May 18, 2021 City Council

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] . >>> WELCOME TO THE MEETING FOR MAY

[A. CALL TO ORDER]

APRIL? >> COUNTY DELL GARZA. >> PRESENT.

>> HERE. >> COUNTY WOMAN SCOTT. >> HERE.

>> COUNTY MAN YOUNG. >> (OF ALLEGIANCE AND REMAIN STANDING FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE.

OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND THOSE IN ATTENDANCE TO PAPER THEIR HEARTS AND MINUTES TO APPROPRIATELY DO THE BUSINESS OF OUR CITY.

SEATING IN THE COUNTY SYMPTOM CHAMBERS REMAINS LIMIT DEED ALLOW FOR SOCIAL DISTANCING.

THERE'S STILL MANY RESIDENTS IN A HIGH-RISK POPULATION. FOR THOSE REASONS WE'LL CONTINUE ALLOWING CITIZEN PARTICIPATION THROUGH VIDEO CONFERENCING. TO LEARN ABOUT ALL THE WAYS YOU CAN WATCH THE MEETING AND PARTICIPATE REMOTELY WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO VISIT WWW.VICTORIAS X.GOV/TALK TO COUNCIL. YOU HAVE OPTIONS TO PARTICIPATE TONIGHT RANGING FROM WATCHING ON TV OR SPEAKING IN CITIZENS COMMENTS THROUGH ZOOM.

AT THIS TIME CITY SECRETARY APRIL HILLRIDGE WILL ADMINISTER THE OATH OF OFFICE.

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[OATH]. >> . >> .

>>> WE'LL NOW ELECT A MAYOR PRO-TEM. >> THANK YOU.

ARTICLE TWO SECTION 6 OF THE CITY CHARTER STATES THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL ELECT 116 MALL MEMBER AT PRO PRO TEAR AFTER FIRST THAT THE LEE LEG TOUCH MAYOR PRO-TEM SHALL HOLD THE TITLE AND OFFICE UNTIL EXPIRATION OF THEIR TERM WHICH THE ELECTED COUNCILMEMBER.

MAYOR PRO-TEM SOLIZ TERM ENDED THIS MONTH. ALTHOUGH SHE WAS REELECTED TO BE THE COUNTY SYMPTOM MEMBER FOR DISTRICTED TWO THEY MUST CONDUCT AN ELECTION FOR MAYOR FREE EDGE TO DETERMINE WHO WILL BE MAYOR PRO-TEM. SHE COULD BE ELECTED BEGIN IF COUNCIL CHOOSES. WE'LL ASK FOR NOMINATIONS FOR MAYOR PRO-TEM. I NOM MAY

JOSEPHINE SOLIZ. >> ANY ADDITIONAL NOMINATIONS? I HAVE TO ASK THREE TIMES.

ANY ADDITIONAL NOMINATIONS? WE ONLY HAVE ONE PERSON NOMINATED THAT TIME.

I PUT BALLOTS ON YOUR DESK BUT IF THERE'S ONLY ONE PERSON YOU CAN VOTE VERBALLY IF YOU SO

CHOOSE. >> I MOVE WE ELECT JOE FEIGN SOLIZ AS MARROW ITEM.

>> SECOND. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. >> AYE.

>> ALL THOUGH OPPOSED. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> CONGRATULATIONS.

I APPRECIATE IT. >> DO YOU HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS THIS EVENING?

>> NO, MADAM MAYOR PRO-TEM. NO ANNOUNCEMENTS TODAY. >> NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE PUBLIC EMPLOYEE RECOGNITIONS. ARE WE DOING THE EMPLOY RECOGNITIONS FIRST?

>> ARE WE DOING THE EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION, APRIL? >> I'VE GOT DERRICK OVER THERE.

>> WE COULD READ THE PROCLAMATIONS OR WE COULD DO THE EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION.

IT'S UP TO YOU, MA'AM. >> LET'S DO THE PROCLAMATIONS BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE

FOR THAT. >> OKAY. >> LET'S DO THE ONE FOR THE

[a. Motorcycle Safety and Awareness Month Proclamation. Josephine E. Soliz...]

[APPLAUSE] >> YOU CAN GO TO THE MICROPHONE. >> NOW I CAN'T FIND IT.

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>> MOTORCYCLE RIDERS WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE CITY OF VICTORY ON DECLARING THE MONTH OF MAY MOTORCYCLE AWARED INS AND WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK THE INDEPENDENCE CLUBS THAT CAME OUT TO SHOW SUPPORT AND TO SHOW AWARENESS IN THE CITY THAT WE ARE FATHERS AND MOTHERS AND

GRANDPARENTS, RENTS, LOOK TWICEA LIFE. >> THANK YOU.

>> THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

[c. Stop the Bleed Proclamation. Josephine E. Soliz, Mayor Pro-Tem]

>> GINA. NEXT WE'LL HAVE THE PROCLAMATION FOR THE STOP THE BLEED PROGRAM.

>> WHEREAS ACTS OF TERRORISM AND UNSTABLE INDIVIDUALS CAN LEAD TO CASUALTIES WITH MASSIVE BLEEDING WHERE IF RESPONSES IS DELAYED CAN RESULT IN DEATH. MAY 2020 IS NATIONAL STOP THE BLEED DAY WHEREAS THE GENERAL PUBLIC LEARN AND CPR AND LEARN PROPER LEADING CONTROL TECHNIQUES INCLUDING HOW TO USE YOUR HANDS AND DRESSINGS AND TOURNIQUETS.

