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[A. CALL TO ORDER]

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. >> GOOD EVENING, WELCOME TO VICTORIA CITY COUNCIL.

MS. HILBRICH PLEASE CALL ROLL.

PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGES FOLLOWED BY A MOMENT OF SILENCE. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION,

UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE, UNDER GOD, ONE, INDIVISIBLE.

[1. Announcements/Reminders:]

ANNOUNCEMENTS AND REMINDERS. BUT ON THE AGENDA, BUT WE DO HAVE TWO MR. FERRELL WANTED ME TO ANNOUNCE TEXAS A&M WON THEIR BASEBALL GAME TODAY. SO THEY WILL FACE OKLAHOMA TOMORROW. WE BEAT THEM TWICE SO WE CAN GET INTO THE FINALS.

THANK YOU MR. FERRELL. AND THEN WE HAVE A VIDEO WE'D LIKE TO PLAY JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION ONLY FROM THE COUNTY JUDGE DEALING WITH THE FIREWORKS COMING UP WITH THE BURN BAN THAT

WE HAVE IN EFFECT. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, HONOR MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, BEN ZELLER HERE, I'M NOT ABLE TO BE THERE IN PERSON THIS AFTERNOON BUT JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON SOME STEPS THAT I AND WE TOOK EARLIER TODAY RELATED TO THE DROUGHT, THE UPCOMING INDEPENDENCE DAY HOLIDAY, FIREWORKS SALES AND THESE TYPES OF THINGS.

IN CONSULT 8 WITH RICK MCBRAAEER, OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR AND FIRE MARSHAL RICHARD SCA CITYIO AND HAVING SPOKEN WITH THE CITY FIRE MARSHAL CHIEF FOX, FIRE CHIEF FOX, THE SHERIFF AND OTHER INDIVIDUALS, THERE WAS STRONG CONSENSUS THAT STEPS NEEDED TO BE TAKEN TO CURTAIL THE USE OF FIREWORKS WITH US BEING IN A SERIOUS, SERIOUS DROUGHT ENVIRONMENT. LIKE Y'ALL ARE AWARE OF THE KBDI INDEX IS AT NEARLY 700 TODAY.

IT ONLY GOES UP TO 800. WE'VE SEEN FOUR FIRES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY IN THE PAST WEEK.

LOOKING AT THE 10-DAY FORECAST, WE'RE SEEING TRIPLE DIGIT TEMPERATURES AND REALLY NO RAIN IN SIGHT. A SLIGHT POSSIBILITY EARLY NEXT WEEK, BUT NOTHING THAT IS REALLY GOING TO CHANGE OUR DROUGHT CONDITIONS. AS THINGS WERE, FIREWORK STANDS WERE SET TO BEGIN SELLING ON FRIDAY WITHOUT A DISASTER DECLARATION IN PLACE, COMMISSIONER SUPPORT REALLY DOESN'T HAVE ANY AUTHORITY TO CURTAIL THAT.

AND EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY UNDER THIS DECLARATION IT WILL PREVENT THE SALE OF FIREWORKS ANYWHERE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AND PREVENT THE USE OF FIREWORKS OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS.

OBVIOUSLY CITY ORDINANCES ALREADY PROHIBIT THE USE OF INDIVIDUALS USING FIREWORKS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS, THIS WILL APPLY OUT IN THE COUNTY WHERE CONDITIONS ARE ESPECIALLY DANGEROUS. IT HAS REALLY BEEN OUR CONCERN THAT WE COULD BE SEEING MULTIPLE FIRES AT THE SAME TIME. THE CONCEPT OF FIRE OUT IN BLOOMINGTON AND ONE IN NURSERY IS NOT A MERE POSSIBILITY, IT IS A LIKELIHOOD IF PEOPLE ARE SHOOTING OFF FIREWORKS AND THIS IS A STEP WE THINK IS NECESSARY. WE I KNOW THERE IS A FIREWORKS SHOW PLANNED AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER THAT THE CITY IS HOSTING. THIS EFFORT DOES NOT IMPACT THAT.

THAT OBVIOUSLY IS A PROFESSIONALLY RUN, PROFESSIONALLY RUN SHOW WITH TRAINED PYROTECHNICS THIS WOULD NOT IMPACT THAT BUT MY ORDER WENT INTO PLACE EARLIER TODAY.

THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE WILL BE ANSWERING QUESTIONS RELATED TO THIS.

I THINK WE'LL HAVE A PRESENCE THERE EITHER RICK MCBRAAEER ORICH CASTILLO AT THE MEETING NOW TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTION, BUT I APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S UNDERSTANDING ON THIS

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AND APPRECIATE THE MAYOR AND THE CITY MANAGER'S TIME AS WE TALK THROUGH THESE ISSUES AND

APPRECIATE WHAT Y'ALL DO, TAKE CARE AND GOD BLESS. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, JUDGE, ANY OF YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON IT? OKAY, WE'LL GO INTO PUBLIC AND

EMPLOYEE RECOGNITIONS. >> AWESOME, BUT THANKS FOR BEING HERE, THOUGH.

WE DO HAVE A FEW EMPLOYEE RELATED RECOGNITIONS THIS EVENING, TO KICK IT OFF I'M

[a. Recognition of the Child Passenger Safety Technicians. Darrek Ferrell,...]

GOING TO ASK DAR REC FERRELL TO COME UP AND HOPEFULLY HE FOCUSES ON WORK-RELATED THINGS AND NOT

BASEBALL. >>> IT IS NOT MY FAULT THEY SCHEDULE GAMES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY. I DO WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE AND THANK THE FOLKS WHO PARTICIPATED IN OUR CHILD SAFETY SEAT INSPECTION PROGRAM. AND I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO ASK TIFFANY TODA TO JOIN ME AND THANK TIFFANY FOR HER THROIP THE PROGRAM AND YOU, CITY COUNCIL FOR YOUR CREATION OF THAT PROGRAM AND FUNDING THAT PROGRAM WITH THE REGISTRATION FEES.

YOU'LL LEARN MORE ABOUT THAT TONIGHT IN THE CITY MANAGER'S REPORT ABOUT HOW THAT PROGRAM HAS GONE OVER THE LAST YEAR. THIS YEAR WE'VE GONE FROM TWO CHILD SAFETY SEAT INSPECTORS ON STAFF TO NOW 13 SAFETY SEAT INSPECTOR. I'M GOING TO READ NAMES AND ASK TIFFANY TO SAY A FEW WORDS. FROM THE MUNICIPAL COURT, ELIZABETH MONTEZ AND TIFFANY TODA, FIRE MARSHAL KEVIN LAMPRICK, AND MARIA PEREZ, I KNOW THEY WERE AT A FIRE A

MOMENT AGO. >>> IF YOU ARE HERE, PLEASE STAND UPPLEASE STAND UP.

VICTORIA POLICE DEPARTMENT, NEAT NATE ARNOLD, BRIAN, LEIF PETER, JOHN TURNER AND SUPPLEMENT OUR TWO EXISTING STAFF MEMBERS SERGEANT BERNARD AND SERGEANT ALLEN.

THANK YOU, AND IF THERE IS ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD. [APPLAUSE]

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I'LL BE EXCITED LATER TODAY TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THAT PROGRAM AS WELL AS THE OTHER PORTION OF THAT WHICH IS THE GRANT PROGRAM.

BUT I'M JUST THANKFUL WE WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO CITY STAFF, AND BE ABLE TO HELP ENSURE THAT WE HAVE CHILDREN PROPERLY RESTRAINED IN THE CITY OF VICTORIA, SO SO MUCH

THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> I'M GOING TO ASK DAR REC TO STAY UP HERE FOR A MOMENT, THIS ISN'T ON THE AGENDA, IT IS JUST BECAUSE HE'S A GREAT, HUMBLE GUY. BUT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO HE EARNED HIS CE DENIAL MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION THIS IS THE HIGHEST CREDENTIAL THAT SOMEBODY IN OUR PROFESSION CAN ACHIEVE. IT IS THROUGH A COMBINATION OF PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE, EDUCATION, ET CETERA, SOME OF YOU MAY RECALL THAT PRIOR TO JOINING US AS AN ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER HE SERVED AS CITY MANAGER FOR COMMERCE, TEXAS HE WORKED IN MCKINNEY AND A PLACE WE ALL LOVE, MOUNT VERNON, TEXAS. AND SO HE CAME WITH A LOT OF GREAT EXPERIENCE, SO WE'RE FORTUNATE AND BLESSED TO HAVE HIM AS PART OF THE TEAM.

AND I WANT TO THANK HIM FOR THIS PUBLIC RECOGNITION. NOW THAT MAKES TWO FOLKS IN YOUR CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE THAT HAVE THIS DESSIG NATION AND THAT IS A BIG DEAL AND I HOPE THIS SERVES AS PEER PRESSURE FOR MIKE SO HE CAN START THAT PROCESS TO JOIN THE TEAM AND COMPLETE THE TRIFECTA. COMPLETE HELP ME CONGRATULATE DARREK FOR HIS ACHIEVEMENT.

>> GREAT JOB, MR. FERRELL. LOVE Y'ALL'S DEDICATION AND CONTINUING EDUCATION.

SO THANK YOU. >> YES. >> THANK YOU.

>> IT IS A GREAT PROFESSION, I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE. AND I'M HAPPY TO HELP JESUS

PRESSURE MIKE. >> YEAH, NO PRESSURE. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

[b. Recognition of the Communications and Public Affairs Team for Texas As...]

NEXT RECOGNITION, I WANT TO RECOGNIZE OUR AMAZING COMMUNICATION PUBLIC AFFAIRS TEAM MANY OF YOU KNOW THAT ONE OF MY FIRST, I GUESS ACTIONS DURING MY FIRST YEAR AS YOUR CITY MANAGER WAS RESTRUCTURE THE WAY OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT HAD BEEN STRUCTURED HISTORICALLY. THE INTENT BEHIND THE RESTRUCTURE WAS TO DEDICATE MORE RESOURCES TO OUR EFFORTS TO COMMUNICATE WHAT IS GOING ON TO THE PUBLIC, IMPROVE OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PRESENCE, IMPROVE OUR SOPHISTICATION, IMPROVE OUR TECHNOLOGY AS HOW IT RELATES TO HOW WE GET INFORMATION OUT. I'M EXTREMELY EXCITED AND PROUD TO CONVEY TO YOU THAT NOW WE HAVE SOME NICE AWARDS HERE TO BACK UP SOME OF THAT GREAT WORK THAT THIS TEAM HAS DONE AND CONTINUES TO DO. AND I'M GOING TO MENTION THEIR NAMES AND THEY MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO STAND UP OR MAY NOT WANT TO, BUT THE BULK OF THE TEAM IS IN THE ROOM.

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SHANE BLUKER, HE'S A BIG PART OF THE GEORGE PARTIEDDA, A. J. GONZALEZ, OF COURSE, SAM, EVERYBODY KNOWS SAM. AND ASHLEY WHO IS STILL PRIORITIZING MOTHERHOOD AND ISN'T HERE WITH US TONIGHT. BUT I DO WANT TO MEMBERCHY THANK THE TEAM FOR THEIR AWESOME WORK.

THEIR DEDICATION TO JUST IMPROVING THE WAY THAT WE COMMUNICATE TO THE PUBLIC.

THESE TWO SPECIFIC AWARDS ARE TWO VIDEOS THAT I HOPE EVERYBODY IS AM FAR WITH, AND VENTURES THAT WERE REALLY A LABOR OF LOVE, ONE OF THE AWARDS IS IN THE CATEGORY OF SPECIAL OR ONE-TIME PROGRAM. AND THIS WAS THE FOR THE LIVE-STREAM PRODUCTION OF PARADE OF LIGHTS IN 2021. NOW I KNOW THAT SOME OF THE TRAFFIC AND THE WEATHER, YOU KNOW, WASN'T SUPER SMOOTH THAT EVENING, BUT THE TECH NEOH KNOW LOGICAL ASPECT WAS OFF THE CHART. I DON'T THINK PEOPLE APPRECIATE THE WORK OUR ITT TEAM, JAMES DESERVES A LOT OF CUED ZOES FOR THIS, AND THE WORK THEY DID TO ENSURE THERE WAS INTERNET, THAT THERE WAS INTERNET THROUGHOUT THE PARK TO ALLOW FOR THAT LIVE STREAM TO EVEN TAKE PLACE.

AND SO THERE WAS A LOT OF WORK AND A LOT OF PLANNING THAT WENT INTO THAT IN AN EFFORT TO TRY TO SO AS MANY PEOPLE ENJOY, YOU KNOW, WHAT TURNED TOUT BE JUST A MAKESHIFT ATTEMPT AT CONTINUING A TRADITION THAT WE'VE HAD FOR SUCH A LONG TIME. AND OBVIOUSLY NOBODY COULD HAVE PREDICTED THE PANDEMIC, BUT THAT WAS A LABOR OF LOVE AND SO, I'M EXCITED THAT EVERYBODY THROUGHOUT THE STATE HAS RECOGNIZED THAT. THESE COME FROM THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF MUNICIPAL OFFICER, THEY HAD AN ANNUAL CONFERENCE LAST WEEK AND AJ WAS THE SOLE REPRESENTATIVE OF OUR TEAM AT THAT CONFERENCE. AND I'M SURE HE RECEIVED A LOT OF LOVE. BUT THAT WAS OF THE VIDEO AND ONE OF THE EFFORTS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE FELT EXTREMELY PROUD OF. THE SECOND AWARD IS FOR BEST ONE-TIME -- I'M SORRY, -- YES, ALSO IN THE VIDEO PRODUCTION CATEGORY AND THIS WAS FOR THE SWEARING IN OF DJ DANIEL THIS WENT EXTREMELY VIRAL, DJ DANIEL, A YOUNG BOY FIGHTING CANCER SWORN IN AND A LOT OF EFFORT THAT WENT INTO IN WOORNTION WITE COUNTY, BUT OUR TEAM SPEARHEADED THE EFFORT TO PUT THAT VIDEO TOGETHER. I BELIEVE THAT WAS FIRST VIDEO THAT AJ CONTRIBUTED TO SHORTLY AFTER HE BEGAN WITH US, AND SO WE'RE BLESSED TO HAVE HIM ON THE TEAM AND HIS SKILL SET AND NOW HIS VIDEO HE HELP EDIT AND PUT TOGETHER HAS RECEIVED AN AWARD.

I WOULD LIKE EVERYONE TO GIVE THEM A BIG ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR THEIR EFFORTS.

[APPLAUSE] >> CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU.

>> Y'ALL REALLY HAVE MADE A BIG DIFFERENCE SO VERY PROFESSIONAL I REALLY ENJOY THE CITY COUNCIL SHORTS WERE THEY TAKE OUT ALL THE FLUFF AND GIVE YOU THE FACTS REAL QUICK AND ADD A LIEUTENANT LITTLE HUMOR TO IT. SO THANK YOU THANK YOU. IF THAT IS IT FOR PUBLIC AND EMPLOYEE RECOGNITIONS JURISPRUDENCE INTO CEM E ITEMS FROM COUNCIL.

ANYONE? NO. ALL RIGHT, GOOD TO SEE ALL

[4. Citizen Communication:]

Y'ALL. AND WE'LL GO INTO CITIZENS COMMUNICATION, REMINDER THAT EVERYBODY THAT COMES UP TO SPEAK JUST PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME AND THREE MINUTES AT THE PODIUM AND THERE IS A CLOCK UP THERE IF YOU'RE WONDERING WHERE YOU ARE. AND MICHAEL VON DEROF.

A GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER AND CITY MAYOR, WE HAVE -- I JUST WANTED TO THANK THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR DONATING 12 BIKES TO PEOPLE AT CHRIST'S KITCHEN.

THEY HAD A RODEO. AND I WANT TO THANK WAL-MART. THEY GAVE THEM A $FAVOR00 GRANT TO GIVE THEM BICYCLE BICYCLES AND HELMETS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

ALSO, ANIMAL CONTROL, THEIR HOURS ARE EXTENDED ON SOME DAYS FOR ADOPTIONS TO 7:00 P.M., AND WE ALSO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE NOT USING A LEASH AND RUNNING THEIR DOGS LOOSE.

AND WE HAD A CASE WHERE SOMEONE HAD A LEASHED DOG AND ANOTHER PERSON HAD A DOG OFF A LEASH AND IT ATTACKED THE DOG THAT WAS ON A LEASH. AND HE WENT AND GOT A GUN AND SHOT IT THREE TO FOUR TIMES AND KILLED THAT PERSON'S DOG. AND, YOU KNOW, THE POLICE AND THE D.A., THEY'RE GOING HAVE TO DECIDE IF THAT IS ANIMAL ABUSE OR SELF-DEFENSE.

I DON'T WANT TO SAY MUCH, BECAUSE IT WILL TAINT THE CASE, BUT I DO GOT A NEWSPAPER ARTICLE ON IT AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ANIMAL CONTROL DO MORE DANGEROUS DOG CASES.

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I DON'T THINK THEY DO ENOUGH, AND I'M NOT SAYING THEY HAVE TO BE EUTHANIZED, YOU KNOW, JUST GET $100,000 POLICY AND MISSLE THEM UP. PEOPLE ARE JUST GOING GOING TO RUN THEIR DOGS LOOSE, THEY JUST NEED TO GET A $100,000 POLICY, IF THAT DOG HAD $100,000 POLL CIRCUMSTANCE IT COULD HAVE PAID FOR THE DOG' FUNERAL AND THAT MONEY COULD HAVE BEEN PAID TO FOR THAT PERSON TO BUY ANOTHER DOG THIS IS A CONTINUING PROBLEM IN VICTORIA.

IN OCTOBER SOME PIT BULLS ATTACKED SOME POLICE OFFICERS, YOU KNOW, AND THE POLICE OFFICERS HAD TO SHOOT. AND WHEN YOU'RE SHOOTING A DOG AND SOMEONE HAS THEIR DOG ON A LEASH, YOU KNOW, THOSE BULLETS COULD RICOCHET AND HURT THAT PERSON.

