JUST SIMPLY A RENEWAL OF WHAT WE'VE DONE LAST MULTIPLE YEARS, IT IS WITH MOTOROLA RENEWED EVERY TWO YEARS THIS REPRESENTS A 2% INCREASE OVER OUR LAST-YEAR CONTRACT.

IT DOES ALLOW US TO STAY CURRENT WITH OUR LATEST VERSION, OUR SOFTWARE VERSION.

SOFTWARE UPGRADES OCCUR EVERY TWO YEARS AND OCCASIONALLY DEPENDING ON WHAT IT REQUIRES IS THAT SOFTWARE REQUIRES HARDWARE REFRESHES THEY WILL REFRESH ALL HARDWARE, WHICH IS REPLACED LAST

YEAR WILL BE REPLACED THE NEXT FOUR YEARS. >> THIS IS HGAC CORPORATE CONTRACT SO BASICALLY THIS IS JUST A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT THIS CONTRACT AND HOW IT IS BEING BROKEN DOWN SO THE COUNTY PLAYS ROUGHLY 46.9 -- NUMBER ENTREPRENEUR% OF THE CONTRACT.

OUR OUTSIDE AGENCIES ROUGHLY 3.6%. >> THAT IS MY --

>> THANK YOU MR. FOOTE. >> GO AHEAD MANY FOOTE. >> MR. DELAGARZA.

>> WHAT WAS THE DETERMINING FACTOR PERCENTAGE THE COUNTY PAID COMPARED TO CITY.

>> 30. >> WE BASE THAT NOT ONLY ON THE MAINTENANCE CONTRACT BUT ALSO ON THE RECURRING THAT THERE IS ONE STIPULATION -- I'M SORRY I DID NOT BRING THAT UP, BUT IN ADDITION TO THIS THE OUTSIDE AGENCIES ALSO PAY A RECURRING PER RADIO $25 PER RADIO PER MONTH SO WHAT THAT IS IS BASED ON THE NUMBER OF RADIOS ON SYSTEM.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE ALMOST 1600 RADIOS AND SO OUT OF THAT, THAT IS BASED UPON THE PERCENTAGE SO

WE HAVE THE LARGER PERCENTAGE RADIOS ON THE SYSTEM RIGHT NOW. >> THANK YOU.

>> AND THIS IS IN LINE WITH HOW WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH OTHER STUFF.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT -- E-2. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> I'LL SECOND. >> MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE ITEM E-2.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. MOTOROLA THE ONLY VENDOR THAT SUPPLIES?

BECAUSE -- >> THERE ARE OTHER VENDORS THAT SUPPLY A B 25 RADIO SYSTEM, HOWEVER OWRKS SYSTEM IS A MOTOROLA SYSTEM. IF WE WERE TO GO TO ANOTHER

SYSTEM, THAT MEANS TAKING EVERYTHING OUT AND REPLACING IT. >> JUST CURIOUS, WHAT DOES THAT

COST? >> I'M JUST GOING THROW, WELL, 8 MILLION, 8, 10 MILLION,

SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE. >> MOTOROLA IT IS. >> THEY HAVE US ON THE HOOK.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU, A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING ITEM E 2 SAY AYE, THOSE OPPOSE SAME SIGN.

[3. Approve cooperative purchasing contracts for various computers, softwa...]

MOTION CARRIES, ITEM E-3. >> E-SEE THERE A RESOLUTION APPROVING A COOPERATIVE PURCHASING CONTRACT FOR VARIOUS COMPUTER, SOFTWARE PERIPHERALS AND RELATED EQUIPMENT IN THE

[01:35:04]

AMOUNT OF $994,355. >> OKAY. AGAIN THIS IS OUR COOPERATIVE PURCHASES AND THIS IS JUST LISTING SOME OTHER COOPERATIVE PURCHASE THAT WE DO USE FREQUENTLY. TX DR TIPS AND IF BUY BOARD, GSA.