VICTIMS CAN DIE QUICKLY WITHIN FIVE TO TEN MINUTES WITHOUT THE BLEEDING CONTROLLED.

WE CAN HELP PREPARE YOU IN THE EVENT YOU ARE THE WITNESS TO ONE OF THESE UNSPEAKABLE EVENTS WHEREAS THE GOLDEN CRESCENT ADVISORY COUNCIL IS PARTNERED TO TEACH THE STOP THE BLEED TRAINING TO THE CITIZENS OF VICTORIA AND THE GOLDEN CRESCENT REGION.

BY THE AUTHORITY VESTED IN ME AS THE MAYOR PRO-TEM OF THE CITY OF VICTORY DESIGNATE MAY 20, 2021S AS NATIONAL STOP THE BLEED DAY IN VICTORIA, TEXAS. [APPLAUSE]

[b. EMS Week Proclamation. Josephine E. Soliz, Mayor Pro-Tem]

>> . >> THE NEXT PROCLAMATION IS ON EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES WEEK.

WHEREAS EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES IS A VITAL PUBLIC SERVICE AND WHEREAS THE MEMBERS OF EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES TEAMS ARE READY TO PROVIDE LIFESAVING CARE TO THOSE IN NEED 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK E WHEREAS ACCESS TO QUALITY EMERGENCY CARE DRAMATICALLY IMPROVES THE SURVIVAL AND RECOVERY RATE OF THOSE WHO EXPERIENCE SUDDEN ILLNESS OR INJURY AND WHEREAS EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES HAS GROWN TO FILL A GAP BY PROVIDING IMPORTANT OUT-OF-HOSPITAL CARE INCLUDING PREVENTATIVE MEDICINE AND FOLLOW-UP CARE AND ACCESS TO TELEMETHOD REPUBLICAN AND THE SYSTEM CONSISTS OF FIRST RESPONDERS AND EMERGENCY MEDICAL TECHNICIANS AND PARAMEDICS AND MADAM MAYOR PRO-TEM MEDICAL DISPATCHERS, FIREFIGHTERS, POLICE OFFICERS, ADMINISTRATORS, EDUCATORS, PREHOSPITAL NURSES, EMERGENCY ATMOSPHERES, PHYSICIANS, TRAINED MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND OTHER OUT OF HOSPITAL MEDICAL CARE PROVIDES AND WHEREAS THE MEMBERS OF EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES TEAM WHETHER CAREER OR VOLUNTEER ENGAGE IN NOW SENDS OF HOURS OF SPECIALIZED TRAINING AND CONTINUING EDUCATION TO ENHANCE THEIR LIFESAVING SKILLS AND WHEREAS IT'S APPROPRIATE TO RECOGNIZE AND VALUE THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF THE EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES PROVIDERS BY DESIGNATING EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES WEEK NOW THEREFORE I, DESIGNATE THE WEEK AS EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES WEEK IN

VICTORIA, TEXAS. [APPLAUSE] >> THANK YOU, I'M REPRESENTING THE RACK AS CAROLYN KNOX IS THE CHAIR AND MELINDA FOX IS THE VICE CHAIR.

THANKS FOR BRINGING ATTENTION TO THIS. COVID HAS DISTRACTED US A LITTLE BIT AND KIND OF CHANGED OUR MISSION PAST YEAR BUT STOP THE BLEED IS A VERY IMPORTANT MISSION AND OUR RACK HAS TRAINED WELL OVER 2,000, 3,000 -- 8,000 PEOPLE IN THE CROSSROADS REGION.

I WAS A LITTLE OFF. BUT WHAT THAT TRAINING DOES IS AS THE PROCLAMATION STATES IT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO BE EDUCATED AND TO SAVE A LIFE IN AN EMERGENCY AND JUST RIGHT OVER HERE IF YOU LOOK ON TOP OF THE AED THOSE ARE STOP THE BLUED KITS AND THAT'S WHAT THOSE ARE FOR, TO STOP THE

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ON BEHALF OF EMS, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING ATTENTION TO THE EMS WORLD AND TO WHAT THE DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES THAT EMS SERVICES PROVIDE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO THE LEADERSHIP LIKE MR. RAFAEL DELAGARZA WHO WAY BACK WHEN STARTED WITH THE VICTORIA EMS HAS JUST SET A GOLD STANDARD FOR EMS IN THE VICTORIA REGION AND WE CONTINUE TO BUILD ON HIS LEGACY AND ALL THE WORK THEY DID WITH VICTORIA EMS SO THANK YOU FOR THAT RECOGNITION AND

PROCLAMATION. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE] >> . >> EMPLOYEE RECOGNITIONS.

>> YES. MAYOR PRO-TEM WE HAVE ONE TODAY SO TODAY WE WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE OUR MUNICIPAL COURT OFFICE SO THE OFFICE WE RECENTLY RECEIVED NATIONAL RECOGNITION FOR THE TYLER PUBLIC SECTOR EXCELLENCE AWARD FOR ITS INNOVATIVE USE OF TECHNOLOGY ENCODE COURT SOFTWARE. THE COURT WAS SELECTED NATIONWIDE AND WINNER ACROSS 17 STATES RECOGNIZED FOR THIS AWARD. THIS IS A HIGHLY REGARDED AWARD.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'RE ALSO VERY THANKFUL FOR OUR IT DEPARTMENT AS WELL WHO HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING US WITH YOUR SOFTWARE SYSTEM SO THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

[3. Items from Council:]

>> . >> ITEM FROM COUNCIL. ARE THERE ANY ITEMS NOT OTHERWISE LISTED IN THE AGENDA FOR WHICH MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST SPECIFIC FACTUAL INFORMATION AND RESUSCITATION OF EXISTING POLICY OR PLACEMENT OF FUTURE AGENDAS?

