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[A. CALL TO ORDER]

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>> ALL RIGHT. WE WILL CALL THE NOVEMBER MEETING OF THE VICTORIA PARKS COMMISSION TO ORDER. EVERYBODY HAS AN AGENDA PACKET, I BELIEVE.

WE WILL -- I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS OR REMINDERS TO BEGIN WITH.

[C. Citizen Communication:]

WE WILL BEGIN WITH CITIZEN COMMUNICATION. I HAVE ONE CARD.

MR. CLARENCE SMALLS. WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION?

>> YES. >> PLEASE COME UP HERE TO TO THE MICROPHONE.

THANK YOU. >> YES, SIR. I JUST WANT TO SAY I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY. JUSTIN INVITED ME HERE. IT'S ACTUALLY MY FIRST TIME BEING HERE. I JUST WANT TO -- I GUESS YOU WANT ME TO GO AHEAD AND JUST START EXPLAINING WHAT THE N3BA IS. I AM THE FOUNDER AND THE OWNER OF AN ORGANIZATION CALLED THE N3BA. AND IT STANDS FOR MEN'S 361 BASKETBALL ASSOCIATION. AND WHAT WE DO IS, IT'S AN INDEPENDENT PROFESSIONAL BASKETBALL ORGANIZATION WHICH PROVIDES A PLATFORM FOR LOCAL AND NATIONAL PLAYERS AND ALSO NATIONAL TEAMS TO COME OUT HERE TO VICTORIA AND GET ESSEX POSH YOU ARE AND RECOGNITION ACROSS THE WORLD. SO, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE, WE ARE RIGHT IN THE CROSSROADS, IN THE MIDDLE OF EVERYTHING. I HAVE BEEN HERE 12 YEARS AND I AM ACTUALLY FROM FORTWORTH.

I CAME HERE TO DO MY TWO YEARS. I NOTICED THAT EVERYONE ALWAYS DOES COLLEGE TWO YEARS OR ONE YEAR AND THEY LEAVE. OR THEY HAVE BEEN HERE THEIR WHOLE LIFE, GO TWO HOURS AWAY, WE CREATED THIS PLATFORM TO WHERE THEY CAN JUST STAY HOME. REPRESENTING THEIR HOMETOWN, STILL SEE THEIR FAMILY, STILL WORK INSTEAD OF HAVING TO GO GET THE OPPORTUNITY AND SAY YOU DON'T GO ANYWHERE, THEN YOU GOT TO COME BACK HOME. WHY NOT JUST GO AHEAD AND STAY HOME AND WE HAVE THIS PLATFORM TO WHERE YOU CAN PLAY PROFESSIONAL BASKETBALL.

WE INVITE OTHER PROFESSIONAL PLAYERS AND TEAMS TO COME PLAY OUR TEAMS THAT WE HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTING THE PAST TWO YEARS. SO THE PLATFORM IS JUST -- JUST AMAZING.

IT'S BEEN A GOD BLESSING, THE VISION THAT JUST CAME THREE YEARS AGO, IT'S JUST NONSTOP, NONSTOP. SO WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS KEEP CREATING OPPORTUNITIES AND OPTIONS TO WHERE OUR LOCALS CAN STAY HERE. SO WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS WE HAVE BASICALLY REVERSED, YOU KNOW, THE OPPORTUNITY INSTEAD OF THEY ARE GOING THERE TWO HOURS AWAY WE HAVE PEOPLE FROM OUT OF THE COUNTRY ARE ATTRACTED BY THE M3BA.

WE HAVE OUT OF STATE PLIERS, OUT OF STATE COACHES. THEY WANT TO COME TO VICTORIA FOR SIX MONTHS TO COME LIVE AND BE PART OF THE M3BA. SO THAT'S BASICALLY JUST A GENERAL DESCRIPTION OF WHAT WE DO. FOR OUR LOCALS.

>> THAT'S REALLY INTERESTING. YOU MENTIONED THAT LAST TIME, RIGHT, WE WERE, OR WE WERE

TALKING ABOUT IT AFTER THE MEETING MAYBE I GUESS. >> YEAH.

BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN -- YOU KNOW, I PLAY A LOT OF SPORTS. BEEN PLAYING SOFTBALL AND I KIND OF SEE HOW SOME OF THE TOURNAMENTS HAVEN'T BEEN MAKING DUE TO LACK OF TEAMS AND THEN I NOTICED HE'S THROWING HIS TOURNAMENTS AND THEN I HAVE SEEN THESE SOCCER TOURNAMENTS AT THE COMMUNITY SOCCER EVERY WEEKEND. I WAS LIKE, MAN, REALLY WANTING TO, I MEAN IF I DO SOMETHING I WANT TO HAVE THIS GUY, IF I CAN DO ANYTHING, I KNOW THAT ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO HELP THIS GUY, BECAUSE THEY ARE BRINGING SPORTS AND TOURISM TO VICTORIA AND WITH THEIR PROFESSIONAL LEAGUE, SEMI PROFESSIONAL LEAGUE.

SO I WANTED HIM TO COME UP HERE AND EXPLAIN WHAT THEY DO, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, TRY TO GET US ALSO MORE INVOLVED WITH THE COMMUNITY. WE DON'T HAVE TOO MUCH CITIZENS COMMUNICATION OR INVOLVEMENT LIKE THAT. SO WHAT DO YOU THINK, WHAT ARE SOME WAYS THAT WE COULD, DO YOU THINK THAT WE COULD, OR THAT YOU NEED HELP THAT ARE WAYS THAT WE

COULD HELP? >> DEFINITELY HOUSING. AND THE REASON WHY I SAY HOUSING IS BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, THIS ALL STARTED WITH JUST THE LOCALS TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO STAY HOME. BUT NOW, OVER THE PAST YEAR, IT'S ATTRACTED LIKE I SAY OUT OF STATE AND OUT OF THE COUNTRY. PLAYERS. AND I HAVE NOT ONCE REACHED OUT TO THEM. THEY ALWAYS REACH OUT TO US. SO EVERY DAY I WAKE UP, GOT 30 MESSAGES FROM PEOPLE FROM NIGERIA, SOUTH AFRICA, MEXICO, BELIEZE, IT'S ALL OVER.

SO, IF WE COULD SOMEHOW HAVE SOME TYPE OF PARTNERSHIP AS FAR AS HOUSING, WE HAVE LIKE, I MENTIONED TO YOU, JUSTIN, WE HAVE AT LEAST 50 INTERNATIONAL PLAYERS THAT ARE ALREADY COMMITTED TO COME HERE FOR SIX MONTHS AND LIVE AND TRAIN, LIKE I WAS TELLING YOU ABOUT THOSE PROGRAMS, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY WE HAVE THESE TRAINING PROGRAMS FOR BASKETBALL PLAYERS WHERE

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THEY COME IN AND JUST COME IN AND TRAIN AND WORK ON THEIR WEAKNESSES.

SO IF WE COULD HAVE SOME TYPE OF HOUSING SET UP THAT'S GOING TO JUST -- IT'S JUST GOING TO INCREASE AS FAR AS M3BA PLAYERS AND STAFF. AS FAR AS VICTORIA, DIVERSITY.

IT WILL KEEP EVERYTHING DIVERSE. I'M FROM FORT WORTH. WHEN I CAME HERE I HAVE SEEN SO

MANY OPPORTUNITIES. >> ARE THEY CURRENTLY STAYING IN HOTELS?

>> SAY IT AGAIN, SIR. >> THE PEOPLE COMING RIGHT NOW, ARE THEY JUST STAYING IN HOTELS FOR SIX MONTHS OR LIVING WITH LOCAL PEOPLE? HOW ARE THEY HANDLING HOUSING

RIGHT NOW? >> WE ARE STILL TR TRY TO FIGURE THAT OUT.

WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING ON OUR OWN. WE DON'T REALLY HAVE HELP.

I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET WITH REAL ESTATE AGENTS TO GET, YOU KNOW, TRY TO SEE HOW MANY BEDROOMS THEY HAVE, GET LIKE A NUMBER. SO, AS FAR AS LIKE INTERNATIONALS, THEY ARE NOT HERE YET SO WE ARE STILL WORKING ON, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET DONATIONS AND STUFF BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION, AS WELL, YOU KNOW, 501C3 STATUS SO WE ARE TRYING TO GET HELP TO GET DONATIONS SO WE CAN USE THAT FOR HOUSING.

BUT OUT OF STATE PLAYERS, WE ARE GOING TO BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, SET UP A JOB, YOU KNOW, OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM SO WHEN THEY COME OUT HERE, THEY CAN PAY THEIR OWN RENT.

BUT THE INTERNATIONALS THEY HAVE A LOT OF RESTRICTIONS AND RED TAPE, YOU KNOW.

THEY CAN'T WORK CERTAIN HOURS AND ONCE THEY GET OVER HERE THEY CAN'T REALLY DO AS MUCH SO, BUT OUT OF STATE, THEY ARE CITIZENS SO THEY CAN COME HERE, WORK, AND STILL PAY THEIR RENT.

BUT WE WANT TO GET TO WHERE WE CAN PROVIDE THE HOUSING. BECAUSE IF WE ARE PROVIDING HOUSING, WE ARE ALREADY SAVING THEM MONEY AS FAR AS SAVING ON HOUSING.

THEY ARE GOING TO GO OH, I'M ALREADY SAVING MONEY SO I WANT TO DEVELOP MAY GAME, BUILD MY BASKETBALL PROFILE, MOVE TO VICTORIA AND GO BACK HOME WITH THE EXPERIENCE THAT THEY HAVING HERE AND IT WILL CREATE THAT PIPELINE FOR THEIR HOMETOWN WHEN THEY GO BACK HOME, THEN THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE OTHERS LIKE OH, I WANT TO GO CHECK OUT VICTORIA. SIX MONTHS OR DO A VISIT.

BUT THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE ARE DOING RIGHT NOW. JUST TRYING TO JUST DO THE BEST WE CAN. BUT IF WE CAN GET HOUSING THAT WILL OPEN UP THE PORTAL AS FAR

AS THE INTERNATIONAL AND THE OUT OF STATE MORE. >> ARE THERE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS

AND OTHER COMMUNITIES DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING HERE? >> AS FAR AS --

>> AS PART OF A LARGER LEAGUE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? >> AS FAR AS MY RESEARCH, IT'S AN UNTAPPED MARKET. AS FAR AS THE 361 FOR SURE AND SOUTH TEXAS AND NO ONE HAS WHAT WE HAVE. TO SAY IT THE MOST HUMBLY WAY, NO ONE HAS WHAT WE HAVE.

LIKE I WAS JUST MENTIONING TO YOU. WE HAVE HOMESCHOOLED KIDS NOW THAT ARE JOINING OUR BASKETBALL LEAGUE SO, YOU COULD BE HOMESCHOOLED, YOU CAN BE IN COLLEGE, YOU CAN BE OUT OF COLLEGE, YOU KNOW, IT'S PRETTY MUCH A PLAYERS' LEAGUE.

IT'S JUST WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO. AS FAR AS HOMESCHOOL, YOU GOT TO GET A PARENT APPROVAL, YOU KNOW, PRETTY MUCH IT'S THAT SIMPLE. BUT, OTHER THAN THAT -- WE ARE JUST DOING THE BEST WE CAN. BUT NO ONE HAS WHAT WE HAVE. JUST BY MY EXPERIENCE AND

KNOWLEDGE ALL THE RESEARCH I'VE DONE. >> DOES IT COST MONEY TO

PARTICIPATE IN THE LEAGUE? >> YES. IT DOES.

BECAUSE IT IS A SERVICE. BUT IF YOU HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE DAY ONE LIKE WE STARTED THREE YEARS AGO WE PRETTY MUCH COVER FEES BECAUSE WE KNOW YOU ARE ALL IN AND WE TRUST THAT YOU WILL BE HERE. BUT IF JUSTIN, YOU WANT TO COME BUILD YOUR BASKETBALL PROFILE, YOU WILL PAY A MEMBERSHIP FEE, LET'S SAY $75 BUCKS. BUT SEMI PRO TEAMS AND ORGANIZATIONS EVERYWHERE ELSE, THEY CHARGE YOU $150, $250, PLUS $50 PER MONTH.

WE ARE JUST CHARGING A FLAT RATE. SO WE WANT TO MAKE IT A REASONABLE COST, TOO. YOU KNOW. FOR OUR PLAYERS.

>> IS THE GOAL TO DEVELOP A TEAM HERE LOCALLY THAT CAN COMPETE WITH THOSE OTHER TEAMS?

>> YES. >> THAT ARE ALREADY OUT THERE. >> YES BUT ALSO -- SORRY --

>> ESTABLISHED LEAGUES ALREADY OUT THERE FOR. >> I'M SORRY, REPEAT THAT AGAIN.

>> ARE THERE ESTABLISHED PRO OR SEMI PRO BASKETBALL LEAGUES ALREADY OUT THERE THAT YOU WOULD

PLAY IN? >> YEAH, WE HAVE ALREADY PLAYED A COUPLE SEMI PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATIONS THAT ACTUALLY BEAT TWO OF THEM ALREADY. LIKE I SAID WE HAVE ONLY BEEN DOING THIS THREE YEARS BUT WE HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, VICTORIA, WHAT I KNOW ABOUT VICTORIA PLAYERS IS, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE STILL DRAGGING THEIR FEET A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW.

BUT WE HAVE THAT SYSTEM TO WHERE WE GOT TO KEEP THAT FIRE LIT IN THEM.

BUT WE HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTING TEAMS, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 50 PLAYERS SO WE HAVE FIVE TEAMS AND LIKE I WAS SAYING, WE HAVE THREE REGULAR LEAGUE TEAMS KIND OF LIKE THE NBA LEVEL, LIKE THE LAKERS, THEN A G LEAGUE. WE HAVE THREE REGULAR TEAMS AND THREE D LEAGUE TEAMS TO WHERE THEY CAN MOVE UP WITHIN OUR SYSTEM. WE ARE BASICALLY CREATING OUR

OWN NBA. >> YOU HAVE BEEN HAVING TOURNAMENTS WHERE TEAMS ARE COMING FROM OUT OF TOWN TO PARTICIPATE. RIGHT?

>> YES, SIR. >> AND BEEN THROWING TOURNAMENTS AT THE BASKETBALL GYM.

