Mar 01, 2022 City Council

[A. CALL TO ORDER]

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>> ASK. >> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR TUESDAY MARCH 1ST, 2022. IF YOU WILL, PLEASE RISE -- I'M SORRY, MS. HILBRICH, OUR QUORUM CALL, POLICE.

NOW AT THIS TIME IF YOU'LL JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE BY RISING FOLLOWED BY A MOMENT

OF SILENCE. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE PUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE, WITH

LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> HONOR OUR TEXAS FLAG, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STAYED, UNDER UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVIDUAL. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, MR. GWOSDZ WOULD YOU LIKE TO LEAD OFF THE ANNOUNCEMENTS TONIGHT?

[1. Announcements/Reminders:]

>> YES, SIR, I GUESS I WOULD. PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE AND SAD TO ANNOUNCE, I GUESS, BITTERSWEET, I'LL BE LEAVING THE CITY IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS SUMMER. I'M ANNOUNCING MY RETIREMENT FROM THE CITY OF VICTORIA. I ACCEPTED A JOB OFFER WITH A LAW FIRM AND THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE MY PUBLIC SERVICE BY REPRESENTING LOCAL ENTITIES IN THE REGION. I'M VERY, VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU ALL FOR THE REMAINDER OF MY TIME HERE AND AFTERWARDS TO WHATEVER EXTENT I CAN.

AND I'M HAPPY TO HELP WITH THE SEARCH FOR MY SUCCESSOR. >> BITTERSWEET CONGRATULATIONS, EXCITED FOR YOU AND SAD FOR US. BUT THANK YOU. MR. GARZSA.

>>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS.

>> OKAY. >> REALLY? >> THAT'S GOOD.

I THOUGHT ABOUT ANNOUNCING MY RETIREMENT, TOO, BUT I GOT A WAYS TO GO.

[a. Texas History Month Proclamation. Jeff Bauknight, Mayor]

>> ALL RIGHT, WE'LL GO INTO BEEN AND EMPLOYEE RECOGNITIONS. >> ITEM 2 B 2A IS THE TEXAS HISTORY MONTH PROCLAMATION, WHEREAS THE REPUBLIC OF TEXAS WAS BORN ON MARCH 2ND, 1886 WHEN DELEGATES THROUGHOUT THE MEXICAN DEPARTMENT OF TEXAS CONVENED ON WASHINGTON ON THE BRAZAS AND SIGNED THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE INDEPENDENCE AND WHEREAS THE FALL OF 1835 TO SPRING OF 1836, TEXANS CAME TO FIGHT FOR LIBERTY AND BETTER GOVERNMENT AND DURING HARDSHIP AND DEFEAT MOST NOTABLY AT THE ALAMO AND GOLIAD AND WHEREAS OUR COMMUNITY RECOGNIZES TEXAN AND AMERICAN HERO GENERAL SAM HOUSTON BORN ON MARCH 2ND AND HELP ASSURE THIS ONE TIME SOVEREIGN NATION OF THIS VICTORY AND LESS THAN 200 HEROIC CITIZEN SOLDIERS DEFENDED THE ALAMO TOGETHER FEBRUARY 23RD TO MARCH 6TH 1836, ELECTING TO FIGHT RATHER THAN SURRENDER AND GIVING THEIR LIVES SO THAT TEXAS MIGHT LIVE AND WHEREAS 342 BRAVE TEXAN UNDER THE COMMAND OF COLONEL JAMES WALKER FANON JR. EXCUED BY THE MEXICAN ARMY ON MARCH 27TH, 1836 AT GOLIAD, GIVING THEIR LIVES IN THE CAUSE OF TEXAS INDEPENDENCE, NOW THEREFORE I JEFF BALK IMIEGHT DO DESIGNATE MARCH 2022 AS TEXAS HISTORY MONTH AND ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO EXALT AND EXTOL THE CONSIDERATION OF TEXAN FORCES IN 1836 AND THE CONTINUED SIGNIFICANCE OF TEXAS HISTORY MONTH. [APPLAUSE]

[b. Red Cross Month Proclamation. Jeff Bauknight, Mayor]

>> THE NEXT IS ITEM B 2 B WHICH IS THE RED CROSS MONTH PROCLAMATION, WHEREAS IN TIMES OF RED CROSS BIN COASTAL CHAPTER COME TOGETHER TO CARE FOR ONE ANOTHER THIS HUMANITARIAN SPIRIT IS PART OF THE FOUNDATION OF SPIRIT OF OUR COMMUNITY EXEMPLIFIED BY RED CROSS

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THE ORGANIZATION HELPS TO SAVE THE LIVES OF OTHERS WITH FIRST AID, CPR AND OTHER FIRST AID TRAINING WHEREAS THEIR WORK TO PREVENT AND ALLEVIATE HUMAN SUFFERING IS VITAL TO STRENGTHENING OUR COMMUNITY'S RESILIENCE THEREFORE I DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MARCH 2220 TOO BE RED CROSS MONTH IN VICTORIA, TEXAS AND ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZEN CITIZENS TO REACH OUT AND SUPPORT HUMANITARIAN COMMISSION TO ALL THOSE WHO CONTINUE TO ADVANCE THE NOBLE LEGACY CLAIRE BARTON WHO LIVED BY HER WORDS "YOU MUST NEVER THINK OF ANYTHING BUT THE NEED AND HOW TO MEET IT AND ASK OTHERS TO JOINING IN THE COMMITMENT TO GIVE BACK IN OUR COMMUNITY".

[APPLAUSE] >> FIRST OF ALL, COUNCIL ANYONES AND MAYOR, CITY MANAGER, WANT TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE RECOGNITION, BUT JUST TO MAKE YOU AWARE IN YOUR COUNTY JUST FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR THAT STARTED JULY 1ST, WE HELPED 26 CASES WHERE WE'LL BE AT 55 INDIVIDUALS WHO WE'VE ACTUALLY DISTRIBUTED OVER $13,000 JUST IN FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT LIVE IN YOUR BACKYARD AND WE CANTU ENOUGH FOR YOUR SUPPORT AS WE CONTINUE THE MISS WITH THE VOLUNTEERS, THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU. >> ITEM B 2 C IS A MARCH 2022 KEEP VICTORIA BEAUTIFUL BUSINESS

[c. March 2022 Keep Victoria Beautiful Business Beautification Award. Chri...]

BUTEIFICATION AWARD. >> CHRISTY, WANT TO COME UP? >> THANK, APRIL.

>>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I AM HERE AGAIN TO ANNOUNCE OUR MARCH WINNER. BUT BEFORE I DO THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE TWO QUICK ANNOUNCEMENT, ONE IS AS A REMINDER WE HAVE OUR SILVER CITY NEIGHBORHOOD CLEANUP THIS SATURDAY STARTING AT 8:30 AT THE MLK JUNIOR PARK THERE IN SILVER CITY ON CALAS ROAD.

WE ARE REALLY EXCITED. WE HAVE OVER 100 VOLUNTEERS SO FAR OF AT LEAST NINE TEENS TO HELP RESIDENTS REMOVE LARGE ITEMS FROM THEIR HOMES AND GET PICKED UP BY OUR SOLID WASTE TEAM. WE'LL HAVE OTHER SERVICES OUT THERE INCLUDING FIRE DEPARTMENT, POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE'LL BE ING STALLING SMOKE DETECTORS AS NEEDED.

WE'LL HAVE MUSIC, HOT DOGS, PARKS DEPARTMENT WILL BE THERE. WE'LL HAVE TREES FOR RESIDENTS SO THEY CAN TAKE HOME, WE'LL HAVE UNITED WAY, VICTORIA COLLEGE, WE'LL HAVE THE MUNICIPAL COURT THERE. IT WILL BE GREAT FUN. AND MUSIC THIS TIME.

SO YEAH. SO HOPEFULLY, MANY OF YOU CAN JOIN US.

I DO KNOW COUNCILMAN DELAGARZA AND COUNCIL MAN SCOTT WILL BE THERE AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT. THE SECOND THING I WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUNCE IS WE HAVE KEEP VICTORIA BEAUTIFUL WAS AWARDED AN HEB GRANT IN AMOUNT OF $7300 TO GO TOWARDS OUR PROGRAM WORK AND OUR BEAUTIFY INDICATION GRANTS THAT WE'RE LAUNCHING HERE IN ABOUT A MONTH SO GOOD NEWS TODAY AND NOW I WOULD LIKE THE BRING UP CHANON LONGORIA OUR KNUTEIFICATION COMMITTEE TO

PRESENT THIS MONTH'S WINER. >> THANK YOU, CHRISTY AND GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

KEEP VICTORIA BEAUTIFUL IS A COLLABORATIVE COMMUNITY EFFORT WHICH HEIGHTENS AWARENESS IN TO THE IMPORTANCE OF US INVESTING IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE WE LIVE, WORK AND SERVE.

EVERY MONTH WE ACCEPT NOMINATIONS FOR BUSINESSES AND ORGANIZATIONS WHO ARE A SHINING EXAMPLE TO THE COMMUNITY. THIS MONTH OUR BEAUTIFY INDICATION COMMITTEE HAS CHOSEN

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[APPLAUSE] I WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE MAKING ALL THIS DON AND MAKING SURE WE CONTINUE TO BE A POINT OF PRIDE FOR VICTORIA. THERE ARE MANY GREAT DAYS AHEAD OF US AND HOPE TO DO MORE IN THE NEAR FUTURE AND APPRECIATE VERY MUCH PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR CITY,

THANK YOU. >> WE HAVE ITEMS FROM COUNCIL AND MR. LOFGREN, YOU'RE FIRST UP

[a. Discussion of Tax Rate. Mark Loffgren, District 6, Council member]

WITH A DISCUSSION OF TAX RATE. >>> IT IS NOT REALLY TAX RATE I WANT TO TALK ABOUT.

I WANT TO TALK ABOUT COMPONENTS THAT MAKE UP THE TAX RATE. AND M & O, YOU CAN CONSIDER IT THE CASH THAT GOES THE GENERAL FUNDS AND THAT RATE PLUS THE DEBT RATE MAKE UP YOUR TOTAL TAX RATE. THE DEBT RATE IS ABOUT CITIZENS IN VICTORIA PAY ABOUT $10 MILLION TO THE DEBT TO TAKE CARE OF BONDS WHICH ARE FOR CIP PROJECTS MAINLY STREETS AND THE DEBT PART OF YOUR TAX IS 40%. I OBSERVE COUNCIL SINCE 2013 THIS MORNING, OR THIS AFTERNOON, WHEN I CAME IN, I WENT AND SADDAM SAT IN MY FAVORITE CHAIR OVER THERE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN BIG BANG THEORY, BUT SHELDON HAS HIS PLACE WHERE HE SITS, I USED TO SIT THIRD ROW THIRD SEAT OVER IF YOU'RE SITTING THERE IT IS A GREAT SEAT.

I OBSERVED COUNCIL FOR A LONG TIME. THE REASON I CAME TO COUNCIL IS I WANTED TO GET MY STREETS FIXED IN 2014 THERE WAS A DISCUSSION IF ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS SAID THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT 70 THEY WERE ONE PERSON SAYS, CAN'T WE BORROW MORE MONEY? AND AND GILBERT SAID NO OUR CREDIT CARD IS MAXED OUT. MY FIRST THOUGHT WAS, I WISH WE COULD BORROW MORE MONEY BECAUSE I WANTED MY STREETS FIXED. THAT IS WHY I CAME DOWN THERE.

AND I SPENT A LOT OF TIME RESEARCHES WHERE WE COULD GET MORE MONEY FOR THE CITY WHERE WE COULD FIX MORE STREETS. THEY DEVELOPED A RESIDENTIAL STREET PLAN AND IT WAS BASED ON 3% GROWTH AND ON BORROWING MONEY WE'RE STILL DISCUSSING THOSE HOUSING DIVISIONS, IT DIDN'T WORK. I THOIGHTSD ABOUT THE DEBT THING AND REALIZEDF IS THAT REALLY THE WAY, YOU KNOW, WHEN I HANDLE MY OWN PERSONAL AFFAIRS I TRY TO PAY CASH AS MUCH AS I CAN.

I HAD TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE M & O AND DEBT RATE WENT TOGETHER.

AND REALLY WHAT BILL GERT -- GILBERT WAS SAYING WAS WHEN OUR CREDIT CARD WAS MAXED OUT.

IS WHAT CAN'T BORROW ANYMORE MONEY OTHERWISE WE'LL HAVE TO RAISE THE DEBT RATE WHICH WOULD RAISE THE TAX RATE. BECAUSE WE COULD HAVE BORROWED MORE MONEY, BUT WE THEY WOULD HAVE HAD TO RAISE THE TAX RATE. I'M NOT FOR RAISING THE TAX RATE, THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS CONVERSATION IS ABOUT. I LOOKED INTO HOW MUCH TRA THE CITY HAS PAID $34 MILLION IN INTEREST AND $66 MILLION IN INTEREST. PAYING CASH FOR STUFF SAVES

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WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, YOU CAN SAY, WELL, WE HAVE A LOT OF NEEDS AND WANTS EVERY CITY ON THAT LIST HAS A LOT OF NEEDS AND WANTS. AND WE HAVE MORE NEEDS AND WANTS THAN WE EVER HAD MONEY FOR. I WAS AT THE CITIZENS ACADEMY WITH A BUNCH OF THE PEOPLE UP HERE AND THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT CAN WE DO TO ATTRACT PEOPLE TO VICTORIA.

AND MY ANSWER WAS I WANT TO MAKE EVERYTHING BETTER HERE SO EVERYONE WANTS TO STAY HERE IN VICTORIA. I WANT TO MAKE EVERYTHING BETTER BUT OUR FINANCIAL SITUATION NEEDS TO BE BETTER TOO. WE'RE BORROWING TOO MUCH MONEY. NOW I DO NOT I TOO AND NOT WANT TO ELIMINATE DEBT, I WANT TO CUT DIDN'T. THE REASON I BROUGHT THIS UP IS BECAUSE ON MARCH 11TH MEETING WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE CIP WHICH IS BORROWING MONEY. AND AND THAT IS AN OPPORTUNE TIME IF WE DON'T BORROW QUITE AS MUCH MAYBE WE CAN MOVE MONEY OVER TO THE M & O SIDE. NOW.

IT MAKES IT HARD TO MOVE OVER TO THE M & O SIDE BECAUSE COSTS GO UP, THAT GENTLEMAN THERE, HE'LL WANT MORE MONEY FOR CERTAIN THINGS, I KNOW WHAT THEY ARE WE'VED HA CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IT. PAY RAISES, POLICE GETTING MORE MONEY AND THERE IS A STATE YOU CAN ONLY STATE THAT YOU CAN ONLY RAISE BY 3.5. MY POINT IS IF WE COULD BORROW LESS AND MOVE IT OVER TO THE M & O SIDE THAT MONEY WOULD BE PAYING LESS INTEREST, AND IS MORE MONEY EACH YEAR AND THE F WE DEDICATED IT TO CIP, THAT MONEY WOULD ALWAYS BE THERE WHETHER GROWTH OR NOT THERE IS NO GROWTH, WE CAN'T BORROW. WE CAN'T MOVE OVER A WHOLE LOT.

AND I DON'T WANT TO SACRIFICE, WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO TO BORROW MONEY BUT WE'RE OUT OF BALANCE IT'S HAPPENED FROM THE PAST. WE BORROWED A LOT OF MONEY SO THE CYCLE CONTINUED.

WE NEED TO SLOWLY GET OUT OF THE CYCLE. I DON'T WANT TO MAKE SOME BIG DRASTIC MOVES BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF NEEDS AND WANTS. EVERYBODY UP HERE HAS NEEDS AND WANTS AND JESUS HAS NEEDS AND WANTS. BUT -- AND THE REASON I BRING IT UP NOW IS BECAUSE I WANT EVERYBODY TO THINK ABOUT IT BEFORE WE HAVE THE MARCH 11TH MEETING BECAUSE IT IS GOOD TO THINK AGAIN ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR SUBJECT.

WHEN THE SALES TAX HALF CENT SALES TAX WAS PASSED, THERE WAS A PROMISE TO THE VOTERS AND I WANT TO READ THIS BECAUSE I THINK IT IS RELEVANT. "THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE RAISED FROM THE HALF CENT SALES TAX WILL ALLOW THE CITY TO ADOPT A PAY-AS-A YOU-GO APPROACH TO FUNDS INFRASTRUCTURE INDEBTED NEEDS THE CITY COULD PAY CASH INSTEAD OF BORROW THUS AVOIDING INTERESTS, COSTS AND DEBT INSURANCE COSTS. WE HAVE TO HAVE DEB AND WE CAN'T

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IF WE ELIMINATED THE DEBT AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE NEEDED TO DO SOMETHING WE HAVE NEEDS ALL THE TIME. ALL I'M ASKING COUNCIL TO DO, IS THINK ABOUT THIS.

BECAUSE I WANT EVERYTHING HERE BETTER. AND I WANT OUR FINANCIAL SITUATION BETTER. IT WILL BE A VERY SMALL SACRIFICE FOR THE NOW BUT IT WILL BE BETTER MUCH BETTER FOR THE FUTURE. AND IT IS FUNNY, BECAUSE I'M THE OLDEST PERSON UP HERE, BY THE WAY. YOU KNOW, SO MY FUTURE IS A LOT LESS THAN OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE UP HERE. BUT ANYWAY, IF EVERYBODY -- IF THE COUNCIL WOULD THINK ABOUT IT, YOU DON'T NEED TO -- IF YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING, THAT IS

FINE, BUT PLEASE, THINK ABOUT IT BEFORE THE MARCH 11TH MEETING. >> OKAY, THANK YOU, COULD I ASK YOU TO PLEASE SEND THE URL TO THIS TYPE OF SPREADSHEETS SO WE CAN SORT IT OURSELVES?

>> SURE. MAYBE SEND IT TO JESUS AND HE CAN SENDS IT OUT TO US OR WHATEVER, BECAUSE I WAS JUST GOING THROUGH IT AND WHILE WE'RE 90TH ON THE LIST IN THE WAY YOU SORTED IT. , 18 OF THOSE THAT ARE HIGHER RANKED OR 1 THROUGHINE, 18 OF

THOSE HAVE A HIGHER TAX RATE. >>> YOU CAN SEE WHAT OUR TAX RATE IS, I RANKED EVERYTHING, I

RANKED MARKET VALUE. >> OKAY SO WE'RE 58 OUT OF WHATEVER.

>>> THAT SOUR TOTAL TAX RATE. SO I MEAN WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PACK WITH TAX RATE.

OUR TAX RATE, THAT IS NOT REALLY THE PROBLEM. THE PROBLEM IS WE BORROW A LOT OF MONEY AND WE'VE DONE IT AND WE'VE CONTINUED DOING IT AND WE'VE CONTINUED DOING IT AND WE SACK -- WHEN YOU BORROW MONEY YOU SACRIFICE THE FUTURE. IT IS JUST LIKE IN YOU HAVE A LARGE CREDIT CARD DEBT, OKAY, YOU CAN'T TURN AROUND AND BUY SOMETHING IN THE MEANWHILE, YOU HAVE TO PAY OFF YOUR CREDIT CARD I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO THINK ABOUT IT I'M NOT ASKING FOR A BIG MOVE. WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT IT EVERY TIME WE BORROW DEBT, JUST MOVE A LITTLE BIT OVER, AND IN THE FUTURE, WE WILL HAVE MORE MONEY IN THE GENERAL FUND, ALL THE TIME IN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT $10 MILLION WE PAY EVERY YEAR IN PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST.

IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE HAD $10 MILLION EVERY YEAR TO TAKE CARE OF AND NOT PAYING ANY

INTEREST SO JUST THINK ABOUT IT. >> OKAY. >> A LOT TO THINK ABOUT, BUT WE

WILL ENDEAVOR TO HAVE A GOOD CONVERSATION IN MARCH. >>> MAYOR, CAN I ADD BRIEF

REMARKS. >> YOU SURE CAN. >>> I OBVIOUSLY COULD SAY A LOT AROUND THE TOPIC BUT WANT TO MAKE CLARIFYING POINTS THIS FISCAL YEAR, FISCAL YEAR OUT OF THE DEBT BACKED BUTTY PROPERTY TAX RATE WE HAVE A COMMITMENT CLOSE TO $1.9 BILLION.

10 YEARS AGO IT WAS $4.3 MILLION. TO PUT IN PERSPECTIVE HOW MUCH WE'RE COMMITMENTS OUT OF COS OR FOR COS IN 2022 VERSUS 2012. I'LL ALSO POINT OUT THAT CURRENTLY THE DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE IS.376 AND 10 YEARS AGO WAS 25.54.

SO THE DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE HAS GONE DOWN. >> THE DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE WOULD GO DOWN BECAUSE THE PENNY WOULD BE WORTH MORE. EVEN IF YOU WERE PAYING THE SAME

AMOUNT IT WOULD AUTOMATICALLY GO DOWN. >>> AND SAME APPLIES TORE THE

TAX RATE WHICH 10 YEARS AGO WAS 64.FAVOR AND NOW 58.82. >> I MAINLY WANTED TO CLARIFY HOW MUCH WE SPEND ON DEBT SERVICE A YEAR WHICH IS 1.9 WE HAVE BUDGETED.

>> FROM IF BUDGET WE HAVE 9 9,600-SOME ODD,000 SANITY SAND FROM THE DEBT BUDGET.

>> I'M TALKING ABOUT COSAND WE CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. IN ANY CASE, WE INTENDS ON PROVIDING HISTORICAL INFORMATION AT THE WORKSHOP TO HELP WITH THE CONVERSATION AND PLANNING ON HITTING ON SB 2, YOU ALREADY HIT ON THAT LIMITATION WHICH I THINK IS AN IMPORTANT ONE TO KEEP IN MIND AND THE OTHER COMMENT THAT I'LL MAKE IS THAT THANKS TO THAT HALF CENT FOR SALES TAX, THE CITY HAS BEEN ABLE TO SPEND OVER $110 MILLION SINCE ITS CREATION ON STREETS, DRAINAGE AND

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CASH. >> THANK YOU FOR THE DEFENSE OF THE CITY.

>> THAT'S WHAT YOU PAY ME TO DO. >> IN ANY CASE, WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE CONVERSATION AT THE

WORKSHOP OKAY. >> THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT TO US MR. LOFGREN.

[b. Discussion of a moratorium on approval of new private campgrounds with...]

>> MS. SCOTT. >> OKAY. >> EXCUSE ME I GOT STUCK WITH THE SOMETHING I ATE EARLIER, I APOLOGIZE FOR MY VOICE. OKAY, SO A FEW YEARS AGO WE PASSED AN ORDINANCE REGARDING CAMPING ON PUBLIC PROPERTY IN THE CITY AND AT THAT TIME WE SAID IF AN ISSUE AROSE WITH CAMPING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, WE WOULD DEAL WITH IT THEN.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT WE BEGIN THAT PROCESS NOW. IF WE DO DECIDE TO ALLOW CAMPING AT ALL, THEN THERE ARE MANY CONSIDERATIONS SUCH AS THE DENSITY, UTILITIES, FACILITIES TO BE PROVIDED SUCH AS RUNNING WATER, FRUNGS E FUNCTIONING REST ROOMS, GREASE TRAPS FOR COOKING FACILITIES, ELEVATION OF THE LIVING UNITS TO AVOID FLOODING, DRAINAGE CONCERNS AND ALL THE THINGS THAT WE CONSIDER WITH ANY DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY. SO IN THE INTERIM I WOULD LIKE US TO CONSIDER A PROHIBITION ON PERMITS FOR CAMPGROUNDS, MAN CAMP, TINY HOME PERMIT, TENT CITY PERMITS -- I'M TRYING TO BE AS BROAD AS POSSIBLE -- FOR ANY PERMIT AND ANY PERMIT OF ANY TYPE OF A SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSING WITH A SQUARE FOOTAGE OF LESS THAN 600 FEET OR MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING WITHOUT TRADITIONAL UTILITIES INCLUDED WITHIN THE HOUSING STRUCTURE I THINK THIS MORATORIUM SHOULDN'T BE LONGER THAN EIGHT MONTHS BUT IT WILL ALLOW US TO GET THE PROPER ORTY INSTANCES IN PLACE TO PROTECT OUR CITIZENS FROM UNSAFE OR INSUFFICIENT INADEQUATE HOUSING WHILE PROTECTING OUR BUSINESSES AND OUR NEIGHBORHOODS FROM THE INFILTRATION OF INCOMPATIBLE HOUSING TYPES. I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT WE WE CAN'T DO IT TONIGHT BUT THAT WE PUT ON THE AGENDA TO ACCOMPLISH A PROHIBITION ON PERMITS FOR EIGHT MONTHS AND

THEN WE BEGIN THE REST OF THE PROCESS. >> I'M ALL RIGHT WITH THAT I THINK IT IS BETTER IF WE FIGURE IT OUT RIGHT NOW. I KNOW THERE IS SOME IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT THERE ARE SOME THAT WOULDN'T, BUT WE NEED TO SEE WHAT WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT ON WHAT WE FIND PALATABLE AND I THINK THAT IS A VERY LOGICAL WAY TO STEP THROUGH IT ALL AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS.

>> THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE RVS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, DOES IT? >> THEY'RE ALREADY IN PLACE FOR

R VS PARKS SO THERE WOULD NOT BE A PROHIBITION ON THAT. >>> MR. GARZA, MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME WITH THIS ONE SORRY I DIDN'T GIVE YOU A HEADS UP, EARLIER, THAT IS ANY OF THIS

GOING TO BE IN THE UDO? >> I THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION, JULIE CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT?

>> SORRY, MS. FULL GRUM JRKS ACTUALLY A LOT OF, IF IT IS A STRUCTURE, WE ALREADY PRETTY MUCH REGULATE IT THROUGH THE BUILDING CODE. THERE IS NOT A MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE IN THE BUILDING CODE THERE USED TO BE THERE USED TO BE 400.

NOW THEY HAVE DIFFERENT ROOM SIZES THAT HAVE MINIMUM AND SO RICK AND I HAVEN'T EXACTLY DESIGNED ANYTHING OUT BUT MIGHT BE ABLE TO GO AS FALL AS 400 SQUARE FEET TO NEAT SOMETHING.

THE UDO IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE OUR BUILDING CODES BECAUSE WE ADOPT THE STANDARD ICC BUILDING KOID. THERE IS ALREADY A LOT OF RULES WHEN IT COMES TO ACTUAL PERMIT STRUCTURES IN OUR BUILDING CODE, BASICALLY IF IT IS A PERMANENT STRUCTURE, YOU KNOW, TINY HOUSE, THERE IS NOT REAL STANDARD INDUSTRY DEFINITION OF WHAT THOSE THINGS ARE.

BUT IF SOMETHING LIKE THAT WERE TO COME INTO THE CITY OF VICTORIA IT WOULD HAVE TO MEET THE BUILDING CODE, UDO IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE OUR BUILDING CODE A LOT, BUT WE CAN ADDRESS PRIVATE CAMP GROUNDS THROUGH THE UDO PROCESS IS OR START IT BEFORE AND ROLL INTO IT WHERE IT WOULD FIT BEST AFTER WE WORK ON WHATEVER YOU WOULD WANT THAT TO LOOK LEAK, BUT AS FAR AS STRUCTURES, I THINK WE'RE PRAET PROTECTED ON YOU KNOW, WE WANT TEMPERATURES THAT ARE GOING LAST A LIFETIME AND BE SAFE, SAFE HOUSING AND SO THE BUILDING CODE IS ALREADY IN PLACE FOR THAT.

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>> WHAT I UNYOU'RE ASKING FOR IS FOR ME TO BRING BACK AN ORDINANCE FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION AT OUR NEXT MEETING THAT WOULD PROHIBIT ANY APPROVALS OF THOSE TYPES OF STRUCTURES THAT YOU'VE OUTLINED. I DON'T WANT TO REPEAT IT BECAUSE I MAY MISS A FEW BECAUSE WE HAVE IT ON RECORDING AND IT WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE ABOUT AN 8-MONTH PROHIBITION ON APPROVING, WHY DON'T WE SAY STRUCTURES THAT ARE NOT ALREADY REGULATED BY THE BUILDING CODES, I THINK WHAT WHAT SHE'S SAYING IS THOSE ARE ALREADY COVERING LARGER BUILDINGS THAT YOU MAY

NOT HAVE INTENDED TO TARGET IN YOUR COMMENTS. >> I'LL WORK ON WHAT LANGUAGE WE SHOULD USE TO INCORPORATE WHAT THE BOUNDARYS ARE AND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS AND

COUNCIL CAN DEBATE IT AT Y'ALL'S NEXT MEETING. >> I THINK AS LONG AS STRUCTURE WOULD INCLUDE THINGS LIKE TENTS, I DON'T WANT THERE TO BE CREEPING OUT ON THE OTHER SIDE VAPING A STENT NOT A STRUCTURE SO THE PROHIBITION ISN'T FOR THAT.

BUT I THINK YES WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE. >> I THINK THAT IS AN IMPORTANT

CONSIDERATION. >> OKAY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

>> OKAY. WE'LL CLOSE -- WELL, THOSE ARE THE TWO THAT WE HAD LISTED ON ITEMS FROM COUNCIL DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER TOPIC THEY WOULD LIKE THE BRING UP? NO? WITH THAT WE'LL CLOSE ITEMS FROM COUNCIL.

[4. Citizen Communication:]

>> GOOD EVENING COUNCIL AND MAYOR EXECUTIVE, ASSISTANT AND MAYOR PRO ITEM.

FEBRUARY IS WARRANT RESOLUTION MONTH FOR PEOPLE WITH CLASS C WARRANTS THERE ARE PROBABLY 300 IN VICTORIA THAT HAS WARRANTS AND AT THE MARTIN LUTHER KING PARK IT IS ALSO KNOWN AS SILVER CITY ON 2808 YOU CAN GO THERE FROM 8:30 TO 10:30 TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR WARRANT WITHOUT GETTING ARRESTED BY THE POLICE FROM 8:30 TO 10:30, YOU KNOW, THEY GOT LIKE 22 PEOPLE JUST ON DOG-RELATED ISSUES. BUT ANYWAY, THAT SCHOOL, IT NEEDS TO BE DEMOLISHED LIKE TONIGHT. IF YOU COULD GET IT DONE BY MIDNIGHT I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.

THE ROOF IS CAVING IN ON ALL THE SIDES. IT IS SOMEONE WAS LIVING IN THERE IN A TENT IT ALSO HAS A REPUTATION OF ALLEGED CRACK COKE TAKEN DEALERS DOING DRUGS THERE.

THE OWNER FOUND A WHOLE BUNCH OF SOILED MAT STRESSES AND SHE WAS GOING TO MAKE -- MATTRESSES AND WAS GOING TO MAKE INTO IT A LOUNGE BUT IT NEVER DID MATERIALIZE.

AND I DON'T THINK THE CITY COUNCIL IS GOING TO APPROVE THAT OWNER TO MAKE A LOUNGE, A BEER JOINT, DOWN, RIGHT BY A -- YOU KNOW, RIGHT BY A GROUP HOME AND SCHOOL.

AND THERE IS A BUNCH OF BOARDS AND TRASH ALL OVER, AND ALSO YOU HAVE ACCESS TO GET IN THROUGH A WINDOW I SHOWED ON THAT SHEET, YOU KNOW, A PERSON COULD CALL IN THERE.

ANYWAY, IT SAYS "F THE POLICE,"" NO PIGS "AND" SUICIDE BOYS "AND GRAPHICS, NASTY GRAPHICS.

TWO YEARS AGO, SOMEONE TRIED TO KIDNAP SOMEONE THEY WERE EXPOSING THEMSELVES TO A GIRL AND CHASED A GIRL AND THEY CALLED THE POLICE AND THEY DIDN'T SOLVE THAT CRIME AND GAVE THEM THE MAX TEN YEARS FOR ATTEMPTED KIDNAPPING, THAT WAS RIGHT BY THAT AREA AND PEOPLE FROM PATTY WATER, SPECIFICALLY TODAY THEY DO GO THE BACK MART, YOU KNOW, AND IT JUST SEEMS DANGEROUS AND THE WHOLE ROOF 100% OF IT NEEDS TO GO. IT IS CAVING IN ON ALL THE SIDES AND A TELEPHONE POST LEANING OVER IS ABOUT TO HIT THE CARS GOING BY.

AND NO ONE HAS REALLY DONE NOTHING AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, CODE ENFORCEMENT ISN'T GOING TO FIX IT BECAUSE IT IS NOT AT LEAST 50% DAMAGEDDED OR DESTROYED, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY GO BY WHAT THEY SEE ON THE OUTSIDE. BUT ON THE OUTSIDE, THE WINDOWS ARE BROKEN AND THEY ARE NOT BOARDED UP. AND THEY ARE PLACES WHERE YOU COULD CALL IN, SPECIFICALLY SCENE TWO PLACES AND IT JUST IS A DANGEROUS FLIES BE, AND I WISH SOMEONE COULD DO SOMETHING, THANKS. SORRY ABOUT THE TIME.

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>> YOU GOT IT. >> ONE QUICK ITEM I FORGOT TO MENTION WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS PROHIBITION IS THAT WE HAD RECEIVED AN E-MAIL FROM ANOTHER GOVERNMENTAL AGENCY IT APPEARED TO BE A GOVERNMENTAL AGENCY EARLIER TODAY, AND I WAS ASSURED BEFORE THIS MEETING THAT THAT IS NOT THE VIEW OF ANY GOVERNMENTAL AGENCY AND THAT IT WAS MAYBE INDIVIDUAL BUT IT WAS SENT THROUGH GOVERNMENTAL AGENCY AND WASN'T SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT AND WE'LL GO INTO THE REST OF THEM, WE HAVE SIX MORE.

MS. JILL BLUCKER AND PLEASE LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL, I HAVE HEARD SOME OF OUR CITY GOVERNMENT SAY THAT OUR HOMELESS POPULATION LOOKS BAD TO PERSPECTIVE BUSINESSES. THEY WANT TO MOVE THEM OUT OF THE PUBLIC EYE. BARS HAVE BEEN INSTALLED ON OUR BEST STOPS TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM SLEEPING THERE. THE RUB OF THAT IS THAT PEOPLE DON'T CEASE TO EXIST WHEN YOU CAN'T SEE THEM. BEYOND THE SIMPLE FACT THAT THESE ARE HUMANS THAT DESERVE A SAFE PLACE TO REST, THROUGH TO EAT AND SUPPORTIVE SERVICES TO GET BACK ON THEIR FEET I ASK YOU TO ALSO CONSIDER THAT OUR HOMELESS POPULATION IS GROWING BECAUSE COST OF LIVING IN VICTORIA CONTINUES TO RISE ALMOST HALF OF THE POPULATION IN VICTORIA IS LIVING ON THE EDGE.

THERE IS ONE MINOR EMERGENCY AWAY FROM CHOOSING MEDICAL TREATMENT OVER RENT.

THEY ARE LESS THAN THREE MONTHS AWAY FROM BEING HOMELESS. THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE.

UNLESS WE DO SOMETHING IN EIGHT MONTHS, I CAN ONLY IMAGINE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE ON THE STREET WAITING IS NOT AN OPTION. THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU CITY COUNCIL IS IF YOU DON'T WANT A SAFE AND SANCTIONED AREA WHERE THEY CAN BE TEMPORARILY HOUSED, WHERE THEY CAN GET SUPPORTIVE SERVICES AND BE SAFE, WHERE DO YOU EXPECT THEM TO GO? CAMPING BANS AND VAI GANSSY LAWS HAVE MADE IT LITERALLY ILLEGAL FOR THEM TO EXIST WOULDN'T IT MAKE MORE SENSE AND BE MORE DECENT TO PROVIDE SAFE PLACES FOR OUR NEIGHBORS IN NEED?

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. MS. HASTINGS.

>> GOOD EVENING, THANKS FOR ALLOWING US TO SPEAK TONIGHT. I'M PATRICIA HASTINGS, I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF CHRIST KITCHEN, A COMMUNITY HEALTH WORKER AND A CONCERNED CITIZEN OF OUR AREA. I'VE WORKED WITH THE UNDERSERVED IN VICTORIA FOR 15 YEARS NOW, CURRENTLY CHRIST KITSCH PHENYOU DON'T KNOW IS SERVE APPROXIMATELY 800 MEALS PER DAY.

AND THAT IS NOT JUST TO HOMELESS PEOPLE, THAT IS THOSE LIVING ON THE EDGE ONE MINOR EMERGENCY FROM HOMELESSNESS SO WE HAVE A BIGGER PROBLEM. BUT WE'LL DISCUSS THAT AT ANOTHER TIME HOUSING THE HOMELESS TAKES TIME TIME TO CONNECT TO NECESSARY RESOURCES WHICH WOULD INCLUDE MENTAL HEALTH, IDS, BIRTH CERTIFICATES, SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS IF NECESSARY EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES AND MUCH MORE. UNTIL THESE RESOURCES ARE MET, WHERE DO OUR HOMELESS STAY? AT THIS VERY MOMENT ON THE CHRIST KITCHEN GROUNDS IN ARE 5 HOMELESS COMMUNITY MEMBERS PACKING UP AND MOVING TO ANOTHER PLACE THEY CAN BE.

THE SALVATION ARMY IS FULL. PER PET CRAWL HELP HOME IS A PROGRAM AND MIDCOAST SHELTER FOR WOMEN IS DESIGN FORD DOMESTIC VIOLENCE VICTIMS. WE CAN DO BETTER, GUYS.

WE NEED A SAFE PLACE FOR THESE COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN THE INTERIM.

A SANCTIONING ENCAMPMENT WOULD PROVIDE A SAFE PLACE. I URGE YOU NOT TO APPROVE A MORATORIUM ON PRIVATE CAMPGROUNDS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.

WE HAVE ONE COMMUNITY MEMBER. IT TOOK US THREE YEARS TOO GET HIM THE SERVICES HE NEEDED TO BE

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THANKS FOR HEARING US. >> THANK YOU MS. HASTINGS. >> MS. BEAVER.

>> HI, GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS DARA BIEBER. I HAVE NOT BEEN IN THE THIS WORLD OF YOU KNOW, HELPING PEOPLE, I HAVE -- I WAS IN THE WORLD OF PEOPLE THAT NEEDED TO BE HELPED. AND IN MY PERSONAL JOURNEY, I WAS HOMELESS AND I ENDED UP GOING TO REHAB AND I CAME BACK AND I DIDN'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO GO EXCEPT BACK WHERE I WAS BEFORE AND THANK GOD THAT I HAD -- I FOUND SUPPORT. AND I WAS ABLE TO GET HOUSED IN A SAFE PLACE. BUT THIS WAS NOT LIKE, THIS WASN'T AN EMERGENCY SHELTER.

THIS WASN'T -- THIS WAS LIKE AN EXCEPTION TO THE RULE, RIGHT, MY STORY.

SO I WAS LUCKY. OKAY, YOU SAY THESE PEOPLE WANT TO BE ON THE STREETS OR THEY'RE THERE BECAUSE OF THEIR BAD DECISIONS. EVERYONE HAS MADE BAD DECISIONS IN THEIR LIFE. SO SAY WE SEND EVERYBODY OFF THAT NEEDS MENTAL HEALTH, SEND THEM TO A MENTAL HOSPITAL, GET THEM BETTER, WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO GO WHEN THEY COME BACK? BACK TO THE STREET? PEOPLED A DISTRICTED TO DRUGS SENDS THEM TO REHAB.

WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO GO WHEN THEY COME BACK? BACK TO THE DOPE HOUSE? BACK TO THE STREET? I SEE A NEED. AND I SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN MY WORK NOW THAT JUST FALL IN THE CRACKS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE LIKE A SOLUTION FOR THEIR IMMEDIATE PROBLEMS, BUT THEIR IMMEDIATE PROBLEMS AREN'T GET A JOB.

IT IS GET SOME DECENT SLEEP. BE ABLE TO TO TAKE A SHOWER, EAT.

AND THEN LET'S WORK ON GETTING YOUR DOCUMENTATION. I MEAN WHO IS GOING HIRE SOMEBODY WHO SMELL SMELLS BAD AND DOESN'T HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE OR ID.

THAT IS WHAT A SAFE -- AND I'M NOT GOING TO CALL IT AN ENCAMPMENT, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT TENTS HERE, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT CAMPING GROUNDS. AND THIS IS SOMEPLACE WHERE WE CAN HELP PEOPLE GET ON THEIR FEET, FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY WANT TO DO IN LIFE RATHER THAN JUST GO FROM TRAUMA TO TRAUMA TO TRAUMA IN THEIR LIFE. AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT LIKE IT WAS SAID BEFORE, WHAT IS GOING HAPPEN IN EIGHT MONTH'S TIME? WHAT ARE WE GOING DO FOR THESE PEOPLE? ARE WE JUST GOING SHUFFLE THEM OUT OF SIGHT? HOW CAN WE HELP THEM THERE? IF WE CAN'T EVEN FIND HEM? ARE THEY JUST GOING TO DIE

ALONE? THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU MS. BIEBER.

MS. CAULK. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL, MY NAME IS KIM CAULK, MAYOR BAUKNIGHT, I'M SPEAKING TO YOU NUMBER ONE AS SOCCER ADDICT OF 17 YEARS. I'M SPEAKING TO YOU AS A PERSON WHO HAS BECOME HOMELESS HERSELF BECAUSE OF A SERIOUS MEDICAL EMERGENCY.

AND IF A HURRICANE. THERE MANY R MANY REASONS PEOPLE ENDS UP ON THE STREET.

ILLNESSES, WEATHER EVENTS THAT SHUT DOWN BUSINESSES AND RECENTLY A WORLDWIDE PANDEMIC THAT SHUT DOWN LIFE AS WE KNEW IT. THERE ARE ALSO THOSE THAT LIVE ON A CLIFF AND ONE EMERGENCY CAN SEND THEM OVER THE CLIFF. SOME OF THESE SITUATIONS AREBREAD BRED OUT OF GENERATIONAL POVERTY, BUT RECENTLY THE SHRINKING MIDDLE CLASS HAD A CLOSE LOOK AT WHAT IT FEEL LIKE ON THE CLIFF WITH OUR PANDEMIC.

IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW THEY GOT TO THIS POINT. THEY ARE ON THE STREET AND THEY NEED HELP. AND VICTORIA THERE ARE ONLY A FEW OPTIONS IF YOU'RE HOMELESS,

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PERPETUAL HELP HOME WHICH IS A PROGRAM THAT HOUSES UP TO 17 WOMEN WHO QUALIFY FOR THE PROGRAM THAT MUST HAVE A JOB AND PAY A PORTION OF THEIR INCOME TO PER PETTUAL FOR ROOM AND BOARD.

PROMISE POINT IS A PERMANENT HOUSING COMMUNITY FOR THE CHRONICALLY HOMELESS.

IT IS NOT AN EMERGENCY SHELTER. THE RESIDENTS PAY RENT. AGAIN, THEY NEED A JOB OR INCOME. THE WELLNESS CENTER BY GULF BEN WHICH HOUSES THOSE WITH MENTAL ILLNESSES, THAT NEED SUPPORTIVE HOUSING IS ONLY A FEW UNITS AND IT IS USUALLY FULL.

PLUS, YOU HAVE TO QUALIFY WITH A MENTAL ILLNESS. WHILE PEOPLE IN CRISIS IN STREET ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND THEM PERMANENT HOUSING THROUGH RAPID REHOUSING PROGRAMS DUE TO THE NEED FOR DOCUMENTATION AND AGAIN, INCOME. DOCUMENTS LIKE IDS, BIRTH CERTIFICATES, PROOF OF RESIDENCY ARE VERY HARD TO GET WHEN YOU'VE HAD EVERYTHING STOLEN AND STARTING THE FROM SCRATCH BECAUSE OF THE CIRCULAR NATURE OF THE PROCESS.

YOU HAVE ONE DOCUMENT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE ONE DOCUMENT TO PROSECURE THE OTHER.

FOR EXAMPLE, YOU CAN'T PROVE RESIDENCE FOR ID IF YOU DON'T HAVE AN ADDRESS.

YOU NEED A BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND SOCIAL SECURITY CARD BUT CAN'T HAVE AN ID -- YOU NEED AN ID TO GET A BIRTH EXPERT YOU NEED A BIRTH ASSOCIATE GET AN ID. WE HAVE TO BE VERY CREATIVE IN GETTING ENOUGH DOCUMENTATION TO BE ABLE TO PROCURE THESE DOCUMENTS WHICH ARE NECESSARY TO GET A JOB OR HOUSING. IT IS HARD TO HELP PEOPLE GET SOBER AND PROVIDE THEM MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES WHEN THEY HAVE NO SAFE PLACE TO SLEEP, THEY'RE HUNGRY AND THEY ARE CONSTANTLY IN FEAR OF LEAVING THEIR THINGS BECAUSE THEY WILL GET STOLEN. IT IS PARTICULARLY DANGEROUS FOR A WOMAN ON THE STREETS TO BE TRAFFICKED, RAPED OR BEATEN. THERE WERE TWO DEATHS RECENTLY IN THE HOMELESS COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY HAD NO SAFE PLACE TO GO.

>> THANK YOU, MS. CAULK. >> MS. BILL. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

COMING FROM BEING HOMELESS INTO THE PER PELTUAL HELP HOME, IT IS A BIG DIFFERENCE FROM BEING OUT IN THE STREETS EVERY DAY. IT IS AN UNSAFE SITUATION FOR ANYONE TO BE IN.

JUST TAKE YOURSELF OUT OF THINKING ABOUT IT AS NOT YOURSELF, THINK ABOUT IT AS BEING SOMEONE IN YOUR FAMILY, YOUR LOVED ONE THAT YOU'D WANT THEM TO BE SAFE.

BECAUSE BEING OUT ON THE STREETS IS NOT SAFE FOR ANYBODY. YOU DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'RE GOING TO WAKE UP OR IF YOU'RE GOING WAKE UP. YOU SEE A LOT, JUST A SAFE PLACE FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO SLEEP TO SHOWER, JUST TO KNOW THAT THERE IS PEOPLE THAT THERE THAT CARE, HELP THEM GET WHATEVER IT IS THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN TO GET THEMSELVES BACK ON TRACK.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU MS. BILL. MS. PICKENS.

>> GOOD EVENING. I'M HERE TODAY STANDING BEFORE YOU TO EXPRESS MY DISAPPOINTMENT AND SURPRISE AT THE IDEA THIS COUNCIL CREATING A MORATORIUM TO STOP NON-PROFITS FROM UPLIFTING CITIZENS IN OUR COMMUNITY. WHAT IS THERE TO THOSE TRY TO CHANGE PEOPLE'S LIVES SO THEY CAN HAVE A TEMPORARY SPACE TO BE SAFE AND SECURE AS THEY WORK WITH OTHER SERVICE PROVIDERS TO BECOME SUCCESSFULLY, PERMANENTLY HOUSED? I HAVE STOOD AT THIS PODIUM FOR OVER THE LAST NINE YEARS BRINGING IDEAS AND SOLUTIONS TO A SITUATION THAT IN THE PAST THE CITY HAS OFTEN IGNORED. RALEIGH MCCOY WAS THE FIRST MAYOR WHO NOT ONLY MET WITH AND LISTENED TO ORGANIZATIONS THAT PROVIDED SERVICES TO PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.

HE WALKED ALONGSIDE THOSE COMMUNITY MEMBERS. HE VOTED AGAINST THE ANTI-CAMPING ORDINANCE THAT WAS NARROWLY VOTED INTO EXISTENCE. THE PREEMPTIVE MORATORIUM DISCUSSION SHOWS THE CROSS SIDE OF OUR CITY OF VICTORIA FOR CHURCHES AND NONPROFITS TO SOLVE THE ISSUE OF HOMELESSNESS IN OUR COMMUNITY SO WHEN A ADMINISTRATOR OF A NON-PROFIT OFFERS UP A SOLUTION THAT FILLS A SERVICE GAP, WHY WOULD THE CITY TRY TO STOOP IT BEFORE IT HAS A CHANCE TO PROVE ITSELF? WHY WOULD THE CITY NOT WANT TO PARTNER WITH OR AT THE VERY LEAST VERBALLY SUPPORT THAT PROJECT WHICH ON JANUARY 20TH, THE CITY MANAGER DID SAY THE CITY WOULD SUPPORT THIS PROJECT? THEY JUST HAD NO MONEY FOR IT.

EMBRACING HOPE WAS BORN OUT OF MANY CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN NON-PROFITS, CHURCHES AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS PARTICIPATING IN MEETING SINCE LATE 2019. THE PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING

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WE'VE BECOME NUMB AND USED TO SURVIVING. LETS US HELP PEOPLE DO MORE THAN JUST SURVIVE. LET US HELP THEM LIVE. EMBRACING HOPE IS NOT MEANT TO BE A CAMPGROUND. IT IS A TEMPORARY HOUSING SITUATION FOR A SPECIFIC POPULATION OF VULNERABLE PEOPLE WHO NEED HELP TO GET TO THAT NEXT PHASE OF RESILIENCE SO THEY CAN LIVE. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW OUR COMMUNITY AND THE REST OF THE WORLD THAT VICTORIA IS A PLACE THAT CARES FOR ITS COMMUNITY MEMBERS, ALL OF ITS COMMUNITY MEMBERS. PLEASE REJECT PLACING A MORATORIUM ON THIS MINISTRY

BEFORE IT HAS EVEN BEGUN. INVEST IN PEOPLE. >> THANK YOU MS. PICKERNS.

-- PICKENS. MS. HARRIS. >> THIS IS GOING TO BE KIND OF OFF THE RIP SO EXCUSE MY STUTIRRING. COUNCIL, MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR LETTING US SPEAK AND MY FRIENDS. I THINK THAT MY APPROACH IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

HOW ARE QUESTION GOING TO INCREASE PUBLIC SAFETY AND SAVE TAX DOLLAR? IN THE END I CAME FROM THE OUTSKIRTS OF AUSTIN AND YOU'RE AWARE OF THE HOMELESS PROBLEM THAT WAS INDUCED COUNCIL TALK BLIND EYE TO IT. YOU HAVE STATES THAT SEND TICKETS, BUS TICKETS TO INDIVIDUAL TO AUSTIN TO LIVE THERE TO ACCOMMODATE THEM BECAUSE AUSTIN DID NOT ADDRESS THE PROBLEM AND I'M NOT SAYING TENT CITY -- YOU KNOW, WE FIGHT ABOUT THIS ALL THE TIME, I'M NOT SAYING TENT CITY A GOAL, BUT HOW ARE WE PROPERLY INVESTING OUR TAX DOLLARS INTO REMEDYING THIS PROBLEM SO WE DON'T END UP IN AUSTIN, WHEN I GOT HERE A YEAR AND A HALF AGO MY FIRST QUESTION WAS WHERE ARE THESE HOMELESS FOLKS COMING FROM? THERE IS A HUGE POPULATION FOR THE CENSUS AND VICTORIA COUNTY OR VICTORIA, THE CITY OF VICTORIA OF HOMELESS FOLKS. THEY'RE VERY VISIBLE AND I'VE BEEN ASKING, NOBODY CAN SEEM TO GIVE ME AN ANSWER. I ASKED A COUPLE OF FOLKS AND SOMETIMES DISASTERS WILL BRING FOLKS IN HOPING TO UTILIZE RESOURCES AND YOU KNOW, THE HURRICANE, I'M SURE SOME FOLKS FLEW IN AND STAYED THERE IS A LARGE HOMELESS POPULATION. IF IT IS NOT ADDRESSED IN SOME SORT OF FASHION, TAXPAYERS ARE GOING TO ENDS UP HAVING TO BE FORCED TO ACCOMMODATE IT WITH TAX DOLLARS. PUBLIC SAFETY. LAW ENFORCEMENT, IT IS NOT FAIR TO HAVE THEM HERD CATS. IT IS NOT FAIR -- THEY'RE NOT TRAINED TO DEAL WITH HOMELESSNESS AND TENT CITIES AND MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEM WHEN THEY CALL GULF BEND THE CRISIS LINE ON WEEKEND THEY SAY THEY WILL BE THERE ON MONDAY. $64 A DAY PER PERSON? THIS IF YOU GUYS WANT TO ACCOMMODATE YOUR CONSTITUENTS YOU SHOULD REALLY CONSIDER THEIR

TAX DOLLARS AND. >> YOU'RE GOING WITH. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER A MUM OR.

>> MORATORIUM. >>> IT SOUNDS LIKE A FUNERAL HOME OR TEMPORARY RETRAINING ORDER IN MY LANGUAGE. I'M ASSUMING IT IS GOING TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM GETTING ANY SORT OF PERMITS, BUT YOU REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT THE FUTURE AND WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THERE IF YOU'RE GOING TURN A BLIND EYE AND SAY GO AWAY, THEY'RE NOT. THEY'RE COMING HERE BY THE TENS I MEAN, WITH THE WARMING CENTER, I MEAN THE CARNIVAL THAT CAME THROUGH TOWN LEFT A FEW FOLKS.

I MEAN, AND WHEN THEY SEE MORE OF A POPULATION OF THEIR OWN, THEY'RE GOING TO FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THIS IS WHERE WE SHOULD BE. SO I MEAN, PLEASE CONSIDER TAX

DOLLARS FOR THE FUTURE. >> THANK YOU, MS. HARRIS, THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO CAME AND SPOKE BEFORE US TONIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE CITIZENS COMMUNICATION AT THIS POINT. NO MORE CARDS AND GO INTO ITEMS WITH PUBLIC HEARINGS.

[1. An Ordinance vacating, closing, and abandoning certain alleys in respo...]

>> ITEM C 1 IS AN ORDINANCE VAI KAINTING CLOSING AND ABANDONING CERTAIN ALLEYS IN RESPONSE TO

THE PETITION OF 100% OF THE ADJOINING LANDOWNERS. >> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. I'LL GIVE A BRIEF MOMENT FOR PEOPLE TO CLEAR OUT OF THE ROOM.

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PART OF THE CITY COUNCIL. >> CAN I DISRUPT U DESCRUPT INTERRUPT FOR A MOMENT.

WE'RE HAVING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES OVER HERE. EVERYTHING IS FLASHING.

>>> IT COMES ON AND IT GOES BLACK. >> THAT APPARENTLY IT IS THESE

THREE. >> I WILL JUST LOOK AT THE SCREEN.

>>> YOU CAN MOVE TO DWAYNE'S SEAT. >> THIS ONE DOESN'T WORK EITHER.

>> YEAH, WE CAN READ HERE. SORRY. >> THAT'S QUITE ALL RIGHT AS I WAS SAYING, CITY COUNCIL'S ACTION HERE IS MANDATORY, NOT DISCRETIONARY SO LONG AS THE PETITION MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODE. I HAVE REVIEWED THE PETITION AND IT DOES MEET THE REQUIREMENTS IN THE CODE. I ALSO MET WITH BOTH THE PUBLIC PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT TO DETERMINE WHETHER THERE ARE ANY NEEDS FOR US TO WHEELED EASEMENTS OR OTHER ACCESS IN THE ALLEY WAY AND THERE ARE NONE. SO VERY BRIEFLY, LET ME SHOW YOU THE TWO ALLEYS THAT WE'RE TALKING AUNT, ON THESE MAPS YOU CAN SEE HOSPITAL HIGHLIGHTED IN THING THE CENTER OF THE MAP. IF YOU LOOK AT RIO GRANDE STREET IS, 714 EAST RIO GRANDE IS THE FIRST OF THE TWO PROPERTIES THAT ARE BEING DISCUSSED TONIGHT IT AT ONE POINT WAS USED AS A CAR DEALERSHIP IN ITS HISTORY. IT HAS BEEN USED FOR OTHER THINGS SINCE, I BELIEVE USED CAR LOTS. THAT PROPERTY WHEN VIEWED FROM AN AERIAL IMAGE THAT IS ON THE ORIGINAL PLAT THAT WAS FILED WITH THE CITY. WE THINK IN THE 1950S.

AND HAS BEEN THERE EVER SINCE. THERE IS NO NEED FOR THAT ALLEY TO CONTINUE.

THERE IS ONLY ONE PROPERTY OWNER, AND THAT IS THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT IS REQUESTED THE

ABANDONMENT, THE TED WILKINSON FAMILY TRUST. >> THE SECOND PROPERTY THAT IS ALLEY WAY THAT IS BEING REQUESTED IS ON THE ADJOINING BLOCK OWNED BY THE SAME PROPERTY OWNER. AND THAT PROPERTY HAS BEEN USED AS THE WILKINSON COLLISION CENTER IN THE PAST. I DO NOT BELIEVE IT IS CURRENTLY OPERATING.

I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT. IF YOU LOOK AT THAT PARCEL IN THE OVERHEAD IMAGERY, AGAIN, THE PURPLE HIGHLIGHTED SECTION OF THIS MAP SHOWS THE PROPERTY OWNER'S PROPERTY AND YOU CAN SEE THE HALLEY WAY -- THE ALLEYWAY INTRUDING INTO IF PROPERTY THERE ARE TWO PARCELS ON THIS BLOCK THAT I DID NOT HIGHLIGHT, THAT IS MY OWN FAILURE, INABILITY TO OPERATE OUR SOFTWARE CORRECTLY, I DID CONFIRM BOTH OF THOSE PARCELS ARE OWNED BY THE SAME TRUST, AND SO ALL OF THE ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNERS OF THAT ALLEY HAVE REQUESTED THAT THE AL WILL BE ABANDONED.

AS A CONSEQUENCE OF THAT IT IS MANDATORY THAT THE COUNCIL ABANDON THAT RALEIGH.

>> THANK YOU, MR. GWOSDZ. AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM C 1, ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS TOP, PLEASE STOP THE MICROPHONE.

SEEING NO ONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN ANY MOTIONS.

>> SO MOVE. >> I'LL SECOND. >> MOTION AND A SECOND TO

APPROVE ITEM C 1, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> ALL KNOWS FAVOR, SAY AYE.

>> AYE. >>> THOSE OPPOSE SAME SIGN. ALL RIGHT, ORDINANCE PASSES, AND

[2. An ordinance abandoning Herrod Avenue and Avenue A, being unimproved r...]

THEN C 2. >> C 2 IS AN ORDINANCE ABANDONING HEROD AVENUE AND AVENUE A BEING UNAPPROVED RIGHTLESS OF WAY WITHIN THE HERROD SUBDIVISION IN NORTH OF

PLEASANT GREEN DRIVE. >> GOOD EVENING, THIS IS NOT AN ALLEY ABANDONMENT IT IS PLATTED

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THIS IS THE SUBDIVISION BACK FROM 1948 THAT DEDICATED THOSE RIGHTS OF WAY TO THE PUBLIC.

AND AGAIN, STAFF DOES RECOMMEND ABANDONING THESE AS THEY ARE UNIMPROVED AND WOULD RELIEVE THE CITY OF ANY FUTURE MAINTENANCE LIABILITY AND FACILITATE THE PROPERTY OWNER'S EXPANSION.

SO I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> JULIE, DO WE HAVE MY

WATERLINES OR SEWER LINES GOING UNDER THOSE STREET? >> NO, MA'AM, AND WE CHECKED AND

WOULD NOT NEED TO RETAIN ANY EASEMENT. >> I HAVE A QUESTION.

ON THE SLIDE YOU SEE THE NUMBER 1, THERE ARE TWO NUMBER ONES ONE IS ON A BUILDING AND ONE IS ON A

LOT. >> IF YOU LOOK AT THE ACTUAL PLAT THOSE ARE LOT NUMBERS AND BLOCK NUMBERS AND SO THE PROPERTY OWNER WOULD BE REPLOTTING ONTO 1 LOT, IT WOULD ESSENTIALLY BECOME ONE LOT, BUT YOU CAN SEE FROM THE ORIGINAL SUCK DIVISION.

SO WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ON OUR MAP, OURRET REPRESENTING THE ACTUAL PLAT PLOTTED SUBDIVISION.

>> IT APPEARS THE FIRST SMALL ONE IS ON A BUILDING AND THERE IS A 4 RIGHT BEHIND IT.

WHAT IS THAT ONE AND N THAT 4? >> THOSE ARE THE LOT NUMBER. >> SIX LOTS IN THAT SECTION.

>> OKAY. >> THEY WERE JUST LOT NUMBERS AND MAGIC INDUSTRIES OWNS ALL OF THOSE PROPERTY ADJACENT IF YOU SEE THE BIG ONE, THERE IS A FAINT GREEN CIRCLE AROUND IT

THAT FAINT GREEN CIRCLE IS THAT IS A BLOCK NUMBER. >> RIGHT.

>> GOTCHA I'M SORRY. >> OKAY. >> ALL RIGHT.

NO FURTHER QUESTIONS? I'LL OPEN UP PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM C 2.

>> ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE STEP FORWARD TO THE MICROPHONE.

SEEING NO ONE RISE UP, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON C 2 AND ENTERTAIN ANY MOTIONS.

>> I MOVE TO ADOPT. >> I SECOND IT. >> MOTION AND A SECOND TO ADOPT ITEM C 2 ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ALL THOSE OPPOSE SAY AYE, ALL THOSE.

>> I'M SORRY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >>> AYE.

>> THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. ITEM C 2 CARRIES.

I'M SORRY I THREW MYSELF TOO ON THAT. ITEM C 52 OOH 3.

[3. Approve the Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) 2019 Annual Actio...]

>>> ITEM C 3 IS A RESOLUTION APPROFESSORRING THE CHUB COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT OR CDBG 2019 ANNUAL ACTION PLAN SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENT 3 FOR CARES ACT FUNDS.

>> GOOD EVENING AGAIN. SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING COUNCIL TO APPROVE TONIGHT IS SUMMARIZED ON THIS SLIDE, ALTHOUGH I HAVE QUITE A FEW TO EXPLAIN WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR CZBG FUNDS.

THE COMMUNITY ACTION COMMITTEE AND PERPETUAL HELP HOME PROJECTS THAT WERE GRANTED, THEY WERE ACTUALLY CANCELED AT THE REQUEST OF THOSE AGENCIES. THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO FULFILL THEIR PROGRAMS AND SO WE ARE ASKING COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE CANCELLATION OF THOSE PROGRAMS, THAT IS A MAJOR AMENDMENT. THIS REQUIRES COUNCIL ACTION. AND THEN WE'RE ALSO DEGREASING THE MIDCOAST FAMILY SERVICES BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND ID PROGRAMS FROM $15,000 TO $10,000 DECEASING BY $5,000 BECAUSE THE COST OF IDS AREN'T SO EXPENSIVE AND WE DON'T HAVE QUITE THAT DEMAND AND ONLY 70 $10,000 OF THE 15,000 AND INSTEAD WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS REPROGRAM THIS MONEY AND OTHER MONEY I'LL GET INTO IN THE FUTURE SLIDES INTO OUR RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM FOR $151,500 DOLLARS AND SO THAT IS BUDGE INCREASE IS OVER $100,000 THAT CONSTITUTES A MAJOR AMENDMENT. SO WHAT WE STARTED WITH OUR CDBG FUNDING IS $832,139.

IT IS BROKEN DOWN TO NECESSARY DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES. EACH ACTIVITY, WHAT THE BUDGET WAS, HOW MUCH OF THE FUNDING WE EXPENDED. HOW MUCH FUNDING WE HAVE LEFT AND THEN WHETHER THE PROJECT IS ONGOING OR COMPLETED. FOR EXAMPLE, OUR UNDEVELOPMENT SERVICES STAFF, WE BUDGETED FOR A PART-TIME WORKER FOR $21,500 TO HELP US MINISTER ALL THESE

[01:05:04]

BALANCE OR EXCESS FUNDING OF $17,000 WE CAN REALLOCATE. >> AIO CAN SEE WE EXPENLDZED ALL OF THE ORIGINAL BUDGET FOR THE RENTAL AND MORTGAGE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ONLY SPENT A PORTION OF THEIR FUNDS THAT WERE AWARDED.

THEY ENDED UP FINDING ANOTHER GRANT THAT DIDN'T HAVE ALL OF THE OWNER'S PAPERWORK BURDEN AND SOY SOR THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, CHOSE TO USE THAT WHICH MAKES A LOT OF SENSE SO WE HAVE 4100 LEFT OUT OF THAT. COMMUNITY ACTION COMMITTEE HAS A WATER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM WITH ORIGINALLY BUDGETED 20,000. ALL OF THESE CONTRACTS FOR THESE AGENCIES WITH THE CDBG FUNDS EXPIRED DECEMBER 31ST. WE ARE RIGHT NOW ARE WORKING THROUGH THE REIMBURSEMENT PROCESS. AND SO WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH AND DON HAVE AN EXACT FIGURE, WAS WE KNOW THERE WILL BE FUNDING LEFT OUT OF THE 20,000, BUT THAT WOULD BE A MINOR AMENDMENT AS WE CAN REPROGRAM THOSE BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF MONEY.

THEIR UTILITY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM AND PERPETUAL HELP WERE CANCELED THAT I SHOWED ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE. AND WE HAVE MEALS ON WHEELS WHICH AGAIN, THEY WERE AWARDED 99,000, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THEIR REIMBURSEMENT REQUEST. WE KNOW THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE EXSPENDING ALL 99,000 AND SO WE'LL HAVE FUNDS THERE TO BE REALLOCATEED AND I WON'T CONTINUE TO GO THROUGH LINE-ITEM BY LINE-ITEM, BUT YOU CAN SEE WE DO HAVE A LOT OF FOUND BE REALLOCATED IN THESE DIFFERENT PROJECTS THIS IS OUR FACILITY PROJECTS.

WE DON'T HAVE AS MUCH LEFT. WE HAVE $3 LEFT OUT OF A DEEP CLEANING FOR BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB AND $195 LEFT OUT OF THE MEALS ON WHEELS SENIOR CENTER DINING ROOM REMODEL.

AND SO TO SUMMARIZE IF YOU WERE TO ADD UP ALL OF THE FUNDS TO BE BE REALLOCATED COLUMN WHAT WE NEED TO BE REALLOCATED THAT IS $74,000 BUT WE HAVE $124,000 THAT HAS NOT BEEN APPROFESSORRED YET WE'RE ASKING COUNCIL TO DON'T HAVE FUNDS TO GO THROUGH $51,000 ONCE WE GO THROUGH THE REIMBURSEMENT AND TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE BUT RIGHT NOW WE ONLY FORTURE HAVE 74,000 THAT WE ARE PROPOSING THAT WE WILL BE USING FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE, IF THE AMENDMENT IS APPROVED WITH AN ADDITIONAL ABOUT 50 THAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING OUT OF THAT 124 NOT BEING REIMBURSED LOOKING AT A TOTAL OF $120,000 TO GO INTO RENTAL ASSISTANCE WE THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE CLOSER TO THE $151 BECAUSE WE RECEIVED REIMBURSEMENTS WHAT WE'RE ASKING AGAIN TONIGHT IS CANCELLATION OF THOSE PROGRAMS AND THEN TO INCREASE THE BUDGET OF THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

SO JUST FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE OVERVIEW. IN OUR PAST WE USE OUT CB -- CDBG FUNDING AND RECEIVED TWO ROUNDS OF THE T- WRAP FUNDING WHICH IS THROUGH THE STATE.

AND THEN WE ARE ASKING FOR A BUDGET OF $151,000, BUT THAT WILL BE ACTUAL FUNDING AVAILABLE

WHICH RIGHT NOW WE'RE ESTIMATING TO BE $120,000. >> SO OUR RENTAL ASSISTANCE GUIDELINES FOR THIS LAST ROUND WE'RE ALSO ARE PROPOSING TO MAKE A FEW CHANGES.

ONE IS THAT YOU, OF COURSE WOULD HAVE TO MEET THE HOUSEHOLD INCOME LIMITATIONS.

SO FOR OUR FIRST CDBG ROUND, WE LIMITED THAT TO PEOPLE MAKING $30% INCOME FOR TERAP NO INCOME TO 80 PERCENT I'LL. YOU MUST HAVE A LOSS OF INCOME DUE TO COVID.

YOU CANNOT HAVE EVER RECEIVED ANY RENTAL ASSISTANCE BEFORE, SO THROUGH OUR FIRST PROGRAM, THROUGH TEXAS RENT RELIEF, THROUGH OUR TERAP PROGRAM OR LIVERED IN ANOTHER COMMUNITY AND RECEIVED ANY SORT OF RENTAL ASSISTANCE THROUGH MAYBE THEIR CZBG PROGRAM, MOVED HERE, GOT BEHIND ON YOUR RENT HERE WE WOULD CHECK WITH ALL OF THE STATE ARCHIVES TO MAKE SURE THAT

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THE OTHER WAS FOR SIX MONTHS OF ASSISTANCE. THESE BENEFITS ARE PAID DIRECTLY TO THE LANDLORD. THE LANDLORD DOES HAVE TO BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION.

AND THEN THE PROGRAM CANNOT START UNTIL HUD APPROVES THE AMENDMENT AND ALL OF OUR REIMBUZZMENTS ARE COMPLETED AND WE HAVE THAT EXACT DOLLAR FIGURE IN THE HUD SOFTWARE IDS.

BECAUSE OUR FIELD OFFICE DIRECTOR OUT OF SAN ANTONIO IS RETIRED AND WE HAVE AN INTERIM FIELD DIRECTOR OUT OF WASHINGTON THAT HAS SLOWED THINGS DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT.

SO IF COUNCIL APPROVES THIS TONIGHT, IT ENDS ALSO OUR PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD THAT WE PUBLISHED IN THE PAPER. AND THEN IF WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT OR PUBLIC HEARING AFTER WE'RE DONE AND WE WOULD SUBMIT TO HUD ON OR BEFORE MARCH 4THAND THEN LIKE I SAID ONCE WE RECEIVE THEIR APPROVAL WE CAN HOMEOME THE PROGRAM.

AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> JEWEL DILY, SO THE REALOE

CASE THE $151 YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. >>> WIRE ASKING FOR THE BUDGET TO BE $151,000, BUT THE REALLOCATION ONTO ACTUALLY BE -- IT WILL BE WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE AND WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE RITE NOW $74,000 ONCE WE PROCESS THE REST OF THE REIMBURSEMENT THERE WILL BE EXCESS FUNDS BECAUSE WE KNOW THOSE REIMBURSEMENTS ARE NOT ASKING FOR THE FULL AMOUNT. AND WE'LL HAVE THE ACT AMOUNT AND ESTIMATE IT TO BE $120,000.

>>> WHEN DO YOU THINK YOU'LL HAVE THAT FINALIZED ON THE REIMBURSEMENT?

>> BEFORE HUD GIVES US THE OKAY. SO HOPEFULLY BY MARCH 15TH, NEXT TWO WEEKS.

>> DID WE WRITE THESE GUIDELINES OR DID SOMEONE ELSE WRITE THEM FOR US?

>> WE WROTE THEM USING A LOT OF DIFFERENT EXAMPLES. >> WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO CHANGE

THEM. >> MY CONCERN IS THE LOSS OF INCOME DUE TO COVID.

>> THESE ARE CDBG FUND SO WE HAVE TO VIDEO HAVE A COVID TIEBACK.

>> SO HOW LONG AGO? >> THERE IS NO TIME LIMIT, SINCE THE PANDEMIC STARTED.

IF YOU CAN PROVE. >> THE LOSS CAME AND YOU'RE STILL.

>> AND YOU'RE STILL TRYING TO CATCH UP, EXACTLY. >> I'VE KIND OF STRUGGLED WITH THIS FROM MORE OF A FRAUD PERSPECTIVE. IF YOU GOT COVID AND YOU'RE VACCINATED YOU NEED BE OUT FIVE DAYS, RIGHT. SO IF YOU ARE A WEEKLY WAGE EARNER AND LOST A WEEK'S WORTH OF PAY. SO THE PART THAT I'VE BEEN STRUGGLING WITH IN THIS PROGRAM IS WHY A 3-MONTH DURATION OF RENTAL ASSISTANCE IF YOU'VE LOST

ONE WEEK. >> NOW CERTAINLY PEOPLE COULD BE AFFECTED BY COVID DIFFERENTLY AND BE OUT LONGER BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THREE MONTHS IS THE RIGHT DURATION.

AND THERE IS NOTHING THIS PROGRAM RIGHT NOW THAT SHOWS ANY MEDICAL PROOF OF COVID.

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS ATTEST TO THE FACT THAT YOU HAD COVID. >> OF COURSE, YOUR EMPLOYER COULD HAVE HAD A COVID SITUATION AND CANCELED WORK. SO I GUESS I'M TRYING TO FIT IT ALL TOGETHER AND I SEE WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM. BUT THAT IS JUST KIND OF BROAD.

THE BIGGER CONCERN IS, THAT HOPE. LY, PRAYERS WE'RE GOING TO SEE LESS AND LESS OF THAT AND SO I'M WONDERING IF THAT IS THE APPROPRIATE MEASURE FOR THIS PROGRAM. BUT THAT IS WHY YOU'RE SAYING IT HAS TO BE TIED TO COVID IN SOME

WAY. >>> WE SMALL THE FIRST ROUNDS A LOT, IS ONCE SOMEONE GETS BEHIND IT IS VERY, VERY HARD FOR THEM TO GET OUT OF IT, BECAUSE SOME OF THESE LEASES HAVE LATE FEES OF LIAR $35 A DAY. EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE PAYING THEIR LANDLORD, NOT THE FULL AMOUNT, IT WAS LATE, THEY HAVE A REALLY HARD TIME EVER CATCHING UP. THAT IS REALLY WHERE THE THREE-MONTHS HELPS. WE WORKED WITH A LOT OF LANDLORDS TOO, MANY WILL WAIVE A LOT OF THOSE LATE FEES BUT BUT THAT IS THE MOST PREVALENT EXAMPLE THAT WE SAW IS THAT THEY ARE JUST GET SO FAR BEHIND EVEN WITH MAYBE A WEEK OR TWO OUT OF WORK.

>> AND THEN SECONDLY, HAVING NEVER RECEIVED ASSISTANCES AT ALL.

PART OF THE GUIDELINES IS A REQUIREMENT. >> THAT WOULD BE A CHANGE.

O THAT WE'RE MAKING TO THE GUIDELINE. >> JUST BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY HAS

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TO QUALIFY FOR THIS PROGRAM, AGAIN, I'M JUST CONCERNED. >> THE CDBG HAS A 6 MONTH MAX GUIDELINE AND TIED TO FAIR MARKET RENT. AND SO WE WANT TO ONLY HELP NEW PEOPLE BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO GET IN A SITUATION OF, CHASING REIMBURSEMENTS IF WE FIND THAT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, WE OVERPAID THEM AND SO REALLY IT MAKES IT A LOT EASIER FOR US TO

RUN AND PROCESS THE PROGRAM TO ONLY ACCEPT NEW CLIENTS. >> IF A PERSON IS OUT OF A WEEK OR CHILD HAS COVID THAT MOTHER, THAT FATHER, THAT PARENT MAY BE THERE AS WELL EXTENDING THAT TIME VERSUS JUST THEM, IT JUST SAYS LOSS OF INCOME DUE TO COVID NOT PERSONALLY RELATED.

JUST THROW THAT OUT THERE, THAT MAY EXTEND THAT TIME FRAME. SO.

>> YEAH, I KNOW OF A FAMILY, WE ALL THINK ABOUT EVERYBODY IN THE FAMILY HAVING IT AT ONCE BUT IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY. YOU'VE GOT THE WEEK THEY HAVE IT AND THEN THE QUARANTINE AND THEN THE NEXT PERSON HAS IT AND THE QUARANTINE IS BACK AGAIN AND IT GOES ON.

>> SEEN IT FIRSTHAND JO I HAVE, TOO. >> THE OTHER QUESTION I WANTED TO BRING UP, AND SPEAKING AND HEARING FROM JPS, THE EVICTIONS RATE ISN'T EVEN BACK TO WHERE IT WAS IN 2019. IT IS BELOW THAT WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED CONSIDERED A NORMAL TIME, I GUESS. I DON'T KNOW IF WHICH KNOW WHAT NORMAL IS ANYMORE.

SO SOMEONE MAY QUESTION WHY ARE WE STILL DOING THIS AND, YOU KNOW, SOME OF IT WE HAVE THE FUNDING IT IS CDBG FUNDING, AROUND OPTION OF HERE OR DONEFLATION TO THE FOOD BANK, BUT IN SOME WAY, SPENDING IT WISELY TO HELP THOSE AFFECTED BY COVID, I JUST DON'T -- I KNOW THERE ARE PLENTY OF EMPLOYERS IN TOWN THAT ARE HURTING FOR EMPLOYEES.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T PERPETUATE THE PROBLEM OF PEOPLE NOT GOING BACK TO WORK OR ANYTHING ALONG THOIS LINES AND I DON'T WANT THIS PROGRAM TO BE A PART OF THAT.

SO THAT IS WHEN I LOOK AT IT FROM A FRAUD PER SPECTIVE, EWANT TO MAKE SURE IT HELPS THOSE THAT NEED THE HELP AND AS TIGHT AS POSSIBLE A MANNER AND DOESN'T ALLOW FOR ABUSE OF IT WHICH IS WHY I REALLY WANTED THE MEDICAL PROOF OF COVID, BECAUSE I JUST DON'T WANT ANYBODY JUST TO SAY, OH, YEAH, I HAD COVID WHEN THEY FILL OUT THE FORM AND THEY HAVE NO PROOF THERE IS COVID, NO WAY TO GO CHECK OR DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I THINK SOME MORE TIGHTERNING UP. AND I UNDERSTAND AND AGREE WITH YOUR ARGUMENT ABOUT MULTIPLES IN

A HOUSE HOLE. THAT MAKES SENSE ASK E. >> BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE COULDN'T CAP THIS PROGRAM AT, YOU KNOW, STARTING MARCH 15TH AND WE'RE DONE BY JUNE 15TH, AND WHATEVER MONEY IS LEFT OVER AT THAT POINT GOES TO THE FOOD BANK IS THAT

SOMETHING THAT IS FEASIBLE? >> SO DEFINITELY, I WOULD BE -- IT WOULD BE REALLY EASY FOR US TO OPEN THE APPLICATION WINDOW FOR, 30, 60, 90 DAYS, BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH ALL THE APPLICATIONS IN THAT TIME FRAME, BUT WE COULD STOP APPLICATIONS AND IF THERE IS ANY MONEY LEFT OVER AFTER WE HAVE WORKED THROUGH THE APPLICATION, THEN REALLOCATE THAT, BUT I DO WORRY THIS IS -- WE DON'T HAVE THAT TEMPORARY STAFF PERSON ANYMORE SO WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS ABOUT HOW WE SHOULD REALLOCATE THIS MONEY, THE SELFISH PART OF US SAYS LET'S JUST GIVE IT TO THE FOOD BANK BECAUSE THAT MAKES IT A LOT EASIER FOR US.

IT IS A SIMPLE CONTRACT. THERE IS DEFINITELY GOING TO BE SOME BURDEN ON OUR STAFF TO INTAKE ALL OF THESE. SO WE COULD OPEN UP THE APPLICATION PERIOD FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, BUT WE MIGHT NOT STILL BE ABLE TO WORK THROUGH ALL THOSE APPLICATIONS IN THAT TIME

FRAME. >> I FOUND IT CURIOUS THAT SOME OF THIS WAS COMING FROM UNUSED FUND OR UTILITY HELP. SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT, I GUESS IT IS EASIER TO KEEP YOUR UTILITIES ON WHILE IN THE HOUSE AND PAY THAT AND YOU DON'T NEED THE ASSISTANCE?

>> THE UTILITIES IF A LOT OF RENTAL UNIS -- UNITS INCLUDE UTILITIES.

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>>> JULIE WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CARES CDBG ALLOTMENT? IS IT THE SAME?

DID IT CHANGE? >> THERE ARE DIFFERENT GUIDELINES A LOT OF THEM HAVE BEEN RELAXED. USUALLY WE HAVE THE 15% CAP ON PUBLIC SERVICE ACTIVITIES WERE WE DON'T HAVE A CAP ON THESE FUNDS. THE MAIN THING ABOUT THESE FUNDS

IS THERE HAS TO BE A TIE BACK TO COVID. >> THIS IS NOT TRACK SENSITIVE.

IN ORDER IT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO TO THE LOW-INCOME TAX? TRACK.

>> IT DOES HAVE TO GO TO HELPING LOW-INCOME INDIVIDUALS. YOU STILL HAVE TO MEET THE

INCOME GUIDELINES BUT IN RESPONSE OR PREVENTION OF COVID. >> IT IS SEPARATE FROM THE

REGULAR CDBG FUNDS THE CITY GET. >> THE PROGRAMS THAT WE USUALLY DEDICATE TOWARDS TRACKS LIKE DEMOLITION OR LIKING, THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE A TIE BACK TO COVID. WE HAVEN'T REALLY RUN PROGRAMS LIKE THAT, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT PREPARATION, RESPONSE OR PREVENTION TO COVID TIEBACK.

>> OKAY, SO THIS MONEY IS FOR US TO USE FOR THIS AND IF WE DON'T USE IT IT DOESN'T GO BACK TO THE

GOVERNMENT? >> IT GOES BACK. WE HAVE UNTIL DECEMBER 31ST OF THIS YEAR, 2022 TO SPEND THE FUNDS -- OR IT IS '23? '23.

2023 TO EXPEND THE FUNDS BUT WE'RE DOWN TO 124 THAT HASN'T BEEN EXPENDED AND $74,000 THAT WE WANT TO REALLOCATE IMMEDIATELY. WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO CLOSE

THIS GRANT OUT. >> I'M CURIOUS FROM A DAD THAT POINT, OF THOSE THAT HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED THIS HOW MANY ENDED UP BEING EVICTEDVICTED ANW MANY ENDED UP GET GETTING TO STAY? I WANTED TO SEE HOW EFFICIENT THE PROGRAM IS AND HOW SUCCESSFUL THE PROGRAM IS. THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING TO NOTE IS THE MONEY BEING SPENT

WISELY. >> THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION WHETHER IT JUST BOUGHT ANOTHER THREE MONTHS AND OR WHETHER IT DID PUT THEM OVER THE HUMP THAT NEEDED.

>> THREE MONTHS IS BETTER THAN BEING OUT IN THE STREET. I MEAN.

>>> BUT THE PURPOSE OF THE PROGRAM IS TO HELP PEOPLE MAKE UP WHEN THEY HAVE HAD COVID AND

THEY LOST THEIR INCOME AND THEY MAY NEED TO GET BACK ON TRACK. >>> IT MAY NOT BE ENOUGH TO GET BACK ON TRACK WHAT IF THEY'RE FOUR MONTHS BEHIND. AND IF YOU'RE IN A 30% OF MEDIAN INCOME IT WOULD BE HARD TO MAKE IT UP DEPENDING ON YOUR SITUATION.

>>> IT IS ALL DEPENDING ON YOUR RENT. >> DEPENDING ON YOUR SITUATION.

>>> THAT INFORMATION IS PROBABLY IN THE APPLICATIONS THAT IF WE REALLY WANTED TO DIG INTO IT, WE

COULD ASK. >> SO LET ME ASK, I'M WILLING TO CAP CAP PIT CHU LATE ON THE THREE MONTHS ANYONE FOR MEDICAL PROOF OF COVID?

>> I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO APPLY MIGHT HAVE A HARD TIME FINDING THE MEDICAL PROOF.

>> OR THE WAY THEY'RE GOING TO KNOW THEY HAVE COIFFE SYD GET TESTED.

>> IF THEY'VE GOTTEN TESTED THE RESULTS SHOULD BE GOOD ENOUGH NOT A LETTER FROM AN ACTUAL DOCTOR, THEY WENT TO A LAB AND THE LAB SAID, YEP, YOU HAVE BEEN SICK FOR THE LAST FIVE DAYS

BECAUSE YOU'VE HAD COVID. THAT SHOULD BE SUFFICIENT. >> PROOF OF COVID POSITIVE

ANYBODY IN THE FAMILY, CHILDREN. >> BUT NOT JUST PUTTING IT ON AN APPLICATION.

>> DEFINE PROOF OF COVID, BRING IN THE TEST? >> POSITIVE TEST.

>> POSITIVE TEST RESULTS. >> SAME THING YOU WOULD HAVE TO TURN INTO YOUR EMPLOYER, RIGHT?

>> GOING BACK FOR TWO YEARS MAY BE DIFFICULT TO FIND A PIECE OF PAPER.

>> EVERYONE HAS HOME TESTS NOW THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ORIGINALLY. >> THERE ISN'T A TEST THAT CAN

TELL YOU THAT YOU'VE HAD COVID? MY DAUGHTER TOOK IT. >> ANTIBODIES TEST.

>> BUT HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, YOUR ANTIBODIES GOING TO WANE SO THAT YOU COULD HAVE THEM WITH THE

VACCINE. >>> WE COULD REQUIREETHTER POSITIVE TEST OR CIRCUMSTANCES

DOCUMENTING IT. >> BECAUSE IT IS A LOSS OF INCOME, WE'VE ALSO WHEN WE WE HAVE TO DO THEIR INCOME DETERMINATION. YOU COULD SEE THEY DON'T HAVE

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THE INCOME. >> YOU DON'T KNOW WHY? >> BUT YOU DON KNOW WHY?

>> AN A LETTER FROM THE EMPLOYER SAYING, YES, HE WAS OUT DUE TO COVID FOR A MONTH.

>> SOMETHING. >> SOMETHING OTHER THAN FILLING IT OUT AND SAY I HAD COVID OR MY CHILD OR PARENT OR SPOUSE HAD COVID AND WE LOST MONEY. Y'ALL WITH OKAY WITH SOME TYPE

OF VERSION OF COVID SINCE IT HAS TO BE TIED BACK TO COVID? >> YEAH.

>> THE QUESTION SHOULD BE ON THERE, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'LL VERIFY IT.

>> RIGHT NOW IT IS JUST I EXPERIENCED A LOSS OF COVID AND CHECK THE BOX.

>>> WE HAVE RECEIVED LETTERS IN THE PAST FROM EMPLOYERS, AND I WILL SAY AS YOU SIT DOWN WITH SOMEONE, IT IS VERY CLEAR WHETHER THEY'RE DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO GET AHEAD OR WHETHER THEY'RE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY SCAM US. AND IF INCOME DETERMINATION REQUIREMENTS ALL THE PAPERWORK REQUIREMENTS, REALLY PUSH A LOT OF PEOPLE AWAY BECAUSE THEY

THINK IT IS TOO MUCH WORK. ASK Y'ALL HAVE A DIRECTION? >> WHAT WAS YOUR QUESTION IN.

>> SHOULD WE HAVE SOME FORM OF PROOF OF COVID TO CORROBORATE A PERSONAL STATEMENT?

>> WELL, I WOULD SAY THAT, BECAUSE THESE ARE FEDERAL FUNDS AND IT IS WHATEVER THEY REQUIRE.

IF THEY DON'T REQUIRE THAT WE ASK THE QUESTION OR HAVE PROOF, WHATEVER WILL ACCOMMODATE THE GRANT, WHATEVER THE GRANT REQUIRES. I THINK THAT THE WHAT WE SHOULD GO BY. BECAUSE THOSE ARE FEDERAL GRANTS.

SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE SHOULD MAKE IT EVEN MORE STRICTER. BECAUSE THEY COME WITH

DIRECTION. >> BUT IF WE DON'T ADMINISTER IT, IF IT IS A FEDERAL REQUIREMENT AND WE DON'T ADMINISTER IT PROPERLY, THEN WE'LL BE PAYING THE FEDERAL FUNDS BACK. SOY AM IN FAVOR OF MAKING SURE WE'RE COMPLYING WITH THE

REQUIREMENT. >> YES, A SWORN AFFIDAVIT COMPLIES WITH THE HUD REQUIREMENTS. BUT WE CAN IN ADDITION TO THAT REQUIRE SOMETHING FROM THEIR EMPLOYER OR A TEST, ONE OOR THE OTHER. OF COURSE, THE EMPLOYER CAN

ALWAYS. >>> THEY MAY HAVE SEEN A DOCTOR, THEY MAY HAVE A DOCTOR NOTE.

THEY MAY HAVE A POSITIVE TEST, SOMETHING FROM THE EMPLOYER I DON'T WANT TO LIMIT IT AND I KNOW THAT MAKES IT HARDER FOR YOU TO ADMINISTER, BUT I THINK THERE SHOULD BE SOME EFFORT TO

MAKE SURE IT IS RELATED. >> WE'RE TRYING TO SPEND THE FUNDS AND TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE MAKING LESS THAN PROBABLY 50% OF LESS THAN THE MEDIAN INCOME. YOU'RE PUTTING MORE HARDSHIP ON THEM, MORE WORK ON OUR STAFF. AND I SAY THE GOVERNMENT REGULATIONS IS ALL WE NEED TO

FOLLOW. >>> I AGREE. >> I GUESS MY THOUGHT IS WE MAY

NOT ACTUALLY END UP SPENDING ALL OF THIS MONEY ON THIS PROGRAM. >> ARE YOU WILLING TO SEND IT

BACK? IS. >> NO, WE'LL ALLOCATE IT THROUGH THE FOOD BANK OR HEARD A LOT OF PROGRAMS TODAY THAT WE MIGHT NEED.

>> I THINK THE FOOD BANK WAS ONE OF THOSE ITEMS. >> WE'VE GIVE EVERYONE THEM $300

THOUSAND. >> BUT THIS ANY UNSPENT FUNDS ON THIS COULD GO TO THE FOOD BANK,

JUST REALLOCATING IT AGAIN. >> THERE ARE OTHER PLACES IT COULD BE REALLOCATED LIKE THE

SALVATION, ARMY DON'T THEY HAVE A PROJECT GOING ON, TOO? >> IT COULD GO ANYWHERE.

>> MAYBE NOT THESE FUNDS, I'M NOT SURE. >>> SO WE ARE AT THE POINT OF OPENING A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT WE HAVE THREE MONTHS. WE DON'T HAVE SEEMS LIKE ANY TYPE OF CONSENSUS TO CHANGE THE -- I HEARD 3:3, WE'LL LEAVE IT AS IT IS FOR PROOF OF COVID.

WE'RE GOING WITH THE PROGRAM AS IS IS A GREAT DISCUSSION, I APPRECIATE.

>>> WE'RE GOING 3 THREE MONTHS FROM WHEN WE OPEN IT. WE'LL OPEN THE APPLICATION AND CLOSE IT, BUT WE WON'T OPEN IT AND DO A PRESS RELEASE, WE WON'T OPEN IT UNTIL WE HAVE A PROOF BY

HUD. >> A 3-MONTH WINDOW FOR APPLICATION SUBMISSION AND WE'LL

SPEND IT UNTIL IT IS GONE IN THAT THREE MONTHS. >> WILL WE HAVE TO AMEND AGAIN?

>> NO JO TO GIVE TO THE FOOD BANK. >> IF IT IS BELOW $100 THOUSAND.

IT WOULD BE A MINOR AMENDMENT. >>> OKAY. LET'S OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING

ON ITEM C 3 THING WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? >> THIS IS A GOOD BREAK IN THE CONVERSATION FOR US JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MINUTES WE FLECT THAT COUNCIL MEMBER YOUNG ARRIVED AT 6:05:00 P.M. WE WANT TO MIKE SURE HIS VOTE COUNT.

>> THANK YOU. >> GOOD EVENING, BETHANY. >> HELLO, UNPLANNED APPEARANCE,

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THAT IS THE REASON WHY THESE FUNDS WERE CANCELED FOR THAT SPECIFIC PURPOSE.

BUT, I WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF SPEAK TO SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED FOR THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING IN THE COMMUNITY OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS. I'M SORRY, I TALK VERY FAST AND FORGET TO BREATHE.

I APOLOGIZE. WE ARE SEEING PROBABLY I WOULD SAY ONE OF THE BIGGEST SURGES IN NEED FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE BECAUSE OF THE OMICRON SURGE THAT HAPPENED RECENTLY.

EVEN SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE PANDEMIC. THERE WERE SO MANY RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS OUT THERE. THERE ARE SO MUCH KIND OF UNEMPLOYMENT ASSISTANCE, THINGS LIKE THAT. PEOPLE WERE ABLE TO KEEP UP. AND NOW ALL OF THAT HELP HAS GONE AWAY. SO I WOULD LOVE TO KIND OF ECHO WHAT MS. SCOTT AND DR. YOUNG WERE SAYING, WE'RE SEEING PEOPLE HOURLY WAGE WORKERS HAVING TO TAKE OFF FOUR, FIVE WEEKS BECAUSE OF MILD COVID CASES BUT RUNNING THROUGH THEIR HOUSEHOLD AND JUST RUNNING RAMPANT.

AND SO IT CAN BE A WHOLE MONTH'S WORTH OF WAGES THAT ARE LOST JUST BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, SIMPLE CASES, SIMPLE TESTS THE EMPLOYERS ARE SAYING PLEASE, DON'T COME BACK.

I DON'T THINK THAT WE WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM USING THE FUNDS IN THREE MONTHS.

I JUST WANT TO PUBLICLY -- AND I'M SORRY I WAS EXPECTED A 3-MINUTE TIMER, YIM GOING SUPER FAST. I WANT TO GIVE A HUGE SHOUTOUT TO OUR CDBG DEPARTMENT.

I'VE HEARD FROM PEOPLE ACROSS THE STATE, OTHER UNITED WAYS THAT THEY HAVE STILL BEEN SITTING ON THESE FUNDS AND NOT QUITE EXPENDING THEM FOR RENTAL PURPOSES.

CAN YOU IMAGINE. CAN YOU IMAGINE THE HOLES THAT THEIR CITIZENS ARE IN AFTER MONTHS OF WAITING? AND SO I WANT TO COMMEND IS AND JUST ENCOURAGE THEM BECAUSE THEY DID SUCH A GREAT JOB OF GETTING FUNDS TO PEOPLE THAT NEEDED THEM QUICKLY.

AND I DON'T THINK WE'LL HAVE ANY PROBLEM USING THESE FUNDS FOR PEOPLE THAT DO NEED THEM AND

DOING THAT QUICKLY AS WELL. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MS. CASTRO.

>> OKAY, ANYBODY ON ITEM C 3? SEEING NO ONE ELSE I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON C 3 AND

ENTERTAIN ANY MOTIONS. >> MOVE WE ADOPT C 3. >>> I'LL SECOND.

>> MOTION TO ADOPT C 3 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AAYE. >> 85.

[4. An ordinance declaring unopposed candidates elected to the offices of ...]

>> THOSE OPPOSE SAME SIGN. ALL RIGHT, ITEM C 4. >>> ITEM C 4 IS AN ORDINANCE DECLARING UNOPPOSED CANDIDATES ELECTED TO THE OFFICES OF MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT 5.

>> I'VE GOT TO READ IT IN SPANISH.

>> TY, I PROBABLY SHOU DONE THAT ONE -- I PROBLEM SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT ONE.

>> I DID NOT PREPARE A PRESENTATION BUT I'LL ANSWER QUESTIONS.

>> LET ME OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM C 4, ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK PLEASE COME TO THE MICROPHONE. SEEING NO ONE WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> SO MOVE. >> SECOND.

>> A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE ITEM C 4, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

SEEING NONE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE THOSE OPPOSE SAME SIGN.

>>> I WOULD LIKE TO CONGRATULATE THE GENTLEMEN ON EITHER SIDE OF ME.

>> THANK YOU. >> I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT COULD SAY IT JUST LIKE THAT.

[D. Consent Agenda:]

>> ALL RIGHT, ONTO THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> D 1 IS THE ADOPT OF MINUTES FROM 10 IF FINTH, 2022 REGULAR MEETING D 2 APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF ONE, 220 MASSEY FERGUSON 5711, 4 BY 4 CAB TRACTOR FROM VICTORIA FARM EQUIPMENT IN MA'AM OF $60,925.

>> D 3 APPROVE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT TO PARTICIPATE IN REGION SEXUAL ASSAULT RESPONSE TEAM D 4 REAPPOINT MEMBERS OF BOARD OFFED A JUSTMENTS AND APPEALS.

>> D 5 APPROVE A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH FLOODACE LLC FOR PAVEMENT ANALYSIS SERVICES FOR 2023 RESIDENTIAL STREET PROGRAM AND 2023 MILL/OVERLAY PROJECTS IN AMOUNT

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OF $100,885. >> Z 6 APPROVE ELECTION AND RELEASE FORM OF JOINT TEXAS OPOID LITIGATION SETTLEMENTS OF TEVA PHARMACEUTICAL INDUSTRIES LTD, AND ENDO HEALTH SOLUTIONS D 7 APPROVING THE SALE OF 6 FIN.6N BEN JORDAN STREET TO PASADENA LAND HOLDINGS FOR TOTAL PRICE OF

$FAVOR00 THOUSAND. >>> I PROVE MOVE WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS READ.

>>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

[1. Appeal of a variance request to Section 20-83(a) for a property locate...]

>>> AYE. >>> THOSE OPPOSE SAME SIGN. >>> MOTION CARRIES ITEM E 1 AND BEFORE WE START PRESENTATION OR ANYTHING, I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN UP THE CITIZENS COMMUNICATION

AFTER SHE READS IT JUST TO HAVE MR. TAYLOR SPEAK REAL QUICK. >> ITEM E 1 IS A RESOLUTION DENYING AN APPEAL OF A VARIANCE REQUEST TO SECTION 20-83A FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3211

NORTH NAVARRO STREET. >>> AT THIS TIME I OPEN UP CITIZEN COMMUNICATION AGAIN.

>> GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK BRIEFLY. MY NAME IS TOMMY TAYLOR AND I'M HERE TO DISCUSS WITH YOU THIS EVENING THE VARIANCE THAT WE HAVE REQUESTED AT 3211 NORTH NAVARRO.

IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING A PERMIT FOR SOME WORK THAT WE ARE PERFORMING IN THE BACK OF OUR FACILITY AND OUR PAINT AND BODY SHOP, THE CITY DETERMINED THE NEED FOR SITE PLAN, WHICH IN TURN FLAKED THE FIRST DRIVEWAY ON THE LEFT AS YOU TURN ONTO INDUSTRIAL DRIVE THIS DRIVEWAY IS BEING REQUESTED TO BE CLOSED. AND WE SUBMITTED A VARIANCE REQUEST FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

AND WE ARE IN OPPOSITION OF THIS CLOSURE FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS.

PRIMARY, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE A PROBLEM THAT DOESN'T EXIST.

THE DRIVEWAY IS NOT ANYWHERE NEAR THE SIDE OF WORK THAT IS BEING DONE AT OUR FACILITY.

THE ONLY OTHER BUSINESS BESIDES THAT IS ON INDUSTRIAL IS SUDDEN LINK.

AND THEY HAVE VERY LITTLE TRAFFIC COMING AND GOING TO THAT DIS, JUST A DAVID DAILY WORKERS THAT COME AND GO AND A FEW PEOPLE THAT GO BACK THERE TO PAY THEIR BILLS SO MOST ALL TRAFFIC THAT IS TURNING ONTO INDUSTRIAL THROUGHOUT THE DAY IS COMING TO -- I FEEL LIKE THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT FOR US IS CLOSURE OF THIS DRIVEWAY IN QUESTION WOULD NEGATIVELY AFFECT OUR ABILITY TO MOVE VEHICLE INVENTORY AROUND THE LOT. AND AS YOU ARE ALL PROBABLY AWARE, INVENTORY RIGHT NOW IS A CHALLENGE AND BEING ABLE TO FREELY MOVE OUR INVENTORY AROUND OR NOT BEING ABLE TO FREELY MOVE OUR INVENTORY AROUND COULD PRESENT A FINANCIAL HARDSHIP FOR THE DEALERSHIP. SINCE THIS DRIVEWAY WAS BROUGHT INTO QUESTION.

WE'VE BEEN MONITORING THE USAGE OF IT AND HAVEN'T SEEN MUCH OF ANY OR AT ALL TRAFFIC THROUGH THE ENTRANCE AT QUESTION. THE MAJORITY OF THE TRAFFIC TURNING ONTO INDUSTRIAL IS GOING DEEPER INTO THE LOT MOSTLY TO SURE SERVICE AREA LOCATED MID-BLOCK.

THIS EVENING WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOU TO APPROVE THE VARIANCE AND ALLOW THE DRIVEWAY

TO REMAIN OPEN. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MR. TAYLOR I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEAR UNLESS MR. JAKEOB, GOOD TO SEE YOU, UNLESS YOU WANTED TO GET UP AND

SPEAK GOOD TO SEE YOU ANYWAY. >> CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING, CITIZEN COMMUNICATION AND GO INTO ANY

PRESENTATION. >> I THINK MR. TAYLOR SUMMED IT UP PRETTY WELL SO A SITE PLAN, OF COURSE, TRIGGERED COMPLY EANES OF THE SITE AND WE LOOKED AT YOU KNOW, ALL ASPECTS OF IF SITE AND IT WAS FOUND THAT EVERYTHING WAS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE DRIVEWAY.

DRIVEWAYS SHOULD BE SET OFF OF PRIMARY MATERIALS WHICH NAVARRO IS AND TO A MUCH GREATER EXTENT TO PREVENT ANY STACKING OF POTENTIALLY ON NAVARRO AS PEOPLE TRY TO TURN OFF AND IMMEDIATELY TURN INTO THE DRIVEWAY. FORETHOSE REASONS, FOR THE SAFETY REASON OF STAFF AND PLANNING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND DENIAL. I HAVE A FEW PICTURES OF THE INTERSECTION FOR YOU ALL TOLL HAVE A GOOD PICTURE. SO IT IS THE DRIVEWAY ON THE

SIDE OF THE STOP SIGN I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> WHERE IS THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION THAT TRIGGERED THE CITY TO REQUEST THE SITE VARIANCE OR SITE PLAN?

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>> DO YOU SEE THE SQUARE IN THE MIDDLE? YES IN THAT GENERAL AREA.

>> BUT POINT, WITH YOUR CURSOR, AGAIN, NOW WHERE IS THE DRIVEWAY?

UP CLOSER TO THE INTERSECTION. >> FARTHER UPKEEP GOING, KEEP GOING, KEEP GOING.

>>> ONLY AT THE CORNER 20 FEET. >>> YOU ONLY HAVE THE MAIN LOT OUTLINED IN YELLOW, BUT ISN'T ACROSS THE STREET IS THAT ALL ADDSON OFFER? DOESN'T THIS ROAD GO STRAIGHT

DOWN THE CENTER. >> YES, DOES HAVE PROPERTY ON THE ERR SIDE, BUT WE VIEWED IT

AS A DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT. >> I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. IT IS ALL ADDSON HOFFER

PROPERTY, CORRECT? >> YES JRKS EVEN AT THE VERY TOP OF THE PICTURE?

>> YES SO SUDDEN SLINK IN THE VERY BACK BUT I THINK THEY OWN THE VACANT LOTS AS WELL.

WE JUST ANALYZE THE DEVELOPED SITE FOR THE SIDE PLAN. >> I GUESS THAT SHOWS THAT THERE

IS THE POTENTIAL FOR MORE DEVELOPMENT BACK THERE. >> UH-HUH.

>> HOW MUCH DRIVEWAYS ARE IN THE YELLOW. >> 1, TWO, THREE, 4 I BELIEVE

APPROXIMATELY 8. >> DRIVEWAY? >> BUT I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK A

LITTLE CLOSER. >> DO WE HAVE IN CRASH DATA ON NAVARRO THAT RELATES TO STACKING

IN THAT AREA? >> NO, I DID NOT PULL ANY CRASH DATA?

>> I CAN'T EVER RECALL ANY STACKING ISSUES. BECAUSE IF YOU -- IF SOMEONE IS QUEUED UP TO TAKE A RIDE ON NAVARRO, IT USED TO TAKE A LOT LONGER TO TAKE A LEFT ON NAVARRO, THEY GO DOWN TO THE NEXT DRIVEWAY OR THE NEXT DRIVEWAY, WHICH SEVERE MORE CONVENIENT TO WHICHEVER PART THEY'RE GOING AND THIS IS MORE OF AN INTERNAL USE DRIVEWAY THAN A TURN-IN FOR SOMEONE COMING OFF OF NAVARRO BASED ON STACKING ISSUE IN IS MORE OF A STACKING

ISSUE AT VERA CRUZ THAN THERE IS HERE. >> THAT'S TRUE.

>>> AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO CLOSE THEIR DRIVEWAY ON NAVARRO BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE THEIR

STACKING IS OCCURING. >> THIS IS WHY WE HAVE ORDINANCES AND THIS IS WHY WHEN THEY'RE TRIGGERED WE SOMETIMES HAVE THESE SITUATIONS WHERE WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO IMPROVE

SAFETY. >> WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO IMPROVE IF THERE AREN'T ANY CRASH? WHAT ARE YOU IMPROVING? YOU'RE CREATING A HARDSHIP FOR SOMEONE BECAUSE BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING A MINOR ADDITION OF A CAR PORT TO ACCOMMODATE SOMETHING IN A BUILDING THAT HAS -- THIS IS WHERE I HAVE PROBLEM WITH YOUR DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT WHY WOULD A BUSINESS OWNER WANT TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THIS. IT JUST CREATES MORE PROBLEMS FOR THEMSELVES BY ADDING A SMALL METAL STRUCTURE THAT IS A CAR PORT I MEAN, YOU'RE DISINCENTIVIZING BUSINESS OWNERS BY TRYING TO PUSH SOME OF THESE, WHERE OUR DEVELOPMENT CODE HAS ISSUES AND WE'RE TRYING TO WORK ON AND MAKE IT MORE FRIENDLY AND MORE UNDERSTANDING OF SMALL LITTLE ALTERATIONS LIKE THIS THAT DON'T TRIGGER BIG SITE PLAN ISSUES. IT MAY BE DECADES OLD.

>> MOST OF THE TRAFFIC BACKUP ON INDUSTRIAL OCCURS WHEN THE MIDDIAN WAS NOT THERE, BUT NOW THAT WE HAVE A MEDIAN, MOST OF THE CARS COME UP AND TAKE A RIDE AND THEY'RE GONE.

>> IS THERE A CURB CUT IN THE MEDIAN THERE? >> THERE IS, THERE IS A BIGGER CONCERN THERE, BECAUSE IT IS A NO U-TURN AND IT IS MORE OF A SAFETY HAZARD FROM EVERYBODY

DOING U-TURN THERE. >> WE DON'T HAVE CRASH DATA, BUT I DO REMEMBER FROM THE NAVARRO MEDIAN STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS, OFFERED TO DO A STUDY AND I THINK IT WAS ABOUT 1700 CARS WHICH PROMPTED TXDOT TO PROVIDE THAT CURB CUT THERE IS THE NUMBER OF CARS.

>> RIGHT, BUT IT IS NOT A U-TURN, IT IS A LEFT-TURN LANE. >> LEFT TURN.

>> EXACTLY. >> AND I THINK THE IMMEDIATIAN TOOK CARE OF THAT.

>> THAT IS WHY THERE IS A BREAK THERE BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF CAR TURNING ON INDUSTRIAL.

>> SO THE ISSUE ISN'T RIGHT NOW FOR THE CITY. THE ITS SLEW IS FOR THE OWNER RIGHT NOW. BUT IF THERE WERE MORE DEVELOPMENT AND MORE TRAFFIC OFFEND THAT ROAD, THEN THERE WOULD BE AN ISSUE FOR THE CITY AS WELL AS THE ISSUE -- TWO DIFFERENT ISSUES. THERE IS NOT MUCH TRAFFIC RIGHT NOW, THAT IS WHY YOU'RE SAYING THERE IS NOT MUCH STACKING. BUT THERE IS FUTURE POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

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>> YOU ALSO SAID THAT NOT VERY MANY PEOPLE USE THE DRIVEWAY AND HE'S GOT EIGHT DRIVEWAYS?

HOW MANY DRIVEWAYS DO -- >> AND THAT DRIVEWAY IS BLOCKED IF THERE IS A CAR STOPPED THERE AT THE STOP SIGN, SO THE CARS COMING ONTO NAVARRO TAKING A RIGHT AREN'T GOING TO USE THAT

DRIVEWAY ANYWAY SO THE. >> WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE ACCURATE TRAFFIC COUNTS OF HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE TURNING FLIGHT OR RIGHT OUT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T COLLECT THOSE FOR THIS.

>> THAT IS KIND OF I AGREE WITH IT IS A SOLUTION TO A PROBLEM THAT DOESN'T EVEN EXIST.

>> RIGHT. >> ANYMORE QUESTIONS FOR MS. FULLHAM?

ING. >> THANK YOU. >> A MOTION AND WE CAN STILL

CONTINUE DISCUSSION AFTER A MOTION. >> I MOVE THAT WE DENY THE VARIANCE AND I'M NOT SURE WHETHER THAT MOONS APPROVE THE MOTION AS WRITTEN, WHICH IS A

DENIAL. >> YES, MA'AM, THANK YOU FOR ASKING THE QUESTION.

THE RESOLUTION IS WRITTEN TO DENY THE VARIANCE SO IF YOU APPROVE THE RESOLUTION AS WRITTEN, THEN YOU ARE DENYING THE VARIANCE AND UPHOLDING THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RULING.

BECAUSE WE DO NEED AN ACTION ON THE RECORD. WE DON'T WANT TO JUST VOTE SOMETHING DOWN. IT APPEARS AS THOUGH THE DIRECTION OF COUNCIL MIGHT BE CLEAN LEANING AGAINST THIS MOTION. I RECOMMEND YOU GO AHEAD AND GET A MOTION ON YOUR SECOND TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTIONTO DENYING THE VARIANCE AND SOMEONE MAKE A MOTION IF THEY WANT TO AMEND THE RESOLUTION TO GRANT THE VARIANCE.

>> I SECOND MS. SCOTT'S MOTION. >> I MAKE A AMENDMENT THAT WE. >> AMEND THE RESOLUTION TO GRANT

IF VARIANCE. >>> AND I SECOND. >> OKAY WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AND AN AMENDED MOTION AND A SECOND. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION

ON THE AMENDED MOTION WHICH WOULD APPROVE THE APPEAL? >> OF THE VARIANCE.

>> THAT'S A CORRECT STATEMENT. IT WOULD APPROVE THE APPEAL AND GRANT THE VARIANCE.

>>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE COMMENT AND DISCUSSION THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHO IS QUITE REASONABLE AND HAS SENT US A FEW VARIANCES THAT I'VE DISAGREED WITH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION

ALSO RECOMMENDS DENIAL. >> I WOULD COME US TO ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

>> WHAT MOTION ARE WE VOTING ON FIRST. >> THIS IS TO APPROVE THE APPEAL

AND THE VARIANCE. >> SO THIS WOULD BE THE MOTION. >>> REMEMBER, THE FIRST VOTE NEEDS TO BE THE VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT WHICH MERELY CHANGES THE WORDING OF WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING. SO THE FIRST VOTE WILL BE, ON MS. SOLIZ' AMENDMENT.

>> ALL RIGHT TO. >> TO CHANGE WORDING OF THE RESOLUTION.

>> TO GRANT. >>> TO GRANT. >> TO GRANT THE VARIANCE.

>> WELL, I HAVEN'T SPOKEN, BUT I DO AGREE THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR A SOLUTION TO A PROBLEM THAT WE DON'T HAVE. THE STACKING HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP.

IF THERE IS NO STACKING, IT IS KIND OF HARD TO ARGUE THAT IS AN ISSUE.

AND I KNOW WE CAN LOOK TO THE FUTURE AND SAY THERE MAY BE -- NOBODY HAS A CRYSTAL BALL.

I CAN ONLY DEAL WITH THE DATA WE'VE GOT IN IN FRONT OF US. SO I CERTAINLY VOTE IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDED TO GRANT THE VARIANCE. AND I CAN REMEMBER BEING UP HERE FOR NINE YEARS NOW, ON ONE HAND WE VOTE AGAINST THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

IT HAS HAPPENED BUT IT IS VERY RARE. THIS IS ONE OF THE RARE OCCASIONS I WOULD VOTE THE OPPOSITE WAY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

>> ALL RIGHT IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER COMMENTS ON THE AMENDED MOTION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY

AYE. >>> ON THE MOTION TO AMEND. >>> I'M SORRY, ON THE MOTION TO AMEND -- I'M GOING TO MISS YOU -- ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> AYE. >> THOSE OPPOSE SAME SIGN. >> AYE.

>> 4-2 THE ORIGINAL MOTION HAS BEEN AMENDED TO APPROVE THE VARYIANS -- VARIANCE IS THERE ANY FUR DISCUSSION? NO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE VARIANCE AS

AMENDED SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> THOSE OPPOSE SAME SIGN.

>> AYE. >>> ACTUALLY, YOU WERE RIGHT WHEN YOU SAY APPROVE THE AMENDMENT OR APPROVE THE VARIANCE. HE WAS THINKING YOU SAID APPROVE

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THE RESOLUTION. >> YES, SHE'S RIGHT. I THINK WE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE

MEANT. >> YES. >> IF THERE IS VARIANCE IS

APPROVED. >> A LOT OF DOUBLE NEGATIVES GOING ON.

ASK. >>> AND THERE ARE REASONS WHY THAT GETS COMPLICATED.

WE WANT TO WRITE A RESOLUTION THAT SUPPORTS THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO YOU. IF IT IS YOUR DESIRE TO SUPPORT WHAT THEY HAVE RECOMMENDED TO YOU, WE WANT YOU TO SIMPLY TO BE ABLE TO SAY YES. AND THEN SECONDLY, THERE ARE UNUSUAL WORKERS IN THE LAW WHERE IF YOU DID NOT TAKE ACTION TONIGHT, YOU SIMPLY VOTED DOWN THE RESOLUTION WE BROUGHT TO YOU, THEN WE WOULD NOT HAVE ANY RESOLUTION OF THIS MATTER ON THE RECORD. AND SO WE CAN'T SIMPLY VOTE DOWN WHAT I BROUGHT TO YOU.

SO I APOLOGIZE IT IS COMPLICATED BUT THAT IS WHY I STOOD HERE WITH MY BUTTON ON THE MICROPHONE

[2. Approve a variance to Section 21-54(e) for a property located at 301 W...]

TO CHIME IN. >> THAT IS FUN THOUGH. E 2.

>>> ITEM E 2 IS A RESOLUTION APPROVING A ES VARIANCE TO SECTION 21-54 E FOR PROPERTY LOCATED A 301 WAYNE WATKINS DRIVE TO WAIVE THE INSTALLATION OF SIDEWALK WITHIN U.S. HIGHWAY

59 NORTH RIGHT OF WAY. >>> AS YOU KNOW FEDEX IS DEVELOPING IN THE INDUSTRIAL PARK AND WHILE THEY ARE BUILDING A SIDEWALK ON WAYNE WATKINS DRIVE, THEY DID ASK TO NOT BUILD A SIDEWALK ON U.S. 59. STAFF FULLY SUPPORTED THAT AND OFFERED THEM OUR SIDEWALK AGREEMENT AND COVENANT, LOCKS THEY HAVE ISSUE WITH LANGUAGE IN THERE AND INSTEAD CHOSE TO SEEK A FULL FLEDGE VARIANCE. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL BECAUSE YOU DON NEED SIDEWALKS ON HIGH SPEED FRONTAGE ROAD WHERE NO CURB AND SEPARATION AND WE DON'T WANT TO ENCOURAGE PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY ALONG HERE. IF IN THE FUTURE WE EVER DID WANT TO ENCOURAGE PED STRAND ACTIVITY WE WOULD CHECK WITH F., IF CITY COUNCIL DOES BELIEVE A SIDEWALK IS NEEDED WE HAVE SECTION 20-DEPICT THE ORDINANCE THAT GRANTS COUNCIL THAT AUTHORITY.

FOR ALL THOSE REASONS STAFF DOES EXPREMED THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS

VARIANCE. >>> THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS?

NO I GUESS MOTION? >> I MOVE WE ADOPT THIS ITEM. >> SECOND.

>> THANK YOU, A MOTION AND SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION?

OKAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE, THOSE OPPOSE SAME SIGN.

[3. Award the Ben Wilson Street - Airline Road to US Business 59 Project t...]

MOTION CARRIES AND ITEM E 3. >>> ITEM E 323 IS A RESOLUTION AWARDING BEN WILSON STREET AIR- HIF AIRLINE ROAD TO U.S. BUSINESS 59 PROJECT TO MAIN LANE INDUSTRIES LTD OF HOUSTON, TEXAS

OF NEGOTIATED PROPOSAL AMOUNT OF $7,233,127.50. >> GOOD EVENING, LONGTIME COMING FOR THIS PROJECT. FIRST WANT TO THANK UNIVERSITY OF HOUSTON, VICTORIA, OF COURSE.

I WANT TO THANK THE CONTRACTOR AND OUR CONSULTANT WHO IS LISTENING TO US VIA THE ZOOM.

THIS IS THE BEN WILSON PROJECT CORRIDOR PROJECT IS FROM U.S. 59 BUSINESS 59 TO AIRLINE ROAD -- TOO FAST THIS IS STARTING AT AIRLINE ROAD -- THERE THE DRAWINGS AND FIGURE PICTURES YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE. NOTHING HAS CHANGED ON THIS PROJECT FROM THE INTENT FROM THE START OF THIS WHOLE PROJECT. I'M JUST GOING TO GO OVER TO REFRESH YOU AND THE PUBLIC AS WE GO THROUGH THIS IS AIRLINE ROAD. AND THIS WILL BE GOING SOUTH TOWARDS BUSINESS 59.

THIS IS THE NORTH CAMPUS ENTRANCE. AND THIS IS WHERE IT STARTS TO WIDEN INTO A LAND SCAPE U. THAT IS THE CENTER OF THE CAMPUS.

THAT IS GOING INTO THE STUDENT CENTER ON ONE SIDE AND IN THE MAIN ADMINISTRATION BUILD WITHING. THE PART IN THE MIDDLE IS SHOWN, THAT IS WHERE THE CLOCK TOWER ISCH AND ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'LL SEE ON THIS DRAWING IS THAT PAVEMENT IS A WHITE COLOR.

THE OTHER SIDE, THE OTHER IS GRAY THAT IS GOING BE ONE OF THE CHANGES THAT WE WORK WITH THE CONTRACTOR. THIS IS GOING FURTHER SOUTH, THIS IS AT THE RED RIVER INTERSECTION AND THAT IS WHERE THE PROJECT AS FAR AS THE OTHER SECTION ARE CONTINUE GOING SOUTH WITH THE MILL ANDOVER LAY. THE DRAINAGE IS STILL INCLUDED IN THE PROJECT.

IT IS ADDING AN INCREASED TRUNK LINE. INCREASED CAPACITY TO THE STORM DRAINAGE OUT THERE. THIS JUST SHOW DEPICTION OF WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS AND WHAT THE CONTRACTOR IS GOING TO BE BUILDING. THIS IS THE DEPICTION OF THE

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AGAIN IT WILL HAVE A PEDESTRIAN BEACON CROSSINGS FOR THE STUDENTS TO WALK BACK AND FORTH.

PROPOSAL OVERVIEW, WE ADVERTISED THE PROJJECT FOR FIVE WEEKS. WE STARTED ADVERTISING BACK IN NOVEMBER AND CARRIED IT ALL THE WAY THROUGH CHRISTMAS. WE RECEIVED ONE COMPETITIVELY SEALED PROPOSAL THAT WAS MAIN LINE INDUSTRIES OUT OF HOUSTON, THEIR PROPOSAL COST WAS $7,154,WAS 751. THAT INCLUDED THE ADD TO MILL AND OVERLAY BEN WILSON BETWEEN RED RIVER AND BUSINESS 59. NA EXCEEDED THE BUDGET BY ABOUT $2 MILLION.

AT THAT POINT WE BEGAN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CONTRACTOR AND INCLUDED THE CONSULTANT AND ALSO INCLUDED UHV TO SEE WHAT WE COULD DO TO REDUCE THOSE COSTS. THIS IS ONE WE REALLY HIT IT EVERY ITEM WE COULD, BUT NOT TO CHANGE THAT SCOPE OF THAT PROJECT WE SAID LET'S CHANGE IT TO HDPE. IT IS STILL ENCASED IN CEMENT SAND SO THAT THAT PIPE INTEGRITY IS GOING REMAIN THE SAME. THAT WAS THE $68,000 CHANGE. REDUCTION.

WE MODIFIED THE PAVEMENT SECTION. AS YOU SAW IN THE DRAWINGS IT WAS HOT MIX UP UNTIL WHERE THE STUDENT CENTER WAS. AND THEN WE HAD A CONCRETE SECTION IN THERE TO ALLOW THE STUDENTS TO WALK ACROSS CONCRETE.

CONTRACTOR THIS ONE PARTICULAR IS MORE FAMILIAR AND HAS MORE CAPABILITY DOING CONCRETE PAVEMENT AND CAME BACK TO US AND SAID WHAT IF I CHANGE IT TO ALL CONCRETE FROM AIRLINE ALL THE WAY TO RED RIVER. I CAN REDUCE THE COST BY $337,000.

SO THAT WAS ANOTHER CHANGE. WE'RE GOING TO AN 8-INCH CONCRETE PAVEMENT WITH LIMESTONE GRAY. THE OTHER ONE HE TALKED ABOUT WAS MODIFYING THE LANDSCAPING AND IRRIGATION. HE WENT OUT AND GOT BETTER PRICES, GOT A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT OUR INTENT WAS. AND THEY WORKED THAT PRICE DOWN.

WE HAD GRASS PAVED WHICH IS A SPECIALIZED ITEM IN THE MEDIAN THAT IF SWN DROVE UP WHERE WITH THE MEDIAN, NO ONE IS GOING TO RUN OVER THAT MEDIAN ON PURPOSE. WE ELLAME NATED A THAT AND LEFT

IT AS BOK SOD. AND THEN WE HAD SOME. >> CLEARLY WE THINK THIS MEETING IS GOING HAVE A BETTER EXPERIENCE THAN THE NAVARRO MEDIAN.

>> THIS ONE IS GOING BE GRASS AND REALLY NICE LOOKING. THE LAST ONE WAS URBAN DESIGN CHANGES. BECAUSE WE WERE DOING ASPHALT PAVEMENT, WE WANTED TO PUT IN THERMO CROSSWALKS THAT LOOKED LIKE PAVERS. WELL, SINCE THEY'RE DOING CONCRETE PAVEMENT ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS STILL POUR THE CONCRETE, BLOCK IT OUT AND DO THE SAME STAMPED COLOR CONCRETE. THAT WAS A REDUCTION OF $70 US. TOTAL REDUCTION WAS $721,623.

THE SCHEDULE IS WANT TO AWARD THE CONTRACT TODAY. AND THEN EXECUTE BY APRIL 1ST, NOTICE TO PROCEED AND THEN FOLLOWING THAT SOON IN APRIL AND BEGIN CONSTRUCTION IN MAY AND 14 MONTHS TO COMPLETE WHICH WOULD BE AUGUST. AGAIN, THIS CONTRACTOR IS EXCITED TO COME HERE. HE'S ALSO DONE SOME OTHER PROJECTS IN HOUSTON THAT ARE VERY SIMILAR TO THESE KINDS OF URBAN PROJECTS. HE'S DONE BAGBY STREET AND A FEW OTHERS THAT IS WHY WE FEEL LIKE HE'S A GOOD CONTRACTOR TO CHECK. HE'S ALSO DONE SOME WORK HERE IN VICTORIA FOR EMERGENCIES AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE, AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK OUR PARTNERS.

>> KEN, I JUST WANT TO BRIEFLY ADD, JUST TO THE PROJECT CAME IN ROUGHLY $2 MILLION OVER BUDGE.

THE REDUCTION WERE LITTLE OVER $700,000. THERE STILL NEEDED TO BE AN

INCREASE IN FUNDING ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT. >> WHICH FROM MY UNDERSTANDING G

THE BOARD OF REGENTS APPROVED THAT LAST WEEK. >>> ON FEBRUARY 24TH.

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AND TO KUDOS TO THEM FOR DOING THAT LAST WEEK. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE

SAY THAT. >> YES. >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> THAT WAS ON THE UNIVERSITY LEVEL AND WASN'T LOCAL THAT WAS SUPPORT FROM THE REGENTS.

FROM ALL OVER. >>> LIKE I SAID, WE'VE DONE A VERY GOOD.

I THINK EVERYBODY TOGETHER HAS PARTNERED REALLY WELL ON THIS JOB.

AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE THAT WITH THEM AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS PROJECT.

>> WILL THAT ROAD BE COMPLETELY SHUT OFF WHILE THE CONSTRUCTION IS GOING ON?

>> THE CONTRACTORS WANT TO DO IS AT TIMES IT WILL BE, BUT IT WILL BE ONE-WAY TRAFFIC EITHER NORTHBOUND OR SOUTHBOUND. THERE WILL BE TIME WHEN I HAVE TO CROSS THE ROAD AND MAY HAVE TO CLOSE IT FOR A DAY BUT HE'LL HAVE ALL THE PROPER GATHERCADING.

-- BARRICADING. >> WILL WE STILL HAVE ACCESS TO CHICK-FIL-AF.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY CITIZENS HOSPITAL AND AMBULANCES, BUT YOUR.

>> THAT WAS GOOD. >> I LIKE THAT. >> I CAN TELL WHICH IS MORE

IMPORTANT. >> THEY HAVE PRIORITY. >> I KNOW Y'ALL WILL WORK WITH

CITIZENS. >> AND EMS AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS WELL AWARE OF WHATEVER IS GOING ON THAT MAY AFFECT TRANSPORT TO THE HOSPITAL.

>> AND FOR THE RECORD YOU CAN ACCESS CHICK-FIL-A FROM THE RED RIVER ENTRANCE TO THAT PARKING

LOT. >> THANK YOU. >> SOMEBODY THAT KNOW.

>> YOU CAN BARELY GET FROM THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN TO WEST SIDE OF TOWN WITHOUT ENCOUNTERING CONSTRUCTION SOMEWHERE AND YOU'RE WIGGLING AND JIGGLING THROUGH THE STREETS WHAT'S A

LITTLE BIT MORE. >> IS THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.

>> NOT ANY QUESTION BUT CONGRATULATIONS. THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING AND THE FACT THAT IT IS GOING BE FINALIZED AND BE JUST A BEACON FOR OUR COMMUNITY A REAL SHINING

STAR IS I'M HAPPY TO SEE IT FINALLY COME TO FRUITION. >> THANK YOU GONE ABOVE AND

BEYOND TO MAKE THIS SCHAAP BUTIFY VICTORIA. >>> ASK AND THEY'RE HERE IF YOU

WANT TO SAY ANYTHING. >> AND THANK YOU, KEN FOR ALL YOUR WORK.

>>> THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING, YOU'RE RIGHT. >>> I WOULD LIKE THE SAY THIS WHOLE PROJECT HAS BEEN FINE EXAMPLE OF BOTH COOPERATION AND PATIENCE.

IT HAS TAKEN A LONG TIME. WE'VE HAD TO GET A LOT OF FOLKS TO NOD THEIR HEAD RATHER THAN SHAKE IT. BUT I THANK THE CITY FOR THEIR COOPERATION ON THIS PROJECT.

I THANK KEN AND THEIR STAFF FOR RECOMMEND WORK THEY'VE DONE. I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE MATT ALEXANDER AND WAYNE BARON. WAYNE SAT DOWN WITH THE CONTRACTOR AND WORKED OUT EVERY

PENNY OF THE CLER 700,000+ DOLLAR. >>> I BELIEVE IT.

>> THAT COMES FROM HIS 30+ YEARS OF BEING AT THIS SORT OF THING. PEOPLE OFTEN COME POLICE DEPARTMENT US ON THE CHANGES THEY SEE OUT THERE. THIS WILL BE A QUANTUM LEAP FORWARD IN TERMS OF MAKING UH HAVE A DESTINATION UNIVERSITY. AND WE WILL DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO LIVE UP TO BEING A POINT OF PRIDE FOR THIS CITY AND COMMUNITY.

AND WE THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU DR. GLEN. THANK YOU MR. BARON AND MATT.

GOOD SALES JOB UP IN HOUSTON. APPRECIATE IT TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING RESULTS IN 14, 15 MONTHS. FOR JUST PERSPECTIVE AGAIN, BECAUSE WE SAID IT, PATIENCE, WHEN DID WE FIRST SEE THIS ON COUNCIL?

>> 2015, SEVEN YEARS. >>> I THINK IT STARTED JUST BEFORE I WAS ELECTED FOR MY

FIRST TERM. >> WELL, THANK YOU ALL FOR BULLDOGGING IT, APPRECIATE IT.

SO WE NEED A MOTION. >> I MOVE WE APPROVE THIS ITEM. >> SECOND.

>> ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSE SAME SIGN. ITEM CARRIES.

[4. Approve an agreement with AEP Texas to convert High Pressure Sodium st...]

AND WE'RE ONTO E 4. >> E 4 IS A RESOLUTION APPROVE AN AGREEMENT WITH AEP TEXAS TO CONVERT HIGH PRESSURE SODIUM STREETLIGHTS TO LED LIGHTS AS PART OF THE LED CONVERSION

PROJECT IN AMOUNT OF $275,995.72. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, A SHORT PRESENTATION TONIGHT. SO AS YOU KNOW, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, OUR MISSION IS IS TO ENHANCE LIVABILITY ESSENTIALLY IMPROVING QUALITY OF LIFE IN

[02:05:02]

>> BLESS YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> THE GOAL THAT WE HAVE IS TO ESSENTIALLY IMPROVE LIKING THROUGHOUT THE CITY. SO WE KNOW THAT AEP CURRENTLY OWNS APPROXIMATELY 4,052 HPS LIGHTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. AND THIS MAP SHOWS YOU THE LIGHTS. SO THE HPS LIGHTS THAT AEP HAS, YOU CAN SEE THE MAP ON THE SLIDE, THE TYPE OF LIGHT IT IS, IT IS KIND OF YELLOWISH AND DOESN'T EMANATE LIKING THAT COULD BE SAFE TO DRIVERS AND PEDESTRIANS. IT ALSO PROMOTES LIGHT POLLUTION. SO THE GOAL THAT WE HAVE MEMBERS AND COUNCIL IS ESSENTIALLY TO REPLACE ALL OF THOSE 4,52 RIGHTS WITH LED LIKES. SO TO DO THAT, IN THE NEXT FIVE -- I GUESS THE FIVE YEAR CIP, WE HAVE 1.25 MILLION-DOLLAR ALLOCATED FOR THE CITYWIDE STREETLIGHT LED PROJECT. THE FUNDING IS ALLOCATED OVER A FIVE-YEAR PERIOD, 250,000 IN FY 52, AND ADDING 6,IN FY 52 AND CDBG FUNDS AND APPLIED FOR A GRANT AS YOU KNOW AND APPLIED FOR 1.6 MILLION. HOPEFULLY IF WE GET THIS GRANT, WE SHOULD HEAR FROM EDA, PROBABLY SPRING OF THIS YEAR. IF WE FORGET THIS GRANT WE CAN POTENTIALLY DO MORE WITH THE FUNDS. AND ALSO SPEED UP THE PROJECT. FOR EXAMPLE, WE WILL DO TREE TRIMMINGS, YOU HAVE TREES AROUND THE LIGHT THAT BLOCKS THE LIGHT. WE WILL TRIM THE TREES AND REPLACE THE POLE ARMS AND DO A PHOTO METRIC STUDY ESSENTIALLY A STUDY THAT TELLS YOU WHERE WE NEED MORE LIKES SO YOU WOULD ASK MIKE, WHAT IS AN LED LIKING? LED STAND FOR LIGHT EMITTING DIOD. IT IS A VERY WHITE LIGHT AND THAT PROJECTS A VERY NICE WAY TO SEE THE ROAD. SO IT HAS SOME VERY POSITIVE THINGS TO IT AND ADVANTAGESP, LONGER LIFE SPAN, ENERGY SAVING, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY IT MINIMIZES LIGHT POLLUTION.

YOU CAN SEE ON THIS SLIDE WHAT AN HPS SLIDE LOOKS LIKE OR THE TYPE OF LIKING YOU GET WITH THE HPS AND THE TYPE OF LIGHTING YOU GET WHICH IS BRIGHTER AND IT REDUCES LIGHT POLLUTION BECAUSE IT DOESN'T PROJECT UPWARD, IT PROJECTS DOWNWARD. SO THIS SLIDE SHOWS A BEFORE AND AFTER. SO BEFORE YOU COULD BARELY SEE ON THE LEFT THE STREET MARKINGS, YOU KNOW, YOU DON KNOW IF YOU'RE IN THE RIGHT LANE OR NOT. SO THE AFTER IS THE LED, YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE THE ROADWAY WHICH IS MADE FOR SAFER DRIVING. IN THE OTHER YOU CAN SEE THE PEDESTRIAN WHEREBY YOU CAN BARELY SEE THE PEDESTRIAN, BECAUSE OF THE HPS LIGHT, HOWEVER, ONCE WE SWITCH TO THE LED, IT IS EASILY SEEN SO THAT PERSON CAN BE SEEN AND IS MUCH

SAFER FOR THAT PEDESTRIAN. >> SO ANOTHER IMPORTANT PIECE IS THE PREVENTING LIGHT POLLUTION.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT LIGHT POLLUTION, WE MEANING LIGHT THAT IS DIRECTED UPWARD, WHICH MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR INDIVIDUALS TO SEE THE STARS, THE SKY.

THAT IS WHAT YOU GET WITH THE HPS LIGHTS SO WITH THE LED LIKING THE LIGHT IS PROJECTED DOWNWARD, WHICH PREVENTS THE LIGHT POLLUTION. AND AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE IT HERE ON THIS SLIDE, YOU KNOW, THE HPS LIGHT LOOKS LIKE AND IN THE LED LIGHTS WHICH POINTS DOWNWARD REDUCING LIGHT POLLUTION. SO IN TERMS OF EXPECTED OUTCOME, SO ONCE WE CHANGE THE HPS LIGHTS TO LED, WE THINK THAT WILL IMPROVE PUBLIC SAFETY BECAUSE IT IS SAFER FOR THE MIRANDA RIGHTISTS TO DRIVE WHEN THEY CAN SEE THE ROAD, ALL RIGHT, AND IT PREVENTS CRIME.

SO WE KNOW THAT BRIGHTER LIGHTS MAKES IT A DETERRENT TO POTENTIAL CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES IT

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WE KNOW LED LIGHTS FOR THE NEXT ESSENTIALLY IF WE REPLACE ALL THE LIKES WE'LL GET A SAVING OF ABOUT $115,000 PER YEAR IN ENERGY COSTS. SO THAT IS HOW MUCH WE WOULD SAVE. $115,000 PER YEAR. AND ALSO, IT ENHANSES LIVABILITY. WE WANT TO INPROVE QUALITY OF LIFE IN VICTORIA BETTER LIGHT WILLING HELP WITH THAT BECAUSE PEDESTRIANS WILL TEND TO WALK MORE, RIGHT? BE HEALTHIER. ALSO SAFER FOR OUR MOTORIST. THE DRIVERS CAN STAY WITHIN THEIR LANES AND SEE WHERE THEY'RE GOING AND SO ON. SO I BETWEEN ASK TODD TO COME FORWARD AND BRIEFLY GO OVER THE SCOPE BECAUSE HE WILL BE WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH AEP TO MAKE

SURE THESE LIGHTS ARE CHANGED ACCORDINGLY. >> MAYOR AND COUNCIL -- APPRECIATE THAT. SO LIKE MIKE MENTIONED, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON AE PE ON PROJECT EXECUTION PLAN MOVING FORWARD ON THIS PROJECT TO GO OVER THE DETAILS OF THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT SO RIGHT NOW IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2022 THE GOAL IS TO GO AND REPLACE EXISTING FIXTURES ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN ROUGHLY TWO 2,002 FIXTURES WITH LED FIXTURES WHAT THEN MEANS SPECIFICALLY IS, SOME OF THESE HPS FIXTURES INSTALLED NOW ARE ANYWHERE FROM 150 TO 250 AND 400 WATT RANGE, WE'LL BE REPLACING THAT WITH THE LED EQUIVALENT. FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN YOU GO PURCHASE AN LED LIGHT BULB AT THE STORE, YOU MAY HAVE A 60-WATT INCANDESCENT LIGHT BULBS AND YOU'LL HAVE A EQUIV LENT OF THEN LED, LESS WATTAGE EQUALS ENERGY SAVING LIKE MIKE MENTIONED IN WORKING WITH AEP ON THE PROJECT EXECUTION PLAN, WE'RE LOOKING AT AEP UTILIZING TWO, TWO-MAN CREWS OUT OF THEIR CORPUS OFFICE TO PERFORM THIS WORK.

AEP MENTIONED THEY CAN CHANGE OUT ROUGHLY 200 LIGHTS PER WEEK. THEY'RE DOING PROJECT SIMILAR TO THIS IN LAREDO AS WELL AS CORPUS CRISTI AND THAT IS KIND OF ROUGHLY THE SCHEDULE THAT THEY'RE ON RIGHT NOW AEP PLANS ON USING A SMART SHEET PROGRAM, JUST A SOFTWARE THAT WILL ONE, HELP KIND OF TRACK THE INVENTORY AS THEY CHANGE OUT LIGHTS THERE WILL HAVE THE PROGRAM IN THE FIELD AND SORT OF CAPTURE THAT LIGHT AS IT IS CHANGED OUT AND THEREFORE GOING INTO INVENTORY.

WE HAVE GIVEN AEP A SPREADSHEET OF ALL THE LIGHTS WE WANT INSTALLED OR THESE 2,002 LIGHTS WE HAVE GIVEN A SPREADSHEET OF THOSE LIGHTS. WE'LL GO OVER IT SHORTLY TO SHOW YOU THAT. BEYOND THE LIGHT CHANGEOUT, AEP WILL MAINTAIN THESE LIGHTS AS THEY ARE THEIR ASSET, NOT THE CITY'S ASSET. THESE ARE THE 2002 LIGHTS THAT WERE PROPOSING AS PART OF THIS AGREEMENT, AND AGAIN, THESE LIGHTS WERE SELECTED ONE, BECAUSE OF THE CDBG FUNDING PART OF THIS AGREEMENT AS WELL AS JUST THE AMOUNT OF CIP FUNDING THAT WE NEEDED TO PICK A NUMBER THAT WOULD GET US TO ROUGHLY HALF THE LIGHTS THIS YEAR AND

HALF THE LIGHTS IN 2023. >>> IS THERE ANY SIGNIFICANCE TO THE COLORS OF THE DOTS?

>> YES, MA'AM. SO THE COLORS OF THE DOTS ARE BASED ON WHAT WATTAGE THE HPS LIGHT IS NOW. IF THIS AN INTERACTIVE MAP. I'M NOT QUITE SURE IF I CAN.

>> I DON'T THINK I NEED TO HEAR THE TECHNICAL -- I WANTED TO MAKE SURE.

>> CLICK ON THE LIGHT, ON THE DOT AND IT WILL BRING UP WHAT EXACTLY THAT LIGHT IS.

>> IT IS NOT A PRIORITY OR THESE ARE GETTING CHANGED AND THESE ARE NOT.

>>> IT IS GOING BE SUPER INFORMATIVE FOR US TO USE AS WELL AS AEP TO USE AS THEY GO

THROUGH THE PROJECT. >> THANK YOU. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> AND I WANT TO GIVE CREDIT TO OUR GIS DEPARTMENT, THEY WERE ABLE TO CREATE THIS MAP FOR US AND ONCE THEY SHOWED IT TO AEP THEY MADE THEIR PROJECT AND LIFE A LOT EASIER.

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BUT WE WANT TO MAKE IT CONSISTENT, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU DRIVE DOWN RIO GRANDE RIGHT NOW YOU'LL SEE THAT THEY CAN TXDOT OR THEY WORK FOR AEP TO PUT LED LIGHTING ALL THE WAY DOWN RIO GRANDE AND CONSISTENT 14-FOOT ARMS OUT OVER THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD ALL THE WAY DOWN AND IT LOOKS VERY UNIFORM. PHASE 5 OF THE PROJECT WOULD COULD INCLUDE ADDITIONAL LIGHTING AGAIN FROM THE PHOTO METRIC STUDY AND AGAIN, ADDITIONAL POLE REPLACEMENTS WE'VE GOT SOME COST ON WHAT THOSE POLE REPLACEMENTS COULD BE, WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY RIGHT NOW BUT THAT SHOULD BE IDENTIFIED THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF CHANGING OUT THESE LIGHTS.

THESE LIGHT FIXTURES BECAUSE AE PE TOLD US THEY CAN IDENTIFY THAT ON THE SMART SHEET PROGRAM AS THEY GO THROUGHOUT THE CHANGEOUT. THAT DATA WILL BE ABLE TO US LATER ON AFTER THE CHANGEOUT. WITH THAT I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

>> JUST BEFORE WE TAKE QUESTIONS I WANT TO QUAKILY GO OVER THE TIMELINE.

AGAIN, VICTORIA IS NOT THE ONLY CITY DOING THIS. WE HAVE MANY OTHER CITIES CHANGING FROM THE HPS TO THE LED. CORPUS IS DOING THE SAME, LAREDO, SAN ANTONIO. AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE LIGHT POLLUTION, ENERGY SAVINGS AND THEN BRIGHTER LIGHTS MAKE IT SAFER FOR OUR DRIVERS AND FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO IN TERMS OF TIMELINE COUNCIL, SO AEP WILL BEGIN REPLACING THE LIGHTS AT THE END OF THIS MONTH.

END OF MARCH. AND THEY SHOULD BE DONE REPLACING THE FIRST PHASE BY AUGUST. SO THEY WILL REPLACE 2,000 LIGHTS FROM MARCH TO AUGUST.

AND THEN IN OCTOBER, WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU FOR ANOTHER AGREEMENT TO APPROVE THE SECOND PHASE. SO AEP WILL START THE SECOND FAY PHASE MOST LIKELY IN OCTOBER AND COMPLETE IN DECEMBER. SO ALL OF THE 4,052 LIKES WILL BE CHANGED FROM HPS TO LED BY

DECEMBER OF THIS YEAR. >> THIS IS A PROJECT THAT CREASEUS MENTIONED TO ME ON THE

FIRST DAY WE GOT HERE. >> I THINK A LOT OF YOU REMEMBER MY SENTIMENTS AROUND THIS COMMUNITY BEING VERY DARK VERY EARLY OBSERVATION, I'M VERY EXCITED WHERE WE ARE WITH THIS

PROJECT NOW. SO THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. >> AND HOW QUICKLY WE'RE GETTING

TO DO IT. THAT IS AWESOME. >> THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING THE FUNDING. OBVIOUSLY IF WE GET A GRANT THAT WILL HELP ALLEVIATE FUNDING FROM THE CIP FOR OTHER THINGS, BUT EITHER WAY WE THINK THIS IS A PRIORITITY ITEM SO WE'RE

PROCEEDING WITH OR WITHOUT A GRANT. >> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS?

YOU IDENTIFIED THAT IN 100 DAY PLAN. >> MIGHT HAVE MENTIONED IT IN MY

INTERVIEW. >>> THE LIGHTS WE HAVE WERE THE LATEST AND GREATEST AT THE TIME.

BUT THEY'RE CERTAINLY NOT NOW. >> ALL RIGHT, NEED A MOTION. >> MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE E 4.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >>> AYE, THOSE OPPOSE SAME SIGN. ITEM E 4 PASSES AND WE'RE ONTO

[1. Presentation on the Texas Pace Authority. Danielle Williams, Director ...]

DANIELLE SO SHE CAN INTRODUCE THE TOPIC. >> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I HAVE WITH ME A GENTLEMAN FROM THE TEXAS PACE AUTHORITY PROGRAM HE IS GOING TELL A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROGRAM AND ESSENTIALLY IN A NUTSHELL IT IS AN ADDED INCENTIVE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER FOR ME TO HAVE IN MY TOOL KIT WHEN WORKING WITH DEVELOPERS AND

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I HAVE WITH ME MR. DUB TAYLOR AND HE'S GOING TO GIVE THE PRESENTATION AND LET YOU KNOW

MORE ABOUT THE TEXAS PACE PROGRAM. >> THANKS, DANIELLE.

MAYOR, COUNCIL, MY NAME IS DUB TAYLOR. I'M GOING GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THE PACE PROGRAM ITSELF. AND OUR ORGANIZATION ACTUALLY HAS A ROLE IN ADMINISTERING THE PROGRAM FOR CITIES AND COUNTIES AROUND THE STATE. SO MY BACKGROUND, I WAS WITH THE STATE FOR ABOUT 25 YEARS, OPERATING PUBLIC SECTOR ORIENTED ENERGY AND WATER EFFICIENCY PROGRAMS AND ENGINEERING ASSISTANCE. PRIOR TO THAT IN COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE PRIMARILY. AND THE PROBLEM THAT PACE WAS DESIGNED TO HELP SOLVE, AND THIS IS LEGISLATIVE ACTION THAT TOOK PLACE BACK IN 2013, IS THAT BUSINESS OWNERS KNOW THEY COULD SAVE MONEY BY MAKING INVESTMENTS AND UPGRADES IN THEIR FACILITIES, MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL AND PLUMBING SYSTEMS. BUT THESE IMPROVEMENTS ARE EXPENSIVE AND THEY COMPETE WITH OTHER COSTS, OTHER PRIORITY COSTS BUSINESSES MAY HAVE. AND SO OFTENTIMES THEY DON'T GET DONE. SO THE FAILING EQUIPMENT THAT RESULTS FROM THIS OFTEN IS REPLACED ON EMERGENCY BASIS, YOUR CHILLER, AIR-CONDITION DOESN'T GO OUT IN DECEMBER, IT GOES OUT IN JULY. WHAT IS AVAILABLE MAY NOT BE THE EQUIPMENT YOU WOULD SPECIFY IF YOU HAD MORE TIME. YOU MIGHT SPECIFY MORE EFFICIENT EQUIPMENT, BUT USUALLY THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN. AND SO BUILDINGS GET UPGRADED OR EQUIPMENT REPLACED ON KIND OF A PIECEMEAL BASIS. THAT RESULTS OVER TIME AND LESS OPTIZATION IN THE BUILDINGS AND FACILITIES SO THAT IS A CHALLENGE AND WITH NEW CONSTRUCTION, THE THINGS THAT ARE BEHIND THE WALLS GET GET CUT FIRST BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE THEM.

SO JUST LIKE IN A NEW HOME, PEOPLE PRIORITIZE STAINLESS STEEL APPLIANCES AND GRANITE COUNTER TOPS THE EQUIPMENT IN THE ATTIC, CUT THAT, BUT THAT WILL COME BACK AND HAUNT YOU, OBVIOUSLY BY CUTTING CORNERS THE FRONT ENDS FOR A LONG TIME THIS HAS A LOT OF THE LONG-TERM IMPACTS ON OPERATING KORSZS FOR THE FACILITY, AIR INDOOR AIR QUALITY, COMFORT, TEMPERATURE AND SO FORTH SO PACE WAS DESIGNED TO HELP ADDRESS THIS. AND IT STANDS FOR PROPERTY ASSESSED CLEAN ENERGY. IT IS A FINANCING PROGRAM THAT PROVIDES LONG-TERM, LOW-COST, 100% FINANCING FOR CERTAIN ENERGY, WATER EFFICIENCY PROJECTS AND THIS IS PRIVATE FINANCING THAT IS SECURED BY A PUBLIC ASSESSMENT. THAT IS TRILLION KEY TO IT.

THAT IS WHERE THE PACE IDEA COMES FROM. THIS OTHERWISE WOULD BE A PRIVATE TRANSACTION BETWEEN A BUILDING OWNER AND LENDER. BUT THE LENDER MAY NOT OFFER TERMS THAT MAKE THIS COST-EFFECTIVE FOR THE BORROWER. SO PACE HELPS ADDRESS THAT.

IT IS AUTHORIZED UNDER STATE LAW, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 399.

LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ENABLE THISPRA PROGRAM, EITHER CITY BY CITY OR COUNTY BY COUNTY.

IT IS VOLUNTARY AND OPEN MARK, MEANING THERE IS NO PRESCRIBED LIST OF CONTRACTORS OR VENDORS OR LENDER THAT CAN BE USED ANY LENDER CAN PROVIDE THE CAPITAL ANY CONTRACTOR KANG DO THE WORK.

AND ANY COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, INCLUDING NON-PROFITS, MULTI-FAMILY, FIVE UNI UNITS OR MORE OR ANY SHORT SORT OF INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING PROJECT.

ANYTHING BUT SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL OR RESIDENTIAL UP TO FOUR UNIITS LAID OUT IN STATE LAW. THE TYPES OF THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, ANY PROJECT THAT CAN REDUCE ENERGY OR WATER USAGE OR GENERATE ENERGY ON SITE POTENTIALLY IS ELIGIBLE.

ON THE ENERGY SIDE, NO SURPRISE YOU SEE AIR-CONDITIONING SYSTEMS, LIGHTING UPGRADES LIKE WE'RE JUST DISCUSSED. THOSE WERE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY STREETLIGHTING BUT INTERIOR LIGHTING UPGRADES, BUILDING MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS, ROOFTOP SOLAR, WE'VE SEEN SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS AND ON THE WATERSIDE A WHOLE HOST OF THINGS ON THE WATER EFFICIENTSY SIDE AS WELL.

>> AND SO WHAT MAKES MAKES THIS DIFFERENT IS IN A CONVENTIONAL FINANCING SCENARIO, A OWNER WOULD IDENTIFY A NEED THEY WOULD SAY I NEED TO BORROW MONEY TO IMPLEMENT THIS PROJECT.

THEY WOULD GO TO THE LENDER AND THE LENDER WOULD SAY THIS IS AN EQUIPMENT LOAN.

IT IS UNSECURED IN THE EVENT OF A DEFAULT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO COME REMOVE THE EQUIPMENT, AND SO WE WANT TO HAVE OUR MONEY REPAID AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. TYPICALLY ABOUT FIVE YEARS, NO MORE THAN THAT FOR AN EQUIPMENT LOAN. AND SO IF YOU SEE THE PAYMENT IN A CONVENTIONAL LOAN IT IS GOING TO BE MUCH HIGHER THAN THE UTILITIES SAVING FROM THE PROJECT. AND SO THE OWNER IS REALLY UPSIDE DOWN FROM A CASH FLOW PERSPECTIVE. WHAT PACE DOES IS ALLOW THE FINANCING SECURED BY A LOCAL ASSESSMENT TO EXTEND AT LEAST AS LONG AS THE BENEFITS OF THE PROJECT.

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WHAT THE PREPARE TRANSFERS OR IS SOLD THE NEXT OWNER PICKS UP THE NEXT SET OF PAYMENTS AND THE NEXT OWNER TAKES UP THE NEXT THIRD OF PAYMENT. IT CAN ALWAYS BE REPAID AT THE TIME OF SALE. WE'VE SEEN THEM BOTH WAYS, BUT THAT IS ANOTHER DESIGN FEATURE.

OVERALL IN TEXAS, WE'VE SEEN $190 MILLION OF PROJECTS CLOSE REALLY SINCE THIS STARTED.

KIND OF HOCKEY STICK GROWTH. HALF ARE ENERGY EFFICIENT, A THIRD WATER CONSERVATION, 12% DISTRIBUTED GENERATION, MOST OF THESE IN THE COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL SECTORS FOLLOWED BY HOSPITAL TALENT AND THEN COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE. AND THE PROGRAMS THEMSELVES, AGAIN THIS IS A CITY BY CITY, COUNTY BY COUNTY ACTION, 72 LOCAL PACE PROGRAMS SCATTERED ACROSS THE STATE NOW COVERING OVER 60% OF THE POPULATION HAVE ADOPTED PACE.

IN THE PROCESS LOOKS LIKE THIS. A CITY OR COUNTY HAS USUALLY HAS A PUBLIC BRIEFING OR DISCUSSION LIKE WE'RE HAVING HERE TONIGHT. THE SECOND IS TO REPORT HOW THE PROGRAM WORKS AND A RESOLUTION OF INTENT, CONSIDER THAT TO BASICALLY PUT THE PUBLIC ON NOTICE, WE'RE CONSIDERING CREATING THIS PROGRAM, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO PROVIDE INPUT.

STEP 4, A REQUIREMENT UNDER STATE LAW, A PUBLIC HEARING TO HEAR ANY PUBLIC INPUT THE FIFTH STEP PASS THE RESOLUTION TO ESTABLISH THE PROGRAM AND SELECT AN ADMINISTRATOR, THAT IS WHAT WE DO, WE'RE ADMINISTRATORS OF PACE PROGRAM. SO THIS IS THE PUBLIC PROCESS.

IT CAN BE DONE IN TWO SEPARATE MEETINGS BUT THERE HAS TO BE THAT NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING AT THE FIRST MEETING FOLLOWED BY THE SECOND. THE DOCUMENTS FOR ALL OF THIS, THE RESOLUTIONS OF INTENT, ET CETERA, WE HAVE FORM DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN USED ACROSS THE STATE IN THE 72 PROGRAMS THAT ARE ESTABLISHED. THESE ARE THINGS YOU DON'T NEED TO WRITE ON YOUR OWN, YOU CAN ADAPT AND MODIFY WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY.

THAT WORK IS DONE FOR YOU. OUR ROLE WE WORK WITH CITIES AND COUNTIES EXCLUES IRLY.

WE ARE A NON-PROFIT CREATED TO SERVE JUST THIS ROLE. WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER FELLOW THE PROJECT. WE DON'T PROVIDE THE FUNDING, THE CAPITAL, WE DON'T DO THE WORK. WE ARE NOT A CONTRACTOR. I REALLY THINK, YOU KNOW WE SERVE AS A REFEREE TO MAKE SURE THE TRANSACTIONS THAT GET APPROVED UNDER THE CITY'S PROGRAM MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS UNDER STATE LAW BOTH TECHNICALLY AND LEGALLY.

>> QUICK PROCESS FLOW IN HOW IT WORKS A BUILDING OWNER FINDS A CONTRACTOR AND SELECTS THE PROJECT, THEY FIND A CAPITAL PROVIDER OR CONTRACTOR AND PLATTED THE PROGRAM.

IF THE PROGRAM MEETS AT THE PROJECT MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENT THEN THE OWNER SIGNS A CONTRACT WITH THE PROGRAM THAT PLACES A LIEN ON THE PROPERTY THAT IS THE ASSESSMENT THAT PROVIDES A SECURITY. THE CAPITOL SIGNS A CONTRACTOR WITH THE COUNTY OR THE CITY IN EXCHANGE FOR THOSE PAYMENTS. THE CAPITOL PROVIDER PROVIDES FUNDING.

THE CONTRACTOR COMPLETES THE PROJECT. AND THEN THE OWNER SENDS THE PAYMENTS DIRECTLY BACK TO THE LENDER. SO IN OTHER STATES WERE PACE OPERATES THE COLLECTION AND DEBT SERVICE ON THAT BECOME AGENCY LINE-ITEM ON THE TAX BILL.

THE COUNTY TAX ASSESSORS IN TEXAS EXPRESSED CONCERNS OBTAIN MODIFICATIONS TO THEIR BUILDING SYSTEMS TO ACCOMMODATE ONE-OFF PROJECTS SO THIS WAS THE CONTRACTUAL WORK AROUND TO ACHIEVE THE SAME THING, SO IT REALLY IS A PRIVATE TRANSACTION IN ALL ASPECTS THAN THE SECURITY MECHANISM. UNDERWRITING METRICS TO PROTECT OWNER AND LENDER, PACE LOAN CAN'T EXCEED 25% OF THE ASSESSED VALUE OF THE PROPERTY. THE SAVINGS TO INVESTMENT RATIO, THAT IS SAVINGS OVER THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT HAS TO BE AT LEAST AS GREAT THOSE BE AT LEAST AS MUCH AS THE COST OF THE PROJECT. AND THEN IF THERE IS A MORTGAGE ON THE PROPERTY, WRITTEN CONSENT

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FROM THE MORTGAGE HOLDER IS REQUIRED. >> HOW DO WE KNOW THE PROJECTS SAVE MONEY? THE TECHNICAL STAND AROUNDS THAN NATIONAL STANDARDS.

ALSO IN TEXAS THERE IS A REQUIREMENT THAT AN INDEPENDENT THIRD PARTY, THIS IS A TEXAS LICENSE PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER WITH RELEVANT EXPERIENCE AND ENERGY AND WATER ANALYSIS THAT THEY DO A DESK REVIEW. THEY SIGNED OFF ON THE CALCULATIONS ON THE FRONT END AND AFTER THE PROJECT IS COMPLETED THEY COME BACK AND MAKE SURE THE PROJECT WAS

INSTALLED CORRECTLY. >> SO AGAIN, THE PROJECT PROCESS, THE CONTRACTOR WORKING WITH THE OWNER CAN DO THE UP FRONT ENERGY AND WATER ANALYSIS. THE INDEPENDENT THIRD PARTY REVIEWER MOVES INTO PROJECT CONSTRUCTION AND THEN POST PROJECT INSTALLATION VERSION.

WE'VE SEEN URBAN, RURAL, ENERGY EFFICIENT, YOU NAME IT, SMALLEST PROJECT $68,000, LARGEST $24 MILLION ALL HAVE BEEN 100% FINANCED. AND JUST KIND OF A SAMPLE OF THESE THIS IS A SYNAGOGUE IN AUSTIN, THE VERY FIRST PACE PROJECT, EXAMPOF A NON-PROFIT THAT CAN USE PACE TO IN THIS CASE REPLACE THEIR HVAC SYSTEMS AND PUT IN NEW CONTROLS AND CONTROL A HEAT GAIN THROUGH WINDOW TINTING ON WEST-FACING WALLS.

THEY ALSO SECURED A UTILITY ASSESSMENT -- I'M SORRY, A UTILITY INCENTIVE TO BUY DOWN THE COST OF THE PROJECT. THIS IS KIND OF A CONVENTIONAL COMMERCIAL OFFICE BUILDING, BUILT IN THE 80SIN HOUSTON, ORIGINAL HVAC LIGHTING THEY SECURED AN INCENTIVE THROUGH CENTER POINT AND 1.3 MILLION PROJECT WITH ALMOST 40% ANNUAL SAVINGS THIS PROJECT SOLD THE BUILDING SOLD ABOUT A YEAR AFTER THIS AND HAS S PART OF THE TRANSACTION, THE NEW OWNER SAID WE WANT IT FREE AND CLEAR WITHOUT THE ASSESSMENT AND GOISHTED THE PAYOFF AT THE TIME.

AGAIN THAT IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE. THIS IS A PROJECT IN DALLAS THAT IS DALLAS CITY HALL ON THE RIGHT IF YOU'VE BEEN DOWNTOWN DALLAS. THE BUILDING IN THE BACKGROUND WAS AN OLD ABANDONED WAREHOUSE. A DEVELOPMENT GROUP CAME IN AND SAID WE WANT TO TURN THIS INTO CONDOS, LOFT CONDO, APARTMENTS AND A HOSEEL SO IT NEEDED EVERYTHING, IT WAS $120 MILLION OVERALL PROJECT AND OF THAT THEY USED PACE FOR ABOUT $24 MILLION TO COVER THE ME ECAN CAL ENGINEERING AND ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS. JUST DOWN THE ROAD HERE, ALL OF PRETTY MUCH ALL OF THE RENTAL HOUSING AND ROOK PORT WAS WIPED OUT BY HARVEY.

THIS WAS ONE OF THE FIRST NEW APARTMENT COMPLEXES BUILT TO SERVE THAT RENTAL MARKET NEED.

THEY WENT ABOVE CODE, MINIMUM CODE REQUIREMENTS WHICH QUALIFIED THIS FOR PACE IN LIGHTING, PLUMBING FIXTURES AND WINDOWS AND WALL AND ROOF INSTALLATION AND THIS WAS THE FIRST PHASE OF THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX AND ARE NOW I THINK 90% RENTED OUT AND OR THEY'RE MOVING ONTO THE SECOND PHASE. IN AMRIL LOWE, AGAIN THIS WAS AN ABANDONED DOWNTOWN OFFICE BUILDING AN EYESORE THAT WAS CONVERTED INTO BOUTIQUE HOTEL AND NEEDED EVERYTHING, LIGHTING, HVAC, WATER, BUILDING ENVELOPE IMPROVEMENTS, ET CETERA. SO WE LIKE -- WE THINK PACE IS REALLY A WIN-WIN-WIN, FIVE WINS, PROPERTY OWNERS BENEFIT, LOWER UTILITY BILLS, PROPERTY VALUE INCREASE. THEY GET TO THOSE PROJECTS THAT THEY NEVER HAVE THE PEARL CAPITAL TO FUND. FOR CONTRACTORS THIS CAN HELP KEEP A PROJECT COMPLETE INSTEAD OF PIECEMEAL. IT IS A SOURCE OF CAPITOL TO COMPLETE HE PROJECTS.

FOR LENDERS IT IS A LOW-RICK LOAN PRODUCT THEY CAN OFFER, FULLY CLOT RALLIZED AND IMPROVES THE ASSET VALUE. THE STATE LEVEL AND REASON THIS WAS INTERESTING TO THE STATE BACK IN 2013, COLLECTIVELY ALL OF THESE PROJECTS CAN REDUCE PEAK DEMAND ON OUR ELECTRIC GRID AND KEEP OUR GRID MORE RELIABLE. THEY CAN ALSO INDIRECTLY IMPROVE AIR QUALITY, FEWER EMISSIONS FROM POWER PLANTS FROM A COMMUNITY STANDPOINT, WE OFTEN SEE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OFFICES INTERESTED THIS IS A NATIONAL THE TOOL KIT ADDRESS DANIELLE SAID.

IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR BUSINESSES TO REINVEST IN PROPERTIES.

IF YOU HAVE AN OUTSIDE INVESTOR COMING IN LOOKING TO REFURBISH A PROPERTY THIS IS A TOOL THEY CAN USE NO COST TO THE CITY. SO USING PRIVATE CAPITAL, THAT IS CERTAINLY VERY APPEALING AND A NUMBER OF RESOURCES WE HAVE ON OUR WEBSITE, MORE CASE STUDIES, ALL THE TECHNICAL STANDARDS AND SO FORTH. LY STOP THERE AND SEE WHAT QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

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>> THE TART MEETING FEBRUARY 9TH THROUGH THE 11TH, I THINK SOMEBODY

TALKED ABOUT THE PACE PROGRAM OVER THERE. >> I'M SORRY THE WHICH?

>> THE TARP, TEXAS ASSOCIATION. >> YES.

>> THAT IS WHERE I HEARD ABOUT IT FIRST AND I THOUGHT I TO V TO GO AND TELL EVERYBODY ABOUT

THIS. >> CHARLENE IS THE PRESIDENT OF TEXAS PACE AUTHORITY.

>> YEAH. >>> & SHE MENTIONED SHE HAD TALKED TO DANIELLE AND I THINK

JESUS AND SOMEBODY ELSE JEFF? >> I MET WITH HER. I THINK IT IS A GOOD TOOL TO

HAVE IN OUR TOOL BOX. >>> A GREAT TOOL. >>> WE'VE BEEN AWARE OF THE PROGRAM FOR SOME TIME SHOWING THE COMMUNITIES PARTICIPATING YOU WILL NOTICE MAJORITY ARE COUNTIES SO WE DID OFFER AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS PROGRAM TO BE TAKEN UP BY THE COUNTY.

THAT DID NOT HAPPEN. AND SO WE GOT TO THE POIN WHERETO WE DECIDED TO BRING IT

FORWARD TO RECOMMEND ADOPTING IT AS A CITY. >> COULD YOU EXPLAIN AGAIN WHAT

THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITIES AND OBLIGATIONS ARE? >> SO ESSENTIALLY IN ESTABLISHING THE PROGRAM, THE CITY IS USING ITS ASSESSMENT AUTHORITY WHICH IS UNIQUE AUTHORITY THE CITY HAS TO PROVIDE SECURITY TO WHAT OTHERWISE IS A PRIVATE LOAN.

SO IT IS AN ASSESSMENT LEAN THAT GOES ON THE PROPERTY AND REMAINS THERE AS LONG AS THE FINANCING IS IN PLACE. SO AS SOON AS THE PROJECT IS COMPLETED AND THE FINANCING IS REPAID THAT LEAN IS REMOVED SO THAT REALLY THE KEY TO IT. OTHER THAN THAT, WHEN PACE FIRST STARTED THE VERY FIRST COUNTY THAT SAID WE WANTED TO DO THIS AND CREATED THE PROGRAM AND LOOKED AROUND AND SAID WHO IS GOING DO IT. AND THEY NEEDED AN ATTORNEY AN ENGINEER AND REAL ESTATE CLOSING AGENT AND OTHER PEOPLE, THEY DIDN'T WANT TO CREATE A PACE DEPARTMENT SO NOTHING HAPPENED. SO OUR ORGANIZATION WAS CREATED TO FILL THAT VOID IN 2015.

SO WE DO, ESSENTIALLY DO THIS OUTSOURCED CITY AND COUNTY PACE ADMINISTRATION WORK FOR CLOSING FEES FOR TRACKS SO IT DOESN'T COST THE CITY MONEY. THAT IS REALLY FACILITATED A LOT OF GROWTH, SO THE CITY ESSENTIALLY WOULD MAKES THIS WORK IS THE LOCAL ASSESSMENT

AUTHORITY THE CITY AND COUNTY HAS. >> PAID TO THE CAPITOL PROVIDER

OR CAPITAL TAXING AUTHORITY. >>> TO THE CAPITAL WRITER DIRECTLY.

THERE IS NO TRANSACTIONS. >> AND THAT IS WHERE THERE IS COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THEM.

>> YES. >> GREAT PROGRAM. >>> AND TO CLARIFY SPECIFICALLY THOSE ENTITIES ARE, I GUESS, OWNERS THAT QUALIFY ARE MORE YOU KNOW, PRIVATE, YOU KNOW WE CAN'T PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM, SCHOOL DISTRICTS CAN PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT HOUSING AUTHORITIES, THOUGH. >> DEPENDS ON THE OWNERSHIP IF IT IS PUBLICKING HOUSING BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN PRIVATELY OWNED HOUSING WELL.

>> IT IS A PUBLIC ENTITY THEN NO. >> RIGHT.

>> RIGHT. THE STATE HAS A LOAN PROGRAM THAT IS IN AN OFFICE I USED TO RUN THAT IS AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC SECTOR PROJECTS LIKE THIS, BUT THIS PACE IS JUST FOR PRIVATE.

>> THAT MIGHT BE WORTH FINDING OUT ABOUT SURE, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

BUT I THINK WE CAN THINK OF BUILDINGS WE WON'T SAY OUT LOUD THAT COULD USE THIS TYPE OF

FRAHM TO UPDATE THEIR SYSTEMS AND JUST MAKE IMPROVEMENTS. >> IT IS A GREAT TOOL FOR THE CITY TO HAVE, ESPECIALLY WITH DOWNTOWN -- NOT JUST DOWNTOWN, CHURCHES IN THE VALLEY HAVE USED

THIS, I KNOW THAT FOR A FACT. >> ALSO, THE TO BE ELIGIBLE IT HAS TO BE CONSIDERED A PERMANENT IMPROVEMENT TO REAL PROPERTY. PERMANENT MEANS THAT THE IMPROVEMENT OR THE EQUIPMENT STAYS IN PLACE AS LONG AS THE LOAN TERM. SO WE'VE ALSO SEEN MANUFACTURERS WITH LIKE HEAVY EQUIPMENT INSIDE THE BUILDING REPLACE THAT, YOU KNOW, PUMPS, MOTORS, THINGS THAT HAVE HIGH-ENERGY DEMAND, COMPRESSED AIR SYSTEMS INSIDE MANUFACTURING FACILITIES THAT HAVE LONG LIFE. AND SO IT IS NOT JUST AIR-CONDITIONING AND LIGHTING.

IT IS ANY SORT OF ENERGY OR WATER CONSUMING DEVICE WITHIN THOSE BUILDINGS THAT POTENTIALLY

COULD BE REPLACED. >> WITH THAT WORK LEASE HOME IMPROVEMENT? IT DEPENDS, THE CLEANEST THING IS FOR THE OWNER OF THE LAND TO BE THE SAME AS THE OWNER OF THE STRUCTURE AND THE ONE THAT ACTUALLY USES THE PROGRAM. IF IT IS A LEASE PROPERTY, THAT CAN WORK, BUT IT USUALLY TAKE THE AGREEMENT OF THE PROPERTY OWNER TO BASICALLY SAY, WE'LL AGREE TO ASSUME THE ASSESSMENT IF OUR TENANT OR WHOEVER IS LEASING THE PROPERTY FOR THE

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BUT IT IS LIKE A 50-YEAR LEASE OR LONG-TERM LEASE. AND SO IT CAN WORK.

>> YOU COULD SOMETIMES YOU HAVE EMPTY BUILDINGS AND THEN YOU WANT TO PUT A RESTAURANT.

IT IS GOING TO COST, YOU KNOW, $500,000 TO GET IT TO WHERE THEY CAN USE IT.

SO THEY HAVE A LEASE, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD USE THAT. >> COMMERCIAL KITCHEN, YOU KNOW.

>> IT IS VERY EXPENSIVE. >> SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS JUST SOME GENERAL SENSE OF WHERE YOU STAND ON THIS PROGRAM. IF YOU'RE OPEN TO IT, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE CONTINUE EXPLORING THE PROGRAM, PROCEED IN, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT RESOLUTIONS.

I'M SURE THOMAS WILL GET MORE INVOLVED, YOU KNOW, AT THIS POINT AS WELL.

AND THEN JUST CONTINUE MOVING THE BALL FORWARD. >> WE DEFINITELY SHOULD MOVE

FORWARD. >> I THINK SO, TOO. >>> LET'S DO IT.

>>> LET'S DO IT. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

[G. Executive Sessions:]

>> MR. MR. TAYLOR. >>> THANK YOU, DANIELLE. >> WITH THAT WE ARE GOING TO RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES AND THEN WE WILL RETURN TO RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

>> AND. >> WOULD YOU PREFER TO SIMPLY RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION NOW AND THEN TAKE YOUR BREAK DURING EXECUTIVE SESSION? THAT WILL ALLOW PEOPLE NOT

NECESSARILY HERE FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION TO GO AHEAD AND LEAVE. >>> WE'LL RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE

SESSION, 7:42 P.M >> THE CITY COUNCIL WILL RECESS FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION ON FIRST DAY OF MARCH 7:52:00 P.M., EXECUTIVE SESSION IN ACCORDANCE WITH TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.072 AND TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE

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