>> . >> I HAVE THE ONE ON THERE. THE POINT IS MOOT.

I STARTED WORKING WITH MR. RAFAEL DELAGARZA LAST WEEK AND SPOKE TO MS. SOLIZ ABOUT FACIAL COVERINGS IN THE CITY BUILDINGS AND MR. RAFAEL DELAGARZA WORKED WITH HIS TEAM AND CHIEF FOX. THANK YOU. AND SPOKE WITH LOCAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT, DR. MCKNEEL AND EVERYBODY CAME TO THE SAME CONCLUSION THAT IT WAS TIME TO REMOVE THAT AND SAW TODAY THE GOVERNOR ACTUALLY PUT IT INTO EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT BY FRIDAY IT WILL HAVE TO HAVE ANYWAY OR YOU'LL GET FINED. I WANT TO THANK MR. GARZA AND

HIS TEAM. >> THANK YOU FOR INITIATING THAT DISCUSSION, IF YOU'RE THE ONE

[4. Citizen Communication:]

THAT INITIATED IT. >> A REMINDER, CITIZENS COMMUNICATION MAY BE DONE IN PERSON OR THROUGH VIDEO CONFERENCING. WE WOULD ENCOURAGE ANYONE WHO HAS HAD A RECENT EXPOSURE TO COVID-19 OR THOSE THAT MAY BE IN HIGH RISK POPULATION GROUP TO MAKE SURE -- MAKE USE OF THE VIDEO CONFERENCE OPTIONS. THOSE INSTRUCTIONS ARE AVAILABLE AT WWW.VICTORIA TX.GOV/TALK TO COUNCIL. COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES IN DURATION AND RECEIVED BY AUDIO ONLY. THERE'LL BE NO OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE ANY PRESENTATION OR VISUAL MATERIALS EITHER IN PERSON OR VIA TELECONFERENCE.

PLEASE REMEMBER TO SILENCE CELL PHONES OR TVS OR OTHER BACKGROUND NOISE SO THAT WE MAY HEAR YOU CLEARLY WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR COMMENTS. IT IS GENERALLY THE PRACTICE OF THE CITY COUNCIL NOT TO RESPOND TO COMMENTS MADE DURING THIS TIME BUT CITY STAFF WILL BE AVAILABLE TO FOLLOW UP AS NECESSARY. IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ABOUT THE CRESTWOOD DRIVE PHASE ONE TRAFFIC FLOW PLEASE REFRAIN FROM COMMENTING UNTIL THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THAT ITEM WHEN WE DO THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THAT ITEM.

I HAVE SOME COMMENT CARDS. I WAS GOING TO ALSO SAY THAT ON THE FARMERS MARKET CAN YOU WAIT UNTIL WE TALK ABOUT THE FARMERS MARKET, MEREDITH? I APPRECIATE IT.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK THROUGH VIDEO CONFERENCE USE THE RAISE

HAND BUTTON NOW. JAMES, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY? >> MADAM MAYOR PRO-TEM, IT'S NOT

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ITEM PORTION OF THE MEETING. >> DO YOU WANT TO COME ON UP, MEREDITH?

OR DO YOU WANT TO WAIT? YOU WOULD RATHER COME YOU NOW? >> I DON'T REALLY -- IS THERE AN

ADVANTAGE TO NOW VERSUS LATER? >> JUST THE LENGTH OF OUR MEMORIES.

>> STARTING THE TIMER. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCILMEMBERS.

MY NAME IS MEREDITH BIRD WITH THE FOOD BANK OF THE GOLDEN CRESCENT AND I'M THE MANAGER OF THE VICTORIA FARMERS MARKET. I'M HERE TODAY TO ASK THAT YOU APPROVE OUR APPLICATION FOR A DESIGNATED FARMERS MARKET STATUS. THE VICTORIA FARMERS MARKET IS A WEEKLY YEAR-AROUND FARMERS MARKET HELD EVERY SATURDAY AT THE PATTY DODSON CENTER FROM 9:00 A.M. TO 1:00 P.M. AND ALL VENDORS AT OUR FARMERS MARKET ARE ONLY ALLOWED TO SELL WHAT THEY GROW, RAISE OR MAKE THEMSELVES. THIS MEANS YOU MIGHT FIND SEASONAL FRUITS AND VEGETABLES, PASTURED MEATS, BEEF, CHICKEN, PORK, TURKEY, LAMB, FARM EGGS AND A VARIETY OF HOME MAIDS FOODS, PICKLES, JELLIES, SALSAS, LOCAL HONEY, BAKED GOODS, PLANTS, WINES AND COFFEES, DRIED HERBS AND SEASONINGS AND CANDIES AND A SMALL NUMBER OF ART ITEM.