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>> YEAH. WE HAVE DONE, THE PAST ONE WE JUST DID, IT WAS TEXAS VERY YOUNG PART 2, ACTUALLY OUR THIRD TOURNAMENT. OUR FIRST WAS CINCO DE MAYO.

ONLY 30 PEOPLE SHOWED UP, IT WAS THE FIRST EVENT. I WAS LIKE, MAN, YOU KNOW.

BUT WE HAD EIGHT TEAMS THE FIRST EVENT IT WAS LIKE ONE FROM CORPUS, ACTUALLY TWO FROM COR PUS, ONE FROM HOUSTON, ONE FROM AUSTIN, THREE FROM SAN ANTONIO AND THEN THREE FROM VICTORIA.

THEN PART ONE AT ST. JOSEPH HOSPITAL THEN FIVE TEAMS FROM VICTORIA, I WANT TO SAY TWO CORPUS, HOUSTON, SAN ANTONIO AND AUSTIN. THEN THIS RECENT ONE WE JUST HAD OCTOBER 2 WAS LIKE THE BEST TOURNAMENT I THINK I'VE EVER EVEN SEEN AS A BASKETBALL PLAYER, TOO. WE HAD SEVEN TEAMS AND THEN WE HAD FOUR, WE HAD THREE OF OUR OWN TEAMS AND WE HAD ONE FROM AUSTIN, TWO FROM CORPUS AND ONE FROM HOUSTON.

>> WHERE DID YOU ALL PLAY? >> AT VICTORIA COLLEGE. IT HAD TO BE LIKE A HUNDRED

DUNKS FROM THAT TOURNAMENT. >> THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS, THANK YOU FOR COMING, JUST BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE BEEN SPEAKING ABOUT SPORTS AND TOURISM AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND THEN I AM LIKE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS MORE TO, FOR MYSELF, TO BE INVOLVED WITH THE COMMISSION AND I PLAY A LOT OF SPORTS LIKE I SAID AND I'VE BEEN PLAYING IN THESE TOURNAMENTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO, HIM BEING ONE AND THEN MAYBE THE GUY WHO THROWS TOURNAMENTS FOR SOFTBALL, YOU KNOW, SO WHATEVER HE NEEDS, SO HE'S SAYING HOUSING, AND MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN WORK TO AND PROVIDE WAYS BEFORE THAT MAYBE LIKE PROMOTING DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. OF JUST TO SUPPORT YOUR EVENTS. EVEN IF IT'S UNTIL WE GET TO A POINT THAT IS HOUSING. AND MAYBE YOU AND ME CAN WORK TOGETHER ON SOME KIND OF PLAN ON HOW WE WOULD GET THERE AND THAT WAY WE CAN PRESENT THEM AND SHOW HOW WE WOULD DO THAT IF IT WAS,

YOU KNOW, TO MOVE FORWARD. OF. >> YES.

>> SO I AM GLAD YOU CAME. THAT'S WHAT I WANT. I WANT TO SHINE A LIGHT ON THE

THINGS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE, TOO, IN VICTORIA. >> APPRECIATE THAT.

>> AND TRY TO ELEVATE THOSE THINGS FOR OUR PEOPLE IN VICTORIA ALSO.

>> HOW MANY PLAYERS DO YOU CURRENTLY HAVE? >> 50.

AND COUNTING. >> HOW MANY DO YOU WANT? >> DO I WANT?

>> MM-HMM. >> LIKE I SAID, WE ARE BUILDING OUR OWN NBA SO -- IT'S NO LIMIT.

>> OK. >> REALLY NO LIMIT. >> HOW LONG DO YOU NEED HOUSING

FOR? >> THEY WOULD COME FOR SIX MONTHS SO -- LET'S SAY LIKE THIS JANUARY, WE ARE GOING -- WELL WE START OUR SEASON NEXT MONTH. SO THE INTERNATIONALS AND OUT OF STATE, THEY WILL POSSIBLY BE HERE IN JANUARY. SO IT WOULD BE KIND OF LIKE JANUARY TO JUNE AND THEN OCTOBER TO, YOU KNOW, LIKE EVERY SIX MONTHS TIME FRAME.

SO IT WOULDN'T BE LIKE A MONTH TO MONTH. IT WOULD BE LIKE A SET SIX

MONTHS. >> ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE GENERALS, THEY DO A SIMILAR

PROGRAM WHERE THEY HOUSE -- >> YEAH, THE GENERALS, YES. >> FOR SIX MONTHS.

I GUESS. >> YES, MA'AM. >> THEY HAVE SPONSORED THAT TAKE THEM IN AND HOUSE THEM FOR SIX MONTHS. SO THEY MIGHT BE SOMEONE YOU

WOULD WANT TO WORK WITH THAT WOULD HELP YOU COORDINATE THAT. >> WE HAVE NO HELP.

WHEN I SAY THAT, WE HAVE NO HELP. WE ARE LITERALLY ON OUR OWN.

GOD'S HELP AND STRENGTH AND VISION. JUST WILL POWER.

JUST ACTION. THAT'S BASICALLY HOW WE HAVE PRETTY MUCH BEEN TALKING TO YOU

GUYS. >> AWESOME. >> YES.

SO ANY HELP WOULD JUST -- IT WOULD JUST BE SO MUCH GRATEFUL ON OUR END.

>> MR. SMALLS, THANKS VERY MUCH FOR SHARING THAT WITH US. >> THANK Y'ALL.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. >> THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE WELCOME.

THANK YOU ALL. >> TAKE CARE.

>> I DON'T SEE ANYBODY ELSE THAT'S HERE THAT WOULD CARE TO ADDRESS THE -- UNLESS JASON YOU WANT TO ADDRESS US AS A CITIZEN? NO? OK.

>> I CAN FOLLOW UP ON OUR UPDATE WITH THAT. >> WE WILL DO THAT LATER.

ALL RIGHT. OK. NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS APPROVAL

[1. Adoption of Minutes]

OF THE MINUTES. HAS EVERYBODY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE MINUTES AND ARE THERE ANY DIRECTIONS, ANY CORRECTIONS OR ADDITIONS TO THE MINUTES THAT ANYONE --

>> IT LOOKED GOOD. >> IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? >> MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> I SECOND. >> MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS

PRESENTED. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED, SAME SIGN. ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD.

OK. SO -- ON TO OTHER BUSINESS. TOP OF THE LIST, DISCUSS AND

[1. Discuss and take appropriate action on the Parks and Recreation Master...]

TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION ON THE PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN.

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WHAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO DO TONIGHT IS TO DECIDE WHETHER TO SEND THIS ON TO COUNCIL WITH OUR APPROVAL. OR EXACTLY WHAT. COUNCIL'S SET UP TO -- COUNCIL HAS IT ON THEIR AGENDA TO REVIEW ON THE 16TH. IS THAT RIGHT?

>> YES, SIR. >> OK. AND SO -- YOU KNOW, WE HAD OUR MEETING LAST WEEK TO KIND OF GO IT WITH CHRISTIAN. AND SO -- THAT'S THE BUSINESS.

DID EVERYBODY GET A COPY OF THE PLAN THAT WANTED TO SEE IT AND REVIEW IT?

>> YES, SIR. >> I KNOW IT'S A LITTLE LAST MINUTE BUT WE DO STILL HAVE SOME

HARD COPIES HERE IN CASE YOU NEED IT. >> OK.

SO I THINK WE WILL JUST OPEN THE FLOOR TO BEGIN WITH TO FOR ANY COME MEANTS FROM COMMISSIONERS ON ADOPTION OF THE PLAN. I GUESS WE SHOULD HAVE A MOTION FIRST FOR -- TO ADOPT.

THEN WE WILL HAVE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION. >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT

IT AS PRESENTED. >> OK. IS THERE A SECOND?

>> YOU ARE MAKING THE MOTION BEFORE THE -- >> THAT'S REALLY THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO WORK BUT WE NEVER DO THAT. WE ARE NOT GOING TO VOTE.

WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT. BUT -- YEAH. IS THERE A SECOND FOR THE

MOTION? >> MAYBE -- DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANT TO SAY?

>> I KNOW SOME PEOPLE ALREADY HAVE ISSUES WITH SOME OF THE STUFF THAT'S IN IT.

SO I GUESS -- I MEAN I AM WILLING TO SECOND IT, BUT THEN WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS IT.

RIGHT? >> YEAH. >> THIS IS JUST TO BRING IT TO

THE TABLE. >> OK. SECOND IT.

>> ALL RIGHT. SO THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THE PLAN? SO LET'S HAVE THAT. YOU WANT TO JUST START AROUND THE TABLE OR -- GAIL, DO YOU HAVE THOUGHTS OR CONCERNS? WHAT'S YOUR SITUATION ON

ADOPTING THE PLAN? >> I WAS REALLY SURPRISED WITH THE PLAN AND A LOT THAT IT ENTAILS. I SHARED SOME STUFF WITH JASON. I WAS WONDERING, COULD YOU RECAP

THE STUFF THAT I SHARED WITH YOU? >> SURE.

>> UM -- YEAH. JUST GOING RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I KNOW THERE WAS TWO ITEMS THAT YOU WERE CONCERNED ABOUT. ONE OF THEM WAS IN REGARDS TO A SECONDARY TRAIL SYSTEM THAT WAS GOING TO BE GOING I BELIEVE IN THE FOXES BEND AREA.

SO, COMMISSIONER REPKA SENT ME AN E-MAIL ASKING ME ABOUT THE SECONDARY TRAIL AND BASICALLY, THEN CONCEPTUAL DESIGN IS JUST THAT. IT'S A CONCEPT AND IT IS A DESIGN. I FEEL LIKE WE DO HAVE ENOUGH GREEN SPACE TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE A SECONDARY TRAIL SYSTEM THERE WITHIN THAT SECTION OF THE PARK.

BUT, IF THERE IS CONCERN ABOUT IT, WE CAN DEFINITELY SPEAK TO THAT.

ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THE CONSTRUCTION, YOU KNOW, PHASE OF IT.

SO, AGAIN, THESE ARE CONCEPTS. IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE WANT TO CHANGE AFTER THERE'S FUNDING OR WHEN THERE'S TRULY CONSTRUCTION DESIGN AND TOPICS AND DISCUSSIONS, WE CAN DEFINITELY ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS AT THAT TIME. ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I DID MENTION IS THAT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UTILIZE ALL THE SPACES AS POSSIBLE AND APPROPRIATELY AS POSSIBLE. SO IF WE DO FIND THAT THERE'S AN AREA THAT CAN FIT A COUPLE DIFFERENT AMENITIES AND CAN DO SO SAFELY, THAT WE WILL WOULD LOOK AT DOING THAT SUCH AS HAVING A SECONDARY TRAIL POTENTIALLY WHERE YOU HAVE A DISC GOLF COURSE. THAT WAS THE ONE CONCERN. THEN THE OTHER CONCERN WAS THE BOAT RAMP. CORRECT? THE BOAT RAMP WHICH WAS IN THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN, IT WAS KIND OF IN THE BOWL, IF YOU WILL, QUOTE, UNQUOTE, THE BOWL OF RIVERSIDE PARK. AND THAT WAS FOR THE NEW KAYAK LAUNCH.

THAT WAS FOR THE NEW, YEAH, THE NEW KAYAK LAUNCH. AND, AGAIN, IT'S A CONCEPT.

SO WE CAN SHIFT THAT FROM THE BOWL AREA TO OUTSIDE OF THE BOWL AREA TO WHERE WE HAVE ACTUALLY HAD SOME CONVERSATION WITH ASHLEY AND THE PUMP HOUSE ABOUT LOCATIONS FOR A NEW KAYAK LAUNCH, ANYWAY, OR A PULL OUT BECAUSE THE CURRENT LOCATION IS JUST A LOT OF OBSTACLES THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH. SO AGAIN, THOSE WERE MY RESPONSES TO THE COMMISSIONER, THAT THEY WERE CONCEPTUAL IN NATURE. THIS DOESN'T NECESSARILY TIE US DOWN TO THIS LOCATION. THERE HAS TO BE A PICNIC BENCH HERE OR THERE HAS TO BE X HERE.

WE CAN MOVE THAT IF NEEDED. >> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP THE PLAN IN PERSPECTIVE AND

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REALIZE WHAT IT IS AND WHAT IT'S NOT. AND AGAIN, LIKE YOU JUST SAID, IT'S A CONCEPT. BUT IT'S NOT A DESIGN. IT'S NOT -- IT'S NOT SAYING THIS IS WHERE THIS IS GOING TO GO, IT SAYS THESE ARE THE -- THIS IS NOT HOW WE ARE GOING TO DO IT, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO CONSIDER DOING. THE "HOW" WILL COME LATER WHEN WE SIT DOWN AND DESIGN HOW THOSE THINGS ARE GOING TO WORK TOGETHER.

NOBODY'S GOING TO -- NOBODY'S GOING TO CRAM STUFF TOGETHER IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT'S NOT SAFE OR NOT USEABLE WE ARE TRYING TO DEAL WITH A MULTITUDE OF THINGS. MANY OF WHICH THAT WON'T HAPPEN.

OTHER STUFF WILL HAPPEN THAT WE DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT YET. WE ARE TRYING TO LOOK INTO THE FUTURE AND SEE WHAT'S DOWN THE ROAD AND WHAT WE SORT OF LIKE TO HAVE AND LIKE TO CONSIDER, AS WE, YOU KNOW, WITH SOME SORT OF ORGANIZATION THAT THEY HAVE GIVEN US.

I THOUGHT THEY HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB OF ANALYZING WHAT WE'VE GOT, THEY LISTENED TO A LOT OF INPUT FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE ABOUT WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE. AND THEY HAVE DONE I THINK THEY HAVE DONE A VERY REASONABLE JOB OF BRINGING THAT TOGETHER, GIVING US SOMETHING THAT WE CAN START ON. AND OF COURSE I THINK OUR JOB AS A COMMISSION IS GOING TO BE TO TRY TO KEEP THE PLAN OUT THERE AND KEEP IT FRESH AND ALIVE AND SO FORTH.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S JUST -- IT'S JUST -- NOT HOW WE ARE GOING TO DO IT, IT'S JUST WHAT ARE WE GOING TO CONSIDER DOING. SO -- I JUST WANT TO KEEP THAT PERSPECTIVE ON --

>> THINK ONE THING THAT WAS GIVING ME TROUBLE WITH THE PLAN WAS I WAS TRYING TO LOOK AT THE 10-YEAR PLAN AS A SAFETY YET OF LIKE WE NEED TO GET SOME THINGS IN HERE TO ENSURE THAT POSSIBLY, MAYBE, THEY ARE ATTENDED TO OR LOOKED AFTER. AND I WAS MAYBE HOPING TO GET SOME -- I DON'T KNOW -- MAYBE PRIOR -- TO GIVE THE DISC GOLF COURSE, THE HEALTH COURSE, THE PRIORITY OF NOT BEING DISTURBED TO TRY TO SUPPORT THAT. AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT TO BUILD UPON IT. AND I SAW SOME AMENITIES THAT WERE BEING LIKE PLACED ON TOP OF

IT SO THAT KIND OF REALLY -- >> I SUPPORT THE DISC GOLF COURSE BECAUSE EVERY TIME I GO OUT THERE, IT'S BEING UTILIZED RIVERSIDE PARK. I GO OUT THERE A LOT.

SO, ON ME, I HAVE -- GO AHEAD, I'M SORRY. >> SO THAT WAS ONE THING.

IF I COULD GET SOME REINFORCEMENT OF WE ARE GOING TO SUPPORT THE DISC GOLF ADVENTURE HERE IN VICTORIA AND BUILD UPON IT AND MAYBE TRY TO PRIORITIZE IT.

>> I THINK, YEAH. I MEAN I THINK THERE'S -- WE HAVE -- I THINK THE COMMUNITY HAS SHOWN REMARKABLE COMMITMENT TO DISC GOLF AND WE HAVE, AGAINST OUR PEER CITIES, WE ARE WAY AHEAD OF THE CURVE. SO I THINK, I MEAN I THINK DISC GOLF HAS A PERMANENT PLACE HERE.

CERTAINLY IT'S -- >> THAT WHAT'S WE HOPE. >> IT'S DOING WHAT --

>> I AGREE. I'M GOING TO PLAY TOMORROW. >> I WANT THEM TO USE THE HOTELS. I DON'T WANT THEM TO CAMP OUT THERE ANYMORE.

JASON WANTS THEM TO USE THE HOTELS. >> AND THINK, NOT TO GET OUT OF TURN, BUT I AGREE. I THINK EVERYBODY HAS SAID DISC GOLF IS IMPORTANT, THE CITY HAS -- I THINK IT WOULD BE INTERESTING IF THEY CHANGED UP THE COURSE.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO COMPLETELY REMAKE IT, BUT IF THERE'S A WAY TO INCORPORATE ADDING OTHER FEATURES INTO THE PARK BUT STILL ALLOWING, AGAIN, PRIORITIZING DISC GOLF SAYING IT'S SOMETHING WE WANT AS A KEYSTONE FEATURE OF OUR PARK BUT MAYBE THE WAY IT'S SET UP RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, WE COULD MOVE ONE OR TWO HOLES AROUND AND ADD IN ANOTHER PLAYSCAPE IN THERE SO WE AREN'T GETTING RID OF IT BUT MAYBE JUST REARRANGING STUFF IN THE PARK BECAUSE THE THOUGHT THAT I GET IS, YOU KNOW, THEY PUT IT IN THERE BECAUSE WE HAD SUCH EXTRA SPACE BUT MAYBE IT WASN'T THE MOST EFFICIENT USE OF ALL OF THE SPACE. AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW THAT'S JUST KIND OF MY THOUGHT. MAYBE THERE'S A WAY TO GET THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS TOMORROW.

KEEP DISC GOLF AS A PRIORITY BUT ADD OTHER THINGS IN BY ARRANGING THE COURSE.

AS FAR AS I KNOW, WHEN IS THE LAST TIME THE WHOLE COURSE WAS REARRANGED?

>> THAT'STHE WHOLE POINT. IT WAS CREATED BY JOHN HALK, WHO 38 YEARS LATER HAS GONE ON TO BECOME THE WORLD FAMOUS DISC GOLF DESIGNER. YOU WANT TO KEEP HIS DESIGN INTACT BECAUSE IT'S HIS COURSE. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING 38 YEARS TO TRY TO PRESERVE AND MAINTAIN HIS COURSE DESIGN SO THAT WE CAN KEEP CALLING IT A HAUP COURSE. IF WE GO CHANGING IT, THEN IT'S

NOT SO MUCH A HAUP COURSE ANYMORE. >> GOTCHA.

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>> SO THERE'S NO DESIRE TO CHANGE THE COURSE? THE COMMUNITY.

>> WELL IT HAS GROWN. WE HAVE EXTRA PINS ON BASKETS AND YOU NOTICE THAT THE BASKETS DO MOVE AROUND. YEAH. SO THERE'S EXTRA PINS AND I JUST SHARED A LINK WITH JASON. IT'S THE VICTORIAPARKS.ORG, THE COALITION WEBSITE.

UP THERE, I HAVE A DISC GOLF RESOURCE SO I HAVE ALL THE MAPS AND THE TEE SIGNS FOR ALL THE COURSES EXCEPT FOR TRACY. I DON'T HAVE TRACY UP RIGHT NOW. I APOLOGIZE.

BUT YEAH, SO THERE'S A RESOURCE THERE. AND YOU CAN SEE ALL THE MAPS AND ALL THE TEE SIGNS AND THE TEE SIGNS IS WHERE IT BREAKS DOWN TO SHOW THE ALTERNATE PIN

LOCATIONS. >> I HAVE SEEN THAT. I'VE NEVER KNOWN EXACTLY HOW IT WORKED. BUT WE GO OUT THERE AND PLAY PRETTY REGULARLY AT LUNCH.

YOU CAN GET 12 HOLES IN AT LUNCH. I'M NOT THAT GREAT YET.

>> THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT COULD BENEFIT YOU. MAYBE PICNIC TABLES OR --

>> MOST DEFINITELY. >> THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE COULD BRING OVER THERE THAT

WOULD BENEFIT YOU OVER THERE. >> YEAH, FOXES BEND HAS BEEN CRYING FOR PICNIC TABLES AND

SHADE. THINGS LIKE THAT. >> THAT'S WHAT WE WILL ADDRESS WHEN WE ARE TO THE POINT OF DOING THOSE THINGS. BUT IN TERMS OF AN OVERALL PLAN, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CONCEPT IS THIS THAT WE WANT TO LOOK AT THOSE THINGS AND MAKE SHARE THAT THEY WORK AS WELL AS THEY CAN TOGETHER. OR IF IT'S NOT A TRAIL, OR IF IT'S A PARTIAL TRAIL, WHATEVER IT IS, BECAUSE THE -- I MEAN -- LIKE I SAID, THE ACTUAL DOING WILL TAKE PLACE AT A POINT FURTHER DOWN THE LINE. THIS DOESN'T SET ANY TIME FRAMES THAT WE DO ANYTHING IN A PARTICULAR ORDER OR WAY. OTHER THOUGHTS?

>> THAT WAS MY MAIN CONCERN. >> OTHER THOUGHTS? >> YEAH I WAS LOOKING, TRYING TO FIND THE TRAIL. I DIDN'T THINK I HAD SEEN ATHEE TRAIL.

REMEMBER DR. REESE HAD CAME, HE WAS MENTIONING THAT TRAIL. AND I HAD GOT INTERESTED IN BECAUSE HE KEEPS TALKING TO ME ABOUT IT EVEN AT OUR OTHER BOARD MEETINGS.

>> HE'S PASSIONATE ABOUT THE TRAIL SYSTEM, YES, SIR. >> YEAH, HE KEEPS TELLING ME I GOT TO GO OUT THERE BECAUSE HE'S INVITED ME A COUPLE OF TIMES TO WALK WITH HIM HOWEVER LONG THAT WOULD TAKE. BUT YEAH, SO I WAS JUST WONDERING, IS THAT OURS? YOU KNOW, WHAT -- IS THERE ANYTHING THAT COULD BE DONE WITH -- BECAUSE HE DID HAVE SOME GREAT IDEAS, TOO. I WOULD LOVE TO, AT THE LEAST, HAVE SOME FEEDBACK FOR HIM SINCE

HE TOOK THE TIME TO COME OUT HERE. >> YEAH -- YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT JUST -- YOU MIGHT MENTION TO HIM THE PRIORITY THAT THE PLAN PLACES ON TRAILS.

>> BUT I DIDN'T SEE THAT NAME ON OUR TRAILS. RIGHT?

THERE WAS A LIST OF TRAILS. >> I THINK IT'S PART OF THE PASEO DE VICTORIA AND COMBINES

ALL OF THE TRAILS, THE LONE TREE TRAIL. >> AFTER OUR MEETING LAST TIME I WAS RIDING BY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE IT WAS AND I COULDN'T FIND IT.

I WAS JUST INTERESTED AND HE HAD ALSO MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT A MAP, A TRAIL OF MAPS AND THEN SAYING HOW LONG THE DISTANCE WAS FOR THE TRAILS. I JUST THOUGHT THOSE WERE SOME INTERESTING IDEAS. WHEN I HADN'T SEEN THE ACTUAL NAME, THAT'S INTERESTING INFORMATION THAT YOU GIVE ME. I JUST HAD FIGURED MAYBE THAT'S NOT OUR TRAIL.

SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO THAT'S JUST WHY I WAS BRINGING IT UP.

>> GOTCHA. YEAH. THE ATHEE NATURE TRAIL IS CONSIDERED IN RIVERSIDE PARK, IF YOU WILL. IT'S INCORPORATED WITHIN THAT LARGE CONCEPT PLAN THAT THEY HAVE. THAT SITE PLAN, IN THE APPENDICES. I DON'T THINK IT SPECIFICALLY SPELLS OUT ATHEE NATURE TRAIL.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH DR. REESE ON A DEPARTMENT LEVEL.

WE STARTED REACHING OUT TO HIM AND WORKING WITH HIM ON SOME OF THE NATURE-BASED PROGRAMS. HE WAS WANTING TO START SOME INFORMATIVE TYPE TRAILS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

ONE OF OUR RECREATION COORDINATORS WHO UNFORTUNATELY HAS LEFT, STARTED A CONVERSATION WITH HIM ABOUT THAT. AND SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE DO WANT TO CONTINUE TO INVESTIGATE AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT CREATING SOME KIND OF A PROGRAM LIKE THAT.

BUT I JUST -- I QUITE HONESTLY I DON'T RECALL IF IT'S THERE WITHIN -- IT IS SPELLED OUT?

WHERE IS THAT AT? >> IT'S ON PAGE 68 IS WHERE THEY START TALKING ABOUT THE TRAIL NETWORK AND THE EXISTING TRAILS AND WHAT THE LEVEL OF SERVICE SHOULD BE THERE.

>> YEAH, ONE OF THE BIG POINTS IS THAT IT IS AN EXISTING TRAIL. SO IT'S NOT BEING ADDED ON.

I DIDN'T SEE IT IN THE APPENDIX, BUT IN THE MAIN BODY, THOSE FIVE CHAPTERS, IT'S THROUGHOUT ALL FIVE CHAPTERS. SO, IF YOU KIND OF LOOK IN BETWEEN THE GOLF COURSE AND THE

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RV PARK, YOU WILL USUALLY SEE LINES WHERE IT KIND OF LIKE FORKS INTO TWO.

AND THEN IT COMES BACK INTO ONE RIGHT ABOUT -- >> RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT BEING

MOWED. RIGHT? >> WELL IT'S A NATURE TRAIL SO

IT'S VERY HEAVILY -- >> OH, IT'S ALL NATURE. >> IT'S ALL NATURE.

ONE OF HIS THINGS IS THE ACTUAL TRAIL ITSELF IS WHERE IT NEEDS SOME WORK.

THERE ARE SOME AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN WASHED OUT AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HE WANTS IS, IT TO BE CUT BACK A LITTLE BIT OFF OF THE TRAIL ITSELF WHICH WE DO PERIODICALLY.

JUST NOT ON A ROUTINE BASIS. >> THAT'S WONDERFUL. SO MY THING IS JUST, YOU KNOW, IF PEOPLE, NOT OFTEN TAKE THEIR TIME TO COME AND IF THEY DO, THEN I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY FEEL HEARD, SO MAYBE OTHER PEOPLE CAN COME UP AND, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S WHAT MY -- ONLY CONCERN WITH THIS WAS BECAUSE YOU MAKE THE GOOD POINT THAT IT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT WE

CAN ALTER AS WE GO FORWARD. SO THANK YOU. >> ABSOLUTELY.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT UP. >> I AM HAPPY WITH THIS.

I MEAN I LOOKED THROUGH IT THOROUGHLIENED IT ALLOWS US TO GROW AND CONNECT MANY ORGANIZATIONS TO BENEFITING THE PARK LIKE VIESTE'S MENTIONED IN HERE, MULTIPLE ORGANIZATIONS LIKE TO HELP BRING NEW THINGS TO THE PARK AS WELL. IT'S A VERY THOROUGH PLAN.

AND THEN I MEAN -- IT ADDRESSES EVERYTHING. PART OF IT WAS, YOU KNOW, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. IT NEEDS WORK, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT LITTLE GRAPH THAT WAS ON PAGE 77, AND MOVING FORWARD, YOU SEE THAT Y'ALL ADDRESSED ALL OF THE AREAS WHERE PEOPLE WANTED YOU TO PUT MORE EFFORTS INTO. AND, YOU KNOW, ONE THING THE AMPHITHEATER, I WENT TO MOANA AND IT'S TOO SMALL. I MEAN IT DOES NEED TO BE EXPANDED ON.

WE NEED MORE STAGE SPACE, WHICH I MEAN I KNOW THAT'S PART OF THE PLAN.

I JUST GOT TO SEE IT FIRST HAND HOW, YOU KNOW, ENHANCING THAT FACILITY WOULD BRING MORE, YOU KNOW, MORE EVENTS THERE. AND I MEAN IT WOULD BE AWESOME TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN RIVERSIDE. BUT WE AREN'T THERE YET. LIKE WE WILL MAKE THIS ONE AMAZING AND THEN MAYBE ONE DAY. RIGHT? BUT I MEAN, I AM REALLY HAPPY WITH THIS DRAFT. AND -- I MEAN I, Y'ALL LOOKED AFTER EVERYTHING THAT I THINK ALL OF US ARE INVESTED IN. I MEAN EVERYONE WILL GROW WITH THIS PLAN.

I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. >> THANK YOU.

>> I, TOO, WAS IMPRESSED WITH IT. I WAS IMPRESSED WITH THE LEVEL OF NEEDS AND ANALYSIS THAT WAS DONE. I COMMEND THE STAFF AND THE CONSULTANTS ON THE EFFORTS THEY TRIED -- THEY WENT TO TO GET PUBLIC INPUT.

I KNOW YOU TRIED OVER AND OVER, I KNOW YOU GOT INPUT. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WERE ANY SURPRISES. ALSO I WAS IMPRESSED, TOO, WITH THE FACT THAT THEY GAVE RECOMMENDATIONS. THEY WENT DOWN TO EVEN WHEN YOU NEED TO DO WITH YOUR STAFF AND HOW TO CONSOLIDATE MAINTENANCE TO SAVE MONEY FROM A CONCEPT LEVEL, IT'S A CONCEPT DOCUMENT, I AM HAPPY WITH IT. AND I THINK IT'S THOROUGH. OF COURSE, I AM CURIOUS TO KNOW WHAT THE NEXT STEP IS, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW CITY PROCESSES. BUT, JUST WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP?

WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? >> WE ARE DONE, THAT'S IT. PUT YOUR BOOKS ON THE SHELF TO

COLLECT DUST. JUST KIDDING. >> THERE'S BUBBLES ON PAPER.

>> I WAS JUST KIDDING. SO THE NEXT STEP IS, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY ONCE WE EITHER APPROVE OR WE DON'T APPROVE TONIGHT, IT WOULD BE TAKEN TO CITY COUNCIL. IF IT'S APPROVED HERE TONIGHT, WE WILL GO TO CITY COUNCIL FOR A FORMAL ADOPTION. ONCE FORMALLY ADOPTED WE LITERALLY HAVE A 10-YEAR PLAN. WHAT WE WILL BE DOING AS A COMMISSION AND MR. K MR. KEELINI HAVE DISCUSSED THIS, WE WILL REVIEW IT EVERY YEAR AND SITTING DOWN WITH THE COMMISSION AND STAFF AND FINE TUNING IT TO SEE WHAT WE WILL SHOOT FOR, IF YOU WILL, FOR OUR GOALS FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR AND AT THE YEARLY RETREAT WE WILL DIGRESS AND TELL YOU WHAT WE ACCOMPLISHED OVER THE YEAR AND WHAT WE ARE GOING TO PLAN FOR THIS UPCOMING YEAR. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO REVIEW, PROBABLY EACH QUARTER, GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON CERTAIN THINGS.

BUT WE WILL NONETHELESS EACH YEAR WE WILL SIT DOWN AND DIVE INTO IT WITH YOU AS A

COMMISSION, US A STAFF, VERY DETAILED AND THOROUGHLY. >> I DO WANT TO MAKE AN ADDITIONAL COMMENT AND THAT IS THE LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT THEY CAME UP WITH ON THE MLK PARK, YOU KNOW, WHICH WAS ONE OF THE SMALLER PARKS WHERE THEY SHOWED, YOU KNOW, THEY DEVELOPED EVEN

FURTHER. >> YES, MA'AM. >> I REALLY -- I THINK IT SETS THE EXPECTATION, I HOPE YOU WILL AGREE WITH ME THAT IT SETS THE EXPECTATION OF THAT IS WHAT THE PARKS AND FUTURE PARKS WILL LOOK LIKE. THEY WILL HAVE LIGHTING AND GOOD

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BASKETBALL COURTS. THEY WILL HAVE STREET PARKING, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING IN THERE WAS DESIGNED AND I AM THINKING THAT, AND PLEASE CONFIRM FOR ME, BUT THAT IS THE LEVEL OF PARK RESOURCE THAT THE CITY'S GOING TO MOVE TOWARD. THAT'S THE STANDARD THAT THE CITY'S GOING TO DEVELOP AGAINST. WHATEVER THE AMENITIES ARE IN THAT PARK IS WHAT THE CITY'S

GOING TO TAKE FEW FORWARD IN FUTURE PARKS. >> THAT IS CORRECT.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I BELIEVE CHRISTIAN OUTLINED WAS IT BEING A COMPLETE PARK WHICH IDENTIFIES

ALL OF THOSE AREAS YOU JUST MENTIONED. >> I AM SO EXCITED FOR THAT ONE.

MLK PARK IS GOING TO BE GREAT. >> SO THAT'S THE STANDARD BASICALLY.

>> THAT IT'S OUR GOAL, YES, MA'AM. OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE EVERY PARK, TO HAVE A COMPLETE PARK THAT HAS ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT YOU MENTIONED, SECURITY, PARKING, LIGHTING, PLAYGROUNDS, YOU NAME IT. YES, MA'AM.

>> THAT WORKS FOR ME. >> I WOULD LIKE TO ECHO WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE SAYS.

I AM VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE DETAIL. ONE THING THAT KIND OF STUCK OUT TO ME WHERE I FELT IT WAS A LITTLE BIT LACKING WAS THERE WAS A LOT OF TALKING ABOUT CONNECTIVITY AND PROXIMITY TO PARKS. THE QUARTER MILE WALK SHED, THAT SORT OF THING. I DON'T FEEL LIKE THIS REALLY ACCOMPLISHED THAT.

IT SAID HERE'S YOUR BIG DEFICIT, BUT, IT JUST KIND OF LEFT IT THERE.

LIKE HERE'S THE DEFICIT. I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT.

I WAS LOOKING AT IT'S -- >> YOU KNOW, I THINK THE ONE THING THAT -- YOU ARE RIGHT, IT DOESN'T DO IT. BUT I THOUGHT THAT IT ADMITTED THAT IT DIDN'T DO IT AND ONE OF THE THINGS THEY SUGGESTED THAT WE DO IS UNDERTAKE THAT TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

WHICH I THOUGHT WAS A GOOD SUGGESTION. I MEAN A SUGGESTION THAT THE COMMUNITY OBVIOUSLY NEEDS TO HEAR. AND I GUESS THEY KIND OF GAVE IT TO US. BUT I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT. THERE'S A MISSING -- THERE'S A MISSING LINK IN THERE. BECAUSE THEY CERTAINLY POINTED OUT THE, YOU KNOW, THAT ONE MATH OF ALL THE PARK DESERTS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DEVELOPED PART OF THE CITY, WHICH, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WAS TO TRY TO ACQUIRE, INTENTIONALLY ACQUIRE PARKLAND WITHIN THOSE AREAS AND STUFF. YOU KNOW. I LIKE THE IDEA THAT IT'S A GOAL. MAKING IT USEFUL AND CONVENIENT TO PEOPLE SO THEY CAN BE USED

LIKE THEY ARE INTENDED TO BE USED. >> RIGHT.

KIND OF LIKE YOU SAID, WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP. I THINK AS WE GO ALONG AND ADOPT THIS THAT SHOULD BE A NEXT GOAL FOR THE COMMISSION. WE HAVE A 10-YEAR PLAN ON HOW TO MAKE ALL OF THESE PARKS GREAT AND WHAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS. NOW HOW DO WE GET THE COMMUNITIES TO THE A? -- TO THE PARK? THERE IS THE PROPOSED TRAIL NETWORK AROUND THE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY, BUT NOTHING THROUGH THE CENTER OF THE CITY WHICH IS WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE LIVE.

I MEAN IF YOU LOOK AT THE CENTER OF TOWN, WHERE THE HEAVILY RESIDENTIAL AREA IS, IS, THERE'S PARKS ALL ON THE OUTSIDE OF IT. IF YOU ARE CLOSE ENOUGH TO ONE OF THEM, GREAT.

BUT IF YOU ARE IN THE INNER CITY, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF THE INNER CITY BUT NOT IN THE TYPICAL SENSE OF THE TERM, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF WAYS TO GET THERE WITHOUT CROSSING THOSE MAJOR THOROUGHFARES AND THAT SORT OF THING. THERE'S NOT GREAT SIDEWALKS IN VICTORIA. SO IN MY MIND, THAT SHOULD BE A NEXT STEP FOR OUR COMMISSION IS OK, HOW DO WE GET, YOU KNOW, A BIKE -- A HIKE AND BIKE LANE DOWN RED RIVER.

I WAS TALKING TO BOB GLENN AT UHV. HE'S REALLY A BIG PROPONENT OF PEDESTRIANIZING U.H.V. AND THAT'S IN THE CENTER OF TOWN. WON WE PIGGY BACK ON SOMETHING

WITH THEM CONNECTING DOWN TOWN AND U.H.V. TO -- TO CONNECT. >> I THINK THE TERM THEY USED

JASON WAS ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION? >> YES, SIR. >> SO THAT'S WALKING, PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY, BIKES AND YOU KNOW, THINGS -- VICTORIA'S A CAR TOWN. IT WAS BUILT AS A CAR TOWN.

THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT. AND SO WE HAVE TO DO A LITTLE DECONSTRUCTING I GUESS TO KIND OF GET -- BUT PURSUING THAT ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN WAS ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND I DON'T REALLY KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN CERTAINLY AS A GROUP PUSH FOR, IS THAT FOR THE CITY TO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE RECOMMEND WITH OUR RECOMMENDATION OF THIS PLAN, IS THAT THE CITY TAKE TAKE TO HEART THE RECOMMENDATION TO GO AHEAD AND CONDUCT AN ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN TO HELP JUMP-START THAT PART OF IT.

BECAUSE -- >> I THINK THE CITY JUST NEEDS MORE EXPOSURE.

I KNOW YOU WERE OUT AT THE DUCK SAFARI THIS WEEKEND. I SAW YOU PADDLING OUT THERE IN THE LAKE. PEOPLE COME OUT TO THE PARKS AND ARE LIKE OH, MY GOSH, THIS IS AMAZING. I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT ETHYL LEE TRACY WAS OUT HERE.

IT'S BEEN THERE FOR SO MANY YEARS AND PEOPLE DON'T KNOW IT EXISTS.

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AFTER THIS, HOW DO WE CONNECT THE COMMUNITIES BACK TO THE PARKS THAT THEY ARE PAYING FOR, THAT ARE THEIR RESOURCES? SO BUT OTHER THAN THAT, YEAH, I THOUGHT EVERYTHING WAS GREAT.

I THOUGHT THERE WAS A LOT OF DETAIL. I GUESS, YEAH, THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION OF LET'S ADOPT THIS AND GO TO THE NEXT STEP OF HOW DO WE GET THE COMMUNITY TO

THE A, TO UTILIZE IT. >> I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD PLAN. I THINK I WAS REALLY EXCITED PARTICULARLY ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK ARE REALLY, REALLY DOABLE WHICH ARE SOME OF THE REGULATORY THINGS WE COULD DO IN THE DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE TO, YOU KNOW, ASSURE THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO REQUIRE DEDICATION OF PARK LAND ON NEW DEVELOPMENT.

I THOUGHT THOSE WERE WELL THOUGHT OUT AND IF WE DO THAT, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S CLEAR, CLEAR FROM THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS THERE'S A RIGHT WAY TO DO IT AND A NOT SO RIGHT WAY TO DO IT.

YOU END UP WITH A TOWN WITH A WHOLE BUNCH OF POCKET PARKS NONE OF WHICH HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH EACH OTHER. THAT COMPANY'S I WILL HAPPEN IF YOU AREN'T CAREFUL ABOUT HOW YOU APPROACH IT. THAT PROCESS, I MEAN THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO, I THINK, AND WE CAN CERTAINLY HAVE AN IMPACT ON IT AS A COMMISSION, I THINK, WOULD BE GOOD, A GREAT WAY TO INCREASE THAT ACCESSIBILITY. I THINK IF I HAD A CRITICISM OF THE PLAN, IT WAS KIND OF, BECAUSE OF CIRCUMSTANCES, AND I KNOW THEY ADDRESSED IT TO SOME DEGREE, THEY TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ABOUT FLOOD CONTROL AND FLOOD STUFF.

YOU KNOW, HAVING HAD THAT FLOOD HIT WHEN IT HIT, AND BE AS SEVERE AS IT WAS, IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE WE HAVE HAD ONE THAT BAD. YOU TEND TO FORGET OVER THE COURSE OF A COUPLE OF YEARS JUST HOW DESTRUCTIVE THAT IS. AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER, YOU KNOW, GOING THROUGH IT LOOKING AT PARTICULARLY THEIR SUGGESTIONS FOR HOW THE DEPARTMENT OUGHT TO ORGANIZE AND HANDLE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF ITS DUTIES, YOU KNOW, THE RECOVERY FROM THAT IS, WE NEED TO BE -- I WAS OUT RIDING THROUGH THERE THE OTHER DAY, LOOKING AROUND.

THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE BECAUSE OF THAT AND IT WILL TAKE SEVERAL MONTHS TO DRY OUT TO DO THE WORK. THAT HAPPENS, IT HASN'T HAPPENED IN A WHILE, IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE BUT OVER THE COURSE OF THE TIME I'VE LIVED HERE IT'S HAPPENED A LOT.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SEEN MORE ATTENTION PAID TO THAT BUT I THINK WE WERE HIT WITH SOMETHING AT THE LAST MINUTE THAT BROUGHT IT TOP OF MIND. THERE IS STUFF IN THERE ABOUT PAYING ATTENTION TO FLOOD CONTROL STUFF. I NOTICE WE HAVE ANOTHER BIG

PLACE WHERE THE, OVER THERE ACROSS FROM THE. >> JOHN F. LEE DRIVE.

>> EROSION AREA. >> YEAH. BIG WASHOUT.

>> BY THE LION'S CLUB PAVILION. >> YEAH. RIGHT THERE.

SO, ANYWAY, THINK IT WAS A GOOD PRODUCT AND I AM CERTAINLY PREPARED TO SUPPORT IT.

>> AWESOME. I CAN JUST TELL YOU THAT IT WAS FUN WORKING WITH HAFF.

THEY WERE A GREAT CONSULTING FIRM TO WORK WITH AND YEAH, EVERYBODY ON THAT TEAM IS VERY, VERY FUN, RIGHT, KIMBERLY? SO, IT WAS A PLEASURE WORKING WITH HAFF.

THEY WERE OBVIOUSLY PUT TOGETHER A PRETTY GOOD PRODUCT. THOUGHT IT WAS AN EXCELLENT PRODUCT HONESTLY. AND, YEAH. ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO

ANSWER. >> ANYBODY LIKE TO CALL FOR A QUESTION?

OR A VOTE? >> A MOTION TO CALL THE QUESTION AND WE WILL VOTE --

>> DO I MOVE THAT WE ADOPT? >> WE ALREADY HAVE THE MOTION. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF CALLING

FOR THE VOTE. >> I MOVE TO CALL FOR THE VOTE. >> OK.

ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR OF ADOPTING OF THE

PLAN AND SENDING IT ON TO THE CITY COUNCIL, SAY AYE. >> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? OK. VERY GOOD.

>> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR SUPPORT AND I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR TIME, TOO. I KNOW IT WASN'T -- I KNOW IT WASN'T JUST A FIVE-MINUTE READ.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, JASON. THE DEPARTMENT DID A GREAT JOB, TOO. EVERYBODY HANG ONTO YOUR COPY OF THE PLAN.

BECAUSE WE WILL BE USING THEM. >> YES. >> YOU ARE RIGHT.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD KEEP VISITING WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S SO MUCH OF IT IN HERE, CONTINUE

THAT CONVERSATION AMONG THE COMMISSION. >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> THERE COULD BE SOMETHING -- SOMETHING CREATIVE, SOMETHING -- SOMETHING OUT THERE THAT SOMEBODY KNOWS AND THAT -- ABOUT THAT FLOOD ISSUE. YOU KNOW.

THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING WHETHER IT TAKES US SIX MONTHS OR A YEAR, SOMETHING WE CAN REVISIT

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TO FIGURE THAT OUT. >> YEAH, BOY, THE TIMING WAS JUST BAD, I GUESS.

>> I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. YOU TALKED ABOUT GOING INTO THE FUTURE TO REMEMBER WHEN WE ARE ACTUALLY LOOKING AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS WILL HAPPEN WHEN IT ACTUALLY GOES OUT TO BUILDING THE STRUCTURES. BUT JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE A LONG-TERM VIEW OF THE STRUCTURES THAT WE BUILD IN THE PARK. LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF DOWN THE ROAD WE DO LOOK AT PUTTING AN AMPHITHEATER IN GROVER'S BEND, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, ANYTHING IN THE PARK HAS TO BE, AND I KNOW YOU MENTIONED DESIGNED TO BE ABLE TO WITHSTAND A SUBSTANTIAL LEVEL OF FLOODING. WE KNOW THAT ANY TIME IT GETS TO 30 FEET, THAT WHOLE AREA IS PRETTY MUCH DONE FOR. SO MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DO IT THE RIGHT WAY AND DON'T

BUILD SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO GET WASHED AWAY. >> RIGHT.

ABSOLUTELY. OK. ALL RIGHT.

NUMBER TWO ON THE AGENDA IS DISCUSSION OF THE DOG PARK. GAIL REMINDED ME THAT THIS HAS

[2. Discuss the dog park]

BEEN SOMETHING WE HAVE DISCUSSED A LOT OVER MANY YEARS, INCLUDING THAT WAS THE BEGINNING OF THE PARKS COALITION, THE VICTORIA PARKS COALITION WAS TO CONSIDER TAKING ON THE DOG PARK.

>> 2016 OR MORE. YEAH. >> WELL, I JUST REALLY WANTED TO GIVE YOU ALL A SIMPLE REMINDER OF JUST A REFRESHER, IF IF YOU WILL, THAT WE DID HAVE IZZY DRAIN FROM THE GIRL SCOUTS. SHE WAS INTERESTED IN BUILDING A DOG PARK.

THAT WAS HER GIRL SCOUT PROJECT. AFTER WE TALKED WITH HER, WE FELT IT WAS A LITTLE MORE FEASIBLE FOR HER TO GO OUT FOR SPONSORSHIPS FOR THE AMENITIES AND NOT NECESSARILY THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE DOG PARK ITSELF. BECAUSE THAT MAY TAKE A WHILE.

BUT NONETHELESS, I WANTED TO LET YOU NO H -- LET YOU KNOW WE WERN CONTACT WITH HER A FEW MONTHS AGO, SHE HAS SET UP AN ACCOUNT AND WILL BE PUSHING FOR SPONSORSHIP SHORTLY.

ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU JUST APPROVED, THANK YOU, THE PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN, BUT ONE OF THOSE IN THE MASTER PLAN IN THE CONCEPTUAL FOR RIVERSIDE PARK, THERE'S A LOCATION FOR THE DOG PARK. ONE WAS OUTLINED IN THERE AND ANOTHER MENTIONED ON 59 OVER THERE -- OR THE HUGHES TO BE HIGHWAY. I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU A SNAPSHOT ON THE SCREEN ITSELF. YOU CAN SEE THE PUMP HOUSE AT THE BOTTOM.

JUST NORTH OF THE PUMP HOUSE, THERE'S THE DITCH AND IT'S KIND OF A V, I WILL -- IT'S RIGHT HERE. SO THAT WAS THE AREA THEY HAD IDENTIFIED AS THE DOG PARK.

I JUST WANTED TO JUST BRING THIS BACK AROUND TO THE COMMISSION AND SAY THAT THAT IS ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT TO BE ABLE TO GET, TO START MOVING ON.

SHORTLY. AND, WHAT WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING IS WORKING WITH A CONSULTANT TO LOOK AT SOME DESIGN COSTS AND SOME CONSTRUCTION COSTS TO GET UPDATED CONSTRUCTION COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT. SOME OF THE OLD CONSTRUCTION COSTS THAT WE HAD WERE FROM 2015 AND QUITE FRANKLY, PRICES HAVE CHANGED SINCE THEN.

SO, WE ARE TRYING TO GET TO ALL OF THAT UPDATED. I WILL HAVE A BETTER TIMELINE AND A BETTER DESIGN/COST ESTIMATE FOR THE NEXT MEETING JUST TO GIVE YOU KIND OF AN IDEA OF WHAT THIS CONSTRUCTION COULD LOOK LIKE AS FAR AS COST IS CONCERNED AND AS FAR AS WHAT THE TIME FRAME WOULD BE SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP THAT CONVERSATION TO YOU AND LET YOU KNOW IT'S IDENTIFIED WITHIN THAT PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN.

WE DO HAVE SUPPORT FROM OUTSIDE ORGANIZATIONS AS WELL AS THE CITY.

SO, YES, SIR. >> IS THAT THE LAND THAT WAS CURRENTLY BEING LEASED TO

SOMEBODY? >> NO, SIR. >> OK.

>> NO, SIR. THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY IS OVER HERE.

>> SO THAT'S THE LAND THAT'S BEING LEASED OUT. >> YEAH.

I BELIEVE IT'S ONLY FOR A TWO-YEAR, NOT A FIVE-YEAR. >> THAT'S TWO POTENTIAL DOG PARKS. THE ONE FOR IZZY HAS SPACE. WAITING FOR FUNDING.

AND THEN ANOTHER ONE, THIS ONE RIGHT HERE, SOMETHING THAT WE ARE DOING OURSELVES, IS THAT --

>> WELL, NO, THE -- WHAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT TO COMBINE A PROJECT WITH IZZY WITH THE GIRL SCOUTS WOULD BE THIS LOCATION RIGHT HERE. THE OTHER LOCATION, THAT SECONDARY LOCATION THAT THE MASTER PLAN SPELLS OUT IS OVER THERE OFF OF THE HOUSTON HIGHWAY. WHICH WOULD, I THINK IN THAT ONE IT ALSO TALKED ABOUT OPENING UP A TRAIL SYSTEM TO THE LONE TREE CREEK PARK AND HAVING A TRAIL HEAD OFF OF 59 WITH THE DOG PARK

THERE AT THAT LOCATION. >> BUT IDEALLY, THIS ONE WILL PROBABLY BE THE FIRST ONE THAT

COULD POTENTIALLY HAPPEN. >> YES, SIR. >> OK.

WELL I SAY WE GET ALL BEHIND HER EVERY WAY WE CAN. >> OK.

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OK. >> SOMETHING ELSE IN REGARD TO THE DOG PARK BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON IT SINCE 2015. ONE THING THAT THE COMMISSIONERS WANTED BACK THEN, THAT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO ADD INTO THE PLANS BECAUSE OF COST, WAS A WATER FEATURE.

BEING THAT WE ARE IN TEXAS, I MEAN IT'S SO HOT FOR THE DOGS. A WATER FEATURE IS I THINK SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED AS A FEATURE. AND YOU ARE RIGHT THERE BY A DITCH SO MAYBE YOU GOT SOME WATER YOU CAN PUMP IN THERE OR SOMETHING.

>> IS THERE ANYWAY THAT COALITION, IZZY AND MAYBE PARKS AND REC, WE CAN TRY TO HAVE A FUND-RAISING EVENT THAT COULD BE MAYBE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN BE PART OF AS A COMMISSION ALSO.

I THINK MAYBE WE SHOULD AT LEAST TRY -- >> WELL THE CITY'S GOING TO PAY

FOR THE DOG PARK SO -- >> OK. SO, SHE'S JUST DOING THE FUNDING

FOR THE AMENITIES. >> YES, SIR. >> OK.

I GET IT NOW. >> AND SHE, I THINK ONE OF HER IDEAS TO START RAISING SOME FUNDING FOR THAT WAS TO CREATE PAVERS. RIGHT? WAS IT PAVERS THAT SHE WAS WANTING TO SELL, LIKE MEMORIAL PAVERS FOR I GUESS LOST DOGS.

YEAH. THAT HAVE CROSSED THE RAINBOW BRIDGE.

AND SO SHE WANTED TO HAVE US SOME SPONSORSHIPS THROUGH THAT. SO SHE IS WORKING ON A PROCESS,

IF YOU WILL, FOR SPONSORSHIPS IN THAT REGARD. >> RIGHT.

>> BUT AGAIN, I JUST MERELY WANTED TO BRING THIS BACK UP AS, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT WE JUST APPROVED THE PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN. IT DID IDENTIFY A LOCATION AND THAT WE WERE WORKING WITH IZZY WITH THE GIRL SCOUTS TO BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH SOME FUNDING AND YOU KNOW CONSTRUCTION OF THE DOG PARK. THIS IS THE LOCATION THAT I HAD IDENTIFIED IN THE MASTER PLAN. JUST SIMPLY LETTING YOU KNOW THAT I WILL HAVE MORE

INFORMATION FOR YOU NEXT MONTH. >> THANK YOU. >> YES, SIR.

>> THANKS, JASON. >> YES, SIR. >> NEXT IS DISCUSS THE NATIONAL

[3. Discuss the National Fitness Campaign]

FITNESS CAMPAIGN. I THINK THERE'S A HAND JUT ON THIS THAT WE HAVE HERE.

>> WHAT I HANDED YOU WAS A 2021 SUMMARY OR REPORT FROM THE NATIONAL FITNESS CAMPAIGN.

KIMBERLY AND I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THEM ABOUT A YEAR AGO.

AND, THEY, AT THAT TIME, WERE WORKING WITH THE TEXAS RECREATION AND PARK SOCIETY TO PRODUCE A GRANT IN ORDER TO ALLOW COMMUNITIES ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO GET A FITNESS COURT. THERE IS SOME GENERAL INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROGRAM COST. AGAIN, THIS WAS LAST YEAR. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING UPDATED FROM THEM FOR THIS YEAR. BASICALLY, WHAT THIS IS, IS A -- IT'S A PROGRAM AND AN ORGANIZATION THAT WANTS TO PUT THESE FITNESS COURTS IN COMMUNITIES.

RIGHT? AND IT'S REALLY JUST TO GET PEOPLE ACTIVE AND TO GET PEOPLE IN SHAPE. AND SO THESE FITNESS COURTS, WHAT THEY DO IS THEY ASK FOR THE CITY OR AN ORGANIZATION TO GO OUT AND SEEK SPONSORSHIPS AND THEN THEY WILL MATCH A CERTAIN AMOUNT, WITH THE TRAPS GRANT THERE WAS SOME MONEY THAT TEXAS RECREATION AND PARKS SOCIETY WOULD MATCH AS WELL. SO THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THESE NUMBERS ARE COMING FROM.

OF BUT ULTIMATELY THE ENTIRE PROGRAM COSTS, I MEAN YOU CAN SEE IT RIGHT THERE, WAS ABOUT $105,000, THE NFC PROGRAM FUNDED $130,000. IN TOTALITY, IT'S A $200,000 -- OVERALL TOTAL FUNDING WAS NEEDED WAS $105,000 TO $165,000. OTHER CITIES AROUND THE STATE, AROUND THE COUNTRY, HAVE BROUGHT IN THESE FITNESS COURTS. ONE WAS IN EDINBURGH.

THERE WAS A FEW THROUGHOUT, SPREAD THROUGHOUT TEXAS. NONETHELESS, I WANTED TO BRING THESE UP TO YOU, LET YOU, PROVIDE YOU WITH THE INFORMATION THAT WE DID HAVE.

I HAVE REACHED OUT TO SOME OTHER CITIES JUST WAITING ON A WORD BACK FROM THEM ABOUT HOW IT WENT WITH NATIONAL FITNESS CAMPAIGN. BUT YEAH, SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, THIS DOESN'T NECESSARILY GET PUT INTO OUR PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN ANYWHERE BUT IF THERE IS AN AREA TO IDENTIFY THAT WE WANT TO PLACE ONE OF THESE, WE CAN IDENTIFY AND START SPENDING AND

WORKING ON SPONSORSHIPS. >> WHAT IS YOUR THOUGHT ABOUT WHERE IT SHOULD BE PUT?

>> YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF A RANDOM ONE, I THOUGHT LONE CONTEMPORARY CREEK WOULD BE A REALLY COOL PLACE. I MOON WE ARE LOOKING AT WANTING TO EXPAND IT THROUGH THE TRAIL SYSTEM. IT'S OFF OF AIRLINE, RIGHT NEXT TO A HIGH SCHOOL.

YOU HAVE A SPLASH PAD OUT THERE. >> WALKING TRAILS RIGHT THERE, TOO.

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>> IT'S AN AREA THAT WE WANT TO INCREASE THE USAGE ON. AND TO ME IT MAKES SENSE BECAUSE YOU ARE RIGHT THERE NEXT TO A TRAIL. I MEAN, SYSTEM.

BUT THAT'S JUST ME. >> YOU HAVE A LOT OF ROOM. >> AND I DIDN'T TALK WITH STAFF

ABOUT THAT, EITHER. THAT WAS LITERALLY JUST ME. >> I LIKE THAT IDEA, TOO.

BECAUSE SAY IF A FAMILY'S THERE, MAYBE THE WIFE OR THE HUSBAND OR WHOEVER MIGHT WANT TO STAY

WORKING OUT WHILE THE OTHER PEOPLE DOING THE TRAIL. >> MM-HMM.

>> THE SPLASH PAD. MM-HMM. >> TRUE THAT.

>> BUT AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE, I MEAN WE DON'T HAVE TO DECIDE ON WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO DO THIS GO-AROUND. I BELIEVE THERE IS INFORMATION PROVIDED TO YOU ALL MAYBE A MONTH OR TWO AGO. BUT I WANTED TO GIVE YOU EVERYTHING THAT WE HAD AND HAVE ANOTHER CONVERSATION IF WANTED THERE WERE SEVERAL OF THESE IN TEXAS.

THERE WAS ONE OUT IN WEST TEXAS I THINK YOU LOOKED AT. >> MM-HMM.

YEAH THE. >> DALLAS, TOO. >> YEAH.

FRISCO WAS ONE, ONE OVER AT BAYLOR. IT WASN'T THE CITY OF WACO BUT

IT WAS BAYLOR UNIVERSITY. >> EDINBURGH DID ONE. THE CITY OF EDINBURGH.

ANOTHER IN THE HOUSTON AREA. I CAN'T REMEMBER -- IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN PEARLAND.

THERE'S A HANDFUL OF THEM HERE IN THE. >> KENNY HAD ONE.

>> MCKENNY, YES, SIR. SO AGAIN, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT PURSUING.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN SAY HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE HAVE OTHER PROJECTS RIGHT NOW, LET'S NOT WORRY ABOUT THIS. LET'S LOOK AT SOMETHING ELSE. I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT BACK

UP FOR DISCUSSION. >> THE QUESTIONS I GUESS THAT I WOULD HAVE ABOUT IT IS JUST HOW DID THEY DO IT? ORGANIZATIONALLY, WHO DID IT, WHO DID THE, YOU KNOW, DID THEY HAVE A PUBLIC GROUP CREATED TO DO THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT? OR WAS IT SOME OTHER INCUMBENT GROUP THAT ALREADY EXISTED AND PICKED IT UP AND TOOK IT, WHAT ROLE DID THE CITIES HAVE? IN BAYLOR'S CASE, I AM SURE THE UNIVERSITY DID IT. MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE UNIVERSITY OF HOUSTON MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT. I DON'T KNOW.

>> I KNOW THERE'S ONE IN SAN ANTONIO, SPONSORED BY SOME OF THE HOSPITALS, IN THE MEDICAL CENTER AREA. SOME OF THE HOSPITALS PICKED IT UP.

AS PART OF A WALKING TRAIL IN THE MED CENTER. THAT'S ANOTHER THING TO THINK ABOUT WITH A PARTNERSHIP WITH, YOU KNOW, CITIZENS AS PART OF THE COUNTY OR DTAR OR UHV.

A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP COULD BE GOOD THERE. >> I THINK IT'S A GREAT FORUM TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION. I MEAN, THIS IS A GREAT PLACE TO -- I MEAN EVERYBODY HERE KNOWS A LOT OF FOLKS. SO I THINK LIKE YOU JUST MENTIONED, THE HOSPITALS OR UNIVERSITIES OR WHOEVER, I MOON WE CAN DEFINITELY REACH OUT TO A MULTITUDE OF ORGANIZATIONS OR

BUSINESSES AND SEEK SPONSORSHIPS. >> OK.

>> I HAVE A FRIEND, SHE'S A TEACHER AND SHE'S MARRIED TO A FIREMAN.

AND THEY UTILIZE THAT SPLASH PAD REGULARLY AND WE WENT OVER THERE ONE DAY LAST YEAR AND HUNG OUT THERE FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS AND, WHICH IS A LOT LONGER THAN WE NORMALLY SPEND AT A SPLASH PAD.

AND, JUST KIND OF TALKED TO THE PEOPLE THAT WERE THERE. AND THEY SAID THAT THERE'S JUST NOTHING FOR THE ADULTS TO DO. IT'S BORING. I MEAN AND THEN PEOPLE JUMP ON THE TRAIL AND FOR ME, WHEN I USE THE TRAIL, I HAVE ALWAYS GONE FOR A BIKE RIDE, THEN I TAKE MY KIDS TO THE SPLASH PAD AFTERWARDS AND THEY PLAY ON THE SPLASH PAD BUT THEN I'M JUST SITTING THERE. WELL, I PLAY BUT -- OK. MOST PEOPLE JUST SIT THERE.

AND SO THERE'S NOTHING REALLY FOR THE ADULTS TO DO. THIS GIVES THEM SOMETHING TO DO.

SO I REALLY LIKE THAT LOCATION. BECAUSE IT WAS SOMETHING THAT MY FRIEND SAID THAT WE NEEDED AND SHE SENT ME ALL THESE PICTURES AND, OF ONE THAT SHE SAW WHEN SHE WENT OUT OF TOWN.

SHE WAS LIKE WE NEED THIS HERE. WE DON'T HAVE THIS. LOOKING AT THE MASTER PLAN, IT SAYS 36% OF ADULTS IN VICTORIA ARE OBESE. SO 36%, YOU KNOW, COULD USE THIS ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, WORKOUT OPPORTUNITY. I MEAN NOT EVERYBODY CAN AFFORD A GYM MEMBERSHIP. BUT IF YOU HAVE THESE FACILITIES, I DO BELIEVE THEY WILL GET UTILIZED. I JUST THINK THAT WE HAVE BARS IN RIVERSIDE, SOME PULL-UP BARS, A LITTLE BIT OF WORKOUT EQUIPMENT. WE NEED SOMETHING LIKE THIS SO PEOPLE CAN BE IN BETTER SHAPE AND NOT COST THEM A FORTUNE. I LOVE IT.

>> OK. >> I DO, AS WELL. I WAS GOING TO SAY I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MORE I COULD LEARN ABOUT IT TO LIKE IT MORE. I LIKE IT A LOT.

I LIKE THE IDEA AND THE CONCEPT. >> MAYBE NEED A COUPLE OF THEM. >> BEGINNING OF EVERY TRAIL.

YEAH. >> ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE MASTER PLAN WE JUST ADOPTED WAS THAT THE CITY, OR THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WOULD COME UP WITH REGULATORY ORDINANCES WITH REGARDS TO NEW DEVELOPMENT. CORRECT? SO, THIS, TO ME, LOOKS LIKE A NEW FUN WAY TO INCORPORATE FITNESS INTO A NEW DEVELOPMENT. WHETHER IT BE RESIDENTIAL,

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COMMERCIAL, MEDICAL. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT ON THE PLAN OF THINGS THE CITY WOULD GO AND ASK FOR. I MEAN I KNOW THAT THE CITY HAS WORK TO DO TO DEVELOP THAT ORDINANCE, BUT DEFINITELY, AS THIS CITY GROWS, WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND TAX BASE, I MEAN THE CITY'S GOING TO COME UP WITH ORDINANCES, WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO ASK FOR AS DEVELOPERS COME TO

TOWN. >> RIGHT. >> AND THAT'S ONE WAY TO GET IT FUNDED AND SPACE ALLOCATED FOR IT AS PART OF THE OVERALL CONCEPT WITH DEVELOPMENTAL

PLANNING. >> I LIKE THAT IDEA. >> FOR EXAMPLE, I DON'TEN WHERE WE ARE, BUT I KNOW THE NEW -- THE AREA NEXT TO HOME DEPOT OFF OF THE LOOP, THEY ARE MOVING THE OFF RAMP, THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE I HEARD THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER SPEAK SOME MONTHS AGO ABOUT THE NEW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THERE AND ALL THE SHOPS THEY ARE BRINGING IN.

AGAIN, THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY. YOU HAVE PEOPLE COMING TO A LOCATION, ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO GET, MINE TO DO WHAT CITIES DO AND THAT'S DO LAND PLANNING WITH TRAILS AND OUTDOCTOR SPACES. SO -- -- OUTDOOR SPACES. SO, AGAIN, GO DEVELOP SOME

ORDINANCES AND WE WILL GO GET IT. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> PLEASE. >> SO IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSION IS INTERESTED IN PURSUING OR AT LEAST WOULD LIKE US TO CONTINUE TO PURSUE.

CORRECT? >> I SURE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, YEAH.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT HOW IT'S BEING DONE IN SOME OF THESE OTHER COMMUNITIES SO WE

CAN TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT IT. >> OK. WHAT WE WILL DO IS, UM, AT THE NEXT MEETING, WE CAN PROVIDE AN UPDATE FROM SOME OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN RESPONSES FROM AND WE CAN ALSO DO A LITTLE BIT OF DIGGING AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY ORDINANCES THAT MAYBE AROUND TEXAS THAT SPEAK TO SOMETHING ALONG THESE LINES.

>> AND THEN GIVE US TIME TO LOOK INTO IT OURSELVES SO WE CAN BRING SOME FEEDBACK TO THE NEXT

MEETING. >> OK. >> SO THIS IS COOL STUFF.

I WOULD LIKE IT LOOK MORE INTO IT. >> OK.

PERFECT. AND WE WILL ALSO CHECK WITH, WE WILL ALSO CHECK WITH TRAPS, TOO, AND SEE IF THEY HAVE THEIR GRANT FUNDING AGAINST FOR THIS YEAR AND SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

OK. PERFECT. APPRECIATE T THANK Y'ALL.

>> OK. WELL JASON, YOU HAVE THE -- WELL MAYBE -- PARKS AND RECREATION

[4. Parks and recreation Department Updates:]

DEPARTMENT UPDATE. KIMBERLY OR JASON, I'M NOT SURE WHO'S -- MAYBE BOTH OF YOU?

>> SURE. WHY NOT. SO WE WILL ROLL INTO PARKS AND I'LL PASS IT TO KIMBERLY FOR RECREATION. SO PARKS IS, WELL PARKS HAS BEEN UNDER WATER. SO -- IT'S BEEN AN INTERESTING OCTOBER.

BUT WE ARE STARTING TO SECURE CONTRACTORS FOR THE FACILITY UPDATES OVER AT SOME OF THE FACILITIES THAT WE HAVE FOR THE TAFT WINTER GAMES. THAT'S A PROJECT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON AND ARE CONTINUING TO WORK ON. WE DID START COLLECTING DATA ASSOCIATED WITH THE STAFF HOURS. I APOLOGIZE I DIDN'T INCLUDE THAT EXCEL SPREAD SHEET BUT I WILL SEND THAT OUT TO YOU ALL SO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO CAPTURE WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENT. IT'S A LOT OF GREAT DATA WE ARE GOING TO GET AND BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY WHERE SOME OF OUR GAPS ARE. SO THAT'S GOING TO HELP US OUT.

WE ARE ALSO CONTINUING TO WORK ON VARIOUS PROJECTS. PLEASE STOP ME AND TELL ME YOU WANT AN UPDATE AS I GO THROUGH THEM. WE HAVE DUCK POND, RIVERSIDE SPLASH PAD, PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN, THE LIGHTING PROJECT THAT IS TAKING PLACE AND WE WILL ADD THE DOG PARK TO THIS, AS WELL. SO -- ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THOSE PROJECTS? OK. THE COMMUNITY CENTER SPLASH PAD, WE DID, DID WANT TO LET YOU KNOW, I CAN'T REMEMBER IF I MENTIONED THIS TO YOU LAST MONTH OR NOT. BUT WE DID RECEIVE THE QUOTES TO GET THAT FIXED.

IT WAS ROUGHLY $20,000 FOR REPAIR POS. A LOT OF IT -- FOR REPAIRS.

A LOT OF IT HAD TO DEAL WITH, WAS IT COLLAPSED LINES? I CAN'T REMEMBER.

A COLLAPSED LINE OR LINE LEAK THAT ENDED UP CREATING ISSUES AND WE ENDED UP HAVING THAT SEPARATION IN THE CONCRETE. THUS THE ISSUE THAT WE HAD ON THE SURFACE.

THAT QUOTE IS TO FIX EVERYTHING FROM TOP TO BOTTOM. SO -- AND THEN ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO MENTION TO YOU WAS THAT, AT THE LAST -- BASICALLY IN OCTOBER, WE WENT TO A LOT OF CONFERENCES AND GOT EVERYTHING KNOCKED OUT AND WE ARE DONE FOR THE YEAR.

RIGHT? I'M DONE. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT KIMBERLY, BUT I'M WIPED OUT. SO WE ATTENDED THE TEXAS TREE CONFERENCE. WE WERE ABLE TO ATTEND THE NATIONAL RECREATION AND PARKS SOCIETY, PARKS ASSOCIATION'S ANNUAL CONFERENCE.

WE WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO ATTEND THE SPORTS RELATIONSHIP CONFERENCE.

IS IT A REALLY UNIQUE CONFERENCE. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT TO CALL

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IT. IT'S REALLY NOT EVEN A CONFERENCE BUT MORE SPEED DATING. I KNOW. RIGHT? IT'S MORE SPEED DATING WITH CITIES OR FACILITY HOLDERS, WITH TOURNAMENT DIRECTORS.

AND, THE TOURNAMENT DIRECTORS ARE ON A NATIONAL LEVEL. AND AN INTERNATIONAL LEVEL.

AND SO, WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO IS CONNECT WITH ABOUT 30 TO 40 DIFFERENT TOURNAMENT DIRECTORS THAT ARE LOOKING TO BRING STUFF TO COMMUNITIES. SO WE HAVE MAYBE THREE OR FOUR SOLID LEADS AND WE ARE CONTINUING TO WORK ON THOSE AS WE SPEAK.

SO, HOPEFULLY HERE IN THE NEAR FUTURE, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE NEW EVENTS WITH REGARDS TO SPORTS TOURISM COMING TO VICTORIA. SO WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

AND THEN, I JUST CAME BACK FROM THIS ONE, THAT'S WHY I AM WIPED OUT, THE TEXAS FOREST, I WITH AS ASKED TO ATTEND THE TEXAS FOREST LEADERSHIP ACADEMY IN COLLEGE STATION.

SO -- YEAH. IT'S BEEN A REALLY BUSY OCTOBER IN BETWEEN THAT AND THE FLOODS.

THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH. BEFORE WE GET TO KIMBERLY, I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU A QUICK PICTURE. THIS TO THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE IS THE GOLF COURSE. IF YOU REALLY DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU ARE AT, BECAUSE I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE I'M AT LOOKING AT THIS PICTURE, BUT TO THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE OF THE PICTURE IS THE DUCK POND. IF YOU LOOK KIND OF BEYOND THOSE TWO TREES JUST TO THE RIGHT, IF YOU GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER PAST, SQUINT HARD, YOU CAN SEE THE CLUBHOUSE.

SO, ALL OF THE CLUBHOUSE WAS NOT AFFECTED BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE COURSE WAS.

I DO HAVE A COUPLE OTHER PICTURES HERE FOR YOU. THAT TOP LEFT PICTURE WAS TAKEN ON THE 20TH. SO THE WATER WAS ALREADY STARTING TO RECEDE.

AND THAT IS BEHIND THE PUMP HOUSE. I BELIEVE THE REST OF THE PICTURES WERE ON THE 19TH. JUST, WELL NO, IT HAD TO HAVE BEEN ON THE 20TH, AS WELL.

SO THE TOP RIGHT PICTURE IS AT THE INTERSECTION OF JOHN F. LEE AND WAS THAT MCWRIGHT? YEAH. BECAUSE THE ZOO'S -- THERE'S A WHITE TRUCK AND THAT'S WHERE THE ZOO IS AT. ON THE BOTTOM LEFT HAND PICTURE, YOU CAN SEE, THAT'S GOING TO BE THE GROVERS BEND AREA. STILL UNDERNEATH WATER. THAT WAS EVEN A COUPLE OF DAYS LATER. ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT-HAND PICTURE, YOU CAN SEE THAT'S FOXES BEND. YOU CAN TELL WHERE THE WATER LINE WAS AT.

THAT WAS -- I TOOK THAT IN THE MORNING TIME. SO, AS THE WATER RECEDED OVERNIGHT, YOU CAN SEE WHERE IT WAS LEFT. AND OBVIOUSLY ALL OF THE MUD AND SILT THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH IS IN THAT PICTURE ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT, AS WELL.

THEN OUR SOCCER FIELDS ARE IN THE MIDDLE PICTURE. THAT WAS ACTUALLY THE 20TH, AS WELL. THEY DID REALLY WELL, HONESTLY. THE TURF IS -- YOU CAN'T EVEN TELL THAT WE HAD A FLOOD OUT THERE. I WAS TALKING WITH THE PRESIDENT OF EYSO THIS PAST WEEKEND. GIVING KUDOS TO STAFF. WE WOULD HAVE NEVER KNOWN THIS

WAS UNDER WATER IF WE COULDN'T HAVE ACCESSED IT. >> YOU DON'T HAVE TO WATER IT

FOR AT LEAST A MONTH. >> YEAH. WE ARE GOOD NOW UNTIL NEXT

SUMMER. >> DO YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATE, A ROUGH ESTIMATE OF DAMAGE

COSTWISE TO RIVERSIDE FROM THE FLOOD? >> NO, I DON'T.

MOST OF IT IS REALLY A LOT OF IT WILL BE EROSION. AND TREE DAMAGE.

WE DIDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF FACILITY DAMAGE. A LOT OF THE DAMAGE WAS JUST TREES FALLING OVER AND LOOSE DEBRIS WITHIN THE PARK. SO ALL OF THE HOURS AND COSTS WERE ASSOCIATED WITH MAINTENANCE HOURS. OTHER THAN THE EROSION.

AND THAT'S -- THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO, YEAH, WE NEED TO FIND SOME HELP THERE.

AND A COST. BUT I'M NOT SURE -- I DON'T HAVE ANY NUMBERS FOR YOU FOR THE FACILITIES. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON PARKS?

OK. I'LL GO INTO RECREATION. >> AND PART OF WITH THE MAINTENANCE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE FLOODING, WHEN JASON SENDS OUT THE SPREADSHEET THAT WE HAVE BEEN COLLECTING FOR DATA, WE DO HAVE THAT LIKE THAT FLOODING COMPONENT ON THERE.

SO WE CAN SEE HOW MANY STAFF HOURS WE HAVE SPENT ON THAT. BUT, YEAH, LUCKILY THERE WASN'T REALLY ANY FACILITY DAMAGE. JUST THE BANKS, THE EROSION. ALL RIGHT.

RECREATION. SO -- >> AND SOME OF THIS IS FROM LAST MONTH, TOO. BECAUSE WE WEREN'T ABLE TO PRESENT.

>> OK. THAT'S RIGHT. SO -- JUST A QUICK UPDATE OF A COUPLE OF THE PROGRAMS AND EVENTS THAT WE FINISHED OFF LAST MONTH WITH, GETTING INTO THIS MONTH. AND NEXT MONTH. SO, WE DID HAVE THE HALLOWEEN HAUNTED CINEMA WITH A TRUNK OR TREAT AND THEN A DOUBLE FEATURE MOVIE AND THAT WAS REALLY SUCCESSFUL. WE HAD OVER160 CARS OUT FOR THAT AND THEN FOR THE FIRST MOVIE, WE WATCHED COCO AND THEN JEEPERS CREEPERS FOR THE ADULTS AND SOME OF THE TEENAGERS AND COLLEGE KIDS. WE HAD OVER 80 CARS OUT FOR THAT.

THAT WAS AWESOME. WE DID IT AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND THAT WAS A LOT OF

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FUN. WE ALSO HAD THE POP-UP PARK OUT ON SATURDAY.

THE OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT CELEBRATED THEIR 150TH ANNIVERSARY.

SO WE WENT OUT AND SUPPORTED THEM AND WE HAD OUR POP-UP PARK OUT THERE.

ALSO KIND OF SHOWING US PARKS. AND THEN ON THE EVENING, WE HAD, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THE RIVERSIDE CAMP OUT AND MOVIE NIGHT BUT ALL THE GROUND WAS STILL SATURATED FROM THE FLOOD AND THEN THE RAIN THAT WE HAD WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY. SO WE HAD TO CANCEL THE CAMP OUT PORTION BUT WE STILL HELD WITH THE MOVIE PORTION. SO WE WATCHED SHREK AND THAT WAS OVER AT RIVERSIDE STADIUM, WHICH WAS ALSO A LOT OF FUN. COMING UP THIS MONTH, WE DO HAVE DRIVE-IN BINGO ON TUESDAY, THE 23RD AT 6:30 RIGHT BEFORE THANKSGIVING.

SO HOPEFULLY A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE BACK IN TOWN TO CELEBRATE WITH THEIR FAMILIES, COLLEGE KIDS BACK HOME, AND WE WILL HAVE A GREAT TURNOUT FOR THAT. WE HAVE CHRISTMAS ON THE SQUARE ON DECEMBER 3. AND THEN THE LIGHTED CHRISTMAS PARADE ON DECEMBER 4.

WE ARE LOOKING AT HAVING THE JUDGES BACK FOR THE FLOATS. WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HAVE SOMEONE FROM THE PARKS COMMISSION. SO IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN POSSIBLY BEING A JUDGE, THAT COMMITMENT LOOKS LIKE COMING OUT, PROBABLY ABOUT 4:00, WALKING THROUGH THE LINES, LOOKING AT THE FLOATS. AND THEN BEING THERE THROUGHOUT THE CHRISTMAS PARADE, AS WELL, AND JUDGING. AND WE WILL HAVE A RUBRIC.

WE ARE LOOKING AT HAVING REPRESENTATIVES. SO SOMEONE FROM THE PARKS COMMISSION, SOMEONE FROM DOWNTOWN MAIN STREET BOARD, THE TOURISM BOARD AND THEN THE DISD.

SO WE CAN REALLY GET GREAT COLLABORATION GOING ON WITH DIFFERENT BOARDS.

SO IF YOU ARE INTERESTED, SEND ME AN E-MAIL AND WE WILL GIVE OUT MORE INFORMATION.

HOPEFULLY YOU WILL HEAR FROM SOMEONE BY THANKSGIVING. SO THAT WILL GIVE US A GOOD MINIMUM OF A WEEK TO GET ALL OF THE INFORMATION OUT TO WHOEVER IS INTERESTED.

AND THEN THE WEEKEND FOLLOWING THAT IS THE YOUTH HUNTING PROGRAM.

SO THE WEEKEND OF DECEMBER 10, SO FROM FRIDAY NIGHT TO SUNDAY AFTERNOON, EARLY AFTERNOON, WE ARE DOING THE YOUTH HUNTING PROGRAM. APPLICATIONS CLOSE THIS FRIDAY.

AND I KNOW THIS ONE IS -- ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE YOUTH HUNTING PROGRAM? I KNOW MORE INFORMATION HAS COME OUT AND -- I WANTED SPECIFICALLY GIVE TIME RIGHT NOW FOR ANY

QUESTIONS ABOUT THE YOUTH HUNTING PROGRAM. >> HOW MANY APPLICANTS HAVE WE

HAD APPLY? >> THEY ALL GO THROUGH THE TEXAS WILDLIFE ASSOCIATION.

THEY ARE THE MAIN ONES THAT PUT THIS ON. WE ARE JUST WORKING WITH THEM AND THEY -- SO THEY PARTNER WITH LANDOWNERS AND TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE DEPARTMENT.

THEY TAKE ALL OF THE APPLICATIONS AND THEN ONCE IT CLOSES, THEY GO THROUGH AND THEY

SELECT THE SIX FROM THERE. >> SO WE WON'T KNOW EVEN -- DO WE GET ANY DATA ON THE BACK END OF HOW MANY PEOPLE APPLIED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO KNOW IF IT WAS A SUCCESSFUL THING OR NOT?

>> I CAN ASK THEM. AND HOPEFULLY THEY WILL SHARE THAT INFORMATION.

WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM. THE DIRECTOR IS REALLY FANTASTIC. SO, I AM SURE I CAN GET ALL OF THAT, THE DETAILS, TO SEE HOW WELL RESPONDED, NOT ONLY VICTORIA, BUT IT'S OPEN TO ALL OF TEXAS.

SO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE NEAT THINGS ABOUT THIS IS PEOPLE CAN TRAVEL TO DIFFERENT PARTS OF TEXAS AND HUNT DIFFERENT THINGS AND BE EXPOSED TO THE DIFFERENT AREAS SO WE CAN HAVE PEOPLE FROM

WEST TEXAS APPLY TO COME HERE, TOO. >> BUT THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT PRIOR TO MAKING THAT -- I GUESS THE CLOSE DATE.

SO SOMETIME THIS WEEK WE WILL TOUCH BASE WITH THE STATE TO SEE WHAT KIND OF NUMBERS THEY HAVE.

BECAUSE, I THINK KIMBERLY HAS GOTTEN A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.

BUT WE -- AS SHE MENTIONED WE DON'T GET ALERTS WHEN SOMEBODY APPLIES SO WE MAY BE GETTING A LOT OF PHONE CALLS WITH A LOT OF INTEREST, BUT WE DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY EVER HAS APPLIED FOR IT.

THAT'S SOMETHING SHE WILL BE WORKING ON. IF THERE IS SOMEBODY, SOMEONE THAT YOU KNOW, PLEASE LET US KNOW AND WE CAN CONTACT THEM OR HAVE THEM CONTACT US.

SOMETHING THAT KIMBERLY AND I TALKED ABOUT, TOO, IS IF WE HAVE TO LITERALLY PLUG IN ALL THE INFORMATION FOR THE APPLICANT, WE WILL DO THAT. IT'S JUST WE NEED TO FIND THAT APPLICANT THAT FITS THAT CRITERIA OF WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR WHICH IS, AGAIN, KIND OF THE UNDERSERVED AREAS, THE FOLKS WHO HAVE NEVER BEEN HUTTING BEFORE, HAVE NEVER EXPERIENCED ANY OUTDOORS, YOU KNOW, PROGRAMS. SO -- JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE.

>> YES. WE DON'T WANT THE LACK OF COMPUTER ACCESS OR THE LACK OF CONFIDENCE OF FINDING THE RIGHT SITE, SINCE IT'S A SITE OUTSIDE OF OUR OWN, TO BE A DETERRENT.

IF ANYONE NEEDS HELP, AND THIS IS ALWAYS A BLANKET STATEMENT FOR ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS AND EVENTS. WE ARE ALWAYS WILLING TO HELP AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

I KNOW I HAVE HEARD SEVERAL TIMES, JESSICA AND TORI ARE LIKE -- WELL THEY HAVE SAT ON THE

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PHONE AND FILLED OUT THINGS JUST TALKING, GETTING THE RIGHT INFORMATION FROM PEOPLE.

SO THIS IS NO EXCEPTION. WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO BE OFFERING THAT.

>> AWESOME. >> THANK YOU. >> THANKS.

>> ANYTHING ON THE -- >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE YOUTH HUNTING PROGRAM BEFORE I HOP INTO THE REST OF OUR EVENTS IN DECEMBER? OK.

SO, THE SAME WEEKEND AS THE HUNTING WEEKEND IS WE WILL BE DOING MERRY MOVIE NIGHT AT THE AMPHITHEATER. WE WILL HAVE CHRISTMAS MOVIES BEING PLAYED.

THAT WILL BE OUR MOVIE NIGHT IN -- GOLLY -- IN DECEMBER. AND -- YES.

SO THAT, WE WILL BE DOING THAT. HOT CHOCOLATE, ACTIVITIES. IT SHOULD BE A REALLY FUN TIME.

AND THEN ON THE NEXT WEEKEND, SATURDAY, DECEMBER 18, THERE WILL BE A CHRISTMAS FAMILY EXPO HAPPENING AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER. HOPEFULLY WE WILL HAVE SOME VENDORS OUT AND CRAFT OPPORTUNITIES AND TABLES SO COME OUT AND HAVE FUN.

WE ARE CALLING IT THE CHRISTMAS FAMILY EXPO. AND PART OF THAT IS REALLY TO HELP WITH GETTING SOME MARKET ON MAIN VENDORS, SO, WE ARE STILL WORKING WITH IT.

SO WE WILL HAVE MARKET ON MAIN VENDORS AT THE CHRISTMAS ON THE SQUARE EVENT.

SO WE ARE GOING TO ENCOURAGE KIND OF BOTH, ATTENDING BOTH EVENTS.

THERE IS A GROUP THAT DOES A FUNDRAISER WITH WRAPPING GIFTS. SO -- WE ARE GOING TO DO GIFT WRAPPING FOR PEOPLE WHO ATTEND MARKET ON MAIN AT THE CHRISTMAS ON THE SQUARE EVENT.

AND THEY CAN COME AND GET THEIR CHRISTMAS GIFTS WRAPPED AT THIS EVENT WHEN THEY PURCHASE ITEMS FROM THERE. AND -- THAT WILL BE LIKE A BUNDLE DEAL SORT OF THING.

AND THEN, IN JANUARY, WE HAVE THE TAFT WINTER GAMES. WE ARE STILL ROCKING AND ROLLING WITH THAT. DOING GREAT THINGS. GO REC.

>> OK. I HAVE TWO MORE REALLY QUICKLY FOR YOU.

THE GOLF COURSE. OF THE JUST GOING TO BREEZE THROUGH THESE.

WE DID HAVE 10 DAYS THAT THE COURSE WAS CLOSED OBVIOUSLY TO THE RIVER FLOODING.

SO THERE WAS 10 DAYS OF NO REVENUE THERE. WE ARE STILL WORKING WITH VENDORS TO FIND RANGE BALLS. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE DONE OVER THE LAST MONTH IS OUR POINT OF SALE SYSTEM. WE UPGRADED SO THE GOLF NOW IS G1 PLATFORM.

SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY DIDN'T HAVE -- WE KIND OF HAD OUR HANDS TIED ON THAT ONE.

WE HAD TO DO IT ANYWAY. SO, WE DID HAVE 102 TOURNAMENT ROUNDS.

WE HAD 146 PRACTICE ROUNDS WITH THE TOTAL ROUNDS BEING A LITTLE OVER 1900.

WE DO HAVE THREE EVENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMING UP HERE IN NOVEMBER ON THE 13TH WHICH IS THE VHS CLASS OF 1980. ON THE 20TH WE HAVE PAGA AND ON THE 25TH, WE WILL BE CLOSED FOR THANKSGIVING. SO I JUST WANTED TO THROW THOSE NUMBERS OUT THERE TO YOU AND LET

YOU KNOW ABOUT SOME OF THOSE OTHER ITEMS. >> IN GENERAL --

>> YES, MA'AM. >> WHERE DO YOUR PARTICIPANTS COME FROM TO USE THE BALL GOLF COURSE? ARE THEY FROM SURROUNDING TOWNS OR MOSTLY VICTORIA?

>> THE GOLF COURSE? >> YES. >> THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. EVERYTHING THAT I HAVE TALKED WITH OUR GOLF PRO ABOUT, IT SEEMS TO BE WITHIN THE REGION, WITHIN THE AREA. WITHIN I WOULD SAY A 30-MINUTE DRIVE TIME. SOME OF THE LARGER TOURNAMENTS YOU WILL GET SOME FOLKS FROM OUTSIDE OF THAT RADIUS BUT IT'S TYPICALLY WITHIN A 30-ISH MILE RADIUS.

>> DO YOU ALL HAVE MULTI-DAY TOURNAMENTS? >> NOT TYPICALLY.

NO, MA'AM. >> JANUARY 15, THAT WEEKEND, WE WILL HAVE A MULTI-DAY

TOURNAMENT. >> OH, YES, WE WILL. YES, WITH TAFT WE WILL.

WE HAVE A THREE-DAY TOURNAMENT WITH THAT ONE. >> YEAH, WE WILL.

>> IT'S NOT OFTEN THAT WE HAVE MULTI-DAY TOURNAMENTS. BUT THERE ARE OCCASIONS WHERE WE DO. ANY OTHER QUESTION ON THE GOLF COURSE? NO? ALL RIGHT. LAST SLIDE.

COMMUNITY CENTER. JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A QUICK SNAPSHOT.

SO WE HAD 16 RENTALS FOR THE CITY OF VICTORIA, 10 THAT WERE NONCITY OF VICTORIA RENTALS FOR A TOTAL OF 26. MOST OF THOSE CITY RENTALS WILL INCLUDE LEAGUES AND EVENTS AND NONCITY RENTALS ARE PRETTY MUCH TYPICAL, THE WEDDINGS, SWEET 16S, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.

WE ARE WORKING WITH M AND S ENGINEERING FOR THE HVAC DESIGN OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER DOME.

THAT WAS SOMETHING WE HAD PRESENTED TO COUNCIL. COUNCIL APPROVED IT AND WE WERE MOVING FORWARD WITH A REDESIGN OF THE COMPLETE HVAC SYSTEM IN THE DOME.

SO -- THAT WAY IT'S HOT WHEN IT'S COLD AND IT'S COLD WHEN IT'S HOT.

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NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. SO -- OF COURSE THEY ARE CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THE RECREATION DIVISION TO UTILIZE THE COMMUNITY CENTER FOR ADDITIONAL LEAGUES AND PROGRAMS. SO, I WANT TO MAKE SURE, WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO USE THAT AND MAKE IT THE ASSET THAT IT TRULY IS FOR THE COMMUNITY. BUT WITH THAT, THAT'S ALL I'VE

GOT FOR THE DEPARTMENT. >> WAS THE AUDIO SYSTEM REPAIRED AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER?

>> YES. IT IS STILL -- IT -- UNFORTUNATELY IT'S STILL UNDER REPAIR BECAUSE OF THE ONE PART THAT IS WAITING TO BE SENT OVER FROM ACROSS THE SEAS.

SO -- YES. WE ARE STILL WAITING ON ONE LITTLE PART.

BUT, YES, MA'AM. >> -- IMPROVING THE COMMUNITY CENTER, THAT WOULD BE JUST TO REPAINT THE PARKING SPOTS, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING, WELL NOT -- I DON'T KNOW THE COST BUT -- I'M BEING NAIVE ABOUT THAT PART, BUT SOMETHING I THINK I WOULDN'T BE TOO BIG THAT I THINK IT WOULD

IMPROVE THE APPEARANCE. >> SURE. >> THE PARKING.

OK. >> WELL, IF YOU SEE THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, WE WILL HAVE TO MAKE SURE PUBLIC WORKS IS OK WITH THIS. BUT IF YOU SEE PARKS AND REC ON A STRIPING MACHINE, THAT MAY BE SOMETHING. THEY GOT A NEW MACHINE.

WHERE CAN WE USE THAT -- >> I WAS OUT THE OTHER DAY, IT LOOKS GOOD.

>> YES. THANK YOU. >> YES, THAT STADIUM PARKING LOT

LOOKS REALLY NICE. >> YEAH. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S LIKE -- I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE COST BUT I'M SAYING AS FAR AS NOT A LOT OF MANUAL LABOR THAT COULD

CHANGE THE APPEARANCE PRETTY QUICK. >> YES, SIR.

>> DID THE FLOOD MESS UP ALL OF THAT NEW PAVING THAT WENT IN? >> NO, SIR.

NO, SIR. YEAH THEY -- >> THE WEEK BEFORE THE FLOOD

ALLREDID IT. >> PRETTY MUCH. LUCKILY THE SOCCER FIELD PARKING LOT WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT WOULD HAVE REALLY BEEN, WOULD HAVE REALLY HAD SOME ISSUES BUT IT WORKED OUT JUST FINE. THANKFULLY. WE ARE GOOD.

THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. >> ALL RIGHT. JASON, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, KIMBERLY. APPRECIATE IT. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS.

[F. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS:]

ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANT TO PUT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE FUTURE?

FUTURE MEETING? ALL RIGHT. >> I WOULD JUST SAY WHAT'S LIKE KIND OF ALONG THE LINES WITH PARKS AND REC MASTER PLAN.THIS ONCE IT'S APPROVED HOW DO WE GO

ABOUT LOOKING AT THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN. >> GREAT QUESTION.

WHERE DO WE GO, MEAN I HOPE WE ALL AGREED, BECAUSE I REALLY WANT TO.

BUT WITH THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, HOW DID THIS START WITH THE PARKS AND REC MASTER PLAN, HOW DO WE MOVE ON TO A NEW MASTER PLAN? I WASN'T HERE FOR THAT.

>> I LIKE THAT, I LIKE US HAVING GOALS LIKE THAT TO WORK TOWARD TO AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THERE. YOU KNOW. WHAT IS THAT STEP? HE'S RIGHT. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE NEXT PROCESS IF WE WERE TO LOOK THAT

THE? >> WELL, WHAT I SORT OF THOUGHT ABOUT, WHILE, YOU KNOW, READING THROUGH IT AND LOOKING AT THE PLAN RECOMMENDATIONS, WAS TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW, REALLY SIT DOWN AND BREAK OUT IN TOPIC AREAS OR SUBJECT MATTER AREAS, THINGS THAT WE MIGHT, AS A COMMISSION, CHOOSE TO, YOU KNOW, TO TRY TO MAKE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO FORM COMMITTEES OR HOW TO APPROACH THEM. BUT THERE ARE SEVERAL, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE REGULATORY WAS ONE OF THE ISSUES. AND THEN THEY ALSO PRIORITIZED THOSE THINGS, YOU KNOW, SHORT-TERM, MEDIUM TERM, OR LONG TERM OR ONGOING. AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS REALLY LEND THEMSELVES MORE TO THE DEPARTMENT, BUT SOME OF THEM LEND THEMSELVES TO US BEING ABLE TO KIND OF FOCUS ON, TOO. YOU KNOW. I THINK ON THE -- LIKE ON THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, THAT SOUNDS -- I DON'T KNOW THAT MUCH ABOUT IT.

BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S SORT OF AN UNDERTAKING THAT WE PROBABLY HAVE TO GET CONVINCE COUNCIL TO DO. BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THE COMMISSION FAVORS TAKING THAT STEP, BECAUSE IT WILL HAVE -- IT WILL BENEFIT, YOU KNOW, THE

PARKS PLAN GOING FORWARD. >> RIGHT. AND ISN'T THE CITY WORKING ON

THEIR OWN KIND OF MASTER PLAN FOR EVERYTHING? >> SO, THE CITY HAS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THAT'S -- YOU WANT TO CALL IT LIKE THE MAIN UMBRELLA, IF YOU WILL, AND THEN YOU HAVE ALL OF THESE OTHER PLANS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

LIKE THE PARKS MASTER PLAN DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN, TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. SO I MEAN I DON'T -- I MOON WE AREN'T SPEARHEADING ANYTHING ELSE OTHER THAN THE FOUR MASTER PLANS THAT WE HAVE GOING. BUT THERE IS ALWAYS -- THERE ALREADY IS A TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN THAT'S GOING INTO EFFECT.

SO IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT JUST WANT TO BRING UP TO THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN,

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WHOEVER IS BEHIND THAT, AND -- >> WELL, IT'S -- >> THE TROUBLE IS THIS ONE IS KIND OF AN ORPHAN. BECAUSE -- IT'S NOT CARS. CAR PEOPLE HAVE THEIR OWN, CAR

PEOPLE ARE, YOU KNOW -- >> BUT THAT COULD BE ONE OF OUR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS.

DISCUSS HOW WE CAN TAKE THE NEXT. >> GREAT POINT.

>> YEAH. WE DON'T HAVE TO SOLVE IT HERE. WE CAN MAKE THAT A FUTURE --

>> JUSTIN, THANK YOU. THAT IT'S EXACTLY IT. THANK YOU.

>> THAT IS A GREAT THING YOU'RE SAYING. THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN FIGURE

OUT. >> WHY DON'T WE DEVELOP TALKING POINTS FOR THAT FOR NEXT TIME I'LL GET WITH YOU AND WE WILL FOLK OUNCE -- FOCUS ON THAT AND DISCUSS IT.

>> I LIKE THE IDEA OF COMMITTEES, TOO. WE SHOULD DISCUSS THAT.

MAYBE SOME OF US HAVE STRENGTHS THAT WE CAN SETTLE OUT OF COMMITTEE, WHATEVER, TO BRING

THESE DISCUSSIONS BACK WHEN WE ARE AT THIS COMMISSION. >> YEAH, WELL NUMBER ONE I GUESS THE CITY DOES NEED TO ADOPT THE PLAN. ONCE WE --

>> BUT STILL, THOUGH -- EVEN WITHOUT ADOPTING IT, THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA THAT WE HAVE TO MOVE

FORWARD WITH ADDRESSING ANYWAY. >> YEAH. I THINK SO.

WHY DON'T WE PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT TIME THEN. GREAT IDEA.

>> OK. >> THAT'S THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO WORK, JUSTIN.

>> YES. THANK YOU, SIR. I APPRECIATE THAT.

ONE ITEM THAT WE WILL HAVE NEXT ON THE NEXT AGENDA WILL BE THE POTENTIAL TO NOT HAVE A JANUARY MEETING. AND THAT IS SOLELY BECAUSE WE HAVE TAFF THAT SAME WEEK.

WE WILL PROBABLY HAVE SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA IN DECEMBER TO POTENTIALLY NOT HAVE A JANUARY MEETING IF THE COMMISSION IS OK WITH THAT. OR WE COULD MOVE IT.

BUT THE -- YEAH. >> YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO BE SWAMPED.

>> IT'S ALSO MLK WEEKEND. >> WELL, YES. THAT MONDAY IS MLK DAY SO IT'S A

CITY HOLIDAY. >> SO NONETHELESS WE WILL HAVE SOMETHING ELSE ON THE AGENDA FOR

YOU TO DISCUSS AND POTHOLELY APPROVE. >> NEXT JANUARY MEETING IS THE

10TH? >> I THINK IT'S THE MONDAY BEFORE.

>> E OH, YES. THE SECOND MONDAY. SORRY.

>> ALL RIGHT. WELL WITHOUT OBJECTION THEN, THINK WE WILL STAND ADJOURNED.

>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU.

>> GOOD TO SEE Y'ALL.

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