A DOG DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BITE SOMEONE FOR IT TO BE A DANGEROUS DOG CASE, YOU KNOW.

JUST BITE ANOTHER DOG OR THREATEN SOMEONE. AND I WOULD JUST LIKE MORE CASES. I DON'T SEE HARDLY ANY, BUT ANIMAL CONTROL HAS BROUGHT MORE DANGEROUS DOG CASES TO THE COURT AND I DO PATIENT AND I DID LEAVE AN TOORL THE MUNICIPAL COURT JUDGE ABOUT THAT IF YOU EVER FILE A SPIN'S COMPLAINT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO WITH IT THE MUNICIPAL COURT AND COUNTY COURT, THE JP IN THAT REGION, BECAUSE IF YOU DO WITH IT THE MUNICIPAL COURT &, ANIMAL CONTROL COULD JUST TRANSFER IT TO ANOTHER COURT.

AND THE MUNICIPAL COURT WOULD BE EITHER JURISDICTION. BUT THANKS AND HAVE A GOOD DAY,

APPRECIATE IT. >> APPRECIATE IT. >> SAM REIN KE.

>> FIRST OF ALL I WOULD LIKE TO THANK Y'ALL FORGIVING ME AN OPPORTUNITY VISIT WITH YOU FOR JUST A FEW MINUTES. MY NAME IS STAN REINKE. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF VICTORIA COUNTY FOR THE LAST 24 YEARS AND I'M SPEAKING TO Y'ALL THIS AFTERNOON TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM WITH INAPPROPRIATE PORNOGRAPHIC LITTLE BIT CHILDREN IN THE VICTORIA PUBLIC LIBRARY.

LITERATURE HAS BEEN MADE AVAILABLE TO KIDS FROM 5 TO 17. MIGHT THINK 17 YEARS OLDS ARE NOT CHILDREN, BUT THEY ARE. AND MANY OF YOUR CONSTITUENT PARENTS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS TYPE OF LITERATURE BEING MADE AVAILABLE TO YOUNG PEOPLE IN THE VICTORIA PUBLIC LIBRARY.

I WANT TO JUST HIT SOME BULLET POINTS WITH YOU RIGHT QUICKLY SO YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THE SERIOUSNESS OF THE SITUATION FIRST OF ALL YOU NEED TO RECOGNIZE THAT PORNOGRAPHY IS AN ADDICTION JUST LIKE DRUGS, ALCOHOL, NICOTINE. SECONDLY, POIN HUB, I DON'T RECOMMEND YOU VISIT THAT SITE ON-LINENESS BUT POINHUB IS AN ON-LINE PORNOGRAPHIC SITE AND 1917 IT HAD 42 BILLION HITS. THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION WHICH I DON'T GIVE A LOT OF CREEDANCE TO, BY THE WAY, W.H.O. HAS SAID THEY ADDED COMPULSIVE SEXUAL BEHAVIOR, ONE RESULT OF THAT IS LOOKING AT TOO MUCH PORNOGRAPHY AS A MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEM OR DISORDER IN 2018.

THIRDLY, EXPERTS, THAT IS MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS, PSYCHIATRIST, PSYCHOLOGISTS HAVE SAID THAT THE SAME BRAIN ACTIVITY THAT IS SHOWN IN ALCOHOLICS AND DRUG ADDICTS IS ALSO REFLECTIVE IN THOSE WHO FREQUENTLY USE POINGRAPHY. -- PORNOGRAPHY.

FOURTHLY, 2017 STUDY OF MALES WHO USE PORNOGRAPHY ON A RELATIVELY FREQUENT BASIS FOUND CHANGES IN THE PARTICIPANT'S BRAINS THAT WERE CONSISTENT WITH OTHER ADDICTIONS.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE Y'ALL TO BECOME AWARE OF THE PROBLEMS IN THE LIBRARY, DEPEND UPON YOUR PUBLIC LIBRARY BOARD WHOM YOU HAVE APPOINTED FIVE MEMBERS TO. AND DIG INTO THIS AND FIND OUT WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE LIBRARY. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU MR. REINKE. >> MS. GABE POTTIC. >> HI, MY NAME IS GABE POTTIC,

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THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND YOUR TIME. THE LAST FEW WEEKS I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO THE FRIENDS OF IF VICTORIA PUBLIC LIBRARY BOOK SELL.

AND I HAVE 11 GRANDCHILDREN. SO I WAS IN THE JUVENILE SECTION AND I FOUND SOME WONDERFUL BOOKS THIS IS A STORY ABOUT TRACY HALL, HE'S THE MAN WHO DISCOVERED SYNTHETIC DIAMONDS.

THIS IS ABOUT MARTIN LUTHER KING AND ANNE FRANK. ANOTHER BOOK ABOUT ALAN BEAN, THEASNAUT WHO PAINTED THE MOON. THEY'RE ALL BUYGRAPHYS. THE MIDNIGHT TEACHER -- BIOGRAPHIES, SHE TAUGHT LIVE SLAVES TO READ. I DIDN'T KNOW THIS ONE, LIGHTER THAN AIR, SOPHIE BLANCHARD THE FIRST WOMAN PILOT. SHE PILOTED A HOT AIR BALLOON IN FRANCE. AND THEN THERE WAS ONE ON MADAM MARIE CURRIE, YOGI BERRA AND ERVIN BERLIN. I WAS EXCITED TO GET THESE BOOKS, BUT WHEN I LOOKED AT THE DATES 20 SEEN, 2018, 2019 WHEN THESE WERE BROUGHT INTO THE LIBRARY AND THE COST OF THESE BOOKS WHICH WERE AT LEAST, WELL, LET'S SAY $20 GIVE OR TAKE A FEW DAYS ON EACH SIDE, I HAVE EIGHT BOOKS HERE AT $20 APIECE THAT IS $160. I GOT THESE EIGHT BOOKS FOR $8.

THESE ARE TIMELESS BOOKS, INFORMATIONAL BOOKS, EDUCATIONAL BOOKS.

I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHY THEY WERE TAKEN OUT OF THE LIBRARY.

BECAUSE I KNOW ANOTHER BOOK IS GOING BE PURCHASED ON MARIE CURRIE AND MARTIN LUTHER KING, AND ANNE FRANK SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR PROTECTING YOUR CHILDREN WITH OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND KEEPING INAPPROPRIATE BOOKS OUT.

BUT I WOULD ALSO APPRECIATE THAT YOU HELP OUR LIBRARY SPEND OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS WISELY, BECAUSE THESE BOOKS ARE TIMELESS. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

I APPRECIATE YOU AND YOUR CONSIDERATION OF HELPING OUR LIBRARY SPEND OUR TAXPAYER MONEY

WISELY. >> THANK YOU. MS. POTTIC.

AND KATIE POTTIC. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MY NAME IS KATIE POTTIC.

AND I'M HERE TO ADDRESS THE BOOKS IN OUR LINE BRAAERY. TODAY I WANT TO GIVE YOU A YOUNG MOTHER'S PERSPECTIVE. I HAVE LOVE BRINGING MY FOUR YOUNG KIDS TO THE LINE BRAAE, FOR EIGHT YEARS NOW, MY LINE BRAAERY IS WHERE THEY FELL IN LOVE WITH PICTURE BOOKS AND BECAME FASCINATED WITH DINOSAURS AND LEARNED HOW TO WRITE RESEARCH PAPERS AND HAS BEEN PIVOTAL FOR THEIR EDUCATION AND HOLDS A DEER, DEAR PLACE IN MY HEART.

BUT A SOMETHING HAS CHANGED OVER THE LAST YEAR. WHILE TAKING MY KIDS TO COLLECT BOOKS I GANG SEEING MORE AND MORE PICTURE BOOKS MORE INAPPROPRIATE FOR CHILDREN.

BOOKS THAT WILL CONFUSE THEM ABOUT THEIR GOD-GIVEN GENTLER, SOMETHING MY KIDS WOULD NEVER QUESTION OTHERWISE. BOOKS WITH SEXUAL SUBJECT MATTER, BOOKS THAT ARE TEACHING OUR CHILDREN NEW IDEOLOGY AS TRUTH, NOT TIME-TESTED SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY AS TRUTH.

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT ONE OF MY DAUGHTERS. SHE IS QUITE LITERALLY THE BRAVEST AND MOST DETERMINED PERSON I KNOW. IF HER OLDER BROTHER CLIMBS THE DUALEST STRUCTURES AT THE PLAYGROUND, SHE'S MIND HIM DOING IT IN HALF THE TIME AND BEEN DOING THAT SINCE SHE WAS A TODDLER. SHE LOVES NINJAS, KNIGHTS, STAR WARS, SPORTS AND DIRT BIKES. SHE REFUSES TO WEAR DRESSES AND SHE HATES IT WHEN HER OLDER BROTHER TEASINGLY CALLS HER A PRINCESS. BUT DOES THIS MAKE HER A BOY? ACCORDING TO THE LITERATURE I'VE SEEN IN MY OWN LIBRARY, YES IT MIGHT AND THAT IS A VERY DAMAGING LIE. SHE IS ALSO A GIRL WHO LOVES PINK AND PURPLE, SPARKLY UNICORNS AND PLAYING BABY DOLLS. SHE IS AN INDIVIDUAL. HER OWN UNIQUE PERSON WHO DOESN'T FIT INTO A PROTOTYPE GIRL MOLD. BUT SHE IS STILL AN AMAZING AND STRONG GIRL. THE BOOKS I'VE SEEN ON OUR LIBRARY SHELFS WILL CONFUSE HER AND SOW A SEED OF DOUBT IN HER AS WHO SHE WAS MADE TO BE. A SEED THAT DOES NOT NEED TO

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TORMENT HER YOUNG AND IMPRESSIONABLE MINDS, A SEED THAT COULD POSSIBLY CHANGE THE COURSE OF HER LIFE AND THE LIVES OF MANY OF THE CHILDREN IN OUR COMMUNITY.

I AM HERE TODAY TO ASK YOU TO PLEASE TAKE ACTION ON THE MATURE SECT SEXUALLY THEMEED AND PORNOGRAPHIC LITERATURE WITHIN OUR CHILDREN'S REACH AT THE LIBRARY.

IT HAS BROKEN MY HEART TO DO SO, BUT AFTER ADDRESSING THIS ISSUE WITH THE LIBRARY AND THE REPEATED DENIALSES OF APPEOPLES TO REMOVE THESE BOOKS I HAVE NO LONGER ALLOWED MY CHILDREN TO EXPLORE THE LITERATURE IN OUR LINE BRAAE ARE AND I'M NOT THE ONLY YOUNG MOTHER DOING THIS I'VE TALKED WITH SEVERAL FAMILY MEMBERS UNHAPPY ABOUT THIS AND NO LONGER USING OUR FACILITY.

DO OUR PRESCHOOLERS REALLY NEED TO PICK UP A BOOK AND SEE CHILD GENDER TRANSITION AS IN JACK AND NOT JACKIE? DO THEY REALLY NEED TO BE SUBJECT TO THE OPINION THAT GIRLS WHO LIKE BOY THINGS ARE IN FACT BOYS THEMSELVESS A IN A BOY NAMED PEN NELLPY.

AND THE CARTOON NUDESTY AND SEX IN OTHER CHILDREN BOOKS I'VE PICKED UP IN LOVE I SPEAK TO YOU ON BEHALF OF OUR CHILDREN THAT ARE WITHIN ARM'S REACH OF THIS LIFE-ALTERING LITERATURE.

OUR LIBRARY SHOULD BE A SAFE HAVEN FOR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES NOT A PLACE WHERE THEIR

INNOCENCE IS STOLEN. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> SARAH ZELLER.

>> GOOD EVENING, I'M SARAH ZELLER. MAYOR BAUKNIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I'VE BEEN USING THE VICTORIA PUBLIC LIBRARY FOR OVER 35 YEARS. FIRST AS A CHILD AND NOW AS A MOM OF THREE.

I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE BOOKS THAT ARE BEING REMOVED FROM THE SHELVES.

RECENTLY I BROUGHT MY THREE CHILDREN TO THE LIBRARY FOR BOOKS THAT WE HAD CHECKED OUT THIS THE PAST TWO YEARS. WE DISCOVERED THREE OF THEIR FAVORITE BOOKS SERIESS ARE NOW MISSING, NOT THREE BOOKS, THREE SERIES. WE CHECKED THE LIBRARY CATALOG AND SPOKE TO AN EMPLOYEE WHO CONFIRMED THE BOOKS HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM THE LIBRARY I'S COLLECTION. WE LEFT INCREDIBLY DISAPPOINTED. THE AMERICAN GIRL COLLECTION IS A SET OF HISTORICAL FICTION BOOKS DESIGNED TO TEACH GIRLS ABOUT DAILY LIFE IN AMERICAN HISTORY. IT COVERS MILESTONES LIKE THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION, THE WAR OF 1812, SETTLING OF THE MIDWEST BY IMMIGRANTS AND MANY OTHERS. THE LIBRARY HAD OVER 50 OF THESE BOOKS. AND MY OLDEST CHILD READ THEM. MY SECOND CHILD WOULD LIKE TO READ THEM, BUT THE LIBRARY ONLY HAS TWO. ENCYCLOPEDIA BROWN BOOKS CONTAIN TEN SHORT MIST SERIES EACH. THE CLUES TO SOLVE THEM ARE INCLUDED IN THE STORY.

SO YOU MUST READ CAREFULLY AND THINK CREATIVELY. THERE USED TO BE 25 OF THESE AT THE LIBRARY, NOW THERE IS ONLY ONE. THE IMAGINATION STATION BOOKS ARE ALSO HISTORICAL FICTION BUT COVER EVENTS ALL ACROSS THE GLOBE.

THE SERIES CONTAINS 28 BOOKS, THE LIBRARY ONLY HAS 6. I WAS TOLD TO REQUEST THEY PURCHASE MORE, SO I DID. NOW THEY ONLY HAVE ONE BOOK. I WAS GIVEN A LIST OF POSSIBLE REASONS THE BOOKS WERE REMOVED: ONE, MAYBE THE BOOK WAS DAMAGED. IF SO, WHY WERE THE BOOKS NOT REPLACED? AND WERE ENTIRE SERIES OF BOOKS DAMAGED ALL AT THE SAME TIME? I HAVE FOUND SOME OF THESE VERY BOOKS IN THE LIBRARY BOOK SELL IN NEAR PERFECT CONDITION.

TWO, THE BOOKS COULD HAVE BEEN OUTDATED OR IRRELEVANT. BY DESIGN HISTSTORICAL FICTION AND NON-FICTION BOOKS SHOW US A GLIMPSE OF THE PAST. AMERICAN HISTORY IS ALWAYS RELEVANT TO AMERICAN CHILDREN. WORLD HISTORY IS ALWAYS RELEVANT TO AMERICAN CHILDREN.

THREE, MAYBE THE BOOKS WERE UNPOPULAR. WELL, MY FAMILY AND OTHERS HAVE CHECKED THEM OUT MULTIPLE TIMES. OTHER PUBLIC LIBRARIES STILL HAVE THESE BOOKS AND THEY OFFERED TO DO AN INTERLIBRARY LOAN, SHOWING THE OTHER LIBRARIES HAVE THEM.

LOCAL ELEMENTARY TEACHERS TELL ME THESE BOOKS ARE STILL FAVORITES IN THEIR CLASSROOMS AND OFFERED TO LOAN ME THEIR BOOKS. THE SHELFS IN THE JUVENILE FICTION AREA ARE ONLY ABOUT 50% FULL. YET, WONDERFUL BROOKS BEING REMOVED FROM THE LIBRARY. MANY OF THEM HISTORY BOOKS. THIS IS A HUGE DISAPPOINTMENT TO PARENTS AND TEACHERS IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO ARE WORKING HARD TO BUILD A LOVE OF READING AND A KNOWLEDGE OF HISTORY. DECISIONS WILL ALWAYS HAVE TO BE MADE ABOUT WHICH BOOKS STAY AND WHICH BOOKS GO, WE NEED THE LIBRARY TO MAKE BETTER DECISIONS.

THANK YOU. >> BRENDA BROOKS. BRENDA BROOKS.

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>> THANK YOU, FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. MY NAME IS BRENDA BROOKS.

I HAVE WORKED FOR MANY YEARS WITH CHILDREN OF ALL LEVELS AS A TEACHER, EDUCATIONAL DIEING KNOWS KHANCIAN, I HAVE A BACHELOR WITH ELEMENTARY EDUCATION WITH KINDERGARTEN LEARNING DISABILITIES LEARNING CHILDHOOD CERTIFICATIONS. I AM CERTIFIED ADDRESS A PROFESSIONAL EDUCATIONAL DIEING NOSTICCIAN AND MASTERS IN CURRICULUM AND INSTRUCTION.

I'M HERE TODAY TO PLEAD FORYOUR HELP IN PROTECTING OUR CHILDREN. THEY'RE PRECIOUS, THEY'RE VULNERABLE. AND THEY ARE OUR FUTURE. BEING EXPOSED TO SEXUALLY EXPLICIT MATERIALS PLACES CHILDREN AT RISK FROM ALL KINDS OF PREDATORS.

THIS IS JUST ONE REASON IT IS CRITICAL THAT A LOOPHOLE WHICH ALLOWS OBSCENE MATERIAL TO BE PROVIDED TO CHILDREN BE CLOSED. CHILDREN'S MINDS ARE NOT DEVELOPED ENOUGH TO HANDLE SEXUALLY EXPLICIT IMAGES. SEEING AN IMAGE THAT IS DISTRESSING TO THEM SENDS THEIR BRAIN THROUGH A COMPLICATED PROCESS AND RELEASES CHEMICALS. OVER TIME, DISTRESS CAN KILL BRAIN CELLS AND DISRUPT NEUROCONNECTIONS CAUSING DEPRESSION, ANXIETY, RISK-TAKING BEHAVIOR, INABILITY TO LEARN, AND POOR DECISION-MAKING SKILLS. THESE FACTORS CAN ULTIMATELY LEAD TO BEING VICTIMIZED BY HUMAN TRAFFICKERS AND AND/OR SEXUAL ABUSE.