ALL PRODUCE MUST BE FROM THAT VENDOR'S GARDEN. ALL MEATS AND EGGS MUST BE FROM THAT FARMER'S ANIMALS. WE ARE A TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE CERTIFIED FARMERS MARKET. THAT'S A DESIGNATION THAT WE HAVE TO APPLY FOR YEARLY AND THAT WE'VE HELD EVERY YEAR SINCE '16. FRANKLY THERE NOISE COMPARABLE MARKET WITHIN ABOUT 100 MILES, A WEEKLY YEAR-AROUND PRODUCER MARKET WITH THE NUMBER AND VARIETY OF OFFERINGS THAT WE HAVE. I'M INSANELY PROUD OF THAT.

WE DO NOT ALLOW RESALE OF ANY TYPE AT OUR MARKET. AS I STATED BEFORE, YOU CAN SELL WHAT YOU GROW, RAISE, OR MAKE YOURSELF AND WE ENFORCE THAT STRICTLY AND THAT SPEAKS TO THE INTEGRITY OF OUR MARKET AND VENDORS AND PRODUCTS AND IT'S SOMETHING OUR CUSTOMERS REALLY DEMAND. AND I'LL GET CUSTOMERS COMING UP TO ME ON SATURDAYS ASKING, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE A NEW CUSTOMER. IS THIS ONE OF THOSE MARKETS WHERE VENDORS ARE ALLOWED TO GO BY WHOLE SALE PRODUCE AND TURN AROUND AND SELL IT? AND THE ANSWER IS ALWAYS AN UNEQUIVOCAL NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT. OUR MEMBERSHIP BOASTS 48 LOCAL SMALL FARMS AND BUSINESSES, 22 OF THOSE FROM WITHIN VICTORIA COUNTY.

WE HAVE 42 FOOD AND AGRICULTURE VENDORS, SIT ARTISAN VENDORS, 87 PERCENT FOOD AND AG AND 13 PERCENT NONFOOD. WE ARE AN ESSENTIAL COMMUNITY SERVICE SUPPORTING LOCAL FARMS AND BUSINESSES AND PROVIDING A WAY FOR THE PUBLIC TO PURCHASE LOCAL FOODS EVERY SATURDAY DIRECTLY FROM THE FARMERS AND THE FOOD PRODUCERS. WE HAD TWO FOOD SHORT INCHES IN ONE YEAR, MARCH OF 2020 AND AGAIN THIS PAST FEBRUARY DUE TO THE FREEZE.

THAT BROUGHT COUNTLESS NEW CUSTOMERS TO OUR MARKETS WHEN OTHER RETAILERS IN TOWN WERE WIPED OUT AND SO THAT SPEAKS TO OUR COMMUNITY SERVICE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR ABIDING TO THE THREE MINUTES.

>> THE NEXT PERSON THAT WE HAVE IS MICHAEL WALDERROM. >> HI.

I'M MICHAEL FROM 2204 EAST NORTH STREET AND WE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH DOGS AT LARGE AND THE PROBLEM ISN'T EDUCATION BECAUSE PEOPLE KNOW YOU'VE GOT TO USE A LEASH EVEN ELEMENTARY CHILDREN AND THE BIG PROBLEM IS THEY -- ANIMAL CONTROL GETS THEM IN THE CAGES AND THEY PAY THE $75 FINE AND THEN THEY RELEASE IT AND THEN YOU CATCH IT A WEEK LATER. THEY PAY THE $75 FINE AND THEN THEY RELEASE IT. AND I JUST WISH THEY COULD DISCONTINUE THE $75 FINE AND SEND IT STRAIGHT TO MUNICIPAL COURT AND LET THE MUNICIPAL COURT EDUCATE THEM BECAUSE IT'S NOT WORKING WITH ANIMAL CONTROL AND THE FINES ARE $267 AT THE MUNICIPAL COURT LEVEL AND WHEN

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IT'S SIMILAR TO A NONJUDICIAL PUNISHMENT IN THE NAVY WHERE YOU GET PUNISHED BY YOUR COMMANDER AND IT DON'T GO ON THE CIVILIAN RECORD SO IT WOULD BE SIMILAR TO GETTING LIKE A WARNING TICKET FROM A POLICE OFFICER AND MY NEIGHBOR, I CAUGHT HIS DOG LIKE THREE TIMES IN TWO MONTHS AND HE'S LAUGHING. IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE HE PAYS THE $75 AND GETS IT AND A LOT OF THE PEOPLE DON'T WORK OR HAVE A JOB SO THEY GO INTO THE TRAPS AND RELEASE IT AND IT'S JUST GETTING RIDICULOUS. I EVEN CALLED A PREGNANT PITBULL AND THE PEOPLE WON'T GET THE DOGS FIXED. WE'VE HAD INJURIES THROUGH DOG BITES AND EVEN IN THE TRAILER PARK ONE OF THE DOGS HAS BIT TWO PEOPLE AND POLICE AND ANIMAL CONTROL HAD TO COME AND OF COURSE WE HAVE ANIMAL ABUSE IN MY AREA. I REMEMBER THE POLICE AND THE ANIMAL CONTROL, THEY WORK TOGETHER, AND THE DOG HADN'T BEEN FED IN LIKE A WEEK AND THEY COULDN'T WALK ON THEIR OWN AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE CRIMINAL PROSECUTIONS FOR ANIMAL CONTROL AND IT'S REALLY FRUSTRATING FOR EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY. ONE PERSON, HE GOT SO FRUSTRATED HE PUT SOME GOPHER BAIT AND MIXED MEAT TOGETHER AND PUT I IT ON HIS PROPERTY LINES AND HE FIGURED IF THE DOG GOT IT HE WOULDN'T BE RESPONSIBILITY AND THEY DID FIND OUT ABOUT IT AND THEY DID PROSECUTE HIM BUT THE JURY FOUND HIM NOT GUILTY AND I THINK THE REASON FOR IT IS BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE FRUSTRATED WITH ALL THESE DOGS RUNNING AROUND AND REALLY NO ONE'S DOING ANYTHING AND I WISH ON THE THIRD OFFENSE IN A YEAR'S TIME THEY CAN JUST MAKE IT A CLASS B MISDEMEANOR AND JUST CUFF THEM UP AND PUT THEM IN A JAIL A FEW DAYS AND THEY CAN HAVE THE DEPUTY OR THE POLICE OFFICER ED CAME THEM WHY THEY'RE IN JAIL BECAUSE THIS EDUCATION IS NOT THE ANSWER. IT'S NOT WORKING AND ANIMAL CONTROL HAS EDUCATED THEM AND IT'S NOT WORKING. MAYBE THE CITY MUNICIPAL JUDGE CAN EDUCATE THEM.

THANKS AND HAVE A GOOD DAY. APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU, MICHAEL.

>> ITEMS FOR PUBLIC HEARING AND THE FIRST ONE IS AN UPDATE ON CRESS WOOD PHASE ONE TRAFFIC FLOW. FIRST WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM AND THEN HEAR THE PRESENTATION FROM STAFF. IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND FEATURE ON ZOOM OR SUBMIT A COMMENT CARD TO CITY STAFF.

I DO HAVE ONE FROM MR. WALTER HAWKMAN. >> ARE PEOPLE NOT ALLOWED TO SPEAK UNLESS THEY FILLED OUT A CARD? I NOTICED YOU DIDN'T ASK IF THERE WAS ANYONE ELSE AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE MIGHT BE SOMEBODY HERE, NOT ON CRESTWOOD.

HAS THE PARTY CHANGED? >> NO. I WAS DOING THE CARD FIRST AND THEN IT SAYS I'M SUPPOSED TO ASK ABOUT THE PEOPLE, IF ANYBODY ELSE IS HERE.

>> BUT YOU HAVE MOVED INTO CRESTWOOD. THERE MIGHT BE SOMEBODY HERE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK ON SOMETHING OTHER THAN CRESTWOOD. I MAY BE WRONG BUT I DON'T THINK

IF YOU ASKED IF THERE WAS ANYONE HERE. >> I ASKED JAMES IF THERE WAS

ANYBODY THAT WANTED TO SPEAK A WHILE AGO AND HE SAID NO. >> THAT WOULD BE ON ZOOM.

IS THERE ANYONE IN THE CHAMBER THAT WANTS TO SPEAK? >> ANYONE ON CHAMBER WHO WISHES

TO SPEAK ON ANY OTHER MATTER? COME ON UP, PLEASE. >> THANK YOU.

>> . >> I WOULD LIKE SPEAK ABOUT THE TANGLE WOOD SUBDIVISION.

IT'S AN OLD SUBDIVISION. IT WAS STARTED IN THE 1950S, EARLY 1960S, SO IT'S ABOUT 60 YEARS OLD, AND MS. SCOTT HAD TOLD ME FIVE YEARS AGO THAT OUR SUBDIVISION WOULD BE -- OUR STREETS WOULD BE REDONE COMPLETELY AND WE WOULD GET NEW SEWER LINES, NEW WATER LINES IN 2021. I'VE GOT IT POSTED IN MY REFRIGERATOR DOOR.

OKAY. NOW SHE TELLS ME YOU ALL KNOCKED IT OFF THE TABLE.

WHY? OKAY. I TELL YOU, PATCHING PATCHES IS NOT WORKING. NOW OUR PATCHES ARE GROWING LARGER.

NOW THEY ARE 12 BY 20 ON THE SIDE OF THE STREETS AND IT'S NOT WORKING.

AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY. I'VE BEEN HAVING TROUBLE WITH MY SIGNAL LIGHTS IN MY TRUCK AND

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I TOOK IT TO THE MECHANIC AND HE SAID, MA'AM, YOU NEED TO STOP GOING OVER POTHOLES.

I SAID, I'M JUST GOING IN AND OUT OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IT'S MOSTLY HILLS AND VALLEYS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. JUST LIKE THIS. LIKE THIS.

IT'S SO BAD MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR IN HIS ABILITIES AND WITH PARKINSON'S AND HIS WIFE TOLD ME HE'S RELUCTANT TO GO TO THE DOCTOR APPOINTMENTS BECAUSE IT'S SO PAINFUL FOR HIM TO GET OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND COME BACK IN. IT'S PAINFUL.

IT'S BUMPY, IT'S TERRIBLE. THE ENTRANCE ON TEAK WOOD, FORGET IT.

IT'S A DAYS GRACE. IT'S JUST A TERRIBLE DISGRACE. THIS IS SO UNFAIR.

WHY IS WOODWAY PICKED BEFORE US? WHY IS BRAMBLEWOOD PICKED BEFORE US? IS SOMEBODY BIAS HERE? DOES SOMEBODY HAVE RELATIVES LIVING THERE? OR YOURSELF AND YOU ALL PICKED THOSE. YOU ALLOCATED 2.7 MILLION TO STREETS. WHAT DO WE GET? WE GET NOTHING.

NO, SIR. AND Y'ALL, FOUR OR FIVE OR WHATEVER, HAVE MADE A LIAR OUT OF MS. SCOTT BECAUSE SHE'S SAID WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IT AND NOW IT'S OFF THE TABLE.

SO YOU OTHER GUYS MADE A LIAR OUT OF HER. DO YOU UNDERSTAND? YOU MADE A LIAR OUT OF MS. SCOTT. WE ARE NOT GOING TO PUT UP WITH IT. THERE'S PEOPLE HERE FROM TANGLE WOOD THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ALSO SO I DON'T WANT TO TAKE TOO MUCH TIME BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE FOR OTHERS TO SPEAK BUT I AM ANGRY. I AM 81 YEARS OLD AND I'M GOING TO FIGHTER CITY HALL.

I WILL FIGHT CITY HALL. MY SON SAID, MOM YOU'LL BE CARRIED OUT OF THERE IN CUFFS, SO BE IT. LET THEM CARRY ME OUT IN CUFFS. THIS IS IMPORTANT TO ME.

AND AT 81, I SAY WHAT I THINK. OKAY. SOMEBODY ELSE MIGHT WANT TO HAVE THE MIC. Y'ALL ARE WELCOME TO COME AND SPEAK.

>> YOU WANT TO GO TALK TO THEM? YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? GO FOR IT.

AND WE'RE ALL OLD. WE'RE IN OUR 80S. >> HELLO.

I'M DON KAUFMAN. I LIVE IN -- [INDISCERNIBLE] . THE POLICY HOLES ARE OUTRAGEOUS AND THEY KEEP COMING IN AND PATCHING THEM AND THEN THEY'LL COME BACK IN AND REPATCH THEM AND THE STREETS IN THERE ARE JUST LIKE A WAR. AND IF SOMEBODY HAS BACK PROBLEMS, WHICH MY WIFE HAS, EVERY TIME WE GO OUT SHE SAYS, OUCH, OH, AND IT'S BECOME RIDICULOUS. THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO REDO THEM IN '21, AND HERE IT IS, '21 AND WE'RE ALREADY HALFWAY THROUGH THE YEAR AND WE'RE STILL DEALING WITH THE SAME STUFF. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY. THANK YOU.

>> MY NAME IS LUKE MARTINEZ, AND I LIVE IN TANGLE WOOD ON WEST WOOD STREET AND, YES, THESE ARE MY NEIGHBORS AND LIKE THEY'RE SAYING, I'M IN THE SAME BOAT THEY ARE.

WE LIVE FOUR OR FIVE HOUSES APART FROM EACH OTHER, FOR FARTHER, BUT MOST OF THE STREET IS PRETTY BAD. I CAN EITHER GO FISHING AND FIGHT THE WAVES OR I CAN GO DOWN WEST WOOD STREET AND FIGHT THE ROAD. BUT I HAVE A WIFE THAT'S HAD BACK SURGERY AND DETERIORATING RISKS ON HER AND SO EVEN THOUGH SHE'S HAD AN OPERATION, HER DISCS ARE NOT HOLDING UP AND IT'S TRUE, EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE SAYING.

EVEN THOUGH I HADN'T MENTIONED IT TO THEM BUT SHE'S ALWAYS MOANING AND GROANING AS WE GO

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THE STRUTS ON MY TRUCK, THEY'RE WORE OUT, YOU KNOW, AND I HADN'T REALLY SEEN THAT BEFORE.

THEY WERE OUT SO SOON. OF COURSE IF YOU'RE OUT THERE IN THE PASTURE AND YOU ARE RUNNING UP THE COWS OR WHATEVER I COULD UNDERSTAND THAT BUT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD STREET IT'S PRETTY BAD. SO ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR YOU ALL TO TAKE A GOOD SERIOUS LOOK AT IT AND THINK ABOUT IT AND SEE WHAT YOU ALL CAN DO FOR US. THANK YOU.

[1. Update on Crestwood Phase I Traffic Flow. Mike Etienne, Assistant City...]

>> . >> ANYONE ELSE. >> THANK YOU.

>> UPDATE ON CRESTWOOD PHASE ONE, WALTER, MR. HAWKEN. >> .

>> OKAY. >> LADIES AND GENTLEMEN ON THE CITY COUNCIL AND MANAGER OF VICTORIA. ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE RECENTLY RECONSTRUCTED SECTION OF CRESTWOOD WE WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR LISTENING AND RESPONDING TO THE SAFETY AND RESIDENTIAL CONCERNS THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING, AND FOLLOWING THE RECENT RESIDENTIAL GATHERING HELD LAST THURSDAY WE WANTED TO THANK OUR CITY COUNCIL PEYTON MANNING, MR. RAFAEL DELAGARZA,ED CHIEF JAMISON WHO ADVISED HE MADE A STOP WHILE WAITING FOR THE GATHERING TO START AND WE ALSO WANT TO THANK THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, MR. ATIN, CITY ENGINEER, MR. GIBB AND VICTORIA ADVOCATE, MS. DELORA, FOR TAKING TIME OUT OF THEIR BUSY LIVES TO COME AND LISTEN AND ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT AFFECT OUR DAILY LIVES. I DELIVERED A NEIGHBORHOOD QUESTIONNAIRE TO ALLOW RESIDENTS TO VOTE ON THE PROPOSED LAYOUT THAT WE WERE GIVEN.

EVERY HOUSEHOLD CONTACTED VOTED THAT IT IS THE BEST OPTION AVAILABLE.

WE REALIZE OF REALIZE THAT THE PROPOSED CHANGES AREN'T IDEAL FOR US BUT WE KNOW THEY'RE THE MOST EASIEST AND MOST COST EFFECTIVE. I UNDERSTAND FROM WHAT WAS PRESENTED THE COST TO RESTRIPE THE STAGE BELOW THE RECONSTRUCTTION BUDGET AND HOPEFULLY THE RESIDENTS OF THE SECTION CURRENTLY UNDER RECONSTRUCTION WILL BE PRESENTED THE PROPOSED LAYOUT FOR THEM TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS COMING. AT THE LAST MEETING THERE WAS A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT WERE PUT OUT. ONE WAS WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE EXISTING ROAD WITH THE TRAFFIC RIGHT BESIDE OUR DRIVES WAYS AND SIDEWALKS, THE WAY IT IS NOW, AND THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT BARRIER CURB IS NO LONGER THERE TO DEFLECT OUT-OF-CONTROL VEHICLES AS WAS SHOWN WITH THAT ONE VEHICLE THAT WAS PARKED UP IN HIS YARD PARTLY ON THE SIDEWALK AND BUT IN HIS YARD AND SO HE WAS ACTUALLY UP IN HIS YARD WHEN THE VEHICLE HIT HIM. SO NOW THE CURBING ONLY HAS ABOUT AN INCH AND A HALF RAISED ALL ALONG THE LING OF THAT ROAD WHICH KIND OF MAKES IT INTERESTING PULLING INTO OUR DRIVEWAY AS WE NEGOTIATE AND COME UP AGAINST THAT LIP. THE RESIDENTS OF EAST CRESTWOOD DRIVE THANK YOU ALL FOR ADDRESSING THIS ISSUE. THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME AS WELL.

>> THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK TO US ABOUT THE CRESTWOOD?

YES? >> THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO-TEM. I WASN'T PLANNING ON SPEAKING AND I'M NOT VERY GOOD AT THESE THINGS BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE REASONABLENESS THAT YOU'VED A DOSED THIS ISSUE. WE HAD EXPECTED A LOT MORE RESISTANCE FROM YOU GUYS AS YOU CAUGHT THE BRUNT OF TANGLE WOOD, BROUHAHA, AND WELL, EXPECTING THAT AS WELL AND YOU WERE BEING QUITE REASONABLE IN HEARING AND ADDRESSING OUR CONCERNS AND WE KNOW THAT WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN INVOLVED EARLY ON IN THE DESIGN STAGE AND THAT'S ON YOU. BUT YOU DID ADDRESS OUR PRIORITIES AS WELL AS THE TRAFFIC FLOW AND LIKE WALTER SAYS, IT MAY NOT BE THE IDEAL

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THANK YOU. >> . >> ANYONE ELSE?

>> YES, MADAM MAYOR PRO-TEM AND GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. BEFORE I ASK KEN GILL TO COME FORWARD AS YOU HEARD FROM THE RESIDENTS SINCE THE MAY 4 COUNCIL MEETING WE HAVE MET ONE ON ONE WITH THE AREA RESIDENTS, WITH THE CRESTWOOD RESIDENTS AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK COUNCILMAN RAFAEL DELAGARZA, COUNCILMAN BAUKNIGHT. THE RESIDENTS BOUGHT INTO THIS CONSENSUS AND SUPPORTED IT BECAUSE WHEN WE MET THEM THEY SAID THE MAIN PROBLEMS WERE THAT WAS THE SPEED OF TRAFFIC, SAFETY OR LACK OF A BARRIER BETWEEN THE SIDEWALKS AND THE TRAFFIC AND THEN THIRD WAS THE LACK OF STREET PARKING SO WE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH THE RESIDENTS, SHOWED THEM THE PLANS OF WHAT WE PROPOSED TO DO AND THERE WAS CONSENSUS ON THE RESTRIPING OPTION. SO THE RESTRIPING OPTION ESSENTIALLY DOES THREE THINGS.

ONE IS THAT IT REMOVES THE CENTER LANE OR CENTER TURNING LANE.

TWO, IT ADDS PARKING ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE STREET. AND THEN THREE, IT ADDS A FOUR-FOOT BUFFER ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ROAD AWAY. SO THAT'S ESSENTIALLY TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF THE RESIDENTS. AGAIN WE REACHED CONSENSUS BECAUSE WE MET AND WE TALKED AND ESSENTIALLY WE CAME UP WITH A GOOD SOLUTION WHICH I THINK IS A WIN-WIN AS WE GO FORWARD.

AGAIN, THANK YOU TO DO THE COUNCILMEMBERS AND TO THE RESIDENTS, MR. HAWKENS, MR. WALLER WHO PARTICIPATED IN THE CONVERSATION, AND CONVENING THE MEETINGS TO COME UP WITH A GOOD COMMUNITY SOLUTION. SO AT THIS TIME, MADAM MAYOR PRO-TEM AND COUNCIL I WOULD LIKE TO ASK OUR CITY ENGINEER TO COME FORWARD AND SHOW THE OPTION THAT WE CAME UP WITH.

>> WHERE MY CLICKER GO. DERRICK STOLE IT. OKAY.

REAL QUICK, THIS WAS IN THE LAST MEETING. WE DID COLLECTOR STREET BACK IN 1960, PROHIBITED PARKING ON CRESTWOOD AND THEN AS MIKE SAID, ON MAY 13 WE MET OUT THERE AT DICK'S PARKING LOT TO GO OVER AN IDEA OF OPTIONS TO GET PAST THIS AND MOVE FORWARD WITH A SOLUTION FOR EVERYBODY. THAT'S WHAT IS OUT THERE NOW, CENTER TURN LANE.

AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING. THIS IS STARTING AT LAURENT AND YOU WILL BE LOOKING EAST. WHAT OUR PLAN IS IS TO STILL ALLOW THE LEFT TURN MOVEMENT ONTO LAURENT STREET WITH THE STRAIGHT THROUGH GOING ONTO CRESTWOOD GOING WESTBOUND.

AS YOU'RE GOING EAST WHAT WE DID IS WE WENT AHEAD AND MADE A LEFT TURN MOVEMENT, LEFT TURN BAY ONTO RATOMA. IT WORKED OUT REAL SIMPLE. FROM THAT POINT WE KICKED THAT TRAFFIC OVER WITH THE TRANSITION TO WHERE WE START THAT PARKING LANE AS YOU SEE ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND WE MOVED THE CENTER LINE STRIPE A LITTLE BIT TO THE NORTH AND I'LL JUST KEEP ON GOING DOWN WITH THE NEXT SECTION. AGAIN, THIS SHOWS THE CONSISTENCY. WE WANTED TO BE CONSISTENT THROUGH THIS PROJECT AS FAR AS THE TRAVELING PUBLIC. BIGGEST THING THE PUBLIC WANTS TO SEE WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING IS CONSISTENCY. THEY DON'T LIKE IN AND OUTS, LIKE GOING THROUGH A CONSTRUCTION ZONE, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD BE FAMILIAR WITH, DOUBLE YELLOW WITH THE WHITE -- EDGED LINES. EASTBOUND, AS WE APPROACH BEN JORDAN WE KICK THAT TRAFFIC BACK

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ONE OF THE THINGS THEY HAD ASKED IS CAN WE GET THEM WHERE THEY CAN RECORD SPEEDS.

I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVEN'T CHECKED INTO THOSE IF THEY'RE AVAILABLE AND WHAT THE LONGEVITY OF THOSE IS AS FAR AS IS IT SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO RECHARGE. IS IT SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO DOWNLOAD? WE'LL CHECK INTO THAT BUT AT THE MINIMUM GET THAT SPEED LIMIT SIGN. IT WILL BE THE FIRST ONES WE PUT IT WHERE THEY'RE ILLUMINATED AROUND THE EDGES. ESTIMATED COST FOR THOSE, 5,000 EACH, AND THEN REVISE THE STRIPING. WE'VE ALREADY CHECKED WITH THE STRIPING CONTRACTOR THAT DID THE INITIAL AND WE'RE TALKING TO HIM AND ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT THINGS IS I SAY REMOVE EXISTING STRIPING BY WATER BLAST. THERE'S THREE CONTRACTORS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT DO THAT SO WE'RE GOING TO FIND OUT AND TALK TO THEM. THE CURRENT CONTRACTOR SAID HE CAN GRIND IT BUT HE CAN USE A MINIMUM GRIND. ONE ADVANTAGE WE HAVE ON THIS ROAD VERSUS OTHER ONES WHERE YOU HAVE TO GRIND IS THIS STREET WAS NOT TINED MARKS.

IF YOU WANT THE STRIPE OUT YOU'VE GOT TO GRIND IT WAY DOWN. THIS ONE WAS A BURLAP SURFACE SO IT MAY BE EASIER TO GRIND. WE'RE GOING TO CHECK WITH HIM. WE DON'T WANT TO LEAVE ANY MARKS. WE REVISED THE TRAFFIC ORDINANCE AND ADJUSTED THE SIGNING TO REFLECT PARKING AND NO PARKING. AND THAT'S IT. I'VE GOT ONE MORE THING AFTER THIS THAT I WANT TO, HAS NOTHING RELATED TO CRESTWOOD, IF IT'S OKAY.

THE RIVER PREDICTION FOR THIS WEEKEND IS TO GET TO 28.9 ACCORDING TO THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE WHICH IS PRETTY HIGH UP THERE. THAT'S GOING TO GET FLOODING BEHIND MOMOO'S THERE ON WATER STREET. IT'S HAPPENED BEFORE, SO WE'RE GETTING PUMPS READY AND WE'VE ORDERED PUMPS AND WE'VE ALSO ORDERED SOME SECOND STREET SOUTH, AND WE'RE CHECKING FLOODGATES TOMORROW, IF THEY ARE WORKING, EVERYTHING IS FINE.

IF THE FLOODGATES ARE WORKING AND IT RAINS AND THE RIVER IS UP, THAT AREA DOES NOT DRAIN SO WE'RE SETTING UP PUMPS OVER THERE IN PREPARATION JUST IN CASE THAT HAPPENS IN WEEKEND BUT I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW WE'RE GETTING THE PUMPS ORDERED AND CHECKING THE GATES AND GETTING

READY FOR THIS COMING WEEKEND. >> THAT'S IT. >> 28?

>> 28.9. AND I LOOKED AT THE WEATHER AND THEY GOT HIT GOOD ON THE BASIN.

>>. >> GONZALEZ AND GAZEEN AND CANYON LAKE.

>> CONSENT AGENