Sep 21, 2021 City Council

[A. CALL TO ORDER]

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>> WELCOME TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING FORTU, SEPTEMBER 21ST.

MS. WILL WOW PLEASE CALL ROLL.

PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND REMAIN STANDING FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE.

>>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE FOR THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> PLEASE REMAIN STANDING AS WE PREPARE OUR HEARTS AND MINDS FOR DOING THE CITY'S BUSINESS.

THANK YOU. OKAY, WELCOME, EVERYONE LET'S START OFF WITH ANNOUNCEMENTS AND

[1. Announcements/Reminders:]

COUPLE. >>> YES, SIR, MAYOR AND COUNCIL JUST A QUICK NOTE, IT IS IN YOUR PACKET AS WELL, THAT TONIGHT WE WILL NOT BE HAVING AN UPDATE ON THE ANIMAL CODE ADOPTION.

I AM BEGGING OFF AND ASKING FOR A FEW MORE DAYS TO RESPOND TO ALL OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT.

WE'VE HAD OVER 1200 RESPONSES TO THE ON-LINE SURVEY. WE HAVE HAD 80 DIFFERENT PEOPLE AT THE TOWN HALL MEETINGS WHO GAVE US FEEDBACK IN COMMENTS AND OVER 700 PEOPLE TYPE IN INDIVIDUALIZED RESPONSES TO THE SURVEY QUESTIONS. IT IS GOING TO TAKE ME A LITTLE WHILE TO DIGEST THAT. RIGHT NOW I'M LOOKING AT THE TREE BUT I NEED BE ABLE TO STEP BACK AND SEE THE FOREST IN ORDER TO GIVE YOU FEEDBACK ABOUT WHAT THE TRENDS AND DESIRES OF THE COMMUNITY ARE. SO INSTEAD OF BRINGING THAT BACK TONIGHT AS MENTIONED AS THE LAST MEETING, I'M GOING TO BRING MY RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU THIS FRIDAY AT THE QUARTERLY WORKSHOP THAT IS ALREADY SCHEDULED. AND I'LL GET Y'ALL'S FEEDBACK BASED ON THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS FRIDAY SO THAT AT OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING I CAN BRING YOU BACK A DRAFT FOR CONSIDERATION.

THERE IS A MISTAKE IN THE COUNCIL PACKET AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

I WROTE IN THE PACKET WE WOULD COME BACK AS A SECOND READING. THE MAYOR REMINDED ME THIS MORNING, THAT Y'ALL'S CONSENSUS THIS MORNING WAS THAT COME BACK AS A FIRST READING AGAIN, AND SO WE WILL ESSENTIALLY START FROM SCRATCH WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE COMMUNITY AND Y'ALL'S FEEDBACK AND WE'LL HAVE A NEW DRAFT ON OCTOBER 5TH. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT

THAT TIMELINE? >> NO, THANK YOU FOR HOSTING THOSE TOWN HALLS.

>> I THINK THEY WERE VERY ECKIVE. >> YEAH.

>> MR. GARZA, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? >> NOT ON OUR END OTHER THAN.

>> I HAVE ONE I WANT TO ANNOUNCE, BIG WIN FOR OUR COMMUNITIESP WE'RE OPENING A REGIONAL INFUSION CENTER. IT WILL OPEN TOMORROW. THIS WILL BE TO TO PROVIDE THE REGENERON MONOCLONAL ANTIBODIES IT IS REGIONAL AT THE MITCHELL SCHOOL IN DOWNTOWN ASK YOU'LL NEED TO GET APPOINTMENT FROM YOUR PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIAN OR SOMETHING IF YOU NEED THAT TREATMENT. IT IS GOING TO BE OPEN FROM 8 TO 57 DAYS A WEEK.

GOVERNOR WAS GRACIOUS IN AWARDING US THAT AND THROUGH THEY'RE GOING TO BE STAFFING IT I WILL FREE UP HOSPITAL PERSONNEL TO FOCUS THEIR DUTIES AT THE HOSPITAL AS OPPOSED TO DOING INFUSIONS. EXCITED ABOUT THAT. COUPLE OTHER ITEMS, WE HAVE SOCCER FIELD, RIVERSIDE PARK AT THE RIBBON CUTTING AT 5:30 ON FRIDAY.

AND THEN THE CITY IS ALSO SPONSORING A SMOKE CANONBALL THIS WEEKEND.

IT IS THIS WEEKEND, RIGHT? >> ON FRIDAY. >>> FROM 4 TO 7 AT THE MALL I

BELIEVE. >> MALL PARKING LOT. YES, BY THE FORMER SEARS

BUILDING. >> IT'S A CANONBALL RUN. >> PART OF A LARGER EVENT THAT DOES HAVE MOTORCYCLISTS GOING THROUGH DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES AND VICTORIA IS ONE OF THE

STOPS. >> EXCELLENT. IF THERE ARE NO OTHER

[2. Public & Employee Recognitions:]

I WANT TO CONGRATULATION MR. GARZA. HE JUST GOT HIS CREDENTIAL MANAGER DESIGNATION FROM THE CITY COUNTY MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION AND JOB WELL DONE.

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>>> COOL, THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> THANK.

[3. Items from Council:]

>> ANY OTHER ONE? >> NO, SIR. >> ITEMS FROM COUNCIL, THEN?

ANYBODY? >> I'D LIKE TO PULL C10 PLEASE. >>> YES, MA'AM.

[4. Citizen Communication:]

>> NOTHING ELSE. >> CITIZENS COMMUNICATION, MS. CLARA RAMOS.

PLEASE REMEMBER REMARKS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES. >> GOOD EVENING, I'M GOING TO BE SHORT AND SWEET. FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR THE LAST MEETING FOR ME SPEAKING OUT WHEN I SHOULDN'T HAVE BUT IT IS KIND OF HARD FOR SIT THERE AND LISTEN TO SOMETHING THAT WAS BEING SAID WHEN I KNOW THAT WE -- I PERSONALLY HAVE TRIED EVERYTHING. AND SO THAT'S WHY I HAD TO KIND OF LIKE SAY WHAT I DID, AND I'M SORRY. BUT I HAD SUBMITTED AN APPEAL AND I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS FOR THAT. BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE APPEAL DOES NOT GO UNSEEN, UNHEARD, BECAUSE WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF APPEALING IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ADDRESSED? IT SEEMS LIKE TO ME THERE IS NO -- I DON'T WANT TO USE THE WORD CARE, BUT YOU KNOW PEOPLE DON'T CARE, BECAUSE I KNOW THEY DO. BUT I KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T DO WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO AND I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF WE'RE ONE OF THOSE IN ORDER FOR US TO FOR THE AWARDS, YOU KNOW, TO BE GETTING LESSER AND LESSER. AND THAT'S ALL.

REALLY, THIS IS IS NOT ABOUT THE MONEY. IT IS NOT.

BECAUSE WE'VE HAD THIS MEMORIAL WEEKEND BASH FOR OVER 20 SOMETHING YEARS WITHOUT ANY HELP FROM ANYBODY EXCEPT FOR THE SPONSORS WE RELY ON. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE JUST WANT FAIRNESS, EQUALITY, AND THAT'S WHAT THE APPEAL WAS FOR. I WANTED TO FIND OUT WHAT IS IT THAT WE'RE DOING WRONG? AND I HADN'T HEARD ANYTHING. I'M HOPING THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT I GET SOME KIND OF RESPONSE. I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT IS GOING TO TAKE, BUT, IF SOMEONE COULD JUST GIVE ME A CALL AND SAY, HEY, WE'RE WORKING ON IT OR WE'RE THINKING ABOUT IT OR WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'LL LET YOU KNOW, BUT I HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANYTHING.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I HAD TO COME BACK TODAY. OKAY.

SO HAVE A GREAT EVENING AND PLEASE, TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION SO THAT YOU WON'T PUSH PEOPLE AWAY FROM YOU KNOW, DOING WHAT THEY FEEL THEY HAVE TO DO LIKE APPEALING SOMETHING

THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MS. RAMOS.

>> GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I'M MICHAEL VINE DROVE LOT 20A THERE IS A LOT OF ABANDONED TRAILER HOUSES AND THEY'VE BEEN ABANDONED FOR SEVERAL MONTHS AND WANTED TO APPRECIATE, THANK CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THE DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES IN THE CITY OF VICTORIA FOR HELPING, THEY JUST SMASHED TWO TRAILER HOUSES UP THE LAST TWO WEEKS AND WASTE MANAGEMENT BEING TAKEN CARE OF THE TRAILER HOUSES, YOU KNOW AND A LOT OF THESE DOORS ARE UNSECURED AND IT REALLY LOOKS TRASHY. AND YOU KNOW, SOMEONE HAS TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEM AND THEY'RE PAYING $285 A MONTH LOT FEE AND THEY DON EVEN LIVE THERE.

THAT IS MONEY JUST WASTED AND THE COST OF TEARING DOWN A TRAILER HOUSE IS ABOUT $6,000 APIECE. AND THEY'VE ALREADY TORE DOWN 2. AND TRAILER NUMBER 10 IS UP FOR THE BUILDING STANDARDS AND COMMISSION HEARING ON OCTOBER 14TH.

AND I JUST WANTED TO THANK THE CITY OF VICTORIA AND CODE ENFORCEMENT AND DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES FOR THE HELP AND CONGRATULATIONS TO THE JESUS GARZA FOR HIS CITY MANAGER CERTIFIED CREDENTIALED PERSON. SIGNIFICANT A LONG CERTIFICATION, I CAN'T REMEMBER IT. BUT HE'S LEGIT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S BOTTOM LINE, HE'S LEGAL.

EVERYTHING ABOUT HIM IS LEGAL, YOU KNOW. THANKS AND HAVE A GOOD DAY.

>> THANK YOU. >> IS THERE ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK THAT MAYBE DIDN'T FILL OUT

[C. Consent Agenda:]

INTO THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> DEM C1 ADOPTION OF SPECIAL SUPPORT AND MAINTENANCE FOR

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ITEM C4 IS A RESOLUTION APPROVING A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH M & S ENGINEERING LLC FOR DESIGN AND PROJECT MANAGEMENT FOR COMMUNITY CENTER DOME HVAV IN AN AMOUNT

NOT TO EXOCET $130,000. >>> C5 AUTHORIZE THE CITY CONTRACT WITH THE TEXAS PARKS

AND WILDLIFE DEPARTMENT FOR THE DUCK POND PROJECT. >>> C6 APPROVAL OF SELECTIVE

TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM. >> C7 APPROVE THE CITYWIDE UNIFORM RENTAL SERVICE AGREEMENT

WITH CONTRIBUTEAS CORPORATION IN THE AMATZIA OF $135,000. >>> C8 APPROVAL A INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE GOLDEN CRESCENT REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION FOR ENHANCED 911 SERVICES HAVE C9 APPROVAL OF SUPPLEMENTAL LETTER REPRESENTATION WITH LLOYD GOSSEL, INC. FOR WATER RIGHT PROTEST BEFORE THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL

QUALITY. >>> I MOVE TO ADOPT THE CONSENTING A.

>>> FIRST SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >>> ALL OPPOSE SAME SIGN,

[10. Approve Change Order #1 to the 2020 Rehab/Overlay Project to Brannan P...]

PASSES, C10. >> C10 IS A RESOLUTION APPROVALLING THE CHANGE ORDER 1 TO 2020 REHAB DELETE S/OVERLAY PROJECT BRANNAN PAVING COLTD FOR SOCCER FIELD AND RIVERSIDE

STADIUM PARKING IMPROVEMENTS AMOUNT IN $479,337.50. >> THIS IS A REGION ORDER TO BRANDON BRAVING CONTRACT DOING A REHAB OVERLAY PROJECT RIGHT NOW AND THIS WOULD ADD THE SOCCER FIELD PROJECT TO IT AS WELL AS RIVERSIDE. SOCCER FIELD, THE PARKING LOT OUT THERE IS IN PRETTY POOR CONDITION. WHAT THE IT IS ABOUT 150 SPACES WE GET. IT IS RECONSTRUCTION, BUT ON I KIND OF WANT TO DEFINE I KNOW THERE WILL BE QUESTION ABOUT THE RECONSTRUCTION IS IT TERMINOLOGY WE'RE USING ON THIS ONE BECAUSE WE'RE TAKING UP ON, REGRADING THE BASE BUT GOING TO ADD MORE BASE TO IT AND ADD A RESURFACING ON IT. THE REHAB OVERLAY, WHY WE CALL THOSE REHAB OVERLAY AND WE'LL REVISIT IT, WE'RE NOT RIPPING THE STREET COMPLETELY APART. WE'RE NOT TEARING UP THE CURB, WE'RE NOT TEARING UP THE CURB AND GUTTER AND DRIVEWAYS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

IT IS MORE OF A REHAB OF THE PAVEMENT, BUT WE'RE ALSO DOING A BASE STRUCTURE, VERY SIMILAR CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN THE PARKING LOT OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN THE CURRENT PROJECT. THERE IS THE LOCATION OF IT, IT IS THE MAIN ONE RIGHT ADJACENT TO THE SOCCER FIELDS ABOUT 310 FEET BY 325 FEET AND THE RIVERSIDE STADIUM PROJECT, WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT, WE WANT TO TAKE THAT PARKING LOT AND RESURFACE IT.

THIS ONE WE'RE GOING TO USE, FILL THE POTHOLES IN THAT ARE OUT THERE AND DO SOME OF THE MINOR REPAIRS. WHAT WE WANT TO DO ON THIS IS A MICROSURFACE.

DIFFERENT FROM A SEAL COAT IN THAT IT IS A SAND-AGGREGATE-TYPE MIXTURE THEY PUT ON.

IT LOOKS SIMILAR TO HOT MIX. YOU HAVE TO DO IT OOON A GOOD STREET.

WE'VE NEVER DONE IT. I'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT IT IN THE WORLD OF ASPHALT AND OTHER PLACES. AND THIS IS A COMPANY THAT DOES IT.

THEY'VE GOT A GOOD REPUTATION. THESE ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT THEY'VE DONE IN OTHER AREAS.

AND THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE BASICALLY AFTER IT HAS BEEN DOWN A WHILE, ALMOST OILAT TO HOT MIX AND AGAIN THE SOCCER FIELD COST IS $129,000, RIVERSIDE IS ABOUT 150.

IT IS A TOTAL CHANGE ORDER. AND FUNDING WOULD COME FROM THE HOTEL/MOTEL TAX.

>> AND TIMELINE THIS IS THE BIG ONE, WE'RE TRYING TO GET THESE PROJECTS IN BEFORE THE TAFF OLYMPICS WHICH IS COMING IN DECEMBER. WE ALSO WANT TO GET IT DONE IN TIME FOR THE NEXT SEASON FOR SOCCER. AS YOU WELL KNOW, THESE PRODUCTS ARE BEST PLACED WHEN IT IS HOT. TO GET IT DURING THE COLD MONTHS WE WOULD HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL NEXT SUMMER OR NEXT MAY, JUNE TO GET THEM DOWN. OUR SCHEDULE IS PRECONSTRUCTION

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>> THAT MICROSURFACE, THE RIVERSIDE PARK HAS A LONG HISTORY OF FLOODING.

HOW IS THAT MICROSURFACE GOING TO HOLD UP TO THE HOT MIX OR ASPHALT THERE NOW?

>> IT IS STILL A SEALANT. BASICALLY ANYWHERE A QUARTER TO 3/8 THICK.

IT SEALS WHAT IS THERE AND IT IS NOT GOING TO BE DEGRADE IF IT FLOODS.

IT IS NOT GOING TO COME APART. WE'RE GOING TO FIX THE BASE AND THE PARTS THAT ARE SHOWING RIGHT NOW. WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT LEVELED AND FIXED WITH OUR STREET DEPARTMENT CREWS. BUT I'VE HAD THEM OUT THERE AND LOOKED AT IT PERSONALLY.

THEY SENT BOTH SUPERINTENDENTS AND SAID IS THIS SOMETHING THAT CAN WORK AND WILL LAST? WE DON'T WANT IT TO BE SOMETHING THAT GO IN THERE AND IT LASTS SIX MONTHS.

BUT THEY'VE ASSURED US OF THE ISSUES. AND WE'VE EXPLAINED, YOU KNOW,

THIS PARK FLOODS, HOW DOES YOUR PRODUCT HOLD UP. >> WHAT IT IS, BECAUSE IT IS NEW, I'M KIND OF CURIOUS ABOUT IT, BECAUSE THE USE IN A PARKING LOT IS DIFFERENT THAN IF USE ON THE STREET STREET TRAFFIC CONTINUES TO MOVE AND HERE THE VEHICLES ARE JUST SITTING.

IS THIS DESIGNED MORE FOR THAT AREA? >> IT ACTUALLY BEEN USED -- THEY'VE USED IT IN A LOT OF OTHER CITIES ON STREETS ALSO. IT IS AN APPLICATION THAT EVEN HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT USES. SO IT IS A PRODUCT THAT HAS BEEN TESTED, VETTED AND THEY'VE REALLY HIT I WOULD SAY NORTH TEXAS, EVEN FURTHER UP INTO THE OUTER LYING STATES THEY'RE STARTING TO REALLY PUSH DOWN HERE, LIKE I SAID LIKE THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO WORLD OF ASPHALT CAME IN AND TALKED ABOUT IT. BUT IT IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU WOULD SEE IN A PARKING LOT WHERE YOU GET A CONTRACTOR AND THEY ALMOST JUST PAINT IT, THIS IS NOT JUST A PAINT JOB.

IT HAS GOT MORE SUBIS ISENCE TO IT, MORE BINDER MORE ASPHALT. >>> DO YOU HAVE A LIFE

EXPECTANCY OF THESE PARKING LOTS? >> IT SIMILAR TO A SEAL COAT.

IT WOULD BE THE PARKING LOT ITSELF WILL LAST BECAUSE OF THE BASE AND SUBSURFACE.

WE'D HAVE TO DO MAINTENANCE ON IT IN 7 TO TEN YEARS. I'M HOPING LONGER BECAUSE IT

WILL BE NOT AS MUCH TRAFFIC. SO EXPECTATIONS WILL BE LONGER. >>> I SAW YOUR TIMELINE BEGINNING CONSTRUCTION. THAT WILL BE DURING A CURRENT SEASON DOWN THERE.

>> YES. >> DO WE HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE PARKING SITUATION?

>> THERE WILL BE AREA BEHIND THE RIVERSIDE WHAT IS IT CONVENTION CENTER, THAT AREA AND THEN, OF COURSE, BACK IN THE BACK, ONE THING WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH THE CONTRACTOR IS WITH KNOW THE WEEKENDS WILL BE THE BIG EVENTS CAN YOU GET TO A POINT WHERE PEOPLE CAN DRIVE ON IT.