THE FOLLOWING EXCERPT IS TAKEN FROM COREREY TEN BOOM'S STORY, CORRIE TEN BOOM'S WORDS "SO THE LINE HAD STUCK IN MY HEAD" SEX "I WAS PRETTY SURE IT MEANT WHETHER YOU WERE A BOY OR GIRL.

AND "SIN" MADE JANES TOGETHER BUT THE TWO TOGETHER I COULD NOT IMAGINE.

SEATED NEXT TO FATHER IN THE TRAIN COMPARTMENT I SUDDENLY ASKED, "FATHER, WHAT IS SEX SIN". HE TURNED TO LOOK AT ME AS HE ALWAYS DID WHEN ANSWERING A QUESTION. BUT TO MY SURPRISE, HE SAID NOTHING.

AT LEAST HE -- AT LAST HE STOOD UP, LIFTED HIS TRAVELING CASE FROM THE RACK OVER HIS HEAD AND SET IT ON THE FLOOR. WILL YOU CARRY IT OFF THE TRAIN, HE SAID.

I TUGGED AT IT STUFFED WITH WATCHES AND SPARE PARTS. IT IS TOO HEAVY, I SAID.

YES, HE SAID, AND IT WOULD BE PRETTY POOR FATHER WHO WOULD ASK HIS LITTLE GIRL TO CARRY SUCH A LOAD. IT IS THE SAME WAY. CORRIE WITH KNOWLEDGE, SOME KNOWLEDGE IS TOO HEAVY FOR CHILDREN WHEN YOU'RE OLDER AND STRONGER YOU CAN BARE IT, FOR NOW YOU MUST TRUST ME TO CARRY IT FOR YOU. I'M ASKING YOU TO HELP US PROTECT OUR CHILDREN. [APPLAUSE] IF Y'ALL WANT TO STAY, THAT'S GREAT. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ONTO HEMS WITH PUBLIC HEARING, ITEM C 1.

[1. An ordinance approving a Budget Amendment to the FY22 budget in the am...]

>> ORDINANCE APPROVING A BUDGET AMENDMENT IN FY 22 BUDGE IN AMOUNT OF $112,516.67 TO REPLACE

DAMAGE OR MISSING MEDICAL EQUIPMENT AND SUPPLIES. >>> GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. WESLEY AND I DON'T HAVE A PRESENT 8 BUT ABLE TO ANXIOUS

QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS EMERGENCY AMENDMENT OR BUDGET AMENDMENT. >> I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION.

THIS IS GOING REPLACE PART OF THE EQUIPMENT LOST. IS IT GOING IN ANOTHER UNIT?

>> YES, MA'AM. SO THIS IS TO REPLACE THE EQUIPMENT THAT WAS LOST AND PHIPPCHY WHEN WE HAVE AN AMBULANCE ACCIDENT OR LOSS OF A UNITED WE DON'T LOSE THE EQUIPMENT BUT DUE TO THE NATURE OF THE ACCIDENT WHERE THE EQUIPMENT WAS SUBMERGED WE LOST ALL OF THE EQUIPMENT WITH THE AMBULANCE AND WE'RE SCHEDULED TO TAKE DELIVERY OF A NEW AMBULANCE

WE BUDGETS IN JULY-AUGUST. IT WILL GO IN THAT UNIT. >> COUNCIL, ALSO, WE GET

REIMBURSED BY TML SO YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT. >> I SAW THAT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT THANK YOU.

THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM C 1. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM, PLEASE, STEP FORWARD. SEEING NO ONE COME FORWARD, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

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AND ENTERTAIN ANY MOTIONS. >> SO MO MOVE. >>> SEC.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSE SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.

[2. An ordinance amending Chapter 15 of the Victoria City Code pertaining ...]

ITEM C 2. >>> C TWO IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 15 OF THE VICTORIA CITY CODE PERTAINING THE PURCHASE OF CATALYTIC CONVERTERS.

>> MAYOR, COUNCIL, GOOD TO SEE YOU GUYS AGAIN. >>> GREAT TO SEE YOU.

>>> WELCOME BACK. >> THANK YOU, SORRY FOR THE LONG VACATION, I DID NOT ASK FOR IT NOR DID I WANT IT BUT I GUARANTEE YOU WE GOT A GREAT HOSPITAL HERE.

GREAT HELICOPTER THAT GOT ME TO SAN ANTONIO AND THEY TOOK GOOD CARE OF ME THERE.

BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT CITY MANAGER AND EVERYONE GAVE ME WHILE I WAS OUT.

TODAY WE'RE GOING TALK ABOUT AN ORDINANCE COUNCILMAN LOFGREN BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION.

I WANT TO THANK HIM FOR. THAT I APPRECIATE THE FORETHOUGHT TO HELP US AND UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE A UPTICK AND TRENDING NATIONAL TRENDS OF CATALYTIC CONVERTERS BEING STOLEN. THIS IS AN ITEM WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT SINCE I ARRIVED COMING UP ON 19 MONTHS NOW AND SOMETHING I'VE BEEN VERY CONCERNED OBTAIN.

WE TRACK IT DAILY, WE LOOK AT IT AND TRY TO DETERMINE WHERE IT IS HAPPENING AND THROUGH OUR DATA ANALYSIS, WE PUT OUR OFFICERS IN THOSE AREAS, BUT GOSH, IT IS HARD TO BE EVERYWHERE AT ONCE.

AND WE ARE JUST NOT HAVING A LOT OF SUCCESS WITH IT. LAST YEAR WE WERE ABLE TO CONTROL IT SOMEWHAT. WE STILL HAD AN UPTICK, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE SLIDE PRESENTED TO YOU BEFORE, THAT I THOUGHT WE DID PRETTY GOOD CONTROLLING AT 95, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE ONE OF THOSE FOLKS THAT I HAPPENED TO. AND I TAKE ANY TYPE OF CRIME VERY PERSONAL.

SO I DON'T WANT ANY OF OUR CITIZENS TO HAVE THAT HAPPEN TO THEM.

BUT IF WE LOOK AT MOVING ON -- WELL, LOOKING AT THAT YEAR TO DATE, IT HAS GONE UP SINCE THEN BUT PROJECTING TO BE AROUND THAT SAME TYPE OF UPTICK. YOU'LL SEE SINCE THE LAST PRESENT 8 THAT DEPUTY CHIEF JAMISON MADE, WE HAVE HAD AN ADDITIONAL, I THINK 14 OR 15 CATALYTIC CONVERTERS TAKEN. SO I WANT TO THANK THE CITY ATTORNEY ALLISON FOR WRITING THE ORDINANCE. AND IOWA TOP RECOMMEND THAT WE PASS THIS ORDINANCE AND BECAUSE WHAT IT IS GOING TO DO IS GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY WHEN YOU'RE OUT THERE, IT COULD BE A NUMBER OF THINGS, AND SOMETIMES IT IS NOT WHAT YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU CAN PROVE, OBVIOUSLY, WITH THIS ORDINANCE IT GIVES MY OFFICERS AN OPPORTUNITY, IT GIVES THEM MORE TOOLS IN THEIR TOOL BOX TO ADDRESS AN UPTICK IN CRIME AND THAT IS THE THEFT OF CATALYTIC CONVERTERS, SO IT IS VERY EASY TO PROVE IN IS IS YOUR RIGHTFUL CATALYTIC CONVERTER AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO TICKET THEM FOR THAT. BUT IF THEY'VE FOLLOWED THE TREND OF USING SOME TYPE OF SAWZAW TO SAW OFF SOMEONE'S CAT IT WILLIC CONVERTER WE WANTS TO ADDRESS THAT RIGHT THEN.

WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN SOME CASES AND MADE GREAT ARRESTS AND SEEN THEM COME FROM CORPUS CRISTI, FROM OUTSIDE OUR HEAR TO INCLUDES SOME OF OUR CITIZENS AS WELL THAT HAVE BEEN SOOSTLED WITH THIS WITH THE PASSING OF THIS ORDINANCE IT WOULD GIVE US ANOTHER TOOL TO ADDRESS THIS.

THE SOME THING I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP IN IS FIN.63 PENALTYU EWOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE CHANGE IT FROM A $500 -- NOT TO EXCEED $FAVOR00 TO NOT LESS THAN $500. FOR EACH OCCURRENCE THAT WOULD

BE MY ONLY ASKING IN THE CHANGE. >> CAN IT BE MORE THAN $500? >> NOT IF SKIT A CLASS C CITY

ORDINANCE, RIGHT, ALLISON? >> THIS DOESN'T QUALIFY UNDER THE EXCEPTION THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO GO ABOVE $500, BUT WE CAN UNDER THE ORDINANCE MAKE IT SO IT IS A MAX $500 FOR EVERY SICKLE TICKET. SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID WITH GAME ROOMS, I BELIEVE, WHENEVER WE

PASSED THAT ORDINANCE. >> YEAH, IT JUST, THESE ARE LONG-TERM INVESTIGATIONS, BUT IF WE CAN REALLY ADDRESS THOSE GUYS THAT ARE TRYING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OUR GREAT CITIZENS, WITH THESE TYPES OF CITATIONS, I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL AND HELPFUL TO OUR

OFFICERS. >> I MOVE WE AMEND IT. >> WE HAVE TO HAVE A MOTION ON

THE FLOOR, FIRST J AND I HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. >> I MOVE WE ADOPT THE

ORDINANCE. >>> PUBLIC HEARING FIRST. NO QUESTIONS FOR THE CHIEF.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CHIEF. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> OKAY READING THROUGH THIS, I GUESS MY QUESTION I NEED YOU TO HELP ME WITH, I UNDERSTAND ABOUT

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CUTTING, BUT IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT UNBOLTED. AND I'M -- FROM WHAT YOU SAID IT IS A QUICK CUT, AND SO WALK ME THROUGH WHY UNBOLTING IS NEEDED AND WHY IT NEEDS TO BE IN HERE.

>> YES, MA'AM. THIS IS A CRIME OF OPPORTUNITY. THEY MOVE VERY QUICKLY, THEY GET UNDER YOUR CAR, USE A SAWZAW AND WING A COUPLE OF MINUTE THEIRS GONE.

SOME HAVE COME INTO RETAIL LOCATION AND COME OUT IT HAS HAPPENED TO THEM.

IN ORDER TO UNBOLT IT IT IS A BIGGER PROCESS AND A LOT LONGER AND THAT IS SOMETHING A MECHANIC WOULD DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF MECHANICAL KNOWLEDGE. AND SO WHAT THEY USE ARE THESE SAWZAW AND GET THROUGH THIS QUICKLY AND IN AND OUT AND GONE. THEY WILL MAKE A COUPLE HUNDRED BUCKS AND GOING TO COST A CITIZEN ANYWHERE FROM $2,000 UP TO $7,000 TO REPLACE IT.

>> OKAY, SO I KIND OF FIGURED THAT. SO WE'VE STILL GOT UNBOLTING IN HERE SO THAT IS JUST SO EVERYTHING IS COVERED SO THAT IF SOMEBODY DID HAVE A VEHICLE OUT IN TOWN AND THEY HAD TIME TO UNBOLT IT, WE STILL WANTED TO COVER IT.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> OKAY. >> ARE YOU READY?

QUESTION? >> I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION. SO WE PLACE IN HERE SOME RESPONSIBILITIES ON RECYCLERS, ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT THEY HAVE NOW.

AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE, I GUESS, THAT WHATEVER WE PASS IS CLEAR TO THOSE FOLKS IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY NEED TO BE DOING AND HOW THEY NEED TO BE DOING IT. AND SO, WHEN I READ THROUGH HERE, YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING SPECIFICALLY AT 1561 A1 AND UNDER THAT IS ONE, TWO AND 3, BUT IN ITEM TWO IT SAYS THE METAL RECYCLER VERIFIES THE REPAIR FACILITY IS AN ACTUAL BUSINESS AND THAT THE AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR FACILITY OR MUFFLER REPAIR FACILITY IS OPEN FOR BUSINESS. MY QUESTION WOULD BE IF I'M A METAL RECYCLER, I NEED TO KNOW, HOW DO I DO THAT? HOW DO I VERIFY THAT? IS THAT A THROUGH THE SECRETARY OF STATE? IS THAT THROUGH -- I MEAN, I GUESS I WANT TO MAKE SURE THOSE

FOLKS UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE ASKING THEM TO DO THERE. >> SO I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND.

>> MY QUESTION IS IF WE'RE ASKING THEM -- IF WE'RE TELLING THEM THEY NEED TO VERIFY THAT, WHAT IS GOING TO BE SUFFICIENT VERIFICATION BY THE METAL SUPPLY THEY ARE THAT SHOP WAS A

LEGITIMATE SHOP. >>> YOU CAUGHT ME OFF GUARD. JUST SO I'M ON THE SAME PAGE WITH YOU. THE PERSON SELLING THE CATALYTIC CONVERTER PRESENTS A VERIFIED RECEIPT, BASICALLY, IF WE'RE ON -- THAT IS THE SAME WE'RE LOOKING AT, RIGHT?

>> I'M LOOKING AT PROVISION RIGHT BELOW THAT, CHIEF, WHICH IS ITEM TWO.

AND IT SAYS THE MEDICAL RECYCLER VERIFIES THE REPAIR FACILITY IS AN ACTUAL BUSINESS AND THAT EITHER REPAIR FACILITY OR MUFFLER REPAIR FACILITY IS OPEN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC FOR BUSINESS. SO I THINK WE MAYBE SHOULD THINK ABOUT HOW DO WE TWEAK THAT A LITTLE BIT SO THOSE FOLKS THOUGH WHAT WE'RE ASKING. I'M NOT IN THE METAL RECYCLING BUSINESS, BUT IF I'M LOOKING AT THAT THINKING, HOW DO I DO THAT? WHAT IS NEEDED FOR ME TO MEET

THOSE. >> I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOUR COMING FROM BECAUSE THE SHADEDY MECHANIC THAT DOES IT ON THE SIDE IS NOT AVER LEGITIMATE BUSINESS.

>>> SOME OF THAT MIGHT ALSO BE ON THE IMPLEMENT 8 PIECE, RIGHT, ON THE MECHANICS AROUND THE PROCESS. I'M NOT SURE THE LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT WOULD GO INTO THE ORDINANCE IN TERMS OF A PROCESS. IF WE THINK OF OTHER ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE, THEY DON'T SAY GO TO THIS WEBSITE AND DO THIS RIGHT? THE PROCEDURES ARE SORT OF DEVELOPED BY STAFF, YOU KNOW, AFTER THE FACT. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS ONE OF THOSE INSTANCES, WHERE MAYBE WE JUST TAKE IT UPON OURSELVES TO DEVELOP, YOU KNOW, PROCESS AFTER THE FACT. I'M NOT SURE IF THE CLARIFICATION OR LEVEL OF SPES SPECIFICITY YOU WANT THE PLACE TO DO THAT IS THE ORDINANCE OR SIMPLY HOW WE DEVELOP THE ACTUAL

PROCESS AFTERWARDS. >> IF WE'RE CREATE AN ORDY INSTANCE THAT IS A MISDEMEANOR THAT IF IT IS TOO VAGUE, THEN YOU KNOW, IT MAY NOT HAVE THE IMPACT THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

AND SO IF WE HAVE -- IF WE HAVE ITEMS IN THERE OR REQUIREMENTS IN THERE THAT AREN'T SPECIFIC ENOUGH, THEN THEY COULD BE SUBJECT TO SOMEBODY QUESTIONING, HEY IS THIS TOO VAGUE TO BE ENFORCIBLE? AND TO ME, ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT THE STATUTE THAT I WOULD

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QUESTION IF I'M A METAL RECYCLER TRYING TO COMPLY WITH THIS IS HOW DO I VERIFY THIS? HOW DO I MAKE SURE I'M IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE STATUTE BECAUSE IT IS A CRIMINAL STATUTE. IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE CLEAR IN THERE SCA ONE THING WE CAN'T ADD AND WE'VE KIND OF LOOKED AT DIFFERENT ORDINANCES AROUND THE STAYED AND FOUND ONE IN HUMBOLDT WHICH IS WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR AND WE WENT AND USED MOST OF THEIRS.

BUT SOMETHING IN THEIRS IS A SELLER WITH A VALID USE AUTOMOTIVE PART, ISSUED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS OF LICENSE AND REGULATION UNDER THE TEXAS OCCUPATION CODE OF CHAPTER 2309 MAY OFFER FOR SALE CATALYTIC CONVERTERS TO A METAL RECYCLERS WITHOUT A VERIFIABLE RECEIPT FROM A REPAIR FACILITY ANDHOUSE OBTAIN A COPY OF THE VALID LICENSE ISSUED BY THE TDLR.

AND THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE CAN ADD TO GIVE THE RECYCLER THE ABILITY TO CONTINUE FORWARD WITH

THEIR BUSINESS, BUT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO US. >> WE HAVE THAT IN.

>> IS IT? >> YES. >> ITEM 3.

>> IF I COULD SORT OF RE-ENFORCE, I AGREE WITH MR. CROCKER.

IT MIGHT BE WE NEED TO PUT IN AN AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE IF THE RECYCLER HAS DONE THE FOLLOWING THINGS. IF SOMEONE BRINGS ME A RECEIPT AND IT IS FROM X, Y, Z REPAIR FACILITY AND IT HAS A PHONE NUMBER ON THERE AND I CALL THAT PHONE NUMBER, AND SO THIS GUY'S FRIEND ANSWERS THE PHONE EXPECTING THE CALL AND SAYS, OH, YEAH, WE'RE A VERIFIABLE REPAIR, WELL, THAT PUTS A RECYCLER IN A TOUGH SPOT. HAS HE CONFIRMED IT? OR WAS HE SUPPOSED TO LOOK FURTHER? AND SO THAT IS WHY I'M THINKING MAYBE A DEFENSE THAT THEY MADE AN TOTER VERIFY AND LOOKED ON-LINE OR CHECKED THE SECRETARY OF STATE OR ANY ONE OF THESE THINGS IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET AT?

>> IT IS. >> LIKE AN FEIN? OR TEXAS START SALES TAX NUMBER,

THAT VERIFIES YOU AS A BUSINESS. >>> THEY SAY YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LICENSE.

>> JUST A METAL RECYCLER. >> BECAUSE THIS IS PUTTING THE ONUS ON ON THE METAL RECYCLER

THAT THE RECEIPT IS AN ACTUAL SHOP. >>> WHEN I RECYCLE, COPPER AND STUFF, IF I HAVE A THIRD PARTY THAT COMES TO MY SHOP AND DOES MY PROCESSING AND THEN GOES TO THE RECYCLER, HE HAS TO HAVE LETTER, TYPICALLY ON MY LETTERHEAD WITH MY FEIN OR TAX ID AND TDLR NUMBER THAT SAYS HE'S AUTHORIZED, THAT IS THE COPPER THAT CAME FROM MY OPERATION THAT HE'S RECYCLING. AND IT IS JUST, IT IS NOT -- I KNOW WHAT MR. CROCKER IS SAYING, IT IS NOT SPELLED OUT TO THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL ON WHAT CONSTITUTES VERSION.

>> DO YOU GET A PHONE CALL ASKING YOU IF THAT IS YOUR RECEIPT?

>> SOMETIMES I DO. >> AND THERE IS A RECENT SENATE BILL ALSO THAT PUTS THE ONUS ON THE RECYCLER TO THE SAME DEGREE. AND WE'LL RESEARCH THAT TO SEE WHAT THAT IS TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE IN LINE WITH THAT. BUT HONESTLY THE ONUS IS ON THE RECYCLER TO EARN SURE THEY'RE NOT RECEIVING STOLEN PROPERTY. AND WE'LL LOOK TO ADDRESS THAT AND DETAIL THAT MORE SO THAT WE

CAN MAKE IT AS SMOOTH AS WE CAN. >> JUST --

>> YES, SIR. >> I REALLY WANT TO COMMENT ON THE EMPHASIS ON THE ORDINANCE IS. AND THAT IS THE OFFICER ON THE STREET THAT COMES IN CONTACT WITH SOMEONE THAT HAS EIGHT CATALYTIC CONVERTERS IN THEIR TRUNK OR BACK SEAT OR WHATEVER AND WITHOUT HAVING COMPLAINTANTS AND VICTIMS AND SOMEONE THAT WE CONTACT, SOMETIMES WE JUST TAKE THE PROPERTY AND PUT IT IN THE PROPERTY ROOM AND TRY TO PROVE UP THE CASE LATER.

AT LEAST THIS WAY, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE SOME TYPE OF WAY OF ADDRESSING IT IMMEDIATELY.

>> YEAH. >> THANK YOU, CHIEF, I APPRECIATE IT.

>> YES, SIR, THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME OPEN C 2 OPEN TO PUBLIC HEARING SEEING NO ONE RISE UP TO SPEAK WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN ANY

MOTION. >>> I MOVE WE ADOPT IT. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND TO ADOPT IT IS THERE ANY AMENDMENTS THAT WISH TO BE OFFERED?

>> EWOULD LIKE IT TO BE $500, PERIOD. >> TO BE SPECIFIC, I WANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT FOR ITEM 15.63 YOU WANT IT TO READ NOT TO BE LESS THAN $500.

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>> YES. >> INSTEAD OF "NOT TO EXCEED". THANK YOU.

>> MOTION TO AMEND? >> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION THERE.

IS THAT PER EACH CATALYTIC CONVERT THEY HAVE? >> YES, MA'AM

>> WHOA, SO THE GUY WITH 14, HE'S GOING GET A BILL. >>> THAT'S THE POINT.

>> THAT IS THE PLAN. >>> OUR CITIZENS ARE GOING TO PAY DEPENDING ON WHAT THEIR INSURANCE COVERS OR NOT ANYWHERE FROM $2,000 TO $7,000 IS WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION TO AMEND AND A SECOND BY MS. SOLIZ. >> YES.

>> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON SIT IN. >> ONE QUESTION, IF WE MAKE THAT AMENDMENT, MS. LACEY, WILL THAT LEAVE THIS AS A SAME CLASS OF MISDEMEANOR?

>> YES, SIR. >> STILL A CLASS C. >> GO AHEAD.

>> I'M GOOD. >>> IF YOU HAVE MULTIPLE CATALYTIC CONVERTERS IT WOULD BE

MULTIPLE CHARGES. >> MULTIPLE CITATIONS. >> AND YOU'VE CAUGHT PEOPLE WITH

MULTIPLE CATALYTIC CONVERT. >> MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE TIMES. >> ALL RIGHT.

>> $4,000 CAUSE THEM TO STOP. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENT SAY AYE.

THOSE OPPOSE SAME SIGN. ALL RIGHT, WE'RE ONTO TO THE AMENDED MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM C 2. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE?

THOSE OPPOSE SAME SIGN. GREAT. >> WE'LL WORK ON CLEANING UP THE

LANGUAGE BEFORE THE NEXT READING. >> OKAY.

>> THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU COUNCILMAN LOVER AGAIN.

MS. LACEY. >> ALL RIGHT, MS. HILBRICH, ITEM D 1.

[D. Consent Agenda:]

>> ADOPTION OF MINUTES OF THE JUNE 72022 REGULAR MEETING. >> D 2 IS AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR CONVENTION AND VISITOR BUREAU FUNDS FOR THE DELEON PLAZA, ITEM ON SECONDS AND THIRD READING, D 3 IS AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR NORTH HEIGHTS PHASE 7 RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT ON SEC AND THIRD READING, D 4 IS A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE RENEWAL OF THE MICROSOFT ENTERPRISE AGREEMENT WITH SHI TBOFT SOLUTIONS, INC. IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXOCETS $192,342.96 OVER A 3-YEAR TERM.

D 5 IS A RESOLUTION APPROVING AGREEMENT WITH CIVICPLUS FOR CIVICREC REGULATION E REGISTRATION AND RESERVATION IN THE AMOUNTED OF $56,701 OVER A FIVE-YEAR TERM.

D 6 APPROVING THE EMERGENCY MEDICAL SUPPLIES FROM BOUNDS TREE MEDICAL LLC VIA GOVERNMENTAL PURCHASING CONTRACT BUY BOARD CONTRACT ESTIMATE $195,000.

>>> D 7 DESIGNATE CITY MANAGER AS AUTHORIZED OFFICIAL TO APPROVE FISCAL YEAR 2023 FOR OMOTOR VEHICLE CRIME PREVENTION AUTHORITY GRANT PROGRAM. D 8 IS A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE PURCHASE OF 20 TOUCH TIME III TIME CLOCKS FROM SHI IN THE AMOUNT OF $81,702.10.

ITEM D 9 AWARDING LONE TREE CREEK LIFT STATION SANITARY SEWER BYPASS REHABILITATION PROJECT TO UDELHOVEN, INC. FOR THEIR COMPETITIVE SEALED PROPOSAL IN THE AMOUNT OF $147,998.27. D 10 IS A RESOLUTION AWARDING THIS SURFACE WATER TREATMENT PLANNED CHLORINE 2-TON MONORAIL SYSTEM TO SOUTH TEXAS OVERHEAD CRANES AND HOISTS LLC OF CORPUS CRISTI, TEXAS IN LOW PROPOSAL AMOUNT OF $130,000 Z 11 APPROVE AMENDMENT TO VICTORIA SALES TAX DEVELOPMENT COOPERATION FY 2021-2022 BUDGET COORDINATION SERVICES FOR CONTRACT.

>>> MOTION. >> SECT. >> MOTION AND SECOND ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ALL THOSE IN TAIFER SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSE SAME SIGN.

[1. Approve a contract with Harrison, Waldrop & Uherek, L.L.P., to per...]

HOSE AREAS. ITEM E 1. >>> E 1 IS A RESOLUTION APPROVING A CONTRACT WITH HARRISON WALL DROP AND UHEREKLLP TO SPREMPLE CITY'S ANNUAL AUDIT FOR THE YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 20, 2022 IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXOCET $53,500.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WE WENT THROUGH A RFQ PROCESS EARLIER THIS YEAR TO PROCURE A CPA FIRM TO PERFORM THE FINANCIAL AUDIT FOR FISCAL YEAR IN 2022.

WE ISSUED THAT IN JANUARY WE GOT TWO RESPONSES, ONE FROM OUR CURRENT AUDITOR IS WE RATED

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THESE RESPONSES AND SELECTED HARRISON WALL DROP ANDHEREK. THIS WILL COVER THE NEXT FISCAL YEARS WITH TWO OPTIONAL ONE-YEAR RENEWALS THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 2026.

THERE WILL BE AN ENGAGEMENT LETTER ISSUED FOR EACH YEAR. THE PROPOSAL IS $53,500.

AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANY QUESTIONS. >> I WOULD SIMPLY ADD IT IS STANDARD PRACTICE FOR US TO GO THROUGH AN RFQ PROCESS FOR AUDITING SERVICES EVERY FIVE

YEARS. SO WE WERE AT THATJUNCTTURE. >> THANK YOU.

>> IS THAT SAME PRICE IT IS GOING STAY FOR THE FIVE-YEAR OPTION? THIS PRICEP DOESN'T CALL FOR A FIX RIGHT NOW, BUT LOVE TO GET IT FIXED, WE CAN WORK ON IT, RIGHT? YES AND NO. FOR THE PAST OVER TEN YEARS, THE FEE WAS ABOUT $5,000 LESS. WE'VE BEEN PAYING OVER THE LAST $45, 47, THEY INCREASED THE FEE $5,000 SO FAR FOR THE PAST 15, 20 YEARS. THAT IS JUST FYI, IF IT IS WORTH

ANYTHING. >> THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING MY QUESTION.

BEFORE I ASKED IT. >> HE'S GOOD. >> ALL RIGHT, ANYBODY HAVE A

MOTION. >> SO MOVE. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM E 1, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

THOSE OPPOSE SAME SIGN. MOTION IS APPROVED. E 2 AWARD AGENCY CONTRACT TO

[2. Award a contract to Brannan Paving Co., LTD for the North Heights Reha...]

BRANON PAVING COMPANY LTD FOR THE NORTH HEIGHTS REHAB OVERLAY PROJECT 7 EAST NUECES STREET FOR THEIR COMPETITIVE SEALED PROPOSAL IN THE AMOUNT OF $3,222,033.05.

>>> LAST COUNCIL SESSION FOR THE BUDGET AMENDMENT, BASICALLY IT IS LAST PHASE OF NORTH HEIGHTS, NUECES STREET AND CROSS STREETS NORTH AND SOUTH. WE HAD TWO SEALED PROPOSAL, ONE FROM BRANNAN FOR $3,222,033, AND CONTRACTING. THIS RESOLUTION WILL RECOMMEND

APPROVAL OF THE CONTRACT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH BRANNAN. >> I MOVE TO ADOPT.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHERED DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AAYE. THOSE OPPOSE SAME SIGN, MOTION CARRIES.

MR. GARZA. >> ALL RIGHT. PUT IS THIS ON? YEAH, OKAY. WE HAVE THREE CITY MANAGER ROARS FOR YOU THIS EVENING.

[1. Fiscal Year 2020–2021 Annual Comprehensive Financial Report. Wesley Ja...]

THE FIRST IS RELATED TO OUR ANNUAL CONFERENCE OF FINANCIAL REPORT.

I'M GOING THE ASK WESLEY TO INTRODUCE THAT TOPIC. >> TONIGHT WE'RE GOING BE DOING A REPORT ON THE COMPLETION OF THE AUDIT FOR THE CITY'S FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2021. HARRISON WALL DROP AND UHEREK COMPLETED THE AUDIT.

TO COMPLY WITH ALL FILING REQUIREMENTS, MELISSA TERRY WHO WILL BE THE ENGAGEMENT PARTNER ON THE AUDIT IS HERE TO PRESENT AN OVERVIEW OF THE AUDIT PROCESS AND THE ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT.

>> GOODING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. APPRECIATE Y'ALL HAVING ME HERE THIS EVENING LIKE WESLEY SAID, MY NAME IS MELISSA TERRY, I'M A CPA AND PARTNER WITH THE FIRM OF HARRISON, WALDROP AND UHEREK AND I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE THE STAFF THAT PARTICIPATED IN THE AUDIT. DISCUSS THE AUDIT PROCESS, GO OVER SOME REQUIRED COMMUNICATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO DO BRIEFLY DISCUSS THE AUDIT RESULTS, FINANCIAL HIGHLIGHTS AND TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. URAUDIT TEAM CONSISTENTED OF MYSELF, STEVE ANNE MANON AND ELIZABETH, ALL OF OUR THESE INDIVIDUALS WE'VE RECEIVED THE REQUIRED TRAINING, CPE, AND WE HAVE MANY, MANY YEARS OF AUDIT AND ACCOUNTING EXPERIENCE IN

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GOVERNMENTAL. THE ENGAGEMENT TIMELINE. WE BEGUN OUR AUDIT PLANNING PRETTY MUCH ONCE THE PREVIOUS ONE HAS ENDED. AT THAT TIME AS YOU KNOW, AS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER, WE ISSUE AN ENGAGEMENT LETTER. AND AT THAT POINT WE START THE PROCESS. IT IS KIND OF WE HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE STAFF, WITH THE CITY CITY LETTING THEM KNOW THAT IF THERE IS EVER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THEY CAN COME TO US. THERE IS CONSTANT CHANGES IN AUDIT STANDARDS AND AUDIT REPORTING REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY HAVE TO THAT WE KIND OF BOUNCE OFF IDEAS GOING FORWARD.

SO THE INITIAL AUDIT PLANNING BEGINS, YOU KNOW, NOW. AND THEN WE DISCUSS WITH THE AUDIT STAFF AND PLAN OUR INTERIM AUDIT PROCEDURE, INTERIM AUDIT PROCEDURES ARE ABOUT IN THE MONTHS OF SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER. AND THEN OUR FINAL FIELD WORK PROCEDURES ARE IN DECEMBER.

WE YOU KNOW, FROM DECEMBER OR JANUARY THROUGH APRIL WE ARE ASSISTING WITH THE CITY IN PREPARING THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, THE AUDIT REPORT. THE AUDIT REPORT FOR SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2021 WAS ISSUED ON APRIL 28TH, 2022. THE CITY DOESN'T JUST ISSUE A REGULAR STANDARD FINANCIAL REPORT AS YOU ALL KNOW. THE REPORT THAT IS ISSUED IS CALLED THE ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY HAS DONE FOR MANY YEARS EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN DOING THIS AUDIT.

IT IS FOR THE GFA AWARD AND TO SHOW Y'ALL'S EXCELLENT FINANCIAL REPORTING.

SO THEN WE'RE HERE TONIGHT. AND THEN BETWEEN NOW AND I GUESS AROUND SEPTEMBER, WE'LL DISCUSS WITH THE CITY ANY DEVELOPMENTS AS THEY'RE CONSTANT CONSTANTLY NEW AUDIT STANDARDS AND PROCEDURES WE HAVE TO PUT IN PLACE. THERE IS NEW GUIDELINES AND STATEMENTS ISSUED EVERY YEAR AND A NEW ONE HITTING THIS YEAR. WE HAVE SEVERAL REQUIRED AUDIT COMMUNICATIONS. AS AUDITORS, WE HAVE TO COMMUN INDICATE TO YOU ALL OUR RESPONSIBILITY UNDER THE GENERALLY ACCEPTED AUDITING STANDARDS AND GOVERNMENT AUDITING STANDARDS. THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ARE ALWAYS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CITY, THOUGH. OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS TO EXPRESS AN OPINION ABOUT WHETHER THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ARE PREPARED BY THE MANAGEMENT ARE FAIRLY PRESENTED IN ALL MATERIAL RESPECTS. OUR OPINION ISSUED ON THE 2021 FINANCIAL STATEMENTS WAS UNMODIFIED OR CLEAN AS YOU ALWAYS HAD. IN THOSE COMMUNICATIONS, WE HAVE ALSO COMMUNICATED TO Y'ALL THAT THERE WERE NO FRAUD, IRREGULARITIES OR IGLEGAL ACTS NOTEED AND NOTED NO MATERIAL WEAKNESSES. BECAUSE THE CITY -- BECAUSE THE CITY EXPENDED $750,000 OR MORE IN FEDERAL EXPENDITURE, THE CITY IS SUBJECT TO A SINGLE AUDIT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE UNIFORM GUIDANCE. IN THAT RESPONSIBILITY, WE HAVE TO PLAN AND PERFORM AUDIT TO OBTAIN REASONABLE ASSURANCE ABOUT WHETHER NON-COMPLIANCE WITH COMPLIANCE REQUIREMENTS COULD HAVE A DIRECT AND MATERIAL EFFECT ON THE MAJOR PROGRAM.

WE FOUND NO INSTANCES OF NONCOMPLIANCE. ALSO, WE ARE REQUIRED TO COMMUNICATE THAT THERE WERE NO ESTIMATES EMBODIED IN THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS THAT ARE CONSIDERED MATERIAL. THERE WERE NO DIFFICULTY ENCOUNTERED WITH MANAGEMENT.