>> THE BREAKDOWN OF THE VORT OF OUR PURCHASES ARE THROUGH TEXAS DR OVER 80% OF THOSE ARE DONE THROUGH THOSE CONTRACTS AND ONE OF THE REASON WHY THIS NUMBER IS LOWER THAN IT WAS LAST YEAR IS ONE OF OUR MAJOR CONTRACTS WE FOUND THAT WHILE WE COULD GET IT THROUGH A COOPERATIVE CONTRACT PURCHASE IT DIRECTLY TO THE VENDOR. WE'RE REVIEWING EACH OF THOSE

PURCHASES AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS STILL THE BEST DEAL. >> THE MAJORITY AGAIN IS FOLLOW MAINTENANCE, SOFTWARE MAINTENANCE IS OUR LARGEST PURCHASES THAT WE MAY HAVE A NEW EQUIPMENT FOR 4%, REPLACEMENT EQUIPMENT 25%, NEW SOFTWARE IS 4%.

>> AND THE FAVORITE ONE IS THAT ROUGHLY WORKS OUT TO BE ABOUT 69% OF THE MAINTENANCE COST OR COST ON THOSE PURCHASES. AND AGAIN, I'LL REMIND COUNCIL THAT WE ARE A COST CENTER THAT A LOT OF THESE ARE PASSED ONTO THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS. AND THAT WAS IT.

>> IT IS AMAZING HOW MUCH IT COSTS. MAINTENANCE.

>> ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. FOOTE?

ANY MOTION? >> I MOVE WE ADOPT THIS ITEM. >> SECOND.

>> GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ADOPT ITEM E-3, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

HEARING NONE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE.

[4. Award the High Service Water Connection Project to J & R Contracti...]

>> THOSE OPPOSE SAME SIGNS MOTION AREAS. E-4.

>> E 4 IS A RESOLUTION AWARDING HIGH SERVICE WATER PROJ TO J & R CONTRACT SERVICE TO VICTORIA,

TEXAS OF THE LOW PROPOSAL AMOUNT OF $46023363. >> GOOD EVENING, I JUST WANT JAMES WON ON THAT ONE, HE'S BEAT ME TWICE. THIS IS A HIGH SERVICE WATER CONNECTION A CIP PROJECT THAT WIFE HAD IN THE WORKS OS FOR A WHILE PART OF THE 2018 WATER MASTER PLAN. IT IS A FAIRLY SMALL PROJECT. IT IS PART OF THE LARGER CONCEPT TO CONTINUE TO INTEGRATE THE NORTH PRESSURE PLAINS AND THE SOUTH PRESSURE PLAINS.

IT IS CONNECTING A 16-INCH WATER MAIN WITH A 24-INCH MAIN RIGHT THERE BETWEEN AND THE PICTURE IS PRETTY -- IT IS A PICTURE OF THE IGED'S AUTOMOTIVE IS TO THE NORTH AND THE SIGN PLACE IS TO SOUTH. IT IS GOING ACROSS ED'S PROPERTY AND A CONNECTED TO A 24 AND OVER TO THE 12 AND IT WILL PROVIDE WATER SERVICE FOR THE NORTH PRESSURE PLAIN IF THERE IS A MAIN BREAK AND, OF COURSE TO HELP DURING AN EMERGENCY SHOULD WE HAVE ANOTHER SUPER HARD, HARD FREEZE. PROPOSED CONTRACTORS, J AND R CONTRACTING SERVICES, PROJECTED COST $4 SEAY. START JANUARY COMPLETE DECEMBER OF 2023.

>> WE'RE GOING BACKWARDS. AND I DO WANT TO -- SAY OUR THANKS TO IT WAS VERY CORDIAL AND VERY SIMPLE. AND AND I'LL ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. OKAY, THE MEASUREMENTS AND THE PIPE, CAN YOU GO THROUGH THAT

SEQUENCE AGAIN? >> OKAY. THE 24-INCH DIE AM METER WATERLINE IS THERE ON THE LEFT AND ONE THAT GOES SURFACE WATER PLANT ALL THE WAY UP TO LUKE 463 UP TO THE WATER TOWER. WE'RE GOING TO TAP INTO THAT LINE WITH THE 16-INCH MAIN AND GO AROUND THROUGH MR. PROPERTY AND TIE INTO THE EXISTING 12-INCH MAIN WITH 12-INCH BY 16-INCH T. IT IS BASICALLY CONNECTING THAT 12-INCH WATERLINE ON MAIN STREET PART OF THE SOUTH PRESSURE PLAIN TO THE MAIN NORTH PRESSURE FEED IT IS GOING UP CROSS-COUNTRY.

>> SO IT IS GOING FROM 24 TO 16 TO 12? >> YES.

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>> AND THE WATER -- HOW DOES -- JUST ME ASKING, HOW DOES THE WATER FROM A BIGGER PIPE COME DOWN, DOWN, WE'RE JUST TAPPING INTO IT, BASICALLY TAPPING INTO YOUR WATERLINE INTO YOUR REFRIGERATOR, WE'RE JUST PULLING SOME OF THAT WATER OFF, BUT STILL, WE'RE GOING HAVE THE SAME

VOLUME. >> 16 BY 12. THEY DO MAKE THEM, THEY'RE GOING

TO BE, THEY ARE A CHALLENGE RIGHT NOW IN OUR MARKET. >> 16 BY 16 TEE REDUCERS.

>> THAT IS PROBABLY WHAT IT WILL BE, YOU'RE RIGHT. >> ALL RIGHT, ANYBODY --

>> I SAID I MOVE WE ADOPT E-4. >>. >> I'LL SECOND.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE ITEM E-4, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> THOSE OPPOSE, SAME SIGN.

[5. Award the Leary Lane Sidewalk Project (John Stockbauer Drive to Dean C...]

MOTION CARRIES, E-5. >> E-5 IS IS A RESOLUTION AWARDING THE SIDEWALK PROJECT FROM JOHN STOCK BARROW DRIVE TO STAFF CONCRETE CONSTRUCTION OF VICTORIA, TEXAS IN PROPOSED

AMOUNT OF $377,465. >> LONG TIME COMING, THANK YOU ALL FOR EUROPEANS.

PROJECT LOCATION IS FROM DEAN COOK TO STOCK POWER THIS WILL COMPLETE THE SIDEWALK ALONG LARRY LANE AND CONNECT TO SCHOOLS I WANT TO SHOW PICTURES OF IT, AS YOU CAN SEE THERE WERE DEEP DITCHES AS PART OF THE ISSUE OF IT AND ENCLOSING SOME OF THESE WHERE WE CAN'T HAVE THE ROOM PUT THE SIDEWALK IN, THERE IS STILL A DITCH, BUT WHAT WE'VE DONE IS IN ORDER TO SAVE MONEY GET THAT EASEMENT AND PUT IT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE DITCH THAT IS WHY THE COST IS WHAT IT CAME

DOWN TO AND WE WERE ABLE TO SPEAK. >> PROJECT DETAILS WE HAD THREE PROPOSALS THAT WERE SUBMITTED. STAFF CONCRETE FOR $377,465. LOVE PAVING AT 378550 AND J & R

CONTRACTING 840. >> OUR BUDGETED COST ON THIS PROJECT IS 625.

WE'RE SCHEDULEDDED TO START IN NOVEMBER AND THEN COMPLETE IN JUNE.

AND WE'RE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL FOR STAFF CONCRETE THAT WILL TELL YOU WE'RE REALLY GOOD SET OF PLANS, A LOT OF INTEREST IN THE PROJECT IN BOTH DAVILA AND STAFF ARE GREAT CONTRACTORS

WORKED WITH BOTH OF THEM. >> WHERE IS STAFF FROM. >> HERE IN VICTORIA, AND THEY'VE DONE A LOT, A LOT OF CONCRETE WORK IN VICTORIA IT IS A LONG TIME COME, I'M EXCITED TO SEE

THIS. >> MS. SCOTT WOULD YOU PLEASE MAKE A MOTION.

>> YES, I MOVE WE APPROVE ITEM E-5 TO PAVE A SIDEWALK. >> SECONDED.

>> THANK YOU, MS. SCOTT FOR THE MOTION, AND THANK YOU FOR JUROR DETERMINATION TO GET US TO

THIS POINT, WE APPRECIATE IT. >> TANKLEWOOD IS NEXT. >> WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A LOOK.

>> GOOD JOB, GOOD JOB. >> ALL RIGHT, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR

OF E-5. >> AYE. >> THOSE OPPOSE SAME SIGN MOTION

[1. Amend the City's Fund Balance Policy. Wesley Janecek, Assistant Direct...]

CARRIES ONTO CITY MANAGER'S REPORT AND ONE THIS EVENING, AND GOING TO LEAD US THROUGH IT.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL, GOING TO DO A SHORT PRESENT 8 ON AN AMENDMENT TO THIS IS PERTAINING THE CALCULATION OF THE RESERVE REQUIREMENT FOR OUR HOTEL TAX FUNDS, JUST A QUICK BACKGROUND CREATED A STABILIZATION FUND AND ADDED RESERVE REQUIREMENTS FOR INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS, THIS MONTH WE'RE JUST, AGAIN, DOING A REPORT ON AMENDMENT TO THE HOT

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FUND POLICY AND BRING THIS ITEM BACK NEXT MONTH FOR OFFICIAL APPROVAL.

>> SO THE FIRST YOU SEE HERE IS CONTAINED WITHIN PAGE THREE OF THE FUND BALANCE POLICY, EVERYTHING IN BLACK TEXT IS WHAT IS CURRENTLY WITHIN THE POLICY WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE SEEN HERE SO THAT IT WOULD COMMUNICATE WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO DO WITH THIS CHANGE. SO AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THE FIRST LINE, WE'RE MAINTAINING THE RESERVE FUND WITHIN THE MOTEL TAX FUND ITSELF REMOVING CONVENTION AND VISITOR'S BUREAU.

AND ALSO REMOVING THE TRANSFERS FROM THE CALCULATION. AND THE WORDING THAT IS BEING ADDED IS THE RESERVE ACCOUNTS FOR THE EXPENDITURE AND MAIN STREET PROGRAM.

AND CVB FUNDS SINCE THESE ARE FUNDED BY THE HOTEL OCCUPIES TAXES.

PREVIOUSLY THE MAIN STREET PROGRAM WAS CONTAINED WITHIN THE MOTEL TAX FUND, BUT WAS MOVED INTO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND THAT IS WHY WE'RE HAVING TO ADD WORDING FROM IT.

ALSO CAN WE STEP BACK REAL QUICK AND JUST A MINOR THING IS IT REALLY CALLED THE MOTEL TAX FUND

OR MOTEL OCCUPIES TAX FUND. >>. SHOULD THAT CHANGE.

>>. >> THAT IS CURRENTLY IN THE POLICY.

>> MAKE IT DIDN'T. >> WHILE WE'RE HERE, SO THE PART IN YELLOW, THE RESERVE WILL ALSO ACCOUNT FOR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THE 25% RESERVE INCLUDES THESE, THESE RIGHT.

>> COUNCIL, BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS RIGHT NOW YOU'VE GOT, YOUR ACCOUNTING FOR THE TRANSFER AND ONE FUND AND 25% THERE, WHILE 25% RESERVES SO YOU HAVE OVER COMPENSATE YOURSELF ON RESERVING EXTRA FUNDS. I THINK WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS A DEGREE WHERE WE WANT TO BE MORE FLEXIBLE OR TO USE MORE MONEY FOR THE PROGRAMS, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE.

>> MAY RECALL I ALLUDED TO THE FACT THAT THIS CHANGE WAS COMING OFF OF THIS POLICY.

>> UNDER THE EXISTING POLICY IF WE WERE JUST TO LOOK AT TOTAL EXPENDITURES IN EACH ONE OF THESE FUNDS, IT WOULD BE $3.6 MILLION, JUST UNDER 3.7 AND THAT INCLUDES TRANSFERS TO HOTEL TO MOTEL FUND TO CVB AS WELL AS THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND OF 1.1 MILLION.

SO THAT THREE-MONTH REQUIREMENT COMES OUT TO 921,000. UNDER THE PROPOSED POLICY IF WE REMOVE THOSE TRANSFERS OUT TO THE CALCULATION, OUR TOTAL EXPENDITURES WOULD BE JUST UNDER $2.6 AND LOWER THAT REQUIREMENT TO 644,000. SO THIS CALCULATION LOOKS AT IT AS IF ALL THE DEPARTMENTS ARE WITHIN ONE FUND AND WE DIDN'T HAVE ALL THE TRANSFERS OUT SO

I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. >> DOES THIS AFFECT HOW WE ACCOUNT FOR THE HOT FUND DISTRIBUTION DOES IT AFFECT IT IN ANY WAY, WE'RE DOING IT NOT

IN AREARS. >> IT WILL AFFECT MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION.

IT WILL GIVE YOU A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT THAT WAY.

YOU'RE REDUCING OUR RESERVE YOU'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE CLOSE TO YOUR RECURRENT EXPENSES THAT IS THE PRIMARY TEST WE'RE GOING TO MEET FIRST AND RIGHT NOW THAT IS REALLY TIGHT RIGHT NOW, THE RESERVE IS THE SECONDARY TEST I DO ALL THE TIME TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE RESERVE HAVE BUT, I GUESS, THE CHANGE IN THIS RESERVE DOESN'T -- HOW STARTED SAVING MONEY SO WE CAN BE

GUARANTEEING THAT THAT MONEY WOULD BE THERE. >> EXTRA RESERVE, THAT IS IN A WAY IT IS GOING TO -- THAT IS PART OF THE TOTAL RESERVE, TOO SO -- THE RESERVE AND HOTEL WILL STAY THE SAME, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THESE OTHER RESERVE, NECESSARILY THESE OTHER FUNDS NOW. IS THAT MAKING SENSE TO YOU? YOU CAN SET UP THE TOTAL RESERVE IN THE HOTEL NOT ONE FUND EXISTED. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THESE OTHER RESERVES AT A HIGHER LEVEL THAN OTHER FUNDS BECAUSE IT IS ALREADY COVERED OVER HEARINGS

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YOUR INDIVIDUAL, RESERVE WITH OUTSIDE AGENCY THEY SHOULD STAY THE SAME THE ONLY THING WE'VE DONE IS REDUCE DUESING THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS OUTSIDE THE HOTEL OR MOTEL FUND.

>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE WAY WE'RE DISTRIBUTING OR COLLECTING BECAUSE WE'RE BASING IT ON PREVIOUS YEARS COLLECTIONS, WE KNOW THAT WE RECEIVED THAT MONEY WHEREAS WE WERE GOING BY THE CURRENT YEAR THAT WE'D BE GETTING MONEY IN AND SOMETIMES

WE COME UP SHORT. >> STILL GOOD ON THAT. LISTEN, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE POINT I STILL HAVE THE RESERVE FOR THE OUTSIDE AGENCY IN CASE THINGS HAPPEN.

THAT IS BEING TAKEN CARE OF. >> THE $135,000 IS NOT IN IS THE 644,000 RESERVE?

THAT MONEY IS SET ASIDE. OKAY. >> ALL RIGHT.

>> AS WESLEY MENTIONED WE'LL BRING THIS BACK UP AS AN ACTION ITEM, IF THERE ARE NO, IS SHOES, WE'LL PROBABLY JUST PUT IT ON CON70 THERE ARE NO MAJOR QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

>> WE CAN EXPAND AND MAKE HOW IT FLOW A LITTLE BETTER, MAKE SURE I'M COMFORTABLE WHEN POSITIVE ABOUT THE RESERVE AND OUTSIDE AGENCY AND ALL THAT AND MAKE SURE NEXT PRESENT 8, YOU SEE

MORE CLEAR. >> THERE WAS A WORK SHEET INCLUDED IN THE PACKET IF YOU

THE RESERVE FOR ALLOCATION GOES UP UNDER THIS NEW CHANGE. >> OKAY.

ALL RIGHT, I'M FINE BRINGING IT FORWARD. I THINK I UNDERSTAND IT.

SO, ALL RIGHT. >> RESERVE THE RIGHT TO ASK THAT.

BUT THERE WILL BE NO EXECUTIVE SESSION THIS EVENING. >> OH, THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.