IF IT IS DRY I'M SURE THEY WILL BE ABLE TO. WE WENT THROUGH THAT IN A NEIGHBORHOOD TO WHERE WE GOT EVERYBODY HOME, SO I'M GOING TO WORK WITH THEM AND SAY LET'S DO

OUR BEST TO OPEN IT BACK UP SO THEY AN DRIVE ON IT AND PARK. >> DO YOU HAVE A PICTURE OF THE

ACTUAL DESIGN OF THE PARKING LOT. >>> NOT YET.

THAT'S WHAT I'M WAITING TODAY. IF Y'ALL APPROVAL IT, AGAIN, UP TO Y'ALL, WE'LL GO OUT THERE, MEASURE IT AND I'LL GET OUR STAFF AND WE'LL HAVE A PARKING LOT LAYOUT ACTUALLY OF THE

SPACES AND HOW WE'RE GOING LAY IT OUT. >> AND I ASK BECAUSE I BELIEVE ONE OF THE PLANS IS TO PUT FOOD TRUCKS ON THAT THE SLAB IS THAT CORRECT?

>> YES. >> SO THE LAYOUT OF THE PARKING LOT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

WE'LL HAVE A LOT OF CHILDREN SO WE NEED TO CONSIDER SAFETY. >> AND WE WILL.

BETWEEN OUR DEPARTMENT AND PLANNING WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF PARKING LOTS.

WE'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH DIFFERENT OPTIONS OUT THERE AND LOOK AT WHICH IS SAFEST, BUT YES, THAT IS CRUCIAL. BUT WE DO WANT TO MAXIZE THE NUMBER OF SPACES OUT THERE, NO

DOUBT. >> MAYBE IT WILL COME FROM THAT OTHER SIDE.

>> THE TRUCKS WILL COME IN FROM THE BACKSIDE BECAUSE THE OTHER SIDE.

>> THERE WILL BE A FIELD UP AT THE TOP POSSIBLY. >>> ONCE WE GET TO THAT LEVEL OF SPECIFICITY WE'LL SHARE WITH IT YOU NOT A PROBLEM. ONE OF THE REASONS AND WE DIDN'T NATURALLY HIT ON IT BUT WE'RE TRYING TO PROCEED WITH THIS PROJECT AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN AND USING THE CREATIVE MEANS OF DOING THE CHANGE ORDER, BECAUSE WE HAVE THE TOURNAMENT THAT IS

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THAT IS PART OF THE REASON FOR USING THE CHANGE ORDER MECHANISM TO GET THIS PROJECT FLOWN AND

MOVING SLOWLY, QUICKER. >> I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT TOPIC.

THE CHANGE ORDER IS NOT IS BEING MADE TO ANOTHER PROJECT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS ONE.

I JUST WANT TO KNOW, ARE WE CLARIFYING THAT? IS IT LEGAL TO DO THAT? I THOUGHT A CHANGE ORDER HAD TO BE LIKE WE'RE DOING A CHANGE ORDER TO WOODWAY.

WOODWAY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PARK. SO YOU TELL ME HOW WE'RE DOING THIS LEGALLY JUST FOR, YOU KNOW, THE SAKE OF TRANSPARENCY SO SOMEBODY DOESN'T COME UP AND SAY, OKAY GUYS Y'ALL ARE DOING SOMETHING YOU AREN'T SUPPOSED TO THAT IS WHAT I WANT CLARITY ON.

>> MS. SOLIZ, WE DID LOOK AT THIS PROJECT TO MAKE SURE IT WAS WITHIN THE SCOPE OF WHAT CAN BE DONE UNDER A CHANGE ORDER. IT IS A SIMILAR-TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION THAT CAN BE EXPANDEDEEN THOUGH IT IS IN A DIFFERENT GEOGRAPHIC AREA. THE LEGAL STANDARD IS WHETHER THIS IS SO SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT THAN IT CUTES A NEW PROJECT.

IN THIS CASE YOU HAVE THE SAME COMPANY DOING THE SAME KIND OF WORK SO I BELIEVE IT IS IN

WITHIN THE SCOPE OF A CHANGE ORDER. >>> OKAY, I DON'T WANT SOMEBODY TO COME IN AND SAY YOU DIDN'T GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO BID ON THIS PROJECT.

I KNOW IT IS SIMILAR, BUT THAT IS WHERE I WANT CLARIFICATION. >> I UNDERSTAND, THAT IS A REASONABLE CONCERN BUT WE'VE LOOKED AT THIS PROJECT AND I'M CONFIDENT WE'RE WITHIN THE

SCOPE. >>> OKAY, I UNDERSTAND THE URGENCY OF DOING IT, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE CLEAR ON THAT THAT CHANGE ORDERS ARE FOR THE PROJECT AS IT WAS

SUPPOSED TO BE. >>> ONE QUESTION I HAD, YOU SAID MICROSURFACING WAS NEW TO THE CITY. DOES BRANDON HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH THIS MATERIAL?

>> THEY'VE SEEN IT IN OTHER PARTS AND THEY WORK WITH THIS COMPANY -- WHAT WE CALL SUBCONTRACTOR IN ITSER IN MOUNT TAYE SLURRY SEAL AND THEY'RE THE SPECIALIST WITH PUTTING THAT PRODUCT DOWN. THEY WON'T BE DOING THE PRELIMINARY WORK.

THEY'VE GOT THE FINAL STRIPING, BUT THEY WORK TOGETHER REAL CLOSE AND WE MADE SURE THAT THEY I MEAN, THAT WAS A BIG KEY TO IT WAS MAKING SURE THAT WE DEVELOPMENT A COMPANY THAT WAS

THE SPECIALIST IN DOING A MICROSURFACING. >> THAT WAS MY QUESTION, TOO,

THANK YOU. >> ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

>>> MOTION. >> FIRST SECOND, FURTHER DISCUSSION IN HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE THOSE OPENS SAME SIGN. ALL RIGHT,.

[1. Approve cooperative purchasing contracts for various computers, softwa...]

>> D1 IS A RESOLUTION APPROVAL COOPERATIVE PURCHASING CONTRACT FOR VARIOUS COMPUTER, SOFTWARE, PERIPHERALS ASK RELATED EQUIPMENT IN AMOUNT OF $1,189,886.

>> I'M HAPPY TO SPEAK ABOUT PURCHASING COOPERATIVE CONTRACTS TODAY AND THE BENEFITS THEY POSE TO THE CITY BY INCREASING EFFICIENCY AND EFFECTIVENESS. COOPERATIVE PURCHASING INVOLVES PROCURING CONTRACTS BETWEEN GOVERNMENTS. THE TWO MAIN TYPES ARE PIGGYBACK CONTRACTS AND THIRD PARTY AGGREGATORS, SORRY I'M A LITTLE TONGUE TIED THIS EVENING.

PIGGYBACK IS WHERE ONE OR MORE ORGANIZATIONS REPRESENT THEIR REQUIREMENTS THEY INCLUDE AN OPTION WHEREAS OTHER ORGANIZATIONS CAN BRIDGE OR RIDE TOGETHER AND THIRD PARTIRY BRINGS TOGETHER MULTIPLE ORGANIZATIONS THEIR REQUIREMENTS MANAGE THE RESULTING CONTRACT OR CONTRACTOR. NOW THESE PURCHASING COOPERATIVES ARE RELATIVELY EASY TO ADMINISTER. THEY MAKE A WIDE VARIETY OF CONTRACTS AVAILABLE.

IT REDUCES THE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS AND RESULTS IN COST SAVING.

COOPERATIVE CONTRACTS ARE ALSO ESPECIALLY ADVANTAGEOUS FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS BECAUSE THEY BENEFIT FROM THE MARKET SHARE LEVERAGED BY LARGER CONSUMERS AND USING SPECIALIZED PROCUREMENT PROFESSIONALS AND TECHNICAL EVALUATION COMMITTEE MEMBERS, GOVERNMENTS CAN PRODUCE BETTER CONTRACTS FOR HIGHER QUALITY PRODUCTS AND SERVICES. COOPERATIVE PROCUREMENT

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WHEN YOU GO TO A COOPERATIVE, THERE IS A PRICE, JUST BECAUSE THAT IS THE PRICE THAT DOESN'T MEAN IS THE LOWEST PRICE YOU CAN GET IT AT SO THAT IS JUST ANOTHER BENEFIT IN CASE YOU WEREN'T AWARE. CURRENTLY THE CITY UTILIZES OVER TEN COOPERATIVES.

FOR THIS ITEM THAT THE JAMES IS BRINGING WE'RE UTILIZING THESE THREE FIVE COOPERATIVE WITH THE

IS DIR, AND OMNIA. >> DO YOU QUESTIONS ON COOPERATIVES OR HOW THEY WORK?

>> NO. OKAY, I'M GOING THE LET JAMES TALK ABOUT THE SPECIFICS OF THIS

ITEM. >> THANK YOU. I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE, DIR WOULD BE A GREAT EXAMPLE OF ONE WE BIGGYBACK AGAINST.

OMNIA IS ONE WE ACTUALLY USE IS A COOPERATIVE. AGAIN, THIS SORT OF A BREAKDOWN AS FAR AS OUR CONTRACTS WITH WE USE, OVER 86% OF OUR PURCHASES ARE MADE THROUGH TEXAS DIR.

ALTHOUGH WE USE DIR FOR A LOT OF OUR PURCHASES WE STILL DO A REVIEW PROCESS, NOT ONLY PRIOR TO BUT WHEN WE ACTUALLY GET READY TO PURCHASE, A PRIME EXAMPLE WOULD BE OUR COMPUTERS WE DON'T NECESSARILY REPLACE OUR COMPUTERS ALL AT ONCE. WE DO HAVE A REPLACEMENT CYCLE OF FIVE YEARS ON COMPUTERS. AND SO WHEN WE'RE REPLACING THEM OUT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR INSTEAD OF REPLACING THEM ALL AT ONCE. WHEN WE PLACE THAT ORDER WE GET THE PRICING FROM DELL FOR THEIR PARTICULAR PRICING UNDER THE CONTRACTS WITHIN REACH OUT TO OUR DEL AND ASK FOR ADDITIONAL PRICING AND GENERALLY WE'LL SEE A COST SAVINGS USUALLY 3 TO 5% COST SAVINGS.

OMNIA IS THE ONE THAT IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE, THIS WOULD BE ONE WE'RE USING THAT ONE FOR OUR.

>>> THE MAJORITY OF OUR PURCHASE IS UNDER MAINTENANCE. THESE ARE YEARLY RECURRING, OPEN GOV, OUR SOFTWARE MAINTENANCE AND SOME OF THOSE ACTUALLY WERE SORE OF RESTRICTED TO THE VENDOR AND THEY MAY HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY OFFER IT JUST THROUGH TEXAS DIR.

THERE IS NOT A LOT OF OTHER PLACES THAT YOU CAN GET THOSE FROM.

SO 61% ON SOFTWARE MAINTENANCE AND THEN 23% ON OUR REPLACEMENT EQUIPMENT.

AND THEN LASTLY, THE MAJORITY OF OUR PURCHASES ARE IN I. T. BASICALLY, AGAIN, I. T. IS SET AS AN INTERNAL SERVICE DEPARTMENT. A LOT OF CHARGES THAT CAN BE CHARGED OUT TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS. SO THEN WE CAN SPREAD THOSE COSTS OUT TO THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS AS NEEDED. AND ANY QUESTIONS?

>> THANK YOU, MR. FOOTE. >> THANK YOU. >> ANYBODY CARE TO MAKE A

MOTION. >> SO MOVEED. SECOND.

>> THANK YOU, ANY PUTT DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR

SAY AYE. >>> THOSE OPPOSE SAME SIGN. DEM D1 IS APPROVED.

[2. Approve a professional services agreement for the development of the U...]

ITEM D2. >>> DEM D2 APPROVAL PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT OF A UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE FOR FREESE AND NICHOLS, INC. IN AMOUNT OF

$249,634. >> GOOD EVENING, A QUICK PRESENTATION JUST TO GIVE COUNCIL BACKGROUND WHEN WE EMBARKED UPON OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE COMPANY THAT COMPLETED THAT PLAN FOR UUS WITH A DEVELON EVALUATION REPORT THAT WAS TIED TO THE 2035 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN

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AND OVERWHELMINGLY RECOMMENDED THAT WE GO MORE FOR USER FRIENDLY DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE CALLED A UNIFIED LAND AND SITE DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE. AND SO AS THAT WAS THE KICK-OFF TO OUR PLAN AND AS WE WENT THROUGH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING PROCESS, AGAIN, THROUGHOUT THE DOCUMENT, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY IN OUR FUTURE LAND CUES AND DEVELOPMENT SECTION WE CONTINUE TO HAVE STRATEGIC ACTION PRIORITIES AND RECOMMENDATIONS THROUGHOUT THE THAT SAYS WE NEED TO GO FOR MORE USER FRIENDLY DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS IN A CONSOLIDATED UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE. SO TONIGHT WE'RE HERE TO LONG, ANTICIPATED ASK YOU TO AWARD A CONTRACT TO CREATE A UNIFIED LAND DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE. IF YOU REMEMBER IN OCTOBER OF 2018, THERE WAS A JOINT PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL MEETING WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE ISSUES WITH OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE. THE ISSUES WITH OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE ARE NOT OUR ACTUAL STANDARDS AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, SETBACK STANDARDS OR ACTUAL REGULATIONS. ALTHOUGH THERE ARE DEFINITELY THINGS I WANT TO BRING UP AND DISCUSS AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. BUT IT IS REALLY THE PROSES AND THE TRIGGERS AND WHEN CERTAIN PERMANENT IS APPLY. AND AS YOU TALKED ABOUT IN THE JOINT MEETING A LOT OF US HAVE TO DO WITH RELYING ON THE NOT DIPPING OUR TOES INTO THE ZONING AUTHORITY. AND SO AFTER WE HAVE THAT COUNCIL MEETING AND KIND OF DISCUSSED WE NEED AS WE UPDATE OUR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCES WE NEED TO REALLY CONSIDER ALL THE TOOLS IN THE TOOL BOX AND SO WHEN WE WENT THROUGH TO THE RFQ PROCESS THAT IS SOMETHING WE REALLY LOOKED AT AS FAR AS FIRMS TO HELP US LOOK AT WHAT IS THE BEST OPTION MOVING FORWARD FOR THE CITY OF VICTORIA. SO WITH THAT WE DID ISSUE AN RFQ BACK IN MARCH. WE HAD AN INTERNAL COMMITTEE THAT WAS MADE UP OF MIKE ETIENNE, MYSELF, CELESTE MA CHAKA, AND LAURA GONZALEZ OUR PURCHASING MANAGER AND WE CONDUCTED THE COMMITTEE CONDUCTED INTERVIEWS MAY 14TH.

WE HAD TWO FIRMS RESPOND TO OUR RFQ. AND IT WAS A VERY TOUGH DECISION AFTER THE INTERVIEWS, WE WERE REALLY TORN. WE WEREN'T SURE SO WE REALLY DID A LOT OF RESEARCH AS FAR AS THE REFERENCES AND FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS.

AND THAT LED TO ME BRINGING IN THOMAS, WE ACTUALLY DID SOME INTERVIEW ZOOM INTERVIEWS WITH SOME OF THEIR REFERENCE CHECKS THEIR LEGAL DEPARTMENTS AND REALLY WHAT I IT BOILED DOWN TO WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE ACTUAL CODES THE CLIENTS ENDED UP WITH OVERWHELMLY WE REALIZED FREES & NICHOLS DEVELOPED CODES THAT WERE MUCH MORE USER FRIENDLY, YOU DIDN'T NEED TO BE A PROFESSIONAL PLANNER OR ATTORNEY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT CODE SAID.

SO WE SELECTED FREESE AND NICHOLS BASED OFF OF THAT. WE BEGAN NEGOTIATIONS AND SO TONIGHT WE'RE HERE TO ASK YOU TO AWARD THAT CONTRACT TO FREESE AND NICHOLS AND I DO HAVE CHANCE SPARKS, THE PROJECT MANAGER AND HE'S GOING TO TAKE A MINUTE TO KIND OF INTRODUCE HIMSELF AND

HIS TEAM AND APPROACH OR HISTORY ON DEVELOPING. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, JULIE.

GOOD TO BE BACK HERE IN MY HOMETOWN AGAIN AND TALKING ABOUT PLAN IMPLEMENTATION.

WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE TEAM WE BRING TO THIS. WE BRING A BLEND OF DESIGN PROFESSIONALS, MEANING PLANNERS,TECTS, ENGINEERS, BUT ALSO WE BRING A LEGAL BACKGROUND WITH THIS. WE HAVE AN ATTORNEY PART OF OUR PROJECT.

AND WE LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THAT WE DEVELOP CODES WITH THE USER EXPERIENCE IN MIND.

WE DON'T REALLY THINK ABOUT IT NECESSARILY FROM THE STAFF SPACE CENTER SPECTIVEP WE THINK ABOUT WHO IS GOING TO BE USING THIS ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS. HOW DO YOU MAKE IT EASY TOIOUS,

EASY TO UNDERSTAND? HOW DO YOU PAINT A PICTURE. >>> WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT CODES IN PARTICULARS PARTICULART TURNING THESE TURNING THEM SOMETHING ON THE GROUND WHERE THE PRIVATE SECTOR IS HOLDING HANDS WITH YOU TO TALK YOU TO WHERE THE MARK WANTS TO GO.

THAT GETS US REALLY EXCITED. WE DO TAKE A PHASED APPROACH TO THIS WE START WITH A INITIAL DIAGNOSTIC UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON WITH YOUR CODES, AND GO THROUGH A DRAFTING PROCESS AND BRING THIS INTO DIGESTIBLE MODULES NOT NICE FOR YOU TO BRING BIG CODE ON YOU AND WE LIKE TO FEED IT IN LITTLE BITS ALONG THE WAY AND HELP YOU THROUGH THE ADOPTION AND IMPLEMENTATION PROCESS. OUR WHOLE TEAM IS COMPRISED OF PEOPLE WHO WORK PUBLIC AND

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WE HAVE PROPOSED A 16-MONTH TIME FRAME FOR THIS BUT YOU'LL NOTICE THE CONTRACT IS 24 MONTHS.

WE DO THAT VERY INTENTIONALLY, BECAUSE, CODES ARE HARD AND WE WANT YOUR STAFF TO BE COMFORTABLE. WE WANT POLICYMAKERS LIKE Y'ALL TO BE COMFORTABLE ALONG THE WAY.

SO WE HAVE A DIAGNOSTIC PHASE, CODE DRAFTING AND ADOPTION AND TRAINING PACE TOWARDS THE END AND AN ADOPTION THAT THROUGH THIS WHOLE THING. FOR THE PUBLIC IT IS GOING BE EMPHASIZING HOW THEY EXPERIENCING YOUR SETTING NOW AND WHAT IS THEIR PREFERENCE? WE LIKE TO USE LOTS OF VISUALS FOR THIS. IT IS NOT NICE TO ASK THEM ABOUT DETAILS OF CODE. THE AVERAGE PERSON IS NOT REAL INTERESTED IN THE PROCESS FOR A REPLAT. THEY'RE INTERESTED IN THEIR EXPERIENCE.

BUT WE ALSO THINK ABOUT THOSE WHO ENGAGE, A LOT OF STAKEHOLDER IS.

SO WE'LL GO THROUGH THIS DIAGNOSTIC PHASE AND DO INTERVIEWS AND GO THROUGH AT IS AND DIFFERENT APPROACHES AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO MEASURE SUCCESS. SO WE'LL TAKE AN ISSUE STATEMENT, DEVELOPMENT ALTERNATIVES AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE NEED TO TEST THESE OR IF THEY NEED TO BE TESTED AND GO THROUGH THE CODE DRAFTING PROCESS AND IF SOMETHING WEIRD HAPPENS WE GO BACK AND CHECK ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE. WE DON'T WALK INTO THIS PRETENDING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE EVERY ANSWER FROM THE BEGINNING, BUT IT IS A REALLY EXCITING FRAMEWORK. WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT Y'ALL'S PHILOSOPHY HERE.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDRESSING THE Z WORD, ZONING AND THAT IS A SPACE THAT WE'RE VERY COMFORTABLE IN. WE WORK A LOT, LOT WITH JURISDICTIONS THAT ARE NOT INVOLVED WITH ZONING, PARTICULARLY COUNTIES THAT DON'T HAVE ZONING AUTHORITY.

AND URBAN COUNTIES WHERE THEY HAVE URBAN ISSUES BUT LACK THAT ZONING AUTHORITY.

SO WE UNDERSTAND HOW TO WORK WITH THESE DIFFERENT THINGS. ONE OF OUR FIRST THINGS IS GOING TO BE EDUCATING ON WHAT YOU DO AND DON USE OUT OF THAT CHAPTER OF THE CODE.

YOU DON'T NEED A ZONING MAP YOU SET GUARDRAILS EARLY ON. SO EVERYONE KNOWS THIS IS THE DESTINATION WE'RE HEADING TOWARDS AND WE'RE GOING STAY CONSISTENT WITH YOUR CULTURE AND MARKET. THAT IS IMPORTANT TO US. AT THE END OF THE DAY WE WANT DEVELOPERS AND OTHER DESIGN PROFESSIONALS STANDING HERE WITH US SAYING YES THIS IS GREAT WE LIKE THIS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS SAYING THE SAME THING THIS PROCESS IS AGAIN, WE DO THESE DRAFTS ALONG THE WAY WE HAVE A LOT OF CHECK-IN POINTS AND LOOKBACK LOOPS.

THEY'VE GOT THEIR DAY-TO-DAY WORK. WE DON'T WANT TO BECOME A BURDEN THROUGH THE CODE PROCESS, WE THINK ABOUT HOW WITH BREAK IT UP AND GET STAKEHOLDER VERSION ALONG THE WAY. WE WANT TO CIRCLEBACK TO THOSE ISSUES.

WE PLACE A REALLY HEAVY EMPHASIS ON GETTING AWAY FROM LEGALESE APOLOGY TO THE ATTORNEYS IN THE ROOM. AND FOCUS HEAVILY ON VISUALS TO COMMUNICATE, TABLES AND CHARTS AND THINGS THAT PEOPLE RESPOND TO WELL THAT THEY TEND TO UNDERSTAND WELL.

LIKE TO BE CONCISE AND INDIVIDUAL. WE LOVE TO CREATE THINGS LIKE CUT SHEETS SO EVERYTHING FROM A REGULATORY PER SPECTSIVE ON A 2-PAGE THING YOU CAN HAND SOMEBODY. WE LIKE TO MAKE IT THAT LEVEL OF AS AND TAKE YOU THROUGH THAT IMPLEMENTATION WE ALL COME FROM PLACES WHERE WE ADMINISTERED CODE SO WE BRING EMPATHY TO THAT PROCESS AND PROVIDE SUPPORTIVE TRAINING AND MAKE SURE THE FOLKS YOU WORK WITH THE MOST IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR ARE COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT THEY'RE SEEING AND TRY TO SET THEM UP FOR SUCCESS WITH THIS TOO. THAT IS WHAT CREATES A GREAT TRACK RECORD.

WHY WE'RE EXCITED TO BE HERE. WE DO BRING LOCAL EXPERIENCE HERE.

WE'RE CONFLICT-FREE. SO FREESE AND NICHOLS ARE TRUSTED CODE EXPERTS WITH A LOT OF GREAT EXPERIENCE AND WE BRING THAT 360 PERSPECTIVE SO WITH THAT, THERE IS QUESTIONS I'D

LOVE TO ANSWER THOSE. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. >> YOU SAID YOU'D DONE IT FOR 50

CITIES CAN YOU NAME SOME CITY. >> CITIES THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH CURRENTLY, GEORGETOWN, WE'VE WORKED WITH BUDA, BROWNSVILLE, WE ARE NOW ENGAGED FOR MCCOWAN, SAN MARCOS.

WE HAVE WORKED WITH LET'S SEE, MIDLOATHIAN, EL PASO, AND A FEW OTHERS, TOO, JUST OFF THE TOP OF MY AHEAD SOME WILL BE FULL UNIFIED SOME WILL BE ZONING, WORKED WITH PORT ARTHUR RIGHT

NOW, THAT IS ANOTHER FUN ONE. >> ANYBODY? I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU MISS

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SCOTT I'M HAPPY NOT TO BE GOT VERY CONFUSING VERY FAST. >>> DOES THAT MEAN WE'RE NOT ON

THE COMMITTEE ANYMORE. >> WE WANT A SUBCOMMITTEE COME PRICED OF PLANNERS AND COMMISSIONERS IT THE DELETE S IS TOO BIG OF A PROJECT TO TACKLE IN-HOUSE.

>> I'D BE HAPPY TO SERVE ON THE COMMITTEE. >> MY HEAD WAS SPINNING WHEN WE

STARTED THAT PROCESS. THANK YOU, MR. SPARKS. >> ARE WE READY FOR A POTION.

>>> YES. >>> I MOVE WE ADOPT THIS WHATEVER THIS ITEM.

ASK ITEM D2. >> MOTION AND A SECOND. FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPENS SAME SIGN.

[3. Appointment of Council member to the Victoria Sales Tax Development Co...]

ITEM CARRIES. >> MAYOR, ITEM D3 I'LL READ. IT IS THE APPOINTMENT OF COUNCIL MEMBER TO THE VICTORIA SALES TAX DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I HAVE A PRESENTATION PREPARED.

IT HAS ALL THE SAME INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE SEEN SEVERAL TIMES CONCERNING THE SALES TAX AND DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. SO -- WE DO HAVE TO GO THROUGH FIT YOU DON'T WANT TO.

>>> EVERYBODY FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THE SALS TAKES CORPORATION. >>> THESE ARE THE CURRENT MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, THE RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU TONIGHT WILL FILL THE COUNCIL MEMBER VACANCY ON THE SALES TAX BOARD OF DIRECTORS. SO THE UN, PECKED TERM WILL EXPIRE ON 2022. YOU NEED TO NOMINATE ONE OF THE OTHER FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS AND

VOTE ON THAT POSITION. >> NOMINATE. >> I SECOND THAT.

>>> ANY OTHER NOMINATION? >> ARE WE GOING TO ASK HIM IF HE'S WILLING?

>> HE DOESN'T GET A CHOICE. I TOLD HIM WE'RE GOING WAIT UNTIL HE MISSED HIS FIRST MEETING THEN LOAD HIM UP. THANK YOU FOR BEING WILLING TO SERVE MR. CROCKER, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. ALL IN FAVOR, THOSE OPENS, THANK YOU.

[4. Reappointing/Appointing three members to the Victoria Development Comm...]

DEM D4. >>> ITEM D4 IS A REAPPOINTING OR APPOINTING 3 MEMBERS OF THE VICTORIA DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION BOARD OF DIRECTORS. THAT IS MY ITEM AGAIN THIS PRESENTATION IS ONE MIKE AND I ACTUALLY PRESENTED LAST SUMMER IN 2020 CONCERNING ALL OF THE DIFFERENT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARDS AND THEIR USE TO ENHANCE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND ESPECIALLY THROUGH THE WITH THE 2035 PRESENCIVE PLAN AND IT IS IMPLEMENTATION.

SO I INCLUDED THE SAME PRESENTATION IN ORDER TO KIND OF RE-EDUCATE YOU GUYS ON THIS PARTICULAR BOARD SO WE COULD GO THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION AGAIN OR IF Y'ALL FEEL COMFORTABLE WE

COULD MOVE FORWARD THE VOTING PROCESS TO ELECT A NEW BOARD. >> WE'RE GOOD?

>> I'M GOOD. >>> YOU GOOD? >> A YOU GOOD WITH IT?

WITH. >> WE HAVE USINGED IT MR. CROCKER.

>> IT HAS BEEN DORMANT BUT WOULD HELP WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IF WE SHOULD NEED THIS SO IT IS

GOOD TO KEEP IT UP AND GOING. SO. >> IS THIS THE ONE A FIGHT TO

GET ON. >> THE BOARD IS COMPOSE ODD THREE MEMBERS AND THEY CAN BE REAPPOINTED, SO CURRENTLY MAYOR BALK KNIGHT AND OUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO GO AHEAD AND ELECT A NEW BOARD OR REAPPOINT THOSE IF THEY CHOOSE TO BE REAPPOINTED AND THEN MOVE FORWARD WITH AS WE ARE IN GOOD STANDING WITH THE SECRETARY OF STATE FOR UPDATING THOSE RECORDS

AND WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR USE IF NEEDED. >> ALL RIGHT.

>> I'M THROG BE REAPPOINTED. >> I'M WILLING TO BE REAPPOINTED.

>> LY AS WELL. ILL-I WILL AS MAY. >>> WE HAVE THE MAYOR, MAYOR

PRO-TEM AND COWFER COUNCIL MEMBER. >> THREE MOST TENURED.

>> WE FOUGHT TO GET ON THIS BECAUSE WE MEET ONCE A YEAR. >> GOT A MOTION.

>>> SEC. >> THANK YOU, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

>> AYE. >> THOSE OPPOSE SAME SIGN. >> GREAT.

[5. Authorize the City Manager to enter into a representation agreement wi...]

>> ITEM D5 I'LL READ IT, AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A REPRESENTATION

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EXCEED $75,000. >>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

>>> MR. GARZA SAID WE'RE MOVING WAY AHEAD OF SCHEDULE AND I CAN TAKE AS MUCH TIME AS I NEED TO.

I ACTUALLY WROTE THIS PRESENTATION EXPECTING IT TO MOVE VERY QUICKLY.

I REALLY HAVE VERY IT WILL TOLL GO OVER TONIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO START WITH THE CENSUS RESULTS THAT WERE JUST RELEASED IN THE LAST MONTH OR SO.

AND WE'RE GOING TO WIND UP TALKING ABOUT REDISTRICTING. THAT IS THE GOAL OF OUR PRESENTATION TONIGHT YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS BAR CHART SHOWING THE LAST THREE CENSUSES.

AND I WANT TO THANK JULIE FULGHAM AND COMPILING ALL THE DATA IN THIS PRESENTATION.

THEY'RE NUMBERS PEOPLE, I'M NOT. I'M GLAD TO HAVE THEM HERE. BUT YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE A STEADY GROWTH PACE SINCE 2000. 5% THE CURRENT LOOKING AT THAT DATA IT TELLS US THAT AT LEAST BY PRELIMINARY ANALYSIS THAT WE NEED TO BE CONSIDERING REDISTRICTING.

REDISTRICTING AS S AS YOU KNOW THE WAY WE PROTECT THE 1 PERSON 1 VOTE SYSTEM, BY REDRAWING THE POLITICAL LINES IN ORDER TONE SURE THE REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICTS HAVE EQUAL OR NEARLY EQUAL POPULATIONS. IT IS REQUIRED UNDER THE FEDERAL CONSTITUTION AND FEDERAL AND STATE LAW AND WE ALSO MUST MAKE SURE AND THIS IS THE MORE COMPLICATED PART OF THE ANALYSIS THAT THE LINES ON THE MAP DON'T HAVE THE BRIDGE THE RIGHT TO VOTE BASED ON THE BASIS OF RACE, COLOR, LANGUAGE GROUP AND OTHER CRITERIA. AND THE PROCESS IS VERY COMPLICATED. DISTRICT ONE HELDDY DELAGARZA, DISTRICT 2 SOLIZ, AND STARTING FROM THE TOP DISTRICT 3 WAYNE CROCKER AND DISTRICT 4 JAN SCOTT ARE ALL SINGLE-MEMBER DISTRICTS AND FOR THE PURPOSE TO TONIGHT'S CONVERSATION WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE SINGLE-MEMBER DISTRICTS NOT THE SUPER DISTRICTS. AS YOU KNOW, TWO RED DISTRICTS ON THE BOTTOM, THE SOUTHSIDE OF THE CITY ARE COMBINED TO CREATE SUPER DISTRICT 5 AND TWO GRAY DISTRICTS 3 AND 4 ARE COMBINED TO CREATE SUPER DISTRICT 6 BY COUNCIL MAN LOFGREN.

THE LINES WERE MOST RECENTLY DRAWN 10 YEARS AGO AFTER THE 2010 CENSUS.

WHAT WE HAVE TO DO NOW IS WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHETHER OR NOT THOSE LINES ACCURATELY DIVIDE THE CITY'S POPULATION SO THAT WE'RE PROTECTING ONE PERSON, ONE VOTE.

HERE IS HOW WE LOOK AT THE MATH. THERE IS A 10% THRESHOLD WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND.

STEP ONE AS YOU TAKE THE VOTING AGE POPULATION OF THE ENTIRE CITY.

YOU DIVIDE THAT NUMBER BY THE NUMBER OF REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICTS TO COME UP WITH THE IDEAL POPULATION OF EACH DISTRICT. SO YOU TAKE THE TOTAL CITY POPULATION. WE'RE LOOKING AT VOTING AGE POPULATION NOW THAT IS 49,113.

YOU DIVIDE THAT BY THE SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS THAT IS FOUR DISTRICTS DISTRICTS AND YOU GET AN IDEAL POPULATION OF 12,278. IN STEP TWO, WE TAKE EACH INDIVIDUAL DISTRICT'S POPULATION AND DIVIDE IT BY THAT IDEAL POPULATION IN ORDER TO FIND THE RELATIVE DEVEERATION FOR EACH DISTRICT. AND THEN WE EXPRESS THAT IN TERMS OF A PERCENTAGE. SO USING DISTRICT 1 AS AN EXAMPLE, THERE ARE 11,111 PEOPLE OF VOTING AGE IN DISTRICT 1. THAT IS NOT A TYPO, THAT IS ACTUALLY HOW IT TURNED OUT.

YOU DIVIDE THAT BY 12,278 WHICH IS OUR IDEAL POPULATION FOR EACH DISTRICT AND THAT RESULTS IN.

IN.0 -- 0.9049. YOU EXPRESS THAT IN TERMS OF A PERCENTAGE AND WE WOULD CALL THAT A NEGATIVE 5 -9.51 DEVEIATION. STEP 3 YOU TAKE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE LARGEST AND SMALLEST RELATIVE DEVEIATION AND THAT NUMBER BECOMES YOUR TOTAL MAXIMUM DEVEIATION. FOR THE CITY AND THAT NUMBER, THE TMD CANNOT EXCEED 10%.

CONGRESS HERE IS HOW IT PLAYS OUTING YOU LOOK AT THE INDIVIDUAL VOTING AGE POPULATION

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IN ORDER TO FIND THE TOTAL MAXIMUM DEVIATION YOU'RE COMPARING THOSE TWO NUMBERS AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO NUMBERS IS 29.65%. AND EVEN I CAN DO THE MATH TO SAY THAT IS HIGHER THAN 10%. OKAY. SO THAT IS WHAT I MEAN WHEN I SAY WE'VE DONE THE PRELIMINARY ANALYSIS AND IT SHOWS THAT WE DO NEED TO REDISTRICT.

I STARTED OFF ALSO BY SAYING IT IS A COMPLICATED PROCESS, AND I AM RECOMMENDING THAT WE HIRE AN OUTSIDE FIRM TO LEAD US THROUGH THE PROCESS OF ACTUALLY DOING THE REDISTRICTING.

I'M RECOMMENDING THE BOJORQUEZ LAW FIRM, THE MANAGING ATTORNEY FOR THAT FIRM THEY ARE ONE OF THE LEADING MUNICIPAL FIRMS IN THE STATE. THEY HAVE 26 LAWYERS IN EIGHT OFFICES AROUND THE STATE. THEY REPRESENT 170+ CITIES AND OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENT CLIENTS.

THEY HAVE DONE REDISTRICTING IN THE PAST FOR 19 CITIES, INCLUDING ARLINGTON, BEAUMONT, DENTON, EL PASO, AND SEVERAL SMALLER ONES AS WELL. IF YOU WERE TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION TONIGHT TO HIRE THAT FIRM, WE WOULD BE WORKING PRIME MARELY WITH REZZIN PULLUM AND WORKING WITH THEIR DEMOGRAPHER JEREMY MCMAYAN WE GET DOWN TO FILES AND I HAVE VOTING PRECINCTS AND ALL OF THE THINGS HAVE TO WORK OUT MATH-WISE. AND SO IT IS AN EXTENSIVE PROCESS WE ARE ALSO UNFORTUNATELY DEALING WITH A COMPRESSED TIMELINE.

THE DEADLINE TO GET ALL OF THIS DONE IS 90 DAYS BEFORE OUR NEXT ELECTION.

THAT MEANS THIS HAS TO BE FINALIZED BY FEBRUARY 1. IF WE APPROVE THE RESOLUTION TONIGHT, THEN DURING THE MONTH OF OCTOBER, WE WILL HAVE THE BOJORQUEZ FIRM WITH US AT BOTH OF OUR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, FIRST TO DO BASIC TRAINING COVERING THE LAW AND BEST PRACTICES AND ON OCTOBER 19TH THEY WOULD BRING IN THEIR FORMAL INITIAL ASSESSMENT REPORT. THAT WILL BE ON FIRM LETTERHEAD. THAT WILL BE THE REPORT THAT SAYS YES YOU DO OR NO YOU DO NOT NEED TO REDISTRICT OUR BOUNDARIES.

WE CAN RELY ON THAT LETTER GOING FORWARD. AND OBVIOUSLY WE EXPECT TO SAY WE NEED TO REDISTRICT. SO DURING THE MONTHS OF NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER, THERE WERE A LOT OF ITEMS LISTED THERE THAT NEED TO HAPPEN. I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND TONIGHT THAT YOU CONSIDER APPOINTED A COMMITTEE TO RUN THIS PROCESS AND TO BRING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS BACK TO COUNCIL SO THAT COUNCIL AS A WHOLE IS CONSIDERING THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE INDIVIDUAL DECISIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE. WITHOUT NECESSARILY HAVING TO BE AT EVERY ONE OF THOSE MEETINGS THAT IS GOING TO BE TAKING PLACE IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER.

IF COUNCIL AS A WHOLE HAS TO DO THAT IT WILL REQUIRE US TO CALL MANY SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS IN ORDER TO MEET THE DEADLINE WE HAVE TO MEET IN FEBRUARY.

SO IT IS MY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE CONSIDER WHAT SOME COMMUNITIES CALL A TASK FORCE OR WE CAN CALL SIMPLY A REDISTRICTING COMMITTEE. THAT COULD EITHER BE A SUBCOMMITTEE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS OR COULD BE A CITIZEN-APPOINTED COMMITTEE.

SIMILAR TO WHAT IS CURRENTLY BEING RUN FOR THE CHARTER REEXAMINATION.

SO THAT IS MY RECOMMENDATION TONIGHT IS THAT WE LOOK AT AN INDIVIDUAL COMMITTEE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. THAT'S MY COMMENTATION TONIGHT ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION JUST THOUGHT OF YOU WHEN YOU SAID IT. THE PRECINCTS CAN'T BE SPLIT

BETWEEN PART OF IT AND DISTRICT 1 OR DISTRICT 2 OR CAN THEY? >> I BELIEVE YOU'RE CORRECT THAT THAT YOU HAVE TO REDRAW THE LINES ALONG THE VOTING PRECINCTS.

ALSO, WE HAVE HISTORICALLY MADE SURE OUR VOTING PRECINCTS LINE UP WITH THE COUNTY'S VOTING PRECINCTS. AND SO THERE IS A LOT OF COORDINATION WORK THAT HAS TO

HAPPEN IS THERE AN IDEAL SIZE FOR EACH VOTING PRECIRCUIT? >> THAT IS A WOOD GET, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO. I RECOMMEND WE HIRE AN OUTSIDE FIRM.

I NOTICE IF YOU GO THROUGH THE PRECINCTS THEY'RE NOT ALL THERE WE DON'T HAVE 33.

>>> NOT WITHIN THE CITY POLICE DEPARTMENTS DELETE S THE CITY LIMITS.

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>> NOT JUST THAT, SOME ARE HUGE AND SOME ARE REALLY SMALL. >> GEOGRAPHICALLY.

>> GEOGRAPHICALLY AND VOTER-WISE. I'M CURIOUS TO SEE HOW THIS DEVELOPS LIKE DISTRICT 3, FOR EXAMPLE, HAS A FEW PRECINCTS AND THEY'RE ALL PRETTY BIG.

>> ASSUMING YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO APPROVE THIS RESOLUTION THIS EVENING, I WILL MAKE SURE THAT I

PASS THAT QUESTION ALONG. >> THOMAS, WHO DID WE USE IN 2010?

DID WE USE ANYBODY? >> WE USED ALLISON BASS THE FIRM OUT OF AUSTIN THEY REPRESENT PRIMARILY COUNTIES AND WE USE THEM BECAUSE THE COUNTY HAD HIRED THEM TO DO THEIR REDISTRICTING. THERE ARE COUPLE OF REASONS I'M RECOMMENDING SOMETHING DIFFERENT THIS YEAR. THE FIRST THE ALLISON BASS DEALS PRIMARY WITH COUNTIES AND THAT IS THEIR PRIMARY FOCUS. THE SECOND REASON IS BECAUSE OUR TIMELINE IS MUCH SHORTER THAN THE COUNTY'S TIMELINE. AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE COUNTY'S DEADLINE IS ALSO 90 DAYS BEFORE THEIR NEXT ELECTION BUT THEIR NEXT ELECTION ISN'T UNTIL NOVEMBER.

THEIR DEADLINE IS DIFFERENT THAN OURS IS JO THEY HAVE PRIMARY. >>> THEY DO HAVE PRIMARIES AND QUITE A BIT OF DISCUSSION AT THE STRAIT LEVEL RIGHT NOW ABOUT HOW TO HANDLE THAT.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT DECISION HAS BEEN MADE YESTERDAY. >> SO IF THEY PUSH PRIMARIES TO JUNE THEIR DEADLINE WILL STILL BE AFTER OFFER DEADLINE. THINGS DON LINE UP QUITE THE WAY

THEY NORMALLY WOULD. >> SO WE'RE HAVING OUR. >> REDISTRICTING.

>> REDISTRICTING SEPARATE FROM -- OR DOES IT HAVE TO COINCIDE WITH THE COUNTY.

>> IT DOES NOT HAVE TO COEN SIDE, WE HISTORICALLY HAVE DONE THAT.

ONE OF THE FIRST STEPS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE ASKED TO CONSIDER IS WHAT DOES AN IDEAL MAP LOOK LIKE? AND THE COMMITTEE, THE PROFESSIONALS ARE GOING TO BE TAKING YOUR ADVICE ABOUT WHAT THEY SHOULD BE TRYING TO DRAW. AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WILL BE, DO YOU WANT TO LINE UP YOUR LINES THE SAME WAY THE COUNTY LINES ARE DRAWN UP? THE SAME WAY THE CITY COUNCIL LINES ARE DRAWN UP. ONE TYPICAL CONCERN IN THAT INITIAL ASSESSMENT OR THAT INITIAL GUIDELINE IS WE WANT TO DRAW OUR MAPS TO MAKE SURE THAT NONE OF OUR SITTING COUNCIL MEMBERS GET DISPLACED FROM THEIR DISTRICT.

THAT IS AN ACCEPTABLE CONSIDERATION TO LOOK AND MAKE SURE OUR CURRENT CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS STAY IN THEIR DISTRICT AND WE DON'T REDRAW SOMEBODY OUT SO THEY'RE NO LONGER IN THEIR

SEAT. >> DOES THAT MEAN THEY TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION OF WHERE WE LIVE?

>> THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S RIGHT. THAT IS THE QUESTION THEY WILL ASK YOU DO YOU WANT THEM TO CONSIDER THAT AND MOST COMMUNITIES THE ANSWER IS QUESTION DELETE S YES.

>> THE PRECINCTS NOT TALKING ABOUT INTERESTING HE PRECINCT LINES, IT IS JUST WHICH

PRIVILEGE PRECINCTS ARE IN WHICH DISTRICTS IS THAT ACCURATE? >> THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING, YES. WHEN YOU SAY PRECINCT YOU MEAN VOTING PRECINCT NOT COUNTY

COMMISSIONER PRECINCT. >> CORRECT. >> YOU DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING

TO BE REDRAWING PRECINCT LINES? >> IS THAT A POSSIBILITY TO DO IS REDRAW PRECINCT LINES.

>> I'M NOT SURE OF THE ANSWER AND I DON'T WANT TO MISSPEAK TONIGHT.

>> WOULD Y'ALL LIKE TO DO A COMMITTEE OF THREE OF US OR Y'ALL RATHER HAVE PUBLIC?

>> I THINK IS BIG ENOUGH ISSUE PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WANT AND NEED TO BE INVOLVED.

THIS IS A BIG ISSUE FOR THE CITY. >> IF WE DO THE PUBLIC DO YOU

WANT LARGER THAN THE THREE WE WOULD HAVE DONE WITH COUNCIL. >>> IT CAN ALSO BE A MIX.

>> AND I THINK THAT IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM AT LEAST THE FOUR SINGLE DISTRICTS SO THAT THE ENTIRE CITY IS COVERED, I THINK THAT IS ONE WAY TO LOOK AT IT JUST TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE SPREAD AROUND THE COMMUNITY BUT IT IS ALSO AN EQUALLY VALID IDEA DO HAVE A ONE MEMBER FROM EACH DISTRICT AND HAVE 7 MEMBERS ON THE DISTRICT MUCH LIKE WE HAVE FOR OUR CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE. IN FACT THAT MAY BE THE BEST WAY TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S

INTERESTS ARE REPRESENTED. >> OR LET THE SUPER DISTRICT FOLKS FIGURE IT OUT FOR

EVERYBODY. >> BECAUSE THEY DON'T CARE WHERE THE LINES ARE AS MUCH AS THE

SINGLE DISTRICT PEOPLE DO. >>> I MEAN I PERSONALLY DON'T THINK I SHOULD BECAUSE IF I

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>> OR JUST HAVE THE FOUR SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS APPOINT SOMEBODY.

>>> I LIKE THAT IDEA. >>> AND MAYBE AND THE MAYOR. >> YEAH LIKE WE DID FOR THE.

>> A COMMITTEE OF FIVE, THEN. >> COMMITTEE OF FIVE. >>> AND DRINKS 1 THROUGH 4 WILL

PICK REPRESENTATIVE AND I'LL PICK ONE. >> AND I THINK I HEARD A WILLINGNESS TO ALLOW MEMBERS TO CHOOSE ON THE COMMITTEE IF THEY DESIRE.

AND WE NEED THOSE NAMES IN. >> IF YOU CAN GET THOSE NAMES TO ME AND LET THEM KNOW, OBVIOUSLY SO THEY CAN ATTEND THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING ON OCTOBER 5TH WHEN WE HAVE THE INITIAL TRAINING SESSION, THAT WOULD HELP MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO DUPLICATE THAT TRAINING

FOR THE COMMITTEE ITSELF. >> CAN YOU KIND OF REPEAT WHAT YOU ENVISION THE WORKLOAD OR THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THAT COMMITTEE TO BE IN TERMS -- I DON'T WANT TO ASK SOMEBODY WHO IS AND NOT TELL THEM YOU'RE GOING HAVE TO GO DO TWO MEETINGS A WEEK OR WHATEVER IT IS GOING TURN OUT TO

BE. >> YES, MA'AM, AND I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE HOW MANY MEETINGS THAT WILL BE INVOLVED BUT WORK THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN THE IS COUNCIL HERE WILL NEED TO CONSIDER WHAT IS NECESSARY FOR AND THE DEMOGRAPHER WILL GO OUT AND CONSIDER ILL LUST EXTRA ACTIVE MAPS AND COMPARE IT TO THE CENSUS DATA TO MAKE SURE ALL THE CRITERIA ARE BEING MET AND THEN THE FIRM RECOMMENDS THAT WE HAVE SOME COMMUNITY FEEDBACK SESSIONS AS WELL.

OR THE COMMUNITY GETS TO COME IN AND GIVE FEEDBACK ABOUT WHAT THE MAPS SHOULD LOOK LIKE AND THEN FINALLY THAT COMMITTEE WOULD MAKE A REPORT BACK HERE TO COUNCIL FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER ADOPTING THOSE MAPS. SO WE'RE PROBABLY TALKING ABOUT 2 TO 3 TO 4 MEETINGS DURING THAT

TIME PERIOD. >> THANK YOU. >> SO WE STILL NEED A MOTION.

>>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> MOTION AND A SECOND ON ITEM

D5 TO APPROVE ALL IN FAVOR AAYE. >> THOSE OPPOSE SAME SIGN. >> THANK YOU.

>> I'M GOING TO OPEN UP CITY COMMUNICATION AGAIN. WE HAVE A GENTLEMAN THAT WAS LATE. IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK THAT WOULD BE GREAT AND REMIND YOU, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES IN THE INTEREST OF TIME. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR AND I REALLY, REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT. I KNOW YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT. MY NAME IS BOB COLEMAN, MY WIFE AND I MOVED HERE FROM CALIFORNIA FOUR YEARS AGO. WE WENT LOOKING FOR BEST TOWN IN AMERICA TO RETIRE TO AND WE FOUND IT. WE LOVE THIS PLACE. WE SERIOUSLY LOVE THIS PLACE.

AND I'D GIVE YOU A LIST OF REASONS BUT DON HAVE TIME FOR THAT NOW.

WHAT WE ARE WORRIED ABOUT IS THAT MY I'M EX-MILITARY AND I HAVE BEEN ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, THE WORLD AND I'VE NEVER SEEN A MUNICIPALITY SAY HOW MANY PETS YOU CAN HAVE.

I'M A PET GUY, I'VE BEEN SHOT AT IN COMBAT, BUT I'M A PET LOVER. JUDGE ME ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

I'M A WEST POINT GRADUATE AND I'VE SEEN A LOT OF THINGS AND I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO TELL ME HOW MANY PETS I CAN HAVE. I HAD HEART SURGERY WHEN WE WERE STILL IN CALIFORNIA BACK IN 2014, AND MY CATS THEY COMFORTED ME WHEN I COULDN'T MOVE.

MY WIFE SPENT LAST YEAR IN THIS WONDERFUL MEDICAL FACILITIES YOU HAVE HERE IN THIS TOWN,ETH BEATING CANCER. AND I OUR CATS HELPED HER THROUGH THAT.

NOW I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU'RE DOING THIS, OUR CATS ARE INSIDE CATS, WE NEVER LET THEM OUT.

THERE ARE CARS AND FLEAS AND TICKS AND NOW THE GOVERNMENT OUT THERE THAT IS GOING THREATEN THEM. AND IT IS JUST NOT RIGHT. SO WE NEVER LET THEM OUT.

OUR NEIGHBORS DON KNOW WE HAVE CATS WE HAVE 7, I'LL ADMIT IT. AND THERE IS ABBOTT AND COSTELLO ARE OUR FIRST CATS AND LAVERNE AND SHIRLEY WHO CAME ON AFTER THAT.

YOU KNOW, WE LOVE THESE GUYS AND GALS AND DON'T UNDERSTAND NOBODY HAS EVER ARTICULATED HOW TAKING CATS, TAKING OUR HEART FROM US IS GOING TO STEP DELETE S TO HELP ANYTHING IN VICTORIA.

VICTORIA DOESN'T NEAT A ALTHOUGP AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED THIS IS A GREAT TOWN.

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THAT IS OBTAIN ALL I HAVE TO SAY. I JUST WANTED TO VOICE THE FACT THAT, I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG. MY CATS DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG. SO WHY YOU DOING THIS? THERE IS NO CATS MAKING DISEASES OTHER THAN CASTLE HILL AND IT IS A NICE PLACE AND NOBODY IS MAKING A MESS, I JUST URGE YOU, TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR REASON LISTENING TO ME.

I KNOW YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO. >>> YOU'RE WELCOME AND THANK YOU, WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS AND I THINK YOU'LL BE PLEASED WITH THE PROGRESS WE'RE MAKING ON THAT.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> SURE. >> THIS TIME I'M GOING TO CLOSE

[1. Downtown Master Plan Overview. Danielle Williams, Executive Director o...]

YEAH. >>> LY TURN OVER TO DANIELLE WILLIAMS TO INTRODUCE THE TOPIC.

SHE'S DONE A GREAT JOB SPEARHEADING THE PROJECT. SO I'M SURE SHE'S EXCITED ABOUT

IT. >> THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. TONIGHT I HAVE WITH ME A COUPLE OF FOLKS THAT WILL HELP ALONG THE WAY, CHANCE SPARKS WHO IS THE PROJECT MANAGER WITH FREESE AND NICHOLS AND I ALSO HAVE TRAVIS JAMES WHO WILL GO OVER THE MARKET ANALYSIS AND FINANCIAL INCENTIVE PACKAGE THAT HOPEFULLY WE CAN CREATE LATER DOWN THE ROAD. I'LL HAND IT OVER TO THESE GUYS.

>> ALREADY, THANK YOU, DANIELLE, HELP HAPPY TO BE BACK HERE AGAIN AND HAPPY TO BE REPORTING ON THE DOWNTOWN PROCESS THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON. EVERYONE HAS BEEN SAYING THEY'VE BEEN PREPARING THESE PRESENTS TO BE SHORT AND QUICK. THERE IS NO QUICK WAY TO TELL THE STORY OF DOWNTOWN, UNFORTUNATELY. WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO BE EFFICIENT WITH THIS. BUT ALSO, WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU GOT GREAT OPPORTUNITIES ASK QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, THINGS LIKE THAT ALONG THE WAY. SO THIS WAS BUILDING UPON OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. YOU MAY RECALL SOME OF THE KEY THINGS OUT OF THAT IS EMPHASIZING DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION, SOME FOLLOW-UP PLANS FROM THAT I INCLUDE A FISCAL ANALYSIS THAT WAS PREPARED BYVER DUNEITI THAT APPOINTED OUT YOUR DOWNTOWN AREA IS YOUR HIGHEST FISCAL RETURN. THAT IS WHY WE'RE EVEN DOING THIS PLAN REALLY IS THIS IS THE PLACE THAT IS GETTING YOUR BEST BANG FOR THE BUCK. SO LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, CRUISING WITH, THAT BUT CAN WE MAKE IT STRONGER AS WE GO FORWARD.

WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME REVITALIZATION APPROACHES. >> IF I DELETE S CAN INTERJECT QUICKLY, EVEN LOOKING AT THE REDISTRICTING PROCESS RIGHT, CLEARLY NO SURPRISE, OUR COMMUNITY IS GROWING TO THE NORTH AND EVEN MORE OF A REASON WHY WE NEED TO BE MORE ENGAGED AND INVOLVED IN CREATING BETTER BALANCE THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY AND DOWNTOWN PLAYS A KEY ROLE IN

THAT AS WELL. >>> WHEN YOU SEE THIS PLAN DOCUMENT YOU'RE GOING SEE FIVE PIECE, SNAP SHOP, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, VISION AND GOALS, THE MASTER PLAN ITSELF, AND IMPLEMENTATION, CAPITOL PROGRAM. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS, ESPECIALLY IMPLEMENTATION, WE THINK ABOUT BIG PICTURE PROJECTS BUT ALSO LITTLE THINGS YOU CAN DO ALONG THE WAY AND WE LIKE TO BALANCE IT IN BOTH DIRECTIONS. FIRST STEP IS REDINING YOUR STUDY AREA.

IF YOU'RE TRYING TO CREATE SOME MOMENTUM, YOU'VE GOT HAVE A LOT OF FOCUS.

SO WE TOOK THE LARGER STUDY -- STUDY AREA AND DEFINED THIS CORE AREA WHERE WE SEE THE MOST ACTIVITY, WHERE IT IS THE MOST WALK AUTOMOBILE. AND AND BUILD FROM THAT.

FROM THERE WE BUILT AN ENGAGEMENT PLAN, WEBSITE, OUTSTANDING ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THIS THAT BILL OFF OF YOUR ADVISORY BOARD AND TON OF INCIDENTAL STAKEHOLDER MEETING.

WHAT TENDED TO HAPPEN IS TRAVIS AND I WILL WOULD COME DOWN HERE FOR ONE THING AND THEN WE WOULD CATCH THREE OR FOUR STAKEHOLDERS WHILE WE WERE HERE ALONG THE WAY.

AND THAT REALLY GOT US GREAT CONVERSATIONS AND WE'LL TO MEET PEOPLE IN THEIR OWN SPACES WHICH IS NICE. A BEST WAY TO ENGAGE PEOPLE OVERALL GREAT PUBLIC EVENTS.

MOST RECENT BEING THE ART WALK, BUT BEFORE THAT IN MARCH THE BIG MARKET DAY THAT WAS DONE THERE.

THAT WAS WE HAD A GREAT TIME, WE ENJOYED TALKING TO PEOPLE AND GOT GREAT INFORMATION, TONS OF PARTICIPATION. SAW LOTS OF EMPHASIS ON THIS ON PUBLIC SPACES.

TOURISM, ALSO CAVEAT THAT BY SAYING PEOPLE WERE INTERESTED IN TOURISM, BUT THEY WERE INTERESTED IN SERVING LOCALS FIRST. YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR THAT A COUPLE OF TIMES TODAY ARAND CULTURE AND HOUSING HOUSING IS ONE OF THOSE OVERLOOKED THINGS

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THAT MEANS YOU'RE GOING HAVE TO BE PRO ACTIVE IN HOW YOU CREATE DEMAND.

CREATE LOCAL DEMAND AND ATTRACTIVE DISMANNED YOU HAVE SOME SOMETHINGS THAT WILL BE THE ENVY OF DOWNTOWN. STABLE DAYTIME EMPLOYMENT BASE, THAT IS HUGE.

THAT IS USUALLY THE HARDEST THING TO SOLVE. YOU ARE GETTING TO SOLVE THE FUN THING WHICH IS HOW DO YOU CREATE AN ENTERTAINMENT AND NIGHTLIFE PERSPECTIVE IN DOWNTOWN.

AND RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS WILL PLAY A ROLE AND INCREASING TOURISM IS IMMEDIATE OPPORTUNITY. YOU HAVE TREMENDOUS CULTURAL ASSETS HERE.

I HAVE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT WHAT YOUR CAP THAT, SAW THIS INTEREST IN FOCUSING ON RETAIL, RESTAURANTS AND ENTERTAINMENT. RESIDENTS AND VISITORS. QUALITY HIGH SPEED BROADBAND WILL BE A BIG PART OF THE ECONOMIC EQUATION IN DOWNTOWN AND THEN NEW INFLUENTIAL PROJECT AND NEED NUMBER INITIAL FINANCIAL SUPPORT TO GET THOSE PASSED THE PIONEERING STAGE AND YOU ALSO HAVE A LOT OF PUBLICLY OWNED PROPERTY. IF YOU CAN BRING LAND TO A CONVERSATION THAT CHANGES THE RICK FRAMEWORK FOR DEVELOPMENT. LET'S TALK ABOUT THE ILLUSTRATIVE PLANS. SO WE STARTED THIS OFF WITH A CHARACTER AREA MAP.

THIS IS INTERESTING BECAUSE YOU DO NOT HAVE TRADITIONAL ZONING. IT IS NICE FOR A DOWNTOWN BECAUSE DOWNTOWN IS DEVELOPED BEFORE ZONING WAS A WORD. AND SO WE GET TO SEE THIS ORGANIC FRAMEWORK. TALKING OBTAIN STRENGTHENING YOUR CORE AREA AROUND DELEON PLAZA, TRANSITION AREA FOR GROWTH AND NEW OPPORTUNITIES AND THENTYING ABOUT HOW YOU PRESERVE AND PROTECT TRADITIONAL AREAS TO SURROUND SO PEOPLE CONTINUE TO BE COMFORTABLE IN THIS SPACE AND BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION FROM THERE WE IDENTIFY THE TRANSFORMATIVE OUTCOMES WE'RE SEEKING AND WHAT THOSE ACTIONS WILL BE TO GET YOU THERE. YOU SEE THIS BROKEN DOWN INTO DIFFERENT TYPES OF USES AGAIN THERE IS NOT A ZONING MAP AT ALL.

THIS IS SIMPLY IDENTIFYING WHAT WE THINK MAKES SENSE. YOU'LL SEE A COUPLE OF INTERESTING THINGS ON HERE INCLUDING TARGETED UPPER FLOOR ACTIVATION.

BASICALLY A BUNCH OF SECOND FLOORS AND THIRD FLOORS THAT ARE GOING LARGELY UNUSED OR UNDERUSED THOSE ARE HUGE OPPORTUNITIES IN YOUR DOWNTOWN AND THEN THINKING ABOUT SOME INFILL OPPORTUNITIES. YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR US TALK OBTAIN SPECIFIC USES ON SITES FOR EXAMPLE TALK ABOUT A HOTEL, FOR EXAMPLE. SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE HERE IS YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE IS NOT A WHOLE LOT OF NEW BUILDINGS. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DOWNTOWN PLANNING WORK WITH WHAT YOU HAVE, DON'T TEAR THINGS DOWN USE THEM, MAKE THEM SOMETHING INTERESTING AND ING CITING LOTS OF GAPS, GAPS IN THE TEETH SPOAT THAT ARE GREAT OPPORTUNITY BUT YOU HAVE A LOT OF VAI CAN SPACES THAT YOU WORK WITH THAT WILL LENDING THEMSELVES TO INTERESTING EXPERIENCES. WE HAVE LOOKED AT PRIMARY CORRIDORS FOR STREET SCAPES THIS IS LIKE WHAT YOU HAVE ON MAIN STREET NOW WITH NICE BRICK SIDEWALKS THAT IS WHAT WE WOULD CALL A HIGH END-TYPE OF PEDESTRIAN ENVIRONMENT. WE WANT TO SEE CONTINUE THROUGHOUT THE SPINE OF DOWNDOWN AND A PIECE OF BRIDGE STREET THERE AND CROSS STREETS IF YOU HAVE GREAT AWNINGS THE NAME OF THE GAME HERE IS SHADE, YOU NEED SHADE IN YOUR DOWNTOWN.

AND REALLY MAKING IT REALLY COMFORTABLE ENVIRONMENT WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO BE.

YOUR SECONDARY CORRIDORS, THESE CHANGE JUST SLIGHTLY. AND YOU HAVE BRICK AT THE INTERSECTION AND CONCRETE FOR THE REST, THINGS LIKE THAT, LITTLE BIT LESS EXPENSIVE, AND ALSO SOMETIMES EASIER TO INSTALL IN A LOT OF CASES AND SO THESE ARE USUALLY YOUR OTHER SEE CROSS STREETS THAT REACH OUT TO MOODY AND THAT VERYRO AND NORTHWARD TOWARDS 700 MAIN.

YOU WANT STREET TREES WHERE POSSIBLE, NICE TREATMENTS MAKE IT A NICE EXPERIENCE.

PEOPLE ASK US WHAT GOES INTO MAKING A GOOD STREETSCAPE, JUST MACH IT NICE THAT YOU WOULD ENJOY WALKING IN WE LOOK AT PLACES LIKE MOODY AND FIVE POINTS AND STUDIES INCLUDED WITHIN YOUR TRANSPORTATION PLAN, SO WE TOOK THOSE AND APPLIED THOSE WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN PLAN CONTEXT FOR HOW DO YOU MAKE FIVE POINTS WORK IN A WAY THAT BENEFITS THE DOWNTOWN?

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WE THINK ABOUT YOUR GATEWAYS AND HOW YOU SHOW PEOPLE, HEY, MAKE THE TURN INTO DOWNTOWN.

WE HAVE PRIMARY ONCE, YOUR BIG ONCE, RIO GRANDE AT MAIN AND SOUTH ON MOODY AND SECOND ONE ARE TYPICAL CROSS STREETS YOU USE ON TYPICAL BASIS TO ACCESS DOWNTOWN.

GETTING SPECIFIC CATALYSTS, WE'LL TELL YOU THESE ARE LETTERED AND IN THE NUMBERED BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT IN ORDER OF IMPORTANCE PERHAPS EXCEPT FOR THIS ONE THE MAIN STREET ENTRY FROM RIO GRANDE IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR Y'ALL. A KEY GATEWAY, FIRST IMPRESSION OF DOWNTOWN. IT IS ALSO WHERE WE SEE ROADWAYS IN SOME OF THE WORST CONDITIONS.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE HEARD FROM PEOPLE OVER AND OVER IS FIX THE STREETS.

AND THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. IT IS THAT MAIN CORRIDOR IN AND HELP PROMPT ACTIVATION OF PROJECTS. SUCH AS MAJOR A MIXED-USE PROJECT THERE. AND THIS IS ALSO SOMETHING TO LOOK AT FOR OTHER GRANTS, YOU KNOW, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ADMINISTRATION GRANTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT MAKES A GREAT CANDIDATE FOR THAT TYPE OF THING AND THINKING ABOUT WHAT DOES 700 MAIN STREET LIKE SMALL CHANGES IT CAN BE DRESSED UP AND PROMPT AN ADJACENT PROPERTY TO TRANSITION INTO A DIFFERENT USE, THAT TYPE OF THING. THAT IS WHAT THESE CATALYST-TYPE PROJECTS ARE INTENDED TO DO WE LOOK AT MITCHELL SCHOOL AREA AND THINK MITCHELL SCHOOL IS REALLY EXCITING, WE SEE OPPORTUNITIES FOR CULTURAL SPACE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND COULD ALMOST BE ANYTHING, IT IS A BIG SIGHT.

WE THOUGHT HOW MANY FEW PEOPLE SEEMED AWARE, THAT HAS GREAT HISTORY, WHAT WE SEE HERE IS ENHANCING THAT HISTORY AND MAKING IT LIKE A MEDITATIVE-TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT.

NEEDS TO BE RESPECTFUL OF WHAT IS GOING ON THERE. ONE OF OUR FIRST RECOMMENDATION GROUND PENETRATING VICTORIA HAS GREAT HISTORY. THE ONLY CITY THAT WAS ESTABLISHED UNDER MEXICO CAN LAWS. THAT IS REALLY INTERESTING AND SOMETHING YOU SHOULD BE EXCITED ABOUT. WE THINK ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES FO-

>> CAN I DISRUPT YOU FOR A SECOND. >>> ON YOUR PREVIOUS SLIDE THE

MITCHELL SCHOOL, THAT IS NOT A CITY BUILDING, CORRECT? >> CORRECT.

>> I'VE HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE ASK ME, I THINK TO SOME EXTENT NOT UNDERSTANDING THIS IS A VISION THIS IS A DREAM, BUT THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE CITY INTENDS TO CONDEMN A BUILDING THAT IS NOT THE CITY'S BUILDING JUST BECAUSE THE PICTURE IS IN THE PLAN.

>> CORRECT. >> I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE YOU CONFIRM THAT.

>>> THAT IS DEFINITELY THE CASE. THIS IS NOT OWNED BY THE CITY. THIS IS A VISION.

WHAT YOU MIGHT SEE HAPPEN IS MAYBE THAT THE CITY THINKS ABOUT WHAT TYPES OF INCENTIVES THAT WOULD LEAD TOWARDS AN OUTCOME OR SIMPLY SENDING A MESSAGE TO FOLKS THAT MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN THE SITE, THESE ARE IDEAS THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS BROUGHT THAT THEY ARE EXCITED ABOUT AND THAT CAN USUALLY HELP THE PROJECT FUNDING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

>> AND IT ALSO HELPS SEND THE MESSAGE THAT HAVING A MORE ROBUST REVISALLIZED DOWNTOWN ISN'T JUST ON US THIS IS REALLY GOING TO NECESSITATE SUPPORTING COLLABORATION FROM OTHER GOVERNMENT ENTITIES WHETHER THE COUNTY OR SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE PRIVATE SECTOR, AND SO IT ALSO HELPS SEND THE THAT MESSAGE, HEY, SCHOOL DISTRICT THIS COULD BE SOMETHING YOU COULD HELP US ACHIEVE IF YOU SUPPORT THE PLAN AND YOU'LL NOTICE FUTURE SLIDES THAT WE ALSO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON COUNTY-OWNED PROPERTY AS WELL IT REALLY HELPS GET MORE FOLKS INVOLVED.

>>> ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT MESSAGES IS YOU DON'T NEED TO GO IT ALONE ON THIS IN ANY CASE AND YOU PROBABLY SHOULDN'T LOOKING AT SITE E WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH DIFFICULT LOCATIONS LIKE RAILROAD, THOSE CAN BE GREAT COUNTRIES, YOU HEARD US REFERENCE THE ARTIES SOME WORK WITH VERY LARGE MEDIA YOU THINGS LIKE WOOD WORKING STUDIOS CAN BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, WELDING

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THEMSELVES ON A SMALL-SCALE MANUFACTURING SPACE. >>> LIBRARY DEVELOPMENT, THINKING ABOUT THE LIBRARY. IT IS YOUR BIGGEST ATTRACTIVE THING FOR RESIDENTS HOW CAMP YOU BRING THAT OUTSIDE AND, LOOKING AT SOME TYPE OF RETAIL COMPONENT TO THIS, A COFFEE BEVERAGE TYPE OF SPACE, A SMALL OUTDOOR PERFORMANCE SPACE. THINK ABOUT THE PROGRAMMING YOUR LIBRARY DOES NOW. WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF YOU BROUGHT THAT OUTSIDE? AND HOW WOULD PEOPLE INTERACT AND EXPERIENCE THAT? AND WE LIKE TO PROVIDE THE VISUAL WHAT COULD THAT BE LIKE FOR Y'ALL GOING FORWARD? WE THINK ABOUT THE JAIRCHGHTSY IN THE THEATER PEOPLE HAVE A CUP OF COFFEE, DESSERT AND HEAD OVER TO THE THEATER FOR A PERFORMANCE. THAT IS THE KIND OF EXPERIENCE WE WANT TO TRY TO CREATE WE THOUGHT OBTAIN PUBLIC PARKING, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WITH THE COUNTY COURTHOUSE AND ALL ITS ACTIVITY IS PARKING. IT IS WHAT CAUSES REALLY STEEP PEAKS AND VALLEYS IN DOWNTOWN IT ALSO HAS POTENTIAL FOR PHASING. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUILD THE WHOLE PARKING GARAGE AT ONCE, YOU CAN BUILD IT IN PIECES. THAT IS SOMETHING TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY DID WITH ITS STUDENT CENTER PARKING GARAGE. IT BUILT A COUPLE LEVELS FIRST ADDED FOUR MORE OBTAIN TEN YEARS LATER. THIS IS PROBABLY I WOULD SAY THE MOST CONTROVERSIAL THING WITHIN THE PLAN. AND WHAT WE HAVE SHOWN IS THE MOST AGGRESSIVE APPROACH TO THIS. WHAT WE'RE GOING TO ALSO TELL YOU IS DON GO BUILD THIS TOMORROW, TEST IDEAS. IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO TEST IDEAS ON A BIG PROJECT LIKE THIS SEE WHAT HAPPENS, SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DO FULL SHUTDOWNS.

YOU SEE THAT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE A CHRISTMAS TREE IT MEANS IT IS POSSIBLE TO DO A FULL STREET CLOSURE BUT YOU CAN DO HYBRIDS OF THIS AS A TRUE SHARED STREET.

IT CAN BE SOMETHING THAT GETS CLOSED PART OF THE TIME MAYBE IN THE EVENING.

OR GO FOR A FULL CLOSURE. THERE IS A WHOLE SPECTRUM THAT CAN HAPPEN AND ALSO STEPS INTO THE PRIVATE SPACE. WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS THAT THE OWNERS OF O'CONNOR LOSSA MAY HAVE OPPORTUNITIES, OPPORTUNITIES TO GREAT SPACES THEY MENTIONED AS BEING NEEDED DOWNTOWN. NEED FOR RESTAURANTS FOR WORKERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THEY CAN BE PART OF THE SOLUTION BY PROVIDING SMALLING SPACES. THESE CAN BE KIOSK-TYPE SPACES WITH OUTDOOR DINING, HAVE A FOUNTAIN, A ACTIVE WATER PLAZA. A LOT OF WAYS TO APPROACH THIS WE DON'T VIEW THIS AS STEPPING ONTO THEIR TOES,. WE TALKED ABOUT THE PUBLIC RAIN SHOWERS ROOM AND HOW TO DEAL WITH THAT AND YOU DON'T WANT PUBLIC REST ROOM TO BE OUT THERE LIKE PUNCHING YOU IN THE FACE. YOU WANT IT TO BE SUBTLE AND DISCREET BUT YOU WANT GOOD SITE LINES TO WHERE PEOPLE ARE. THAT LOOK AT ADDING PLAYGROUND SPACE, DIDN'T MESS WITH DELEON PLAZA ITSELF BECAUSE IT IS A REALLY WELL EXECUTED FORMAL PLAZA.

IT IS PRETTY SPECIAL OUR EXTENT OF RECOMMENDATIONS IS LOOKING AT DIFFERENT SEATING TYPES, TABLES THAT CAN MAKE IT MORE USEABLE DURING LUNCH HOUR, THINGS LIKE THAT.

>> BEFORE YOU GO ON. YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE PICTURE SHOWS THAT FOR REST IS CLOSED AND I'VE GOT SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THAT. Y BEEN APPROACHED BY AT LEAST ONE PERSON BUT WHO HAS BEEN APPROACHED BY OTHERS WITH SOME CONCERNS OF THE BUSINESSES IN THAT AREA. AND YOU SHARED WITH ME THAT THERE ARE WAYS THAT THE STREET CAN BE CLOSED IN TERMS OF STILL BEING FULLY FUNCTIONAL AS A STREET BUT TO INDICATE THAT IT IS MORE OF A PEDESTRIAN-FRIENDLY AREA. AND I WOULD LIKE YOU TO TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT FOR THE COUNCIL AND ALSO JUST ANY POTENTIAL TO HAVE IT OPEN DURING

THE DAY AND CLOSED ON WEEKEND. >> THERE ARE A FEW, I CAN'T THINK OF A SPECIFIC EXAMPLE OFF

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THAT IS ONE APPROACH. YOU CAN LOOK AT BALLARDS SIMPLY REMOVABLE OR GO FULLY AUTOMATED WHERE YOU PUNCH A SWITCH, THEY GO DOWN. THOSE HAVE DIFFERENT PRICES, OBVIOUSLY. YOU WANT TO SCALE IT TO HOW YOU WANT TO USE IT.

THIS IS WHY WE TALK ABOUT TEST AND DPOARMT SEE HOW PEOPLE ACTUALLY USE IT.

THOSE ARE A COUPLE OF APPROACHES WE'VE USED AND JUST USING TEXTURES, TREE PLACEMENTS AND

THINGS LIKE THAT TO SHOW THIS IS A SHARED SPACE. >> THANK YOU.

>> CAN YOU LEAVE IT UP THERE FOR A SECOND I DIDN'T CAN SEE THE REST ROOM BEHIND THE MONUMENT SIGN. ONE THING TO NOTE IS OBVIOUSLY THE USAGE OF EXPANDING EVEN IN THIS FOOTPRINT IT EXPANDS THE SIDEWALK FIELD TO ADD THE PICNIC TABLE AND CREATE MORE OF A SENSE OF PLACE IF YOU WILL AND A GATHERING PLACE AND AT THE END OF THE DAY REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE DESIGN LOOKS LIKE THAT IS THE BIG TAKEAWAY IS CREATING A SPACE THAT PEOPLE CAN GATHER ON A MORE RECURRING BASIS AND FACILITATE EVENTS AND REALLY JUST MORE OF AN ACTIVATION.

OBVIOUSLY DELEON PLAZA HAS A LOT GOING ON AND WE DON'T WANT TO MESS WITH THAT SO IF WE WERE TO

DO THAT THIS TWO WOULD BE SITE THAT IT MAKES SENSE TO. >>> WOULD YOU MAKE THAT A ONE

WAY STREET? >> I MEAN WE COULD -- THERE ARE ALL SORT OF SCENARIOS TO CONSIDER ONCE THE TIME COMES BUT ULTIMATELY WE'LL JUST HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISION AT SOME POINT AS TO WHAT EXTENT DO WE WANT TO GO ALONG THE SPECTRUM OF FULLY CLOSING THE STREET VERSUS PARTIAL. THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN BETWEEN NOW AND.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE CHRISTMAS FREE IS THE PERFECT EXAMPLE BECAUSE IT CLOSES DOWN THE STREET FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME LAST YEAR WE HAD THE CHRISTMAS TREE AND THAT WAS FOR THE POST PART THE ONLY ELEMENT THAT WAS THERE. BUT WE'RE LOOKING TO EXPAND AND BRING CHRISTMAS ON THE SQUARE BACK AS AN EXAMPLE WHICH WE REALLY DIDN'T HAVE IT TO ITS FULL POTENTIAL LAST YEAR. IT WILL BE WILLING TO GET A FEEL FOR WHAT THAT SPACE LOOKS LOOK LIKE. THERE IS ADDITIONAL ACTIVATION OPPORTUNITIES BEFORE WE DECIDE

ON IT. >> IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR ANOTHER CITY TO TALK TO SAN ANTONIO WENT THROUGH THIS EXACT SAME CONVERSATION AND THAT WAS A HUGELY CONTROVERSIAL ACTION.

THEY CLOSED TWO SIDES OF THEIR MAIN PAZSA PLAZA IN FRONT OF AND IF YOU WERE ASK PEOPLE TODAY MOST PEOPLE DON'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS LIKE BEFORE. IT HAS BEEN VERY WELL RECEIVED

AND DISABLE TO DEAL WITH LOGISTIC, THEY TESTED THE IDEAS. >> THAT'S WHAT I'M STRUGGLING WITH IT. YES WE CLOSED THAT STREET FOR THE ENTIRE MONTH OF DECEMBER, BUT FOR THE MOST PART ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ALL DAY MULTIPLE DAY, DAYTIME AND NIGHTTIME FESTIVALS OR TALKING OBTAIN SOMETHING IN THE EVENING LIKE THE STREET DANCES THAT WE HAVE OR THINGS ON THE WEEKENDS? BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY DIFFERENT USES OF THAT SPACE AND ISN'T THERE A WAY WE CAN SHARE WITH IT THE PEOPLE THAT YOU SAID WE DON'T HAVE TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM OF HAVING PEOPLE DOWNTOWN, WE ALREADY HAVE THEM. LET'S NOT DRIVE THEM AWAY.

THAT'S MY CONCERN. >> I THINK IF YOU DO THIS RIGHT YOU MIGHT FIND THOSE PEOPLE MAYBE STAY A LITTLE LONGER AFTER 5. THAT IS WHAT OUR IS.

LOTS OF OPTIONS THERE. AND THAT DELETE S THAT IS WHAT WE WANT TO EMPHASIZE, EXPLORE.

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PEOPLE GET ATTACHED TO THESE TYPES OF THINGS. WE DID TALK OBTAIN POTENTIAL NEW COUNTY FACILITIES. THIS ISN'T US SAY COUNTY GO BUILD SOMETHING TOMORROW THIS IS COUNTY, WE KNOW YOU HAVE A LOT OF ASSETS AND HERE IS WHAT WE THINK MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO THINK ABOUT FROM WHAT WE'VE SEEN OF YOUR NEEDS. WE LOOKED AT YOU DON'T HAVE SECURED PARKING FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT VEHICLES IF YOU DESIGN A BUILDING CORRECTLY YOU CAN CREATE THOSE TYPES OF SPACES. WE THOUGHT ABOUT THE CONTINENTAL HOTEL BUILDING AND HOW THAT MIGHT BE WELL SUITED FOR THINGS LIKE SPECIAL VICTIM SERVICES, YOU KNOW EVENING THINGS APPOINTED SPECIAL ADVOCATES WHERE YOU ACTUALLY WANT SOMETHING NOT SO INSTITUTIONAL AND HOW YOU CAN USE THOSE SPACES.

SO AGAIN, OUR MESSAGE IS THINK ABOUT HOW YOU WANT TO USE YOUR LAND SPACE THIS IS THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF DELEON PLAZA. WE'RE THINKING IN THE 40, 50ISH ROOM I THINK YOU HAVE THE DEMAND TO SUPPORT SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT COULD HELP YOU HOLD THE CORNER.

A GAP IN YOUR URBAN DESIGN. 120 MAIN ACTIVATION. YOU HAVE A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS WHAT WE'VE SUGGESTED IS SPECIAL PART OF THAT BUILDING IS ITS LOBBY AND COULD YOU CREATE LIKE A FOOD COURT FOOD HALL CONACCEPT TO BUILD ON THEIR WHOLE ENTREPRENEURIAL SPIRIT THEY'RE GOING FOR TO MAKE A CORNER THAT MAKES FEEL A LITTLE COOL FEEL WARMED UP AGAIN AND IN THIS BUILDING WE'RE GOING TO RECOMMEND LOOKING AT METHODS TO BRING BUILDINGS BACK TO THEIR FORMER GLORY WHY NOT ADD A ROOFTOP COMPONENT. AND BIG ON STREAM LIKES.

>> RESTORE IT TO ITS FORMER GLOR I ARE, I LIKE IT. >> IT IS A NEAT SPACE AND THE BOXED COFFEE PLACE, THAT IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF GETTING VERY CREATE UFO.

WE WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT AN ALL-POLICY ACTIONS HOW CAN YOU EMBRACE CREATIVITY LIKE THAT AND REUSING SPACES THAT IS A BUILDING I PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BET AGAINST.

THAT IS A REALLY NEAT SPACE. WE SEE THIS AREA AND A SOUTHERN PROPERTY OWNED BY THE COUNTY A GREAT MIXED USE. THIS CAN BE SOMETHING LARGE SCALE A WHOLE CITY BLOCK QUESTION DON'T ADVOCATE KNOCKING THINGS DOWN. A BUILDING THAT NEEDS A LITTLE LOVE. AND WE THINK IT HAS GREAT BONES TO IT.

WE ALSO SEE OPPORTUNITY MAYBE ADD A SMALL INFILL BUILDING WITH IT.

WE WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT OUTDOOR SPACES IN COUNTDOWN, PLACES WHERE PEOPLE CAN BRING THEIR KIDS AND GO WITH THEIR DOG, THINGS LIKE THAT IF THEY CARN BRING THEIR DOG OR KID THEY

WILL SPEND MORE MEN, IT IS INEVITABLE. >> THIS IS THE 120 MAIN PARKING GARAGE. IT HAD A CAR DETAILING SPACE. THOSE CAN BE REUSED.

THINK ABOUT THINKS LIKE SMALL SCALE GROCERY. IF THEY CAN DO IT IN MARTUNDALE, YOU CAN DO IN VICTORIA. AND THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BEER GARDENS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND RESIDENTIAL INFILL WE'VE SHOWN A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES BUT THE REAL MESSAGE IS YOU HAVE A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL AREAS THAT HAVE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY. IF IT IS A PLACE WHERE HOUSE IS ALREADY EXISTING CAN THEY ADD AN ACCESSORY DWELLING. IF IT IS A LARGE HOUSE HOW CAN IT BE RESTORED, A BED-AND-BREAKFAST. , THINKING ABOUT RESIDENTIAL AS A KEY COMPONENT OF DOWNTOWN IS REALLY IMPORTANT. THAT IS EVERYDAY CUSTOMERS FOR DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES THAT BRINGS US TO FINANCING AND ENCRINIVE STRATEGIES AND THIS IS THE GUY

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TOO THAT NEEDS TO SPEAK TO THAT. >> HE GETS ALL THE GOOD STUFF AND THEN I.

>> I THINK YOU NEED A DEDICATED STREAM OF FUNDING FOR DOWNTOWN. AND SO INCENTIVES YOU NEED TO TAKE INTO ASK, THE NEED TO AT TRACK BUSINESSES TO DOWNTOWN, A POSITIVE RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR THE CITY AND THE COMMUNITY AND YOU NEED TO APPEAL TO A BROADER AUDIENCE.

YOU HAVE A STABLE EMPLOYMENT BASE, THINGS CLOSE DOWN AFTER PEOPLE LEAVE WORK, HOW DO WE GET MORE RESIDENTS TO MOVE DOWNTOWN, HOW DO WE GET THOSE BUSINESSES TO STAY OPEN LATER YOU NEED A LONG-TERM REVENUE STREAM DEDICATED TO DOWNTOWN TO HELP INCENTIVIZE THESE PROJECTS WHEN IT MAKES SENSE. IN ARE NUMBER OF TOOLS AVAILABLE TO YOU THERE THE FIRST COUPLE ARE TAKE EXISTING REVENUE STREAMS AND DEDICATING AS MUCH THAT MAKES SENSE TO DOWNTOWN OVER THREE, FOUR, FIVE YEARS SO WE KNOW WHAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH TO INCENTIVIZE THOSE PROJECT. THE SECOND TWO APPELLATES -- BULLETS TALK ABOUT TAX ABATEMENTS OR REBATES LINKED TO A SPECIFIC PROJECT. SO SOMEBODY BUILDS SOMETHING NEW, MAYBE THEY GET A TAX ABATEMENT. IF THEYGY A NEW RETAILER OR RESTAURANT DOWNTOWN WE'LL REBATE PART OF THE SALES TAX THEY GENERATE.

AGAIN, THE FIRST TWO WERE OBTAIN ALLOCATING EXISTING REVENUE STREAMS. THESE TWO SPEAK TO PROJECT SPECIFIC TAX ABATEMENTS. THE NEXT TWO ARE PRETTY COMMON IN DOWNTOWN. IN NORTHEAST AMRIL WILL LOW WORKING ON A REINVESTMENT ZONE FOR THEM THAT IS DEDICATING FUTURE REVENUE STREAMS TO DOWNTOWN.

NOT WHAT YOU HAVE TODAY BUT WHAT YOU GENERATE IN THE FUTURE. THE SECOND IS A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. THESE ARE POPULAR ALL OVER THE STATE.

THESE ARE AN ADDITIONAL FEE OR ASSESSMENT BUSINESSES IN A GEOGRAPHIC AREA OF PAY AND DEDICATED TO THAT ZONE A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT IS A ADDITIONAL FEE OR ASSESSMENT POPULAR IN DOWNTOWN AUSTIN, DOWNTOWN SAN ANTONIO, DOWNTOWN FORT WORTH.

>> SOME COMMUNITIES HAVE BOTH. >>> SOME COMMUNITY DOS HAVE BOTH.

>>> DOWNTOWN SAN ANTONIO, FORT WORTH, AUSTIN HAVE BOTH, DIFFERENT STRATEGIES AND I'LL GO HOW THOSE WILL WORK IN A LITTLE BIT. TOOT OPPORTUNITY SO MANY CULTURAL ASSETS IN YOUR DOWNTOWN AREA. COULD YOU APPLY FOR CULTURAL DISTRICT DESIGNATION FROM THE TEXAS COMMISSION OF THE ART? IT IS A STATE WYE CERTIFICATION YOU GET? AND IF YOU BECOME DESIGNATED AS A CULTURAL DISTRICT IT OPENS UP NEW FUNDING STREAMS TO PAY FOR CULTURAL PROJECTS IN THE DOWNTOWN.

BUT YOU FIRST HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF BEING DESIGNATED. THOSE ARE A HANDFUL.

TAKE EXISTING REVENUE AND DEDICATE DOWNTOWN, PROJECT SPECIFIC INCENTIVES, GEOGRAPHIC OR ZONE-BASED FINANCING STRATEGY AND THE FOURTH WOULD BE TO APPLY FOR CULTURAL DISTRICT DESSIG NATION. I WILL QUICKLY GO OVER WHAT A TERS IS THEY ARE NOT A TAX INCREASE, TYPICALLY CITIES, COUNTY, HOSPITAL DISTRICTS COME TOGETHER SO EVERYTHING YOU GET TODAY YOU KEEP. IT IS ABOUT SHARING FUTURE TAX REVENUE BASED ON GROWTH.

THIS GRAPHIC I USE TO DEPICT IT WHAT YOU'RE COLLECTING TODAY IS CALLED THE BASE, THE FUTURE STUFF, FUTURE TAX REVENUE WE CALL THE INCREMENT. YOU CAN DEDICATE MOST COMMON FOR 20 TO 30 YEARS AND SET IT FOR 25 YEARS, SET IT FOR 10, 20 TO 30 YEARS IS WHAT MOST COMMUNITIES DO. THE ORANGE IS THE INCREMENT. IT GOES INTO THAT SPECIAL ACCOUNT. IT IS INNOCENT THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

WHEN THE TOURIST TERMINATES. ALL THE MONEY GOES BACK TO GENERAL FUND AS IF THE ZONE NEVER EXISTED. SO FOR A DEDICATED PERIOD OF TIME WE'RE SENDING A SIGNAL TO THE COMMUNITY, COME TO DOWNTOWN BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO DOUBLE DOWN ON REINVESTMENTING IN THE

DOWNTOWN. >> I CALL THESE THE TWO RULING IS AND -- 2 RULES YOU CAN HAVE MORE THAN 30% OF THE ZONE BE RESIDENTIAL AT THE TIME OF CREATION.

AND THE SECOND IS YOU CAN'T HAVE TOO MANY TIRZ. Y'ALL AREN'T IMPACTED BY EITHER ONE OF THOSE BASED ON THE ZONE THAT I'LL SHOW YOU THERE IS A FORMAL PROCESS THERE IS A LITTLE

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IF YOU PUT IT IN PLACE THIS YEAR, THE FIRST YEAR'S INCREMENT WOW 2022.

AND THAT IS NOT DUE UNTIL JANUARY 31ST OF 2023 JUST IF WAY THE TAX CYCLE WORKS.

YOU NEED TO PUT THESE IN PLACE BEFORE A PROJECT BREAKS GROUNDS IF YOU DO IT AFTER THE FACT YOU MAY LOSE THAT INCREMENTAL GROWTH. A STRATEGY PEOPLE PUT THESE IN PLACE. IT DOES TAKE A COUPLE OF YEARS FOR THAT INCREMENT TO BUILD UP.

SIMILAR TO OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE A FORMAL HEARING, YOU DESIGNATE THE GEOGRAPHIC AREA, YOU DESIGNATE THE INCREMENT YOU WOULD CONTRIBUTE, THE NUMBER OF YEARS. THERE IS A PRELIMINARY PROJECT AND FINANCE PLAN, YOU APPOINTED A BORE, THEY APPROVE ANOTHER PLAN, IT COMES BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND YOU STILL HAVE CONTROL BUT JUST A PROCESS BY STATE LAW YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGHING YOU THEN ASK THE OTHER TAXING ENTITIES TO JOIN IF THEY JOIN THEY GET AT LEAST ONE PERSON ON THE BOARD.

SO WORKS LIKE OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT YOU HAVE. SO BASED ON THE WORK I'VE DON

DOWNTOWN TALK. >> REALLY QUICKLY CAN YOU GO BACK REAL QUICK.

I WANT TO CLARIFY ASKING OTHER ENTITIES TO PARTICIPATE. CAN YOU JUST CLARIFY THE ENTITIES THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE TO JOIN US IN THOSE THAT WOULD NOT.

>> SO CITIES, COUNTIES, HOSPITAL DISTRICTS, COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICTS PUBLIC SCHOOL DISTRICTS THE SHORT VERSION IS VERY, VERY SCHOOL DELETE S FEW SCHOOL DRINKS JOIN BECAUSE IT BACKS THEIR STATE FUNDING. SO THEY CAN, MOST DON'T. IT IS COMMON TO SEE THE CITY,

THE COUNTY AND MAYBE HOSPITAL DISTRICT JOIN. >> THANK YOU IF THEY JOIN IT IS NOT AS IF THEIR TAX MONEY COMES TO THE CITY AND THE CITY GETS TO SPEND IT.

THEIR TAX MONEY IS STILL THEIR TAX MONEY BUT THEY SPEND IT IN THE TIRZ.

>> FUTURE TAX REVENUE GOES INTO THIS SPECIAL BANK ACCOUNT IS THE EASIEST WAY TO UNDERSTAND IT.

WE PEEL OUR RESOURCES COLLECTIVELY AND PRAY FOR PROJECTS COLLECTIVELY AND TYPICALLY PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, MAYBE YOU NEED TO ACQUIRE A KEY PIECE OF PROPERTY YOU DO SOMETHING WITH BUT EVERYONE SENDS THEIR MONEY A BANK ACCOUNT AND HAS TO GET SPENT IN THIS ZONE AND THE SPECIFICS ARE WORKED OUT AND THAT PROJECT AND FINANCE PLAN THEY'RE TYPICALLY NOT CONTROVERSIAL PROJECTS OR YOU WOULDN'T COME TOGETHER IN

THE FIRST MACE. >> AND TIRZ ISSUE BONDS? >> THEY CAN.

YOU TYPICALLY DON'T ISSUE THEM UNTIL YOU HAVE ENOUGH INCREMENT TO REPAY THE DEBT AND COVERAGE RATIO. I WORKED ON A 1200 ACRE MASTER PLAN IN BROWNSVILLE THE DEVELOPER WILL TAKE ON THE DEBT ONCE THE INCEMENT GETS HIGH ENOUGH THE TIRZ CAN TAKE ON THE DEBT. IT TAKES IT ON AND TYPICALLY CHEAPER TO FINANCE SOME DO AFTER

THE FIRST 4 OR FIVE YEARS OF GROWTH. >>> DOES THE MONEY HAVE TO BE SPENT NOON IT COMES IN OR ACCUMULATED TOWARDS THE A PROJJECT.

>> THE CITY OF DENTON DOES THEY USE THEIR TIRZ, SOME BUILD IT UP TO PAY FOR A PROJECT IN THE FUTURE. SOME DO GRANTS SOME WILL DO DEFACTO PROPERTY TAX ABATEMENTS SINCE YOU'RE SENDING THE MONEY FROM THE CITY THERE AND CUTS THE CHECK TO THE DEVELOPER TO.

>> PROPERTY TAX REBATE AGREEMENT. >> IN SAN ANTONIO IF Y'ALL KNOW WHERE THE PEARL IS ALL THE RESIDENTIAL BUILT AROUND THE PEARL THE CITY SENT 100% OF THE TAX INCREMENT TO THE TIRZ THE INCENTIVE POLICY TO ENCOURAGE NEW HOUSING DOWNTOWN WHICH IS SOMETHING YOU ALL SHOULD CONTEMPLATE THE TIRZ MADE THE THAT REBATE PAYMENT.

SOME BUILD IT UP, SOME SPEND IT AS IT COME IN SOME ISSUE DEBT DOWN THE ROAD WHEN THEY CAN.

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>> HERE IS A TIRZ THAT I THINK MAKES SENSE. IT GETS A LITTLE TRICKY, THAT IS THE COMPLICATED TERM. ROUGHLY NUECES TO THE NORTH, MOODY TO THE WEST, OVER TO THE RAILROAD TRACKS THAT SOUTHERN PACIFIC IS 3 OR 4 BLOCKS COUNT AT AS ONE PARCEL AND TYPICALLY EASIER UNLESS YOU WANT TO DO A TYPICAL MEETS MEETS AND BOUNDS. YOU HAVE TO DEFINE THE BOUNDARIES WE TYPICALLY DO WITH IT THE MAP AND LIST OF PARCEL IDS.

IF YOU WANTED TO CUT THE RAILROAD PROPERTY IN HALF YOU CAN BUT THEN DESCRIBE IT AS A FORMAL MEETS AND BOUNDS AND APPRAISAL DISTRICTS DON'T LIKE IT.

IT IS EITHER IN OR OUT. THAT IS WHY I SEND IT SO FAR TO THE EAST FOR LACK OF BETTER EXAMPLE. OTHER THING I NOTICED YOUR LARGE OFFICE BUILDINGS DOWNTOWN FLUCTUATE IN VALUE AND SAME THING HAPPENED IN IRVING IF YOU KNOW WHERE LAS COLINAS IS.

THEY WENT UNDER THEIR BASELINE VALUE SO IT TOOK THEM A COUPLE OF YEARS TO BUILD OUT OF THAT, SO WHEN I SAY BASELINE VALUE I'M GOING TO JUMP AHEAD HERE THIS IS $61 MILLION THIS SETS THE BASE THIS IS A 2020 VALUE. I'VE GOT TO GET THE 2021 TAXABLE VALUE BUT THE BASE IS SET SO IT IS ANYTHING ABOVE THE 61 MILLION WE GO BELOW THE 61 BECAUSE THEY COME OFF THE TAX ROLL AND WE HAVE TO WORK EXTRA HARD TO GET BACK ABOVE 61. THE STRATEGY IS IF THE CITY, COUNTY, SCHOOL DISTRICT DOESN'T NEED PROPERTY LET'S CREATE A TIRZ, LET'S SELL IT AND GET IT TAXABLE. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, THE MITCHELL SCHOOL DOESN'T HAVE A TAXABLE VALUE BECAUSE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OWNS IT. THE DAY IT SELL IT IT SHOWS UP AND ADDED VALUE TO THE ZONE DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO EVERYBODY? THAT IS A CONVERSATION WITH THE COUNTY IF WE HAVE SURPLUS PROPERTY LET'S FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED.

CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, I THINK THIS IS LOW, BUT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ALSO USED THE TIRZ TO PAY FOR A PARKING GARAGE AT THE MUSEUM. SO AS WE THINK ABOUT DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES IS HOW DO WE MARRY THINGS TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ENOUGH FUNDING TO

PAY FOR THE PROJECT AS THEY MAKE SENSE. >> BEFORE WE LEAVE TIRZ, IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THIS IN PLACE BY THE END OF THIS YEAR.

AND I WOULD JUST LIKE FOR US REAL QUICK TO TOUCH ON IT AND MAKE SURE WE GIVE GOOD DIRECTION

TO MR. GARZA THIS IS SOMETHING WE WANT TO GO FORWARD WITH. >> I'M CERTAINLY IN FAVOR OF IT.

>> THE TIRZ PORTION. >> BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED TO GET HELP WITH IT.

>> DEFINITELY ON A TIME CRUNCH. >> YOU JUST NEED TO GET THROUGH THE THIRD BULLET.

IF YOU LIKE THE MAP AND THAT IS THE DIRECTION, YOU CAN AMEND THE BOUNDARIES LATER.

IT IS BETTER TO GET IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME. ONCE YOU START ISSUING DEBT BOND IT'S BETTER TO GET IT RIGHT. YOU CAN TWEAK. YOU HAVE TO HAVE PUBLIC HEARING AND Y'ALL TAKE TWO READINGS. WE'VE GOT TO BACK OUT THE CALENDAR TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ENOUGH TIME. MOST COMMUNITIES HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEY APPROVE IT ON FIRST READING THE SAME NIGHT PUBLIC HEARINGS THE POSTINGS, APPROVAL UNLESS YOU WANT TO

MEET. DID THAT MAKE SENSE. >> SOUNDS LIKE AN EMERGENCY

READING. >> WE WOULDN'T WANT TO APPROACH IT THAT WAY.

>>> WE WOULD APPROACH IT ANY WAY WE WOULD ANY OTHER ORDINANCE. >>> WE JUST NEED TO BUILD THAT

EXTRA MEETING INTO THE TIMELINE. >> SO SOME IT IS A RUSH AT THE END, OTHERS THEY CALL SPECIAL MEETINGS. YOU PROBABLY HAVE THREE MEETINGS WORTH OF STUFF AND THINGS TO DO

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THERE IS STILL TIME I DON'T REMEMBER IF YOU MEET TWICE IN DECEMBER.

WE NEED TO GET GOING IF THAT IS THE DIRECTION. >> SIX MORE REGULARLY SCHEDULED

MEETINGS. >> WE WOULD WANT TO TAKE THE TIME TO MEET WITH STAKEHOLDER ISES, INCLUDE THE MAIN STREET BOARD IN THE CONVERSATION. WE WOULD WANT TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WHAT IS THE LEGALLY MINIMUM REQUIREMENT BECAUSE WE WOULD WANT TO ENSURE BUY-IN.

THAT WILL TAKE A LITTLE EXTRA TIME AS WELL. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE NUMBER.

>> THAT IS PART OF THE FINANCING PLAN. IN ORDER TO GET THE FINANCING PLAN, WE WOULD ACTUALLY TAKE THE NEXT STEP AND THEY WOULD WORK TO PUT THE FINANCING PLAN TOGETHER.

THE SCOPE OF DOING THAT WASN'T INCLUDED IN THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN.

WE WEREN'T GOING TO ASSUME THAT WE WERE GOING TO DO IT IS AND SO THE DIRECTION WAS TO PROCEED WITH TIRZ. WE WOULD PROCEED WITH ADDING SERVICES TO TAKE IT THE NEXT STEP AND HELP US ESTABLISH THIS AND WE WOULD INCLUDE YOU ALL IN THAT CONVERSATION.

>> YOU MADE THE COMMENT ON YOUR CHART WITH THE MONEY AND THEN IT REVERTS BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND. YOU MADE THE COMMENT THAT IT IS WHEN THE TIRZ ENDS OR WHEN COUNCIL ENDS IT. SO I THINK I TOOK THAT TO MEAN IF WE WERE TO CREATE ONE AND SAID THIS ISN'T WORTH IT AS ALL WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE STUCK TO THE NUMBER OF YEARS THAT WE HAD

ORIGINALLY SET IT UP FOR. >>> CORRECT. IF YOU SET IT UP FOR 30 YEARS AND IT GOES GREAT AND YOU PAY FOR EVERYTHING IN 20, THEN YOU CAN TERMINATE IT.

>> OF COURSE, UNLESS WE'VE ISSUED BONDS. >> OR KEEP IT GOING.

>>> A LOT OF CITIES KEEP IT GOING. AND I'M IN AUSTIN SO I CAN COME DOWN AS MUCH AS NEEDED. I MAKE THE TIMING POINT ONLY MOST PEOPLE TRY TO TIE IT IN

WITH COUNCIL MEETING. >> AND TO BE CLEAR GOING BACK TO THE TIMELINE ON THE BULLET POINS OF STUFF THAT NEEDS TO GET DONE. WE WOULD NEED TO SECURE THE OTHER ENTITIES PARTICIPATING BY

THE TIME WE SET IT UP. >> THEY COULD JOIN LATER. THEY COULD JOIN AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR. IT IS BETTER TO KEEP THEM ENGAGED IN THE PROCESS TO MOVE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE SO AS LONG AS THE CITY ESTABLISHES THE TIRZ THIS YEAR THE BASELINE IS LOCKED INTO 2021. IF THEY JOINED AT THE BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR THEY JOIN THROUGH AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THEY COULD HAVE A 2021 VALUE. TO NOT LOSE MOMENTUM IS BETTER TO KEEP EVERYBODY INVOLVED, TALK TO THEM, MAKE SURE THEY KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON, GET THEIR FEEDBACK. BUT THIS TYPICALLY TAKES FOUR TO FIVE MONTHS, HOPEFULLY FOUR, BUT BY TOO TIME YOU GET GOING AND FOLKS TO JOIN AND SHOW UP AT A COUNTY COMMISSION MEETING THEY TYPICALLY LIKE A PRESENTATION AS WELL SO THAT CAN TANG FOUR TO FIVE MONTHS.

>> WE'LL GET OURS IN 3. >> PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD PROCESS.

>> DOES THIS TIRZ BOUNDARY MAKE SENSE KNOWING THERE IS LIMITATION ON RESIDENTIAL, HAVE WE LEFT MAYBE THIS IS APPROPRIATE OR NOT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS THINK ABOUT IT, CHEW ONITY I WOULD TAKE MY FOUR MONTHS TO COME WITH SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

>> I WOULD SUGGEST THAT COUNCIL AND I CAN ALWAYS E-MAIL IT AS A SEPARATE DOCUMENT IT IS EASIER TO REVIEW AND HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT IT AT OUR ONE-ON-ONE MEETINGS AND GO THAT WAY. THAT WAY YOU DON'T NECESSARILY FEEL PRESSURE TO PROVIDE THAT

FEEDBACK RIGHT NOW ON THE SPECIFIC BOUNDARY. >>> THINK ABOUT FIT THAT MAKES SENSE, WE CAN TWEAK IT AT A PROPERTY, YOU THINK SOMETHING IS IMPORTANT TO ADD, THAT IS THE GENERAL BOUNDARIRY. THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT AGAIN, IT IS SIMILAR IN THAT IT IS GEOGRAPHIC BASE TO THAT MONEY HAS TO BE PAID FOR THE BUSINESSES IN THE ZONE SOMETIMES DONE BASED ON A PER SQUARE FOOT, SOMETIMES AN ASSESSMENT LIKE A PROPERTY TAX FIVE CENTS, A NICHOL AND THE MONEY HAS TO BE INNOCENT THE ZONE. THAT IS THE HIGHLIGHTS OF WHAT THE MONEY HAS TO GET SPENT ON. IT IS SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON.

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>> IS THIS SOMETHING THAT IS USUALLY SET UP ON A MORE MATURE DOWNTOWN AREA?

VERSUS ONE TRYING TO ESTABLISH ITSELF? >> A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH.

I THINK IN TEXAS EXAMPLE THEY WERE SET UP AS THEY WERE TRYING TO COME BACK.

THEY PAID FOR EXTRA SECURITY, EXTRA POLICING. YOU SEE FOLKS ON THE BICYCLE, TRASH PICKUP. IT JUST DEPENDS. A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH.

TODAY MAY NOT BE THE RIGHT POINT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS TODAY.

A CITY MANAGER SAYS THE A LOT OF TIMES FIRZ THE SAME BETWEEN A PID, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE.

THAT IS WHY YOU DO THIS TO HAVE MORE MONEY AND MORE RESOURCES. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE THOUGHT ABOUT. HERE IS WHAT WE THINK AND A LOT MORE DETAILS IN THE DOCUMENT.

PROPERTY TAX ABATEMENT FOR NEW RESIDENTIAL HOUSING MAKES SENSE. WE HAVE TO DRIVE DEMAND TO GET BUSINESSES TO STAY OPEN LATER. CHANCE SHOWED YOU WHERE THAT MAKES SENSE.

NO ONE HAS BUILT DOWNTOWN IN A LONG TIME ON THE MULTI-FAMILY SIDE SO YOU MAY NEED TO INCENTIVIZE THE FIRST OR SECOND PROJECT SO PROVES THERE IS DEMAND DOWNTOWN HOTEL THE SAME THING, YOU MAY HAVE TO PROVIDE SOME TYPE OF INCENTIVE TO HELP THAT HOTEL COME DOWNTOWN.

I THINK JOB GRANTS FOR BUSINESSES THAT ADD FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES WHO WORK DOWNTOWN MAKES SENSE. ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT DON'T HAVE TO BE THERE.

IF YOU'RE COURT RELATED OR LAW RELATED OR WORK WITH THE CITY THERE IS A REASON YOU'RE DOWNTOWN. HOW DO WE GET MORE BUSINESSES TO COME DOWNTOWN WHO DON'T HAVE TO LOCATE IN DOWNTOWN? THAT SPEAKS TO BROADBAND, SOFTWARE DEVELOPER, DIVERSIFYING THE TYPE OF BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN. THE ENHANCED FACADE AND BUILDING IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM YOU'RE DOING THAT TODAY, I THINK MORE OF THAT WOULD BE BETTER. AND THEN LONG-TERM, 700 NORTH MAIN, THAT IS A LONG-TERM CITY FACILITY QUESTION. THAT IS IN THE TIRZ.

IF THE CITY MOVED THOSE FUNCTIONS SOMEWHERE ELSE YOU NOW HAVE A PROPERTY THAT YOU COULD OFFER UP AS PART OF A REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT OR INCENTIVE AND THEN MIXED-USE ON THE COMMUNITY COUNTY PROPERTY OR PARKING GARAGE. THE COUNTY HAS A LOT OF PROPERTY AND HOW DO WE WORK WITH THE COUNTY TO SEE WHAT THEY DON NEED AND SELL IT AND SAVE SAME WITH THE MITCHELL SCHOOL SO SOMEONE CAN COME DO SOMETHING IN THE SHORT-TERM WITH THAT I'LL TURN

IT BACK OVER TO CLANS. >>> CAN I ASK A QUESTION BEFORE YOU GO BACK.

>> YES, SIRIO IF THE COUNTY WAS PART OF THE TIRZ, WHO MAKES UP THE GOVERNING BODY OF THE TIRZ.

WHO DECIDES IT. >> IT WOULD BE UP US WHEN WE SET IT UP.

>> THE CITY COUNCIL, THROUGH STATE LAWS ABOUT THE MINIMUM AND MAXIMUM.

EVERY TAXING ENTITY THAT PARTICIPATES GETS AT LEAST ONE REPRESENTATIVE SO YOU CAN CHOOSE AN 8 OR 9-PERSON BOARD, YOU I CAN WORK THROUGH THE MATH WHATEVER MAKES SENSE AND THE COUNTY COULD DELETE S WOULD GET A PERSON ASK SOME COMMUNITIES TO NOT CREATE A DIFFERENT BOARD, SOME COMMUNITIES LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE A MAIN STREET BOARD AND SO YOU COULD THEORETICALLY HAVE SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE MAIN STREET BOARD THAT REPRESENTS THE NONI GUESS THE STAKEHOLDERS AND THEN OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE THE APPOINTMENTS THAT COME AFTER THAT.

AND SO IT REALLY IS UP TO US. >> THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE ELECTED MEMBERS OF THE BODY.

>> IT IS TYPICALLY PEOPLE WHO CARE ABOUT DOWNTOWN, AND DOWNTOWN ADVOCATES AND USUALLY PEOPLE THAT AREN'T COG TO OCOME TO THE TIRZ ASKING FOR SOMETHING WHERE IT WOULD BE A CONFLICT.

PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN DOWNTOWN, WORK IN DOWNTOWN AND CARE ABOUT DOWNTOWN.

THOSE ARE PEOPLE YOU WOULD APPOINTED THE BOARD. >>> THAT R THEY LONG-TERM,

SHORT-TERM? >> SET TERMS MICK A PRESIDENT, YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE THE FIRST ONE STAGGERED SO YOU WON HAVE EVERYONE ROLLING OFF STATEMENT. SET UP BUY LAWS AND AS I SAID, YOU CAN GIVE THEM AS MUCH POWER AS YOU WANT. IF YOU DON'T WANT THEM TO SPEND ANY MONEY WITHOUT COMING BACK TO YOU, YOU CAN DO IT THAT WAY. LARGER MORE ESTABLISHED TIRZ SAY YOU CAN SPEND UP TO $25,000 WITHOUT COMING BACK TO US IF YOU NEED TO HIRE AN ENGINEER OR A SURVEYOR OR SOME SOME KIND OF ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTION BUT IF YOU WANT EVERYTHING TO COME BACK TO YOU, YOU CAN SET IT UP THAT WAY IN THE BUY LAWS. DIE BYLAWS.

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IO YOU SAY HOW MUCH GOES INTO THE PROGRAM AS AN EXAMPLE. >>> WHAT HAVE YOU SEEN HAS AN EFFECTIVE, EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT TO THIS? I MEAN IT IS CITIZENS GOT TO GET

THEIR HEADS AROUND. >> I THINK IT IS A COMBINATION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING WHICH YOU POST ON THE WEBSITE AND CITY STAFF, YOUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOLKS AND MAIN STREET FOLKS PROMOTING THIS AS A TOOL THAT FOLKS SHOULD COME TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IF YOU'RE DOING A DEVELOPMENT

PROJECT IN DOWNTOWN. >>> I THINK YOU MEAN MORE DURING THE PROCESS OF SETTING IT UP,

RIGHT? >> I DO. I WOULD SAY PROMOTING WHEN THERE IS GOING BE A PUBLIC HEARING. THERE IS TYPICALLY NOT A LOT OF OUTREACH TO THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT IS NOT AN ADDITIONAL BURDEN MOST COMMUNITIES POST IT AS NORMAL.

>> AND AS I ELUDED TO EARLIER WE WOULD WANT TO INCLUDE THE MAIN STREET BOARD AND PROBABLY SCHEDULE MORE THAN JUST THE REQUIRE PUBLIC HEARING AND TALK ABOUT IT AS PARTNERSHIP MEETING, YOU KNOW, TALK OBTAIN WITH IT CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. SO, YOU KNOW, IT IS REALLY JUST EDUCATING PEOPLE, BECAUSE FOR US IT IS PROBABLY EASY TO UNDERSTAND THE ME CANUKS BEHIND IT, BUT WHEN SOMEBODY HEARS HEAE TERM TAX INCEMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE, WE WANT TO BE CLEAR THIS IS NOT A NEW TAX OR ANYTHING TO THAT EFFECT. AND THAT IS PROBABLY THE ONE PIECE THAT WE REALLY NEED TO KIND OF HIT ON BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE THINKING THIS IS SOMETHING ON TOP OF WHATT THEY ALREADY PAY AND THE REASON WHY COMMUNITIES IF HAVING TO CHOOSE BETWEEN TIRZ AND THE PID, IS BECAUSE SOMEBODY IS NOT HAVING TO CUT AN EXTRA CHECK IF YOU SET UP A PID YOU AS A DOWNTOWN BUSINESS OWNER MIGHT HAVE TO LITERALLY CUT A CHECK AT THE END OF THE YEAR TO MEET YOUR AGENCY SESSMENT BEING REQUIRED OF YOU VERSUS THE TIRZ EVERYONE PAYS THEIR PROPERTY TAX AS NORMAL AND BEHIND THE SCENES THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT COORDINATES THE TRANSFER OF THE INCREMENT ACCORDINGLY. AND OBVIOUSLY THERE IS AN EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO OR WOULD HAVE TO INCLUDE BECAUSE THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST TIRZ THAT WE SET UP UNDER THIS MECHANISM IN OUR COMMUNITY EVER.

SO WOULD NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WORKS. >> I HAVE A QUESTION, THE PID, HOW WOULD THAT BE SET UP. DO PEOPLE GET TO VOTE ON IT IN THAT DISTRICT? THERE ARE ACTUALLY BEING TAXED EXTRA? IS THERE A DIFFERENT SET-UP

PROCEDURE FOR THAT. >>> I WOULD NOT USING THE WORD "TAX".

>> IS IT KIND OF LIKE A PROPERTY HOME OWNER'S ASSOCIATION. >> SORT OF LIKE HOA AFTER THE FACT. THE YOU HAVE TO GET A MAJORITY TO VOTE FOR IT.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN EVERY FIVE YEARS. I'M GOING TO SAY IT WORKS SIMILAR, BUT YES YOU HAVE SAY-SO IN BEING PAYING THAT ASSESSMENT IS A BETTER WAY TO SAY IT LIKE AN HOA AFTER THE GROOCT BUT MANDATORY MEMBERSHIP WITHIN YOUR BOUNDARIES.

>> ONCE YOU GET MAJORITY TO BE FOR IT, YES IT IS MANDATORY. >> AND I THINK REGARDLESS WHETHER THESE ARE CHOSEN BY THE COUNCIL TO MOVE FORWARD, I THINK PART OF THAT EDUCATION COMPONENT FOR THE CITIZENS I THINK A BIG QUESTION WILL BE, I DON'T LIVE HERE, I DON'T HAVE A BUSINESS IN HERE. WHAT IMPACT DOES THIS IS HAVE ON ME IF ANY.

THAT MESSAGE NEEDS TO BE MADE CLEAR HERE IS WHAT IT DOES? HERE IS WHAT IT DOESN'T DO.

IMPACTS PEOPLE WITHIN THE ZONE AND WHAT IT DOES OR DOESN'T DO TO PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE ZONE.

ALL OF THAT IS A COMMUNITY ISSUE THAT ARE FOCUSED ON THE REST OF THE CITY AS WELL AND HAVE BOTH SIDES OF THE EQUATION SO PEOPLE HAVE A FAIR UNDERSTANDING OF THAT TO COME TO A HEARING AND

SAY HERE IS MY OPINION BASED ON WHAT I UNDERSTAND. >> CITIES HAVE YOUR FAQ PAGE.

SO I GUESS NOW THAT I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION BETTER THAT IS HOW A LOT OF CITIES DO IT OR THEY HAVE A WEB PAGE THAT DESCRIBES WHAT IT IS BUT ALSO DO AN OUTREACH COMPONENT THAT WOULD BE

IMPACTED BEFOREHAND. >> I WAS GOING TO SAY ON TOP OF THAT NOT JUST ABOUT THE TIRZ

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OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE MULTIPLE TIRZ. AND SO IT IS NOT UNCOMMON TO HAVE A UNIVERSITY TIRZ TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF GROWTH AROUND UNIVERSITY.

IT IS NOT UNCOMMON TO HAVE HOSPITAL-RELATED TIRZ FOR THE SAME REASON.

SO THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST ONE OUR COMMUNITY DOES. SO IT IS GOING TO TAKE THAT EXTRA EFFORT FOR FOLKS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS AND WHAT IT ISN'T.

>> IF WE HAD A UNIVERSITY TIRZ, COULD FINANCIALLY BACK THE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS NEEDED AROUND THE UNIVERSITY AS AN EXAMPLE TO PREPONDERANCE STREETS AND INFRASTRUCTURE ON THAT

COUNCIL MEMBER THAT IS THE SECOND NUMBER IF YOU MULTIPLE. >> SO WE COULD PUT HALF THE

CITY. >> I MEAN YOU COULD. >> I WOULD HAVE TO THINK ABOUT

HOW MANY. >> THE UNIVERSITIES MAY HAVE 8 OR 9.

>>> HOW MANY DOES SAN ANTONIO HAVE? >> NINE.

>> THE STOCK YARD AND USE THEM FOR SPECK REASONS AND GO AWAY AFTER 25 YEARS.

>> WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING ONE BEFORE THE END OF THIS YEAR AND MAYBE WE'LL ADD OTHERS.

>> AT THIS POINT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE. WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT ONE AND HAS BEEN ELUDED TO WILL TAKE SEVERAL YEARS FOR US TO SEE THAT COME IN AND SO REALISTICALLY SPEAKING WE'RE WE SHOULD GET HAVING ONE RIGHT TO SHOW PEOPLE THE BENEFITS OF HAVING ONE BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN CONVERSATION ABOUT SETTING ANOTHER UP. IT WILL TAKE TIME TO GET TO THAT

POINT. >> IF I'M UNDERSTANDING IT RIGHT THE ONLY DOWNSIDE TO THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY IS THAT IF THERE IS SOME MAJOR PROJECT DOWNTOWN THAT GENERATES A LOT OF TAX, THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T GET THE BENEFIT OF THAT TAX. IT IS MORE LOCALIZED THE BY OF

THAT TAX IS USED LOCALLY. >> I WOULD ARGUE THEY DO GET THE BENEFIT OF IT BECAUSE THE MONEY GETS INVESTED INTO THEIR DOWNTOWN THAT WOULD BE MY ARGUMENT ON THAT.

>> MOST COMMUNITIES THE DOWNTOWN TIRZ BECAUSE PEOPLE FEEL LIKE DOWNTOWN BELONGS TO EVERYBODY BECAUSE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF DOWNTOWN THEY NEED WORK.

THE OTHER CHALLENGE WITH THE DOWNTOWN IS IF THEY'RE TOO OLD AND TOO HISTORIC YOU DON GET A LOT OF INCREMENT AND IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO PUT A DOWNTOWN TIRZ IN PLACE.

ON AN EMPTY LOT OR MAYBE SOMETHING COULD BE TORN DOWN THAT IS NOT HISTORITIC THAT MAKES SENSE. YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE IF THERE IS NOT GOING BE ANYTHING NEW DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO PUT A TIRZ IN PLACE AND IT IS ON REAL PROPERTY, NOT PERSONAL PROPERTY SO IT IS JUST ON THE REAL PROPERTY IN THE ZONE. SO I COULD TALK TIRZ ALL NIGHT BUT LET ME ARE HAVE CHANCE COME BACK UP HERE AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

>>> THANK YOU, TRAVIS A THAT WAS A LOT OF MATH. >>> A LOT OF OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS THAT GOES BEYOND THE FINANCING PERSPECTIVE OTHER ACTION YOU SHOULD CONSIDER, THINKING ABOUT HOW DO YOU HELP PEOPLE MAKE GOOD DECISIONS WITH THEIR PROPERTY HOW DO YOU MAKE THINGS EASIER FOR REDEVELOPMENT HOW DO YOU APPROACH THINGS LIKE COMMUNICATION AND ACCESS, BROAD

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>>> HE'S A BLACK BELT QUA RATTY. >> I'M DEFINITELY NOT THAT. YOU'RE GOING TO TO HAVE THINK ABOUT STAFFING RESOURCES AND ASKING A LOT OF DANIELLE, SHE IS FEISTY, BUT THIS IS A LOT OF WORK FOR HER, BUT THERE ARE CREATIVE WAYS TO APPROACH THIS WE LOVE INTERN PROGRAMS AND BUILD YOUR VOLUNTEER NETWORK. LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO WORK WITH THEM AND PARTNERS AND ALLIES THERE IS GOING TO BE CITIES THAT WILL BE JEALOUS OF WHAT YOU HAVE, USE IT.

LOOKING AT YOUR SPONSOR PROGRAM, REAL STRONG ACTION PLANS WHERE YOUR TAKING BITES ALONG THE WAY DOING EDUCATIONAL ENRICHMENT, WE'VE PROVIDED A LIST OF THINGS THAT WE'VE OBSERVED THAT WE THINK COULD BE GOOD STARTING POINTS. COMMUNICATING.

DOWNTOWN STANDS-ALONE WEBSITE WILL BE IMPORTANT IT SHOULD LINK TO EVERYTHING BUT NEEDS TO HAVE ITS OWN THING. UNIQUE BRANDING AND MERCHANDISING.

AND DOWNTOWN SPECIFIC EVENTS AND PROMOTIONS CALENDAR. WE DON'T TYPICALLY LOOK AT A BIG CITY, BUT CORPUS CRISTI DOWNTOWN HAS A REALLY NICE WEBSITE TO FIND EVERYTHING YOU NEED IN 2 TO 3 CLICKS THAT IS A GOOD METRIC. WITH PROGRAMMING, POP-UP SPACES. UNDERSTAND WHAT IS KEEPING THEM FROM BEING OPEN LATER BECAUSE THAT IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THEY NEED TO ACT TOGETHER FOR IT TO GET AT TENTION. BUSINESS COMPETITIONS AND OPEN FLAGS PROGRAM.

LITERALLY A FLAG THAT SAYS OPEN ON IT THAT YOU PUT OUT. THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT VISUAL FOR PEOPLE COMING TO DOWNTOWN THERE ARE THINGS OPEN. WE'D LOVE TO SEE A PUBLIC MURAL ARTS PROGRAM HERE. YOU HAVE 55 ARTIST AT THE LAST ARTWORK THAT IS YOUR STARTING TALK ABOUT DOING MURALS. TEST IDEAS. THEY'RE LOW COST, EASY TO DO.

BOOSTING FOOT TRAFFIC. GOT GREAT DIVING TOUR, YOU NEED WALKING TOURS.

THESE SHOULD HAVE THEMES TO THEM. YOU NEED TO TELL A MORE COMPLETE HISTORY TO YOUR COMMUNITY. SOMETIMES IT GETS MISSED IN THE CONVERSATION AND MAKING YOUR STOREFRONTS MORE ACTIVE. LOOKING AT CODE EDUCATION. HELPING PEOPLE UNDERSTAND HOW TO WORK WITH REGULATIONS. THINKING ABOUT HOW YOUR PUBLIC REALM OPERATES, YOUR CODE IS SILENT ON A LOT OF THINGS. SO SILENT THAT SOMETIMES YOU NEED TO AFFIRM THAT YES, YOU CAN DO THESE THINGS THAT IS ANOTHER WAY TO USEUTIONS. THINK ABOUT YOUR PARKING POLICY, THINK ABOUT JOINT PARKING AND BUSINESSES ONLY OPEN DURING THE DAY SO THEY CAN CONVERT AT NIGHT

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YOU NEED TO UPDATE THAT THAT WILL HELP YOU AND INCLUDED A CODE DIEING NOSTIC AND FOCUS ON DOWNTOWN AND CODE ISSUES AND REMEMBERING DOWNTOWN IS DIFFERENT FROM THE REST OF THE CITY, PARTS OF DOWNTOWN THAT ARE 175+ YEARS OLD. YOU NEED TO REMEMBER THAT WHEN LOOKING AT HOW TO APPROACH THIS. WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING HERE FROM HERE WE PUTTING TO THE MAIN CHAPTERS A FULL DRAFT COPY OF THE PLAN AND WE'LL BE CIRCLING BACK WITH Y'ALL IN MIDOCTOBER. TO TALK THROUGH FULL DOCUMENT, WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT.

WE'VE BEEN VERY INTENTIONAL IN MAKING SURE THERE ARE BIG TRANSFORMATIVE PROJECTS AND LITTLE PROJECTS IN BETWEEN. BUILD MOMENTUM, BUILD EXCITEMENT AND LET'S CREATE PRIDE IN YOUR DOWNTOWN, QUESTIONS OR SPECIFIC THINGS YOU'RE CURIOUS ABOUT WE'D LOVE TO ANSWER THOSE.

>>> SIMPLY PROVIDE THE DOCUMENT AND THAT WAY YOU CAN REVIEW IT AND BEFORE FORMALLY BEING ASKED

TO ADOPT IT. >> THANK YOU, MR. SPARKS, HAVE YOU GOT AN APARTMENT HERE, YET

IN SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE ALWAYS HERE. >> YOU NEED ONE DOWNTOWN.

>>> I HAVE CRASHED WITH FRIENDS ONCE OR BUSINESS. >>> GLAD YOU'RE WORKING ON IT.

>> WELL, THAT CONCLUDES OUR MEETING NO NEED FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

>> MAY I SAY SOMETHING. >> OH, SURE. >> I CAME HERE TO TALK ABOUT CATS BUT I HEARD ALL THIS WONDERFUL STUFF AND I LOVE THIS CITY, I CAME HERE, I WAS IN SAN DIEGO. AND I CAME I RESEARCHED AND RESEARCHED AND FOUND THIS TO BE

THE BEST TOWN IN AMERICA AND I STILL BELIEVE THAT. >> CAN WE GET YOU ON A

BILLBOARD. >> PAY TESTIMONY, I'LL GIVE IT TO YOU.

BUT I'M LISTENING TO THIS AND I DIDN'T COME HERE BECAUSE OF THIS CULTURAL THINGS I'M FROM NEW YORK CITY. THIS IS NEVER GOING TO COMPETE WITH NEW YORK.

I CAME HERE FROM SAN DIEGO. YOU DON'T HAVE THE BEST BEACHES. BUT YOU'VE GOT SOME REALLY GOOD STUFF HERE. AND I'M NOT SURE THAT A CULTURAL PLACE DOWNTOWN IS GOING TO ATTRACT THAT MANY PEOPLE. I -- THIS TOWN IS NOT GOING TO MAKE MONEY -- I MAKE PIZZA FOR YOU AND YOU MAKE MY SHIRTS IT IS OUTSIDE MONEY. SAN DIEGO HAS THE NAVY AND THAT IS HOW THEY GET THEIRS. THERE ARE THINGS HERE THAT CAN BE EXPLOITED AND I DIDN'T HEAR ANY OF TES THOSE THINGS EXPLOITED YOU HAVE LIST STORY. HOW ARE YOU GOING GET SOMEBODY TO COME HERE FOR VACATION RATHER THAN 100 MILES FROM HERE? I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING.

I HEARD IT WAS GOING TO BE PICNIC TABLES AND NICE STREETS. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT DOES.

I'LL TELL YOU WHAT IT DOES IS HISTORY. BRING PEOPLE HERE FOR THE HISTORY. ADVERTISE IT. THE DEPTH OF HISTORY IN THIS PART OF TEXAS, I GREW UP GOING TO WILLIAMSBURG FOR HISTORY AND IT DREW MY FAMILY THERE ALL THE TIME. YOU CAN DO THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT BY SAYING THIS IS A CULTURAL CENTER, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO EVER COMPETE. EVERYTHING I HEARD HERE IS LIKE YOU'RE COMPETING ON A MENU WITH OTHER CITIES THAT YOU CAN'T COMPETE WITH. BUT YOU HAVE SUCH FANTASTIC, UNIQUE THING HERE YOU DON HAVE TO COMPETE WITH THEM, BECAUSE THEY CAN'T COMPETE WITH YOU.

IDENTIFY THOSE THINGS. I'VE GOT FRIENDS IN CALIFORNIA THAT I'VE CONVINCED THAT HAVE GOT TO COME OUT HERE, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A FRIEND THERE IS NO RIFLE RANGE HERE, HE'S GOING START A RIFLE RANGE IN A GUN STORE. I HAVE FRIENDS IN LOCKHEED THAT WANTS TO TAKE CERTAIN PARTS OF LOCKHEED AND COME HERE BECAUSE OF THE HOUSING THE ENVIRONMENT, THE NICE -- THE DAY I MOVED HERE I HAD PEOPLE KNOCKING ON MY DOOR SAYING CAN WE HELP YOU.

I CAME FROM CALIFORNIA -- YOU KNOW, THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE UNIQUE HERE THAT YOU NEED TO NAIL DOWN AND IT IS NOT ABOUT CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS AND NOT ABOUT PICNIC TABLE I'M DYING

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CAN GET HERE YOU CAN'T GET ANYWHERE ELSE. >> YES, SIR.

THANK YOU. WELCOME TO VICTORIA GLAD YOU'RE PART OF IT.

NEED TO MEET DR. SHOOK. >> YES. >> ONE OF OUR HISTORIANS IS THE

REFERENCE. >>> MEETING ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.