THERE WAS NO, IS SHOES WITH INDEPENDENCE. WE RECEIVED MANAGEMENT REPRESENTATIONS ON ALL THESE ISSUES AND THERE WERE NO UNCORRECTED MISSTATEMENTS TO REPORT. SO IN SUMMARY, THE CITY RECEIVED AN UNMODIFIED OPINION, AS I STATED PREVIOUSLY. AND AS YOU HAVE IN THE PAST, AND THERE WERE NO MANAGE NBCMENTS RECEIVED OR ISSUED. SO SOME FINANCIAL HIGHLIGHTS, WE WILL GO OVER BRIEFLY THE THREE MAJOR FUNDS OF THE CITY THAT WOULD BE THE GENERAL FUND, THE WATER FUND AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL

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SERVICES FUND. ALL THREE FUNDS INCURRED INCREASES IN THEIR FUNDS BALANCE OR NET POSITION FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING 9/20/21. WATER FUND 89.UP TO ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES FROM 6.2 TO 6.84. WYNN THING ALSO TO NOTE IN THE GENERAL FUND THE UNASSIGNED PORTION OF THE FUND BALANCE IN COMPARISON WITH THE TOTAL GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES INCREASED FROM A 39% TO 47%. SO UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE OVER THE TOTAL EXPENDITURE INCREASE. THE CITY'S MINIMUM FUND BALANCE IS 25%.

>> YOU SAID THAT IS FOR THE GENERAL SUNDAY IN. >> THAT IS JUST SPECIFICALLY A

GENERAL FUND, YES. >> THE REASON WHY YOU'RE SEEING SUCH A HIGH THERE IS YOU HAVE TO NUNS THE AUDIT THEY DO THE EXPENSES FROM OUR STANDPOINT, TAKE THE ACTUAL EXPENSES TOGETHER FOR THE FISCAL YEAR YOU HAVE A DIFFERENCE NOT APPLES AND APPLES COMPARISON.

>> OKAY. >> INCLUDED IN THE CHANGE IN FUND BALANCE AND NET POSITION WERE THESE MAJOR REVENUE CATEGORIES. AND YOU HAVE THE COMPARISON OF THE PROPERTY TAX, SALES TAX, FRANCHISE TAX, WATER AND SEWER SALES AND SOLID WASTE COLLECTIONS. OUT OF THOSE FIVE, THREE OF THEM HAD INCREASE, PROPERTY TAX AND SALES TAX. AND WATER ACTUALLY DECREASED JUST FROM 26.3 DOWN TO 26.2.

AND THEN FRANCHISE HAD A SLIGHT DECREASE. AND THEN IN COMPARISON WITH YOUR EXPENDITURE, GENERAL FUNDS EXPENDITURE DID INCREASE 47 MILLION UP TO CLOSE TO 50 MILLION. WATER FUND EXPENDITURES EXPENSES AND ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES FUND EXPENSES BOTH HAD DECREASES. THE PRIMARY REASON FOR ANY CHANGE FROM ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT IS JUST ONE-TIME EXPENDITURE OR EXPENSES. SO FOR FUTURE REFERENCE IN A GOOD PLACE TO GO FOR UNDERSTANDING OF THE CITY'S FINANCIAL SITUATION -- AND THIS IS A PART OF THE REPORT THAT IS USED BY BOND RATING AGENCIES AND A REQUIRED PART OF THE REPORT IS INCLUDED ON PAGE FOUR OF THE ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT.

AND THIS SECTION IS CALLED THE MANAGEMENT'S DISCUSSION AND ANALYSIS.

IT PROVIDES AN OVERVIEW OF THE CITY'S FINANCIAL ACTIVITIES, PRESENTS FINANCIAL HIGHLIGHTS AND OTHER ECONOMIC DATA TO ASSESS THE FINANCIAL CONDITION OF THE CITY AND HELPS READERS UNDERSTAND GOVERNMENTAL "ING AND HOW IT IS APPLIED TO EACH FUND. SO THIS IS ONE OF THE PAGES HERE. THIS IS THE FIRST PAGE. AND ON THE FIRST PAGE WE CONCLUDED THAT THE FINANCIAL HIGHLIGHTS OF THE GOVERNMENTAL ACTIVITIES IN THE BUSINESS ACTIVITIES. I REALLY LIKE THIS SECTION AS I MENTIONED TO WESLEY EARLIER TODAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A LOT OF WORK THAT GOES INTO THIS MANAGEMENT'S DISCUSSION AND ANALYSIS, YOU KNOW, IT IS A LOT OF EXPLANATIONS AND NARRATIVE FORMS EXPLAINING SOME OF THE QUESTIONS Y'ALL MAY HAVE, WHY THERE ARE INCREASES OR DECREASES FROM ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT YOU CAN PROBABLY FIND IT HERE. SO IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION IN THE REPORT AS YOU GO THROUGH IT, GO BACK TO THE MANAGEMENT DISCUSSION ANALYSIS, IT IS PROBABLY EXPLAINED WHETHER A VARIANCE IN YOUR BUDGET OR JUST IN CHANGE IN FUND BALANCE. SO AT THIS POINT, I'M AVAILABLE

FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >> I'M JUST CURIOUS ON THAT LAST ONE SINCE IT IS CALLED

MANAGEMENT'S DISCUSSION. >> DISCUSSION ANALYSIS. >> WHO WRITES THAT?

>> IS A JOINT -- WE PROVIDE THE FINANCIAL, I MEAN IT IS A JOINT EFFORT.

MOST OF THE EXPLANATIONS ALL COME FROM THE CITY FINANCE DEPARTMENT.

>> THANK YOU. >> IF THERE IS A CHANGE, WE GO TO THEM AND, YOU KNOW, GET CONFIRM 8 AND WORK THROUGH IT TOGETHER. YES, MA'AM.

>> EVERYBODY PAY AT TENSION TO THE LAST BULLET? LONG-TERM DEBT REDUCED BY

19.3 MILLION. >> WE PAID OFF 13 MILLION. >> I DO HAVE A QUESTION, YOU MIGHT WANT TO EXPAND ON YOU BRIEFLY TOUCHED BON IT -- UPON IT, AN OVERVIEW OF HWU BEING AUDITED, IN OTHER WORDS, YOU HAVE AN OUTSIDE INDEPENDENT REVIEW OF YOUR OWN.

>> CORRECT, WE DO THAT EVERY THREE YEARS, YES. YEAH, IT WE'LL BE UP FOR A

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REVIEW. >> I SAW THE FOOT NOTE. >>> WE'RE UP FOR A REVIEW FOR NEXT YEAR. SO, AND THAT IS ACTUALLY INCLUDED IN OUR ENGAGEMENT LETTER THEY'RE LETTER IS PUBLIC INFORMATION FOR ALL TO HAVE. SO IF THAT ENGAGEMENT LETTER IS IN THE PACKET, Y'ALL HAVE THAT. IT IS IN THE BACK. THERE WERE NO FINDINGS.

>> GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT. THANK YOU Y'ALL VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT. >> GREAT, THANK YOU. I FEEL LIKE THERE IS A ROUND OF APPLAUSE NEEDED FOR OUR AWESOME FINANCES, RIGHT? ALL RIGHT, SO I'M GOING TO ASK

[2. Child Safety Program update and Proposed FY 2023 Program Budget. Tiffa...]

PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE CHILD SAFETY FUND FOR THIS YEAR. >>> ALL RIGHT, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I'M EXCITED TO NIGHT TO PROVIDE YOU AN UPDATE ON THIS CURRENT YEAR'S PROGRAM OVERVIEW AS WELL AS OUR PROPOSED BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023.

I'M GOING COVER THE CHILD SAFETY GRANT PROGRAM, THE CHILD PASSENGER PROGRAM AND THEN OUR PROPOSED PROGRAM BUDGET. OUR INTERNAL COMMITTEE IS FEATURED HERE ON THE SCREEN WHICH IS COMPRISED OF INTERNAL DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY OF VICTORIA A COUPLE OF FOLKS FROM FINANCE, MYSELF, RUBDY AND SERGEANT BERNARD EARLIER HERE THIS EVENING FOR US FOR THE RECOGNITION PIECE. WE ARE ALSO GOING TO GET SOME ASSISTANCE FROM VICTORIA WHO IS ALSO ONE OF THE GRANT SPECIALISTS WITHIN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT.

SO OUR PERFORMANCE METRICS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022 TO DATE, WE HAVE HAD TWO OF OUR GRANT RECIPIENTS RECEIVE COMPLETE REIMBURSEMENTS WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR TWO ADDITIONAL ONES THEY HAVE THROUGH THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR TO COMPLY AND SUBMIT DOCUMENT 8 FOR REIMBURSEMENT REQUESTS. THERE ARE STILL TWO PENDING REIMBURSEMENT DEADLINES THAT THEY HAVE YET LEFT FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR. OF THE TWO THAT HAVE SUBMITTED THEIR COMPLETED DOCUMENT 8 AND RECEIVED REIMBURSEMENT THERE HAVE BEEN JUST OVER 1,000 CHILDREN SERVED AS WELL AS UNITS OF SERVICE PROVIDED TO THOSE CHILDREN.

33 VEERS HAVE BEEN UTILIZE -- VOLUNTEERS HAVE BEEN UTILIZED IN THEIR PROGRAM PERFORMING OVER 333 HOURS OF VOLUNTEER HOURS WITHIN THOSE TWO ORGANIZATIONS AND EARLIER THIS EVENING AS YOU SAW WE HAVE HEN NEW CHILD SAFETY PASSENGER TECHNICIANS AS A RESULT OF TRAINING CONDUCTED EARLIER THIS YEAR, LAST MONTH ABOUT THIS TIME SO JUST RAE MINDER ABOUT HOW THE GRANT AND AWARD PROGRAM WORKS FOR THE CHILD SAFETY GRANT PROGRAM. THE ORGANIZATIONS APPLYING FOR THIS GRANT ARE NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THAT OPERATE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF VICTORIA BUT NOT NECESSARILY EXCLUESIVELY WHEN THEY SUBMIT THEIR APPLICATION THEY DO HAVE TO PROVIDE DATA ON IF CHILDREN THAT ARE SERVED WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS AND SONA IS THE NUMBERS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. ALTHOUGH THEY MAY SERVE A GREATER AREA, THEY'RE PROVIDING INFORMATION ABOUT CHILDREN THAT THEY SERVE THAT LIVE EXCLUESIVELY WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. AND THEN THEY ALSO HAVE TO QUALIFYFOR THE ELIGIBLE USE CATEGORY, THE ELIGIBLE USE CATEGORIES FOR THIS PROGRAM INCLUDE CHILD SAFETY ABUSE INTERVENTION AND PREVENTION AND DRUG AND ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE INTERVENTION PREVENTION THOSE ARE THE TYPES THAT NEED TO BE TO BE ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE FUNDS. AND THEN ADDITIONALLY WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT THE GRANTS OF THINGS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT RELATED TO THAT INCLUDE WORK SHOP ATTENDANCE, SO DURING THE APPLICATION PERIOD, WE DO OFFER WORKSHOPS TO GIVE THEM INFORMATION ABOUT HOW THE GRANT PROGRAM WORKS AND HOW THE DOCUMENT 8 NEEDS TO BE SUBMITTED FOR REIMBURSE NBC. DOCUMENT COMPLIANCE, CREDIBLE AND TRANSPARENCY OF THE PROVIDED DOCUMENTS AND THEN ADDITIONALLY UNITS OF SERVICE PROVIDED, NUMBER OF CHILDREN SERVED IF THEY ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THE USE CATEGORY, THE DIRECT SERVICE DRUG DELIVERY SCORE WHICH I'LL EXPAND ON BRIEFLY WHEN I TALK OBTAIN THE FORM REQUIREMENTS AND THEN WE'RE ALSO GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE PRIOR USE OF FUNDS. SO WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT, DID THEY GET AWARDED A GRANT THAT THE PRIOR YEAR? AND DID THEY GET THAT REIMBURSEMENT AND USE THOSE FUNDS EFFICIENTLY. SO WE'LL TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 23 PROGRAM. SO THE FORM REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE FOR THIS HERE, WE HAVE A BRIEF APPLICATION THAT THEY FILL OUT IN ADDITION TO A PROGRAM BUDGET FORM.

THEY DO ALSO PROVIDE THEIR IRS 990 FORM THIS FORM HAS BEEN HELPFUL FOR US AS IT DOES HELP TO SHOW THE TRANSPARENCY OF THE ORGANIZATION. IT ALSO IS A FRAUD PREVENTION TOOL FOR US, SO WE'RE ABLE TO DWHREULZ TO ENSURE THAT THEY DO OPERATE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.

AND THEIR ORGANIZATIONAL CHART FOR THAT PARTICULAR ORGANIZATION.

AND THEN THAT IS ALSO WHERE WE OBTAIN THE DIRECT DELIVERY SCORE.

WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW MUCH OF THE FUNDING THAT THEY EXPEND GOES DIRECTLY INTO THE PROGRAM THAT THEY'RE OFFERING. AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO GATHER THAT INFORMATION FROM THE 990

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FORM. SINCE ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS IS A NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION, THIS FORM HELPS TO VERIFY. THAT WE HELP THEM SUBMIT AS IRS EXEMPT DESIGNATION LETTER.

THIS IS OUR PROPOSED APPLICATION TIMELINE. WE WOULD ANTICIPATE APPLICATIONS OPENING UP LATER THIS MONTH, AUGUST 15TH, DURING THAT TIME PERIOD FROM AUGUST 15TH TO SEPTEMBER 2ND, THERE WILL BE THREE APPLICANT WORKSHOP, I'LL OFFER THEM A HYBRID FORMAT TO COME IN PERSON OR ATTEND VIRTUALLY. AND APPLICATIONS WILL THEN CLOSE SEPTEMBER 2ND, WE WILL THEN REVIEW THOSE APPLICANTS WITH THE COMMITTEE AND MAKE FUNDING NOTIFICATIONS BY SEPTEMBER 8TH, THEY WILL HAVE ABOUT A WEEK TO APPEAL THAT DECISION. AND THEN WE WILL COME BACK TO COUNCIL WITH THE RECOMMEND 8S FROM THE COMMITTEE 92 IS OUR PROPOSED TIMELINE FOR THE GRANT PROGRAM AND THEN HERE IS JUST AN OVERVIEW OF THE CHILD PASSENGER SAFETY TECHNICIAN PROGRAM. BACK IN MAY WE HAD ELEVEN NEWLY CERTIFIED TECHNICIANS THAT WENT THROUGH A 3-DAY TRAINING. IT WAS A 30-HOUR TRAINING ALMOST TEN HOURS EACH DAY. WE DID HAVE PARTICIPATION FROM FIVE DIFFERENT COUNTY, A TOTAL OF 19 ACTUALLY GOT CERTIFIED ON THIS DAY THERE WERE SEVERAL FROM SURROUNDING COUNTIES THAT ATTENDED THIS WITH US FROM AROUND THIS GENERAL AREA. WE ALSO PARTNERED WITH THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION SO WE HAD OUR TRAFFIC SAFETY SPECIALIST TERESA PARMA WAS HELPING WITH US THAT AND TEXAS A & M PASSENGER LIFE CAME DOWN FROM COLLEGE STATION TO CONDUCT THE TRAINING AND SO WE DID HAVE A GOOD ATTENDANCE FROM THAT AND ABLE TO HAVE SEVERAL NEW TECHNICIANS IN THIS AREA TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF CHILDREN. NOW THE 11 CERTIFIED WERE THE ONES FROM THE CITY OF VICTORIA FUNDING THE OTHER AGENCIES RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN FEES ASSOCIATED WITH ATTENDING THE TRAINING. AND SO, BUT JUST TO SHOW IT DID GENERATE SOME PEOPLE COMING HERE TO THE AREA TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT PARTICULAR TRAINING.

IT WAS NICE TO HAVE IT BROUGHT HERE TO VICTORIA WE HOSTED IT AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER.

>> WHAT IS IT THAT THEY DO? >> SO THE PURPOSE OF THE CHILD PASSENGER SAFETY TECHNICIAN IS WE'RE EDUCATORS AND SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE DO IS AID PARENTS AND CAREGIVERS ON HOW TO PROPERLY USE CAR SEATS AND ENSURE THAT THEY'RE ALSO ABLE TO PROPERLY USE AND INSTALL THOSE CAR SEATS WHEN WEAR NOT THERE TO ASSIST THEM. WE ALSO AND I'LL HIGHLIGHT AN INSPECTION EVENT THAT HAPPENED THAT DAY. THAT IS ACTUALLY THE NEXT SLIDE HERE. AS PART OF THAT CERTIFICATION WE DID HAVE TO INSTALL I SAY INSTALL BUT PROPERLY EDUCATE THE CAREGIVERS THAT CAME THROUGH TO USE THOSE TO ENSURE THEY KNOW HOW TO AND LOOKING FOR THINGS SUCH AS EXPIRATION DATES ON THOSE TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE NOT EXPIREED AND SHOWING THEM HOW THEY CAN LOOK THAT INFORMATION UP, SHOWING THEM HOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT SIZE CAR SEAT THEY NEED, BASED ON THE AGE/WEIGHT OF THEIR CHILD, DOES IT NEED TO BE REAR-FACING, FORWARD-FACING, A BOOSTER? I LEARNED A LOT I KNOW ABOUT AND I HAVE A 13-YEAR-OLD AND I HOPE SHE WAS PROPERLY RESTRAINED SHE IS STILL HERE THAT SOMEONE THING THAT IS GOOD. THAT IS REALLY WHAT THE PURPOSE IS, THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE EDUCATOR AND NOT INSTALLERS. WE'RE THERE TO EDUCATE AND HELP OTHERS HOW TO PROPERLY USE THOSE. AND WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON BECOMING WHAT IS CALLED A FIT STATION. SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT THAT MEANS IS PEOPLE CAN CONTACT US TO SCHEDULE AN APPOINTMENT TO SEE IF THEIR CAR SEAT IS PROPERLY INSTALLED. AND WE'RE WORKING ON THOSE DETAILS NOW.

>> SO OUT OF THE 24 INSPECTIONS NONE HAD CHILDREN PROPERLY RESTRAINED?

>> CORRECT. ALL THOSE THAT ARRIVED DID NOT HAVE THEIR CHILDREN PROPERLY RESTRAINED DURING THAT EVENT. WE HAD TO HAVE AT LEAST 19 CHILDREN COME THROUGH TO GET ALL OF OUR TECHNICIANS CERTIFIED. BUT THAT MEANS, THE SEAT BELTED COULD HAVE BEEN TOO LOOSE, THE SEAT BELTED MAY NOT HAVE BEEN ROUTED CORRECTLY. MANY THINGS WHY ONE MAY OHAVE NOT BEEN PROPERLY RESTRAINEDP. THERE WERE NEW CAR SEATS ISSUED AND IT COULD HAVE BEEN DUE TO THEY WERE DESTROYED, THEY GOT DAMAGED FOR SOME REASON IF SOMEONE DOESN'T KNOW THE HISTORY OF A CAR SEAT, BOUGHT IT FROM A GARAGE SALE, THAT IS NOT GOOD PRACTICE.

AND I CAN EXPANDS A LITTLE BIT ON THE ECONOMIC IMPACT THERE. IS A FORMULA THAT THEY UTILIZE, BUT THE PROPER USES OF CAR CAR SEAT DOES HELP REDUCE COST ASSOCIATED WITH HOSPITAL VISIT, INSURANCE, ET CETERA. AND THEY HAVE A FORMULA THAT THEY UTILIZE FOR THAT I CAN SENT YOU THAT INFORMATION LATER BECAUSE IT IS A QUITE A LENGTHY FORM.

BUT THAT IS ESTIMATED AT A 75% OF CONTINUED USAGE. SO AS LONG AS THEY ESTIMATING

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75% OF THE PEOPLE THAT LEAVE THAT EVENT WILL CONTINUE TO POPPER PROPERLY USE THAT CAR SEAT GOING FORWARD. THAT DOES HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON HELPING TO ENSURE CHILDREN

ARE PROPERLY RESTRAINED IN VEHICLES. >> ACTIVE MY, I HAVE A QUESTION.

>> -- TIFFANY, I HAVE QUESTION. >> WHEN YOU STARTED THE SLIDE YOU HAD TWO OUT OF FOUR APPLICANTS IS THAT THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT ALERT A APPLIED FOR A GRANT.

>>> ALL THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS THAT APPLICANTS THAT APPLIED FOR THE GRANT RECEIVED FUNDING.

WE HAVE TWO SO FAR THAT HAVE COMPLETED THEIR DOCUMENT 8 AND RECEIVED REIMBURSEMENT AND WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR TWO MORE TO SUBMIT THEIR DOCUMENT 8 TO RECEIVE.

THEY STILL HAVEN'T EXPENDED THEIR FUNDS YET. AND SO, BUT ALL THOSE THAT

APPLIED DID RECEIVE GRANT AWARDS. >> ARE THEY GOING BE ELIGIBLE TO

APPLY AGAIN COME AUGUST 15TH OR NOT? >> YES, THEY WILL BE ELIGIBLE TO APPLY AGAIN. I HAVE A IN JULY IS ONE OF MY DEADLINES COMING UP ON FOR IF THIRD QUARTER REPORTING AND FINAL REPORTING IS OCTOBER 20TH.

AND SO THEY CAN CERTAINLY STILL APPLY, FOR THOSE THAT MAY HAVE NOT GOTTEN THEIR REIMBURSEMENTS AT THIS TIME THEY CAN APPLY FOR IT, BUT PRIOR USE OF FUNDS WILL BE CONSIDERED AS PART OF THE NEXT YEAR'S FUNDING ALLOCATIONS. THEY STILL HAVE TIME, THOUGH, TO STILL COMPLETE THEIR EXPENDITURES. I KNOW ONE IS WORKING ON EXSPENDING -- EXPENDING THEIR FUNDS BUT THE OTHER ONE I DON'T THINK STARTED THEIR PROJECT YET WHEN I ASKED AT ENDS OF MAY FROM

ALL FOUR ORGANIZATIONS TO SEE WHERE THEY WERE IN THAT PROCESS. >> OKAY.

>> SO THIS IS OUR FUND COLLECTIONS OVER THE LAST THREE FISCAL YEARS.

THE PROGRAM WE INITIALLY STARTED RECEIVING FUNDS FROM THE COUNTY. THIS IS FROM THE FUNDING FROM VEHICLE REGISTRATIONS. THE FIRST FISCAL YEAR THE FUNDING DIDN'T START -- WE DIDN'T START RECEIVING THAT UNTIL JANUARY OF 2020 WHICH IS WHY THAT IS SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THAN FISCAL YEAR 2021. AND THEN THE CURRENT ONE FISCAL YEAR 2022 THIS SEASON AN ESTIMATED PROJECTION FOR THIS YEAR. WE'RE ANTICIPATING $81,600 FOR THIS YEAR'S FISCAL FUNDING AND SO THAT IS -- WE ARE SEEING AN INCREASE IN THAT THERE IS A COUPLE OF REASONS FOR THAT, THE AMOUNT WENT FROM $1 TO $1.50. AND REGISTRATION REQUIREMENTS WERE LIFTED FOR PER PERIOD OF TIME DURING THE PANDEMIC AND LIFTED APRIL OF LAST YEAR SO THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR THAT WE'RE IN IS A FULL YEAR OR WILL BE A FULL YEAR TO ANTICIPATE WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE GOING FORWARD AS WE CONTINUE RECEIVING THAT FUNDING.

THE FUNDING ALLOCATION IS BASED ON A 60% TOWARDS THE GRANT PROGRAM, 20% FOR THE CAR SEAT PROGRAM, AND THEN 20% TOWARD THE FUND BALANCE. THE AMOUNT THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING HERE FOR THE GRANT PROGRAM IS $48,960. AND THEN FOR THE CAR SEAT PROGRAM, 16,320 AND ADDING THE REMAINING AMOUNT TO THE FUND BALANCE.

THE AMOUNT THAT IS LISTED THERE AT THE BOTTOM, THE $173,112. IT IS ANTICIPATED TO BE THE ENDING FUND BALANCE FOR NEXT YEAR'S FISCAL YEAR BUDGET AND SO AT THE END OF THIS YEAR, BEFORE FISCAL YEAR 2023 WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT AN ENDING FUND BALANCE OF 158,392.

WE STARTED THIS WITH A FUND BALANCE OPPOSED TO NOT HAVING THE FUNDING AVAILABILITY RIGHT AWAYSY WHY WE HAVE A LARGER FUND BALANCE AS WE'RE WANTED TO BUILD UPON THAT FOR YEARS GOING FORWARD. WE KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH MONEY WE'RE LOOKING TO BE ABLE TO EXPEND FOR THESE PARTICULAR PROGRAMS. ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE

FUNDING? >> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THE MAYOR MADE AN IMPORTANT POINT ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO CAME AND THEIR CHILDREN WERE NOT SECURED PROPERLY.

A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING WHEN THEY PUT THE CAR SEAT IN THE CAR.

AND YOUR PROGRAM IS VERY IMPORTANT AND I WOULD STRESS THAT MORE PEOPLE NEED TO COME AND VISIT YOU AND YOUR TRAINERS BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE DO NOT RESTRAIN THEIR CHILDREN PROPERLY IN A CAR. IT IS -- YOU THINK YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING, BUT YOU DON'T.

>>> YES, I LEARNED QUITE A BIT FROM THAT. I WAS A LITTLE STRESSED IDENTITY THERE FOR A LITTLE BIT, I WAS LIKE HAVE I DONE THIS WRONG MY WHOLE LIFE.

I AM GLAD WE HAVE THIS PROGRAM, SOMETHING I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT AND GLAD WE'VE BEEN GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY AND SUPPORT FROM YOU ALL FOR HAVING THAT PART OF THE PROGRAM.

WE LIKE THE GRANT PROGRAM HERE AS WELL AS WE'RE ABLE TO HELP AS MANY AS POSSIBLE WITH REGARDS TO

THE FUNDING THAT MAY BE NEEDED FOR THEIR ORGANIZATIONS. >> I HAVE A QUESTION.

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SO THE MIDDLE NUMBER, THE $16,320 FOR THE CAR SEAT BUDGET WHICH IS AN INCREASE, I MEAN INCREASE SOUNDS GOOD, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND THEN THE NUMBER MAYBE ON THE PREVIOUS SCREEN

ABOUT THE INSPECTIONS WITH THE $35,000 IMPACT. >> YES, SO THE INCREASE THAT YOU'RE SEEING THERE, THAT IS AN INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR'S PROGRAM BUDGET SO LAST YEAR'S PROGRAM BUDGET, WE STARTED WITH, WE USE A $50,000 BASELINE AS OUR STARTING BUDGET.

THAT WAS BASED ON FUNDING THAT WE RECEIVED IN PART OF OF FISCAL YEAR 2020, AND 2021.

THAT IS WHAT THAT INCREASES AND SO LAST YEAR'S CAR SEAT PROGRAM BUDGET WAS $10,000, WHICH IS THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR THAT WE'RE IN. AND THEN LAST YEAR, WE USED $30,000 TOWARDS THE GRANT PROGRAM. THAT IS WHAT THOSE INCREASES ARE. THE ECONOMIC IMPACT WHICH IS THAT $35,000, THAT IS A NUMBER THAT TEXAS A&M AGROLIFE PROGRAM GAVE US. AND THAT NUMBER IS ESSENTIALLY THE PROPER USE OF CAR SEAT REDUCES THE RICK OF INJURY AND DEATH LEADING TO REDUCED MEDICAL COST, AVOIDANCE OF LOSS OF FUTURE EARNINGS OR LIFE. AND FINANCIAL AMOUNT TIED TO THE AGE OF THE CHILD AND ALSO BASED ON NUMBER OF SEATS DISTRIBUTED. BASED ON A CONTINUED CORRECTED ASSUMED 75% CONTINUED USAGE OF THE PARTICULAR CAR SEAT. THAT IS WHERE THE 35,382 IMPACT

COMES FROM. >> TIFFANY, YOU SAID THAT NOW THAT YOU'VE GOT ALL THESE PEOPLE CERTIFIED, THEY CAN GO SOMEWHERE. HOW DO THEY CONTACT YOU? I MEAN YOU'RE MUNICIPAL COURT. THEY DON'T COME FOR MUNICIPAL COURT WHERE DO THEY GO? IS THERE A PHONE THEY CAN CONTACT YOU? MAKE AN APPOINTMENT?

HOW DOES THIS WORK? >> YES, EHAVE CERTIFIED TECHCIANS IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, FIRE DEPARTMENT AND CREATED A FORM ON-LINE, VICTORIATX.GOV/CARSEAT AND THEY CAN FILL THAT OUT AND COME OOUR E-MAILS AND SCHEDULE AN APPOINTMENT.

THEY CAN CONTACT US AT MUNICIPAL COURT 361-485-3050. AND OUR STAFF KNOWS HOW TO WALK THEM THROUGH TO GET THEM SIGNED UP FOR THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH TEXAS A&M AGROLIFE TO BECOME A DESIGNATED FIT STATION, ANY OF OUR DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE TECHNICIANS CAN BE PART OF THIS IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE HALLWAY, WE DO HAVE CAR SEATS STILL ON HAND.

WE'RE ABLE TO FOR USE THAT AS PART OF THAT PROGRAM IF SOMEONE IS IN NEED OF ONE AND THEY ARE THE PRIME MARRY CAREGIVER. THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS ON THAT BUT HAVE THAT AVAILABLE AS A

RESOURCE GOING FORWARD. >> SO IF THEY HAVE THE WRONG ONE FOR THE WRONG, I MEAN FOR THEIR AGE AND THEY'RE NOT AGE APPROPRIATE THEY CAN COME AND ASK Y'ALL.

>>> YES, THEY CAN COME AND ESSENTIALLY GET TO -- WE'VE BEEN CONDUCTING THEM CURRENTLY IN THE PARKING LOT, WE'VE HAD AT LEAST THREE OR FOUR THAT HAVE COME BY SINCE WE'VE BECOME CERTIFIED.

WE WERE ABLE TO GO THROUGHOUT AND HELP EDUCATE THEM ON HOW TO PROPERLY USE IT AND FLIERS WITH INFORMATION ON THAT AS WELL TO HELP THEM UTILIZE KNOW WHICH ONE THEY NEED AND HELP GIVE THEM THE

BEST PRACTICE INFORMATION. >> THE NUMBER THAT YOU USED EARLIER FOR THE PEOPLE THAT CAME FOR THE INSPECTION, YOU HAD 24. WAS THAT 100% OF THE PEOPLE THAT CAME THROUGH?

>> YES. SO WE HAVE. >> IF YOU HAVE 100% THAT DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE IT AND I INCLUDE MYSELF, YOU HAVE 100% OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT DON'T KNOW HOW TO

USE THE CAR SEATS PROPERLY. >> SO WE PLAN ON HAVING -- WE PLAN ON HOSTING MORE EVENTS SUCH AS THIS. IT IS A LITTLE HOT IN THE SUMMER-TYPE, AND SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR LOCATIONS IN THE FALL OR POTENTIALLY USING IN THE COMMUNITY CENTER WHERE YOU CAN DRIVE THROUGH. THAT IS A GREAT PLACE SINCE IT IS SHADED.

WE'LL HAVE FUTURE EVENTS. I KNOW IN SEPTEMBER THERE IS A CHILD SAFETY PASSENGER WEEK.

SO I PLAN ON TRYING TO COORDINATE SOME SORT OF EVENT TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND CONTINUE TO DO THAT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AND MAKE THE SERVICE AVAILABLE.

IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ONLY HAD TWO WITHIN OUR CITY FOR A LONG TIME AND THIS IS A GREAT

RESOURCE TO BRING THAT TO MORE BETWEEN CITY. >> WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO

PARTNER WITH THE HOSPITALS THAT OFFER THE LA MAZE CLASS? >> WE'VE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT AS WELL, BECAUSE HOSPITAL DOS NOT HAVE CERTIFIED TECHNICIANS. I KNOW THE KOWRCHLTTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT DOES HAVE A COUPLE. THEY'RE EXCITED WE HAVE THIS BECAUSE THERE AREN'T VERY MANY IN VICTORIA THERE WERE ONLY SIX PRIOR TO THIS ALL OF OUR TECHNICIANS GOING THROUGH.

SO YES, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE CERTAINLY THOUGHT ABOUT AS THAT WOULD BE GREAT FOR NEW

PARENTS TO KNOW HOW TO DO BEFORE THE BABY IS HERE. >> EVEN THAT OR REACHING OUT TO

THE PEDIATRICIANS IN TOWN. >> IT WILLTURE. >> MANY YEARS AGO I LIVED IN A TOWN IN CALIFORNIA, I THINK MY DAUGHTER WAS F IN THAT TOWN, YOO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THEY

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WOULD TELL YOU HOW TO DO IT. WENT TO ANY FIRE STATION AND THEY WOULD SHOW YOU HOW TO USE YOUR CAR SEAT PROPERLY AND TELL YOU IF YOU HAVE THE RIGHT CAR SEAT.

I BELIEVE IF YOU BOUGHT A CAR SEAT IN THE TOWN THEY HA A FLIER ATTACHED IT TO TOLD YOU TO GO TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE YOUR CAR SEAT WAS PROPERLY INSTALLED.

I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE. >> YES, I'VE SEEN, I'VE LOOKED AT SOME OF THE OTHERS AND I KNOW THERE ARE OTHER POLICE DEPARTMENTS AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS AROUND THAT OFFER THAT. AND SO BY BECOMING A FIT STATION WE'LL BE ABLE TO BE FEATURED ON THERE AS A LOCATION PEOPLE CAN CONTACT, NOT JUST FOR COURT, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE OUR OTHER TWO ENTITIES THAT HAVE TECHNICIANS AS WELL. THERE WILL NOW BE EIGHT WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THREE WITH THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE AND TWO FROM MUNICIPAL COURT.

THAT HAS HELPED TO BROADEN HOW MANY PEOPLE WE CAN ASSIST. SO.

>> I KNOW YOU MAY NOT BE DONE YET, BUT YOU BROUGHT THIS PROGRAM US TO SEVERAL YEARS AGO

AND I REALLY THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> TU YES, I'M VERY GRATEFUL TO HAVE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THIS T SUPPORT FOR THAT THE CAR SEAT PROGRAM IS SOMETHING I'M PERSONALLY VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT AND I'M VERY GRATEFUL I'VE GOT -- WE'VE GOTTEN SUPPORT FOR THAT TO OFFER THAT.

AND I'M DONE. SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> THANK YOU, MS. TOTAH.

GREAT JOB. >>> CAN WE APPLAUD? [APPLAUSE]

>> EVERYBODY ELSE HAS STAYED WITHIN 15 MINUTES. >> YEAH.

>>> YOU MAY NOT GET THE APPLAUSE. >>> DID YOU DISDON'T QUESTIONS

FROM THAT? >> YES. AND THEY'RE STILL WAY UNDER.

I HOPE THIS TOPIC GARNERS AS MANY QUESTIONS. THAT WAS A BAD JOKE.

[3. Capital Improvement Plan & Implementation Update . Jesús A. Garza,...]

SO I'M GOING BE SPEAKING TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

WE DISCUSSED THERE WILL POTENTIALLY BE AN IMPACT TO IT BECAUSE OF SEVERAL FACTORS.

I'M GOING TO SAVE THAT PART TO THE END OF THE PRESENT 8. BUT REALLY, FOCUS ON WHAT I ELUDED TO WHEN MEETING IN MAY THAT IN ORDER TO BE EFFECTIVE AT THE IMPLEMENT 8 OF IT, WE NEED TO REVISIT THE STAFFING MODEL AROUND IT. IT IS NO SECRET AND NO SURPRISE THAT OUR CURRENT ITERATION OF OUR CIP INVESTS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE MONEY IN THE STREETS WE HAVE GOALS OF REACHING 112 MILES OF STREETS WHICH WAS LITERALLY A FIN% INCREASE THE THE PREVIOUS FIVE-YEAR MARK AND SO NATURALLY IT IS REASONABLE TO EXPECT THAT HAVING MORE PROJECTS NEEDS MORE RESOURCES. AND SO WE NOT ONLY ARE GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES THAT WE THINK ARE NEEDED, BUT TALKING OBTAIN A MECHANISM THAT COULD HELP PAY FOR THAT. AND SO I'M GOING TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE REORGANIZATION THAT HITS ON THE STAFF. TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SERVICE FEE MODEL. AND AS PART OF THAT, SHARE WITH YOU HOW WE DO IT NOW, HOW WE PROPOSE TO DO IT AND OF COURSE, OBVIOUSLY THE BENEFITS OF IT. REALLY QUICKLY, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK SOMETIMES QUIET -- SOMETIMES GETS LOST WHEN WE TALK ABOUT IMPLEMENT 8 OF A CIP PROJ CORRECT ARE THE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

WE WANTED TO AS A QUICK REFRESHER REMIND EVERYONE THAT A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS NECESSARY TAIL ALM OF THESE THINGS ON THE LEFT, RIGHT, NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, LITERALLY THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE, RIGHT. THERE IS A LOT OF PLANNING, DESIGN, AND IF WE DESIGN IT IN-HOUSE THERE IS THAT. IF THERE IS AN OUTSIDE PARTY THAT DESIGNS IT, THAT IS GREAT BUT STILL MANAGEMENT THAT TAKES PLACE IN THAT RELATIONSHIP. AND OF COURSE, THE EXECUTION, INSPECTION, CONTRACT OVERSIGHT THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT SO THERE IS A LOT THAT GOES INTO IT.

CURRENTLY A LABOR OF LOVE. OBVIOUSLY YOU SEE IT A COMBINATION OF DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND IT WILL ALWAYS BE. THAT IT THIS SEASON INTENDED TO REMOVE PURCHASING FROM THE EQUATION AS AN EXAMPLE. IT IS NOT INTENDED TO REMOVE JULIE AND HER TEAM FROM THE EQUATION BUT IT IS INTENDED ON FOCUSING ON WHAT THE CIP DIVISION IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOCUSED ON AND BEEF THOSE UP. HERE ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE YOU SEE CURRENTLY WHAT OUR STRUCTURE IS. AND CURRENTLY, KEN, SERVE AS CITY ENGINEER. THE MODEL HISTORICALLY HAS DIFFERED.

THIS IS HOW IT IS NOW, WE ADDED A CIP MANAGER POSITION A COUPLE OFFICE CAL YEARS AGO WITH TODD JERISH HELD THAT POSITION AND HE HELPED US FORM LATE THE PROGRAM TO WHERE IT IS AT NOW, WE HAVE ONE IN-HOUSE DESIGN ENGINEER AND ONE IN-HOUSE ENGINEER TECHNICIAN AND INSPECTORS THAT GO OUT AND CONFIRM ALL OF THE WORK THAT CONTRACTORS ARE DOING AND A CONTRACT SPECIALIST THAT JUST

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HELPS WITH A LOT OF THE PROJECTS JUST SORT OF HANDLING THE SHEPHERDING THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS. WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS WHAT WHERE SEE ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE. WE'RE PROPOSING TO SEPARATE THE DIRECTOR AND CITY ENGINEER FUNCTION, BRING IN A CITY ENGINEER TO REPORT DIRECTLY TO KEN THIS HELPS WITH SUCCESSION PLANNING. KEN ISN'T GOING TO BE AROUND FOREVER.

AND SO THIS HELPS US LOOK AT BRINGING IN A NEW CITY ENGINEER. >> YEAH, I GET YOUR BACK.

YOU'LL GET YOUR NOTICE BY THE OWNED THE WEEK. A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO BRING IN A GREAT CITY ENGINEER WHILE KEN IS IN HIS PRIME WITH US THIS ALSO LOOKS AT ADDING A SECOND IN-HOUSE DESIGN ENGINEER. AND WE'LL SHOW YOU THE BENEFIT OF THAT IN A LATE SLIDE THIS ALSO ADDS A INSPECTOR TO JUMP THAT UP TO 6, BECAUSE AGAIN, JUST THE VOLUME OF STREET PROJECTS IS INCREASING AND ADDS A RIGHT OF WAY SPECIALIST. WE'VE DISCUSSED HOW IN THE PAST POTENTIALLY SOME PROJECTS HAVE BEEN THE CONVERSATION AROUND SOME PROJECTS HAVE BEEN LIMBED BECAUSE JUST THE PROCESS OF ACQUIRING RIGHT OF WAY AND WE HAVE PROJECTS OVER THE LAST 50 YEARS DID NECESSITATE RIGHT OF WAY AND I THINK YOU HARD ME MENTIONED THE CITY USED TO HAVE A EQUIVALENT OF A RIGHT OF WAY SPECIALIST IN HOUSE AND OVER THE YEARS IT WAS FADED OUT.

AND SO AS WE BEGUN TO DO MORE PROJECTS, AS WE BEGUN TO TACKLE SOME MAJOR THOROUGHFARES, WE THINK THIS WILL BE NEEDED. WE'VE ELIMINATEDDOR RE-- OR REDUCED THE RESPONSIBILITIES THAT TODD HAD. SO THE PREVIOUS MODEL HAD A CIP MANAGER.

WE'VE DOWNGRADED THAT TO A PROJECT MANAGER, BECAUSE OUR VISION IS THE NEW CITY ENGINEER WILL TAKE ON SOME OF THAT HIGHER LEVEL WORK ASSOCIATED WITH STRATEGY DEVELOPMENT OF CIP.

ESPECIALLY SINCE THE NEW CITY ENGINEER WOULD FOCUS ON THE MANAGE PRESIDENT OF THE DIVISION AND NOT HAVE THE ADDITIONAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR EXAMPLE, KEN CURRENTLY HAS.

RIGHT. WE DO NOT THINK THESE POSITIONS ARE NEEDED ALL RIGHT AWAY.

AND SO WE'VE DEVELOPED A PHASING MODEL THAT HAS TWO POSITIONS ADDED IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR BUDGE, CITY ENGINEER AND DESIGN ENGINEER AND THE REMAINING 3 WE WOULD LOOK AT PHASING IN OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS AS WE EMBARK ON LARGER PROJECTS THAT ARE SCHEDULED TOWARDS THE ENDS OF THE PLANNING WINDOW. SO HOW MUCH DOES IT COST, RIGHT? I'M GOING TO SPEND A MINUTE HOW MUCH IT COSTS AND HOW WE FUND IT NOW TO HELP PAINT THE PICTURE ON THE BIG CHANGE HOW WE PROPOSE FUNDING IT. CURRENTLY S IT IS $1.2 MILLION AND YOU CAN SEE HOW THE PROGRESSION OOVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS ON TOTAL COST OF THE CIP DIVISION AS WE ADD THOSE POSITIONS, RIGHT? PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. WE'RE PROPOSING A SERVICE FEE.

AND I WON'T SPENDS TOO MUCH TIME ON THIS BUT IN ESSENCE THE SERVICE FEE IS A MECHANISM WE CAN APPLY TOWARDS PROJECTS THEMSELVES AS A WAY TO PAY FOR THE MANAGEMENT OF THAT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. YOU'LL SEE NEAR A SLIDE THAT HISTORICCHY WE'VE DONE ALLOCATIONS FROM UTILITY FUND AND HAVEN'T BEEN ANY SPECIFIC TIEBACK TO A SPECIFIC PROJECT.

WE WANT TO LOOK AT BEGINNING TO CHANGE THAT. SO CURRENT WHY AS I MENTIONED, CURRENTLY THE COST FOR THIS DIVISION IS $1.2 MILLION. NOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ALSO TOOK A DEEP DIVE IN IS TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH TIME THE PEOPLE IN THIS DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY SPEND ON CAPITAL PROJECTS. BECAUSE OUR OTHER THINGS THAT THEY DO FOR OTHER DEPARTMENTS. AND SO OR FOR PUBLIC WORKS IN GENERAL.

AND SO WHAT WE DETERMINED IS THAT ROUGHLY 74% OF THAT 1.2 MILLION IS ACTUALLY DEDICATED TO THE CIP, WHICH EQUATES TO $887. AND THE WAY THAT IS FUNNED YOU CAN SEE ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE WHICH IS A COMBINATION OF A LUMP-SUM OF THE GENERAL FUND, LUMP-SUM OF UTILITY FUND, AND A LUMP-SUM FROM VSTDC. THIS VSTDC PORTION IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT TYPICALLY, THIS IS A ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE GENERAL FUNDS.

YOU'LL NOTICE HOW AT THE BOTTOM ON THE TABLE YOU'LL SEE THAT THE GENERAL FUND IS A GREATER AMOUNT

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THAT WHAT WE SHOW ABOVE, BUT THAT IS BECAUSE WE MAKE IT UP WHEN WE RECEIVE THE MONEY FROM VSTDC. WE DON'T ENVISION CHANGING THIS AT THIS POINT, BUT THAT $300 USE THIS THE CITY RECEIVES FROM VSTDC STEMS FROM AN VIETNAM THAT HAS BEEN IN PLACE SINCE THE LATE' 90 THAT IS INTENDED TO ACCOUNT FOR OVERSIGHT PROJECTS, LEGAL SERVICES, FINANCIAL SERVICES AND SOME OTHER BASIC ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES THAT THE CITY PROVIDES VSTDC.

THAT 300,000 ISN'T INTENDED TO BE SOLELY UTILIZED FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS BUT WE'VE GIVEN THAT AMOUNT TO THE EQUATION NONETHELESS. AT SOME POINT WE WOULD HAVE TO REVISIT THAT PART. I FLOW IS A TABLE THERE WITH A BUNCH OF NUMBERS BUT THE TAKEAWAY IS HOW IT IS FUNDED NOW WHICH IS DIRECT ALLOCATION FROM THE DIFFERENT FUNDS.

SO WHEN WE STARTED LOOKING AT THE CIP, AS YOU KNOW THE CIP VARIES YEAR OVER YEAR, THE BEST WAY TO FIND A SIMPLE WAY TO DO THIS WAS TO COME UP WITH AN AVERAGE AND ON AVERAGE, THAT FIVE-YEAR PLANNING WINDOW EXPENDS $28.5 MILLION AND THAT GIVES YOU A SENSE OF WE'RE WHERE ALL THAT MONEY COMES FROM. AND SO UNDER THE CURRENT MODEL WHERE WE SIMPLY FUNDED FROM GENERAL FUND, UTILITY FUND AND VSTDC, YOU'LL NOTICE THERE ARE PROJECTS FUNDED FOR BY BONDS, THIRD PARTY CONTRIBUTIONS, GRANTS, ET CETERA, THAT DON'T CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS THE ADMINISTRATION OR MANAGEMENT OF THAT CIP PROJECT. AND SO THAT IS WHY YOU SEE THAT GAP OR VOID IN THE MIDDLE, BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE PROJECTS FUNDED BY BONDS, THE OVERSIGHT OF THOSE PROJECTS ISN'T COMING FROM BONDS IT IS COMING FROM GENERAL FUND, UTILITY FUND. THAT IS THE BIG TAKEAWAY HERE. THE OTHER TAKEAWAY IS THE PERCENTAGES THAT YOU SEE ON THE I GUESS ON THE SPLIT THAT GIVES YOU A SENSE OF WHERE WE'RE LEANING ON AND THAT SPLIT REALLY ISN'T BASED OFF OF PROJECTS. PER SE.

WE WANT TO CHANGE ALL THAT. WE WANT TO MAKE IT TO WHERE IT IS TIED TO PROJECTS.

SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS TO INCORPORATE A FEE TO PROJECTS. AND SO EXPENSE ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE SEEMS HIGHER BECAUSE IT IS. BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE PROPOTION WOULD GO INTO EFFECT NEXT YEAR.

AND SO YOU MAY RECALL THAT THE COST FOR CURRENT WAS $1.2, SO THE COST FOR FISCAL YEAR' 23 ADDS UP TO $1.4. SUBSEQUENTLY THE PORTION ASSOCIATED WITH THE CIP JUMPS UP TO ROUGHLY A MILLION DOLLAR FROM THE PREVIOUS AMOUNT. AND YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE HOW WE'VE SPLIT THAT OUT DIFFERENT. WE'VE ADDED BONDS TO THAT WHICH IS $287,000. AND I'M GOING TO SORT OF WALK THROUGH THAT HERE IN A BIT.

BUT THE POINT IS WE'RE DIVERSIFYING WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM SO THAT WE BETTER LEVERAGE AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WHERE THE SOURCE OF THE FUNDS ARE COMING FROM.

SO YOU SEE IN THIS IMAGE HOW THAT VOID NO LONGER INCLUDES BOND COSTS.

BECAUSE NOW WE WOULD ACTUALLY BE LOOKING AT GETTING SOME EXPENSES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

NOW ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF THIS IF WE WANT TO SEE IT AS THAT IS THAT THE FUNDING AMOUNT FROM THE GENERAL FUND OR COV COST GOES DOWN, BECAUSE NOW WE'RE LEVERAGING, ACCESSING SOME BONDS. I KNOW THAT IS A LOT OF NUMBERS I'M TRYING TO FOCUS ON THE

IMPORTANT PART. >> SO YOU'RE SHIFTING SOME OF THE BURDEN FROM CASH TO BONDS?

>> I GUESS INS SENSE. -- IN ESSENCE. >> IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT THAT WAY, THAT WOULD BE AN ACCURATE STATEMENT, WE HAVE CASH ON HAND THAT WE TRANSFER TO PAY FOR STAFF AND BY IMPLEMENTING THE SERVICE FEE MODEL WE WOULD BE CHARGING BACK PROJECTS THAT WOULD BE DESIGN WORK AND OTHER SERVICES, SURVEYING AND ET CETERA, RIGHT.

SO FOR ANYBODY THAT MIGHT BE TUNING IN THINKING THAT THIS IS A FOREIGN CONCEPT FOR US THAT WE WOULD ISSUE DEBT FOR SOME PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, WE DO THAT ALREADY.

WE SIMPLY OUTSOURCE A LOT OF IT AND SO WE'RE SIMPLY SUGGESTING THAT WE LOOK AT DOING SOME OF

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THAT TO HELP PAY FOR OUR OWN OPERATION AND I HAVE A FUTURE SLIDE WHAT POTENTIAL SAVINGS THAT MIGHT BRING TO THE PROGRAM IF WE DID THAT, RIGHT? SO ON ONE HAND WE'RE GOING TO BE ISSUING DOABTD PAY FOR THIS OPERATION, THE FACT THAT WE HAVE MORE, YOU KNOW, IN-HOUSE DESIGN ENGINEERS, FOR EXAMPLE, WOULD HELP US SAVE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS BY NOT HAVING TO OUTSOURCE AS MANY PROJECTS, RIGHT. SO IT IS A WIN FROM THE FINANCIAL STANDPOINT EVEN THOUGH

IT IS BEING FUNDED THROUGH THE ISSUANCE OF DEBT. >> CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE

BEFORE THAT ONE. >> BEFORE THIS ONE? >> YES, SIR.

NO, ONE MORE. NO. THE ONE THAT DIDN'T SHOW THE

BONDS IN THERE. >> THIS ONE DOESN'T SHOW BONDS IN THERE.

>> IT IS STILL $28 MILLION AND. >> THIS IS FROM CURRENT. >> I'M SORRY, COV PROJECTED, I'M ALL OVER THE PLACE, I BLAME GILBERT. IN THEORY, BECAUSE WE'RE ADDING STAFF IT ACTUALLY FLUCTUATES TO A HIGHER AMOUNT. BUT IN THEORY WE'RE REDUCING THE

DEPENDANCY ON OUR OWN CASH. >> CAN I ADD ONE THING MR. MANAGER?

>> YEAH, GO FOR IT. YOU PUT THIS TOGETHER. >> NO, NO, NO, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE ESPECIALLY FOR THE PUBLIC THAT AS YOU WELL KNOW, WE HAD THESE BUDGET AMOUNTS FOR CIP DIVISION IN OUR BUDGE FOR YEARS, WE OPERATE AND EVERYTHING ELSE. THE BIG DIFFERENCE HERE AND PRIOR YEARS WE NEVER CAPITALIZED THAT COST, BUT ONCE WE START DOING THIS, OF COURSE, I'M REQUIRED BY LAW, IRS, REGULATIONS TO START CAPITALIZING THAT COST WITHIN THE ASSET. AT FIRST IT WAS A CASH FLOW, NOW I'M USING BONDS TO PAY FOR SOME OF THESE COST OPERATIONS. I WILL HAVE TO CAPITALIZE LIKE IF WE GO OUT AND HIRE SOMEBODY TO DO SUPERVISION OR ANYTHING ELSE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT UNDERSTOOD. THERE IS A LITTLE DIFFERENCE THERE.

BUT THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY MR. GARZA. >> THAT IS A GOOD POINT, YES,

MA'AM. >> WHO PAYS THE CIP SERVICING SERVICES FEE IN.

>> THE PROJECT. >> THE PROJECT. >> SOMEWHERE SO WE WOULD, WE WOULD PAY OURSELVES IN ESSENCE IS HOW THAT WOULD WORKING RIGHT? AND SO YOU MAY RECALL WHEN I BRIEFLY MENTIONED IT AT THE SECOND MEETING IN MAY THAT ONE OF THE FACTORS THAT WAS GOING LEAD TO CHANGING THE CIP FIGURES BEFORE THEY'RE FINALIZED IN AUGUST IS THE INCORPORATION OF POTENTIALLY THIS. BECAUSE THIS WILL ADD A SMALL FIGURE TO THAT.

SO WE WOULD PAY OURSELVES. >> SO WHEN WE APPROVE A PROJECT, IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE -- LIKE WHEN WE APPROVE A CONTRACTOR THIS CIP FEE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE ON THAT ITEM WHEN WE APPROVE A CONTRACT WITH A CONTRACTOR, IT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL FEE THAT WOULD BE IN

OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN. >>> CORRECT. >> THIS WOULDN'T IMPACT ANY CONTRACTUAL RELATIONSHIP WITH ANY CONTRACTOR. THIS WOULD BE MORE OF A BUDGETING TOOL THAT WE WOULD TAKE INTO ACCOUNT BEFORE WE ITS SHOE THE -- WE ISSUE THE DEBT

AND REDIRECT IT ACCORDINGLY. >> THANK YOU, THAT CLICKED IT ON.

>> THIS IS THE SLIDE I WANT TO SEE PLAY, JUST TO SHOW PEOPLE AND GOVERNMENT AGENCIES WE HAVE A POLICY TO ALLOW US TO DO THIS TECHNICALLY. BE PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS, I

ASSUME. >> YEP. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THIS SLIDE GIVES YOU A SENSE, OF COURSE, IT IS NOT APPLES-TO-APPLES COMPARISON, BUT THERE IS A LOT OF, YOU CAN DELVE INTO THE DETAILS, RIGHT. WE WANT TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WHEN WE OUTSOURCE ENGINEERING SERVICES ON THESE PROJECTS AND THE EXPENSE OF HIRING AN ADDITIONAL IN-HOUSE ENGINEER AND WHAT THAT POTENTIALLY LOOKS LIKE, RIGHT? SO YOU'LL NOTICE THERE WHAT IT COSTS US TO OUTSOURCE ENGINEERING SERVICES AND WHAT THE COST IS FOR US TO SIMPLY JUST TO ADD AN IN-HOUSE ENGINEER.

NOW I GET THERE IS MORE TO IT , BUT THIS AT LEAST GIVES YOU A SENSE OF THE BENEFIT THAT COULD COME FROM US DOING MORE IN-HOUSE. NOW OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE OTHER

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PIECES WE WOULD NEVER DO IN-HOUSE, LIKE WE WERE NEVER GOING TO DO SURVEYING ON OUR OWN. THAT IS PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD CONCONTINUE TO OUTSOURCE AS AN EXAMPLE. BUT SPECIFICALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE DESIGN, WE CAN DO THAT IN-HOUSE. WE KNOW IT CAN DO IT IN-HOUSE, THAT ENTIRE PHASED PROJECT WAS DESIGNED IN-HOUSE AND INCLUDED UTILITIES AND STREETS. BUT IT WAS MANAGEABLE FOR US TO DO IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, EACH PHASE WAS ONE STREET, RIGHT? AND SO AS YOU START TO GET INTO LARGER PROJECTS, IT WAS JUST NOT FEASIBLE FOR OUR STAFF IN HOUSE TO DESIGN THESE LARGER PROJECTS.

OBVIOUSLY HAVING THAT ADDITIONAL ENGINEER WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PLAN ACCORDINGLY AND HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO DO THAT. ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE SOMETIMES RUN INTO WITHOUT SOURCING SOME OF THIS WORK IS ON A TIMELINE PART, RIGHT? IT SOMETIMES IT TAKE, YOU KNOW, OVER A YEAR TO DESIGN SOME OF THESE PRONGJECTS AND SO IF WE HAD -- PROJECTS AND IF WE HAD A LITTLE BIT MORE IN-HOUSE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO THAT IN A QUICKER MANNER.

SO IT IS JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT. >>> YOU HAVE A FEEL FOR SOMETHING THAT IS A LITTLE CLOSER TO REALITY ABOUT ENGINEERING RELATED SERVICES SAVINGS? IT IS NOT FAIR TO PUT THOSE NUMBERS UP THERE IN MY OPINION. BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOTHING ABOUT

SUPPORT STAFF IN THERE, RENT, PLOTTERS. >> BUT DOES THAT MATTER ATTENDS OF THE DAY THAT IS THE AMOUNT OF THE CHECK WE'RE CUTTING, THOUGH? RIGHT? IF WE'RE CUTTING A CHECK, RIGHT, FOR $774,000, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT ALL GOES INTO THAT, RIGHT? AND IF OUR INCREASE EXPENSE OF HAVING ADDITIONAL IN HOUSE ENGINEER AT 115, I GET HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADD A FEW MORE THINGS IN THERE TO MAKE IT MORE REALISTIC, SOME PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT COSTS BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT PERSON MAYBE COST OF THEIR OWN EQUIPMENT OR LICENSES, RIGHT? SO THERE PROBABLY IS SOME EXPENSES THAT WE COULD ADD TO THE IN HOUSE THAT WE PROBABLY ISN'T DIDN'T MISS OUT ON SO IF

THAT IS WHAT YOU MEANT, I NOW GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. >> BUT WHEN YOU'RE WRITING THE CHECK TO OUTSOURCE, IT COVERS AN ENTIRE BUSINESS OPERATION. IT DOESN'T JUST COVER ONE

PERSON'S SALARY. >>> RIGHT. ASK I DON'T THINK SAYING THERE IS $2.1 MILLION SAVING BETWEEN THOSE WHEN YOU ADD IT UP IS FAIR.

THERE IS A SAVINGS THERE AND I'M NOT ARGUING THAT. >> OUR INTENT TWOWNT SAY THIS IS SET IN STONE AND THE SAVINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. OUR INTENT WAS TO GIVE YOU SOMETHING TO JUST THINK ABOUT AS IT RELATES TO THE DIFFERENCE OF COSTS.

>> WOULD OUR COSTS BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER? SURE.

>> WHO KNOWS WHAT THE TRUE COST OF THESE OUTSOURCING ENGINEERING SERVICES WOULD BE BE ONCE WE GET TO IT SO THERE IS A LOT OF VARIABLES THERE. AT LEAST HOPEFULLY IT HELPS YOU

GET A SENSE OF THINGS. >> THAT ONE IS ON MANY NOT MR. GARZA.

I WANT TO PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER. IT IS NOT INTENDED TO SAY WE HAVE $2 MILLION IN CASH. I APOLOGIZE AT THE CONCLUSION YOU WALKED AWAY.

>> NOT THAT I'M SAYING THAT WE HAVE THAT AS CASHSH IT IS JUST A THEORETICAL LOOK AT WHAT IT WOULD BE. I'M JUST SAYING COMPARING THOSE TWO NUMBERS NOT EVEN THE SAME NUMBER OR HOW THEY'RE BUILT UPON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT, YOU'VE GOT THE ENGINEER SERVICES IN-HOUSE

THREE TIMES. IS THAT THREE ENGINEER? >> NO.

>> IT IS ONE ENGINEER AND TWO OF THOSE. >> THAT COST IS AN ANNUAL

EXPENSE FOR JUST THAT COST WOULD BE AN ANNUAL EXPENSE FOR US. >> RIGHT.

>> OKAY. >> AND HAVE IT FULL DISCLOSURE, I THIS IS ON ME NOT ■MR. GARZA Y WORK IS ON DIFFERENT PEEL, I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT I'M LOOKING AT THIS ENGINEER AND START WORKING THE PROJECT AHEAD OF TIERNLINGS NOT MAINTAINED SAYING THIS WAS DONE IN ONE YEAR, MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE DONE A BETTER JOB ON THE TABLE BUT THAT WAS THE WHOLE PURPOSE

OF. THE. >> WE CAN MASSAGE THIS BEFORE WE ADOPT A BUDGET AND BEFORE WE ADOPT TECHNICALLY THE FEE AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND MASSAGE SOME OF THIS TO GET A MORE REAL-LIFE PICTURE OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

WE'RE GOING HAVE TO MASSAGE A CIP ANYWAY, SO WE DO HAVE TYPE, YOU KNOW, OVER THE NEXT COUPLE

OF MONTHS TO FIND-TUNE THAT. >>> I UNDERSTAND THE OBJECT TO SAVE MONEY BY DOING IT IN HOUSE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY DEBT -- AND I UNDERSTAND THAT SALES TAX

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ORGANIZATION GIVES $3,000, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY EVEN BRING UP DEBT OR SOME WAY THE REST OF THE FEE NEEDS TO BE PAID FOR, I DON'T KNOW WHY DEBT GOT BROUGHT INTO THE CONVERSATION.

DO WE BORROW MONEY EVERY YEAR? >> NO. >> WAIT, YOU MEAN FOR THIS?

>> WELL, WE DON'T BORROW MONEY EVERY YEAR BUT WE DO CIP PROJECTS EVERY YEAR.

>>> THIS OUTSOURCING IS PAID WITH BOND PROCEEDS. >> YES.

IS SO IF YOUR COMMENT WHY ARE WE TALKING OBTAIN DOABT PAY FOR ENGINEERING DESIGN, WE DO THAT RIGHT NOW WHICH DO -- LET ME SEE IF I CAN TAKE A DIFFERENT ROUTE SUBJECTING THAT POTENTIALLY CHANGING THIS WE'RE ISSUING LESS DEBT AND TO DO THIS WORK THAT PROJECT NEEDS BE MADE.

ALTHOUGH PROJECT COSTS ARE GOING UP. >> ONE THING NEEDS TO BE CLEAR.

MR. GARZA WAS TALKING ABOUT WE DID AN AVERAGE OTHER THAN A INDIVIDUAL YEAR, WOULD THAT NUMBER EXIST I GUARANTEE YOU IN TWO, THREE YEARS FROM NOW YOU PROBABLY HAVE ZERO DEBT DIVISION OR PROBABLY NO, YOU WON'T. SO THIS IS TRYING TO GIVE YOU A PICTURE OVER A FIVE-YEAR SCAN.

THAT'S ALL. SO TO MAKE SURE THIS WON'T HAPPEN EVERY YEAR, DEPENDS ON

AMOUNT OF DEBT THAT AUTHORIZE. >> THERE MIGHT BE A PROJECT ONE YEAR AND YOU DON HAVE ANY DEB INCURRED BUT YOU WOULD STILL PAY THE SERVICE FEE OUT OF SOMETHING.

>> DEPENDS ON THE TIMING, RIGHT? JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T ISSUE EVERY YEAR NOW.

>> I AGREE THAT WE DO PAY FOR THESE SERVICE FEES THROUGH DEBT BUT IT IS LIKE WHEN YOU ARE DIVIDING IT UP, IT IS WE'RE PAYING FOR IT SOME YEARS AND SOME YEARS WE PROBABLY PAY MORE FOR THE SERVICE FEE IN THE PAST ABSOLUTELY. BASING OFF OF A PROJECT COST THERE WILL BE VARIABLES AROUND THAT. I DO UNDERSTAND THE OBJECT IS TO LOWER THE COST OF WHAT IT DOES TO DO A PROJECT AND THAT IS WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING.

I THINK THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT OUR INTENT IS TO COMPLETELY NOT OUTSOURCE ENGINEERING SERVICES, RIGHT? INTENT IS ADDING VOLUME TO THE NUMBER OF STREETS WE'RE WORKING ON WE SIMPLY HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB OF DIVIDING THE WORKLOAD BETWEEN OUTSOURCING AND DOING WORK IN HOUSE TO BE CLEAR NO ONE IS SUGGING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO COMPLETELY GET AWAY FROM OUTSOURCING ENGINEER DESIGN SERVICES, WE SIMPLY WANT TO HAVE A BETTER BALANCE BETWEEN THEM.

>> I APPRECIATE THE EXTRA TIME. AND I LIKE THE CONCEPT. YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE'RE GIVING YOU A HARD TIME, BUT, I APPRECIATE THE EXTRA TIME WE GET TO TALK ABOUT IT.

>> I DON'T FEEL I'M GETTING A HARD TIME AT ALL. IT IS A GREAT.

>> AND FROM WHAT IT IS WORTH, I THINK THAT REGARDLESS OF HOW WE PAY FOR THESE POSITIONS, THIS IS HOW WE THINK WE SHOULD DO IT, BUT, WE'RE GOING TO NEED THAT PERSONNEL SO IF YOUR EXPECT 8 IS THAT WE ACTUALLY MEET THAT GOAL OF HITTING 112 MILES BY THE END OF 2026, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT WITH THE STAFFING RESOURCES WE HAVE RIGHT NOW SO REGARDLESS OF HOW WE PAY FOR IT, WE NEED

THAT. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. >> OKAY.

SO REAL QUICK, I DON'T HAVE ANYMORE SLIDES BECAUSE. >> YOU'RE AT 30 MINUTES.

>> YEAH, YEAH. >> WE ASKED QUESTIONS. BUT I KNOW THAT I'VE RECEIVED A LOT OF QUESTIONS AROUND THE IMPACT OF THE CIP, BECAUSE OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING, RIGHT.

WE OBVIOUSLY MARRIED A BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR NORTH HEIGHTS THAT MADE ALL OF US THINK, HOLY MOLE WHAT IS GOING ON RIGHT AND SO WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THE NUMBERS, BUT I WANTED TO PROVIDE A NUMBER OF YOU VERBALLY WE DON'T V KNOW WHAT NEXT MONTH IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE, BUT ALL IN ALL, WE ARE ESTIMATING AN INCREASE OF CLOSE TO $8 MILLION TO THE CIP IN FISCAL YEAR 2023 IF WE KEEP ALL THE SAME PROJECTS, THE RESIDENTIAL STREET PROJECT MIGHT COST US THERE ARE 1.2 MILLION MORE. CRESTWOOD PHASE 3 WE THINK WILL COST US ANOTHER 1.2 TO 1.

5 MILLION-DOLLAR AS AN EXAMPLE. OUR MILL AND OVERLAY PROGRAM WE THINK WILL COST AN EXTRA $750,000. YOU DO THE MATH IT ADDS UP REAL

[02:00:07]

QUICK. AND SO WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOU ABOUT SEVERAL OPTIONS. WE PLAN TO AT AN UPCOMING MEETING BEGIN SHARING SOME OF THOSE OPTIONS WITH YOU AND WE ENVISION THOSE OPTIONS BEING, ONE, WE SIMPLY JUST REDUCE THE PROJECTS TO STAY WITHIN THE TOTAL MONEY WE'VE DECIDED TO ISSUE IN DEBT NEXT YEAR.

TWO, WE INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF DEBT WE ISSUE NEXT YEAR TO COMPLETE ALL OF THE PROJECTS AND NOT ELIMINATE OR REDUCE ANY PROJECT AT ALL, OR THREE, SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE, RIGHT, WHERE WE REDUCE SOME PROJECTS BUT ALSO INCREASE DEBT. BASED OFF OF PRIORITY.

I THINK GOING INTO NEXT FISCAL YEAR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TOUT A LITTLE BIT OF FOCUS AND EMPHASIS ON WHAT PROJECTS ARE IMPORTANT AND THE TIMING OF THOSE PROJECTS BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT IF WE AWARD A PROJECT IN OCTOBER, THAT EXPENSE IN JANUARY IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT AND SO WE'RE INTERNALLY WORKING ON A RECOMMEND 8 TO MOVE QUICKER NEXT FISCAL YEAR ON CERTAIN THINGS LIKE THE RESIDENTIAL STREET PROGRAM, OBVIOUSLY IT IS A BIG DEAL.

WE WOULD SUGGEST THE RESIDENTIAL STREET PROGRAM WE TRY TO BID THAT OUT IN OKAY, RIGHT, GET THAT THING DONE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. SO THAT WE CAN AWARD IT ADDRESS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE WHILE WE CAN STILL SOMEWHAT GUEST ESTIMATE WHAT THAT EXPENSE WILL BE, RIGHT? MY ONLY POINT IN THAT IS THAT WE'LL ACTUALLY HAVE TO DELVE INTO THE WEEDS TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE WANT TO TACKLE NEXT FISCAL YEAR IN THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AROUND PRIORITY.

WE'LL ALSO HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AROUND, CUSHION, CONTINGENCIES AND CONVERSATION ABOUT HAVING A MIDYEAR ADJUSTMENT NEXT YEAR IF THINGS JUST CHANGE SIGNIFICANTLY AND TRY AND TACKLE A MID-YEAR ADJUSTMENT ALL AT ONCE OPPOSED TO HAVING EIGHT DIFFERENT BUDGET AMENDMENTS FOR EIGHT DIFFERENT PROJECTS. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO THINK OF THINGS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. FORTUNATELY, WE INDUSTRIAL A COUPLE OF MONTHS OVER A MONTH AND A HALF BEFORE WE FINALIZE THE BUDGET. THAT GIVES US A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO PUT THESE OPTIONS TOGETHER. CURRENTLY, THE PROPOSED BUDGET THAT YOU'LL GET AND HEAR ABOUT NEXT WEEK DOESN'T ACCOUNT FOR ANY CHANGES IN THE CIP YET.

SO THE TOTAL FIGURES YOU'LL HEAR ME BRENT ON MONDAY OF NEXT WEEK WILL NOT ACCOUNT FOR ANY INCREASE OF THE CIP, A DIFFERENT NUMBER THAT WHAT YOU HEAR NEXT WEEK.

BUT WE DON'T WANT TO SLOW DOWN, YOU KNOW, THE PROCESS FOR NEXT WEEK, BUT I WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT WITH Y'ALL, THAT THIS IS GOING TO CHANGE IT SIGNIFICANTLY.

>> RIGHT. >> SO. >> ALL RIGHT, SORRY THAT TOOK 45

[G. Executive Sessions:]

MINUTE. >> ALL RIGHT, AT THIS POINT WE'RE GOING TO RECESS INTO

EXECUTIVE SESSION AND FAKE A SHORT 10-MINUTE BREAK. >> CITY COUNCIL WILL REVES FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 7:03:00 P.M. THE EXECUTIVE SESSION DELIBERATION IS AS FOLLOWS 551.088, 551.072 AND 551.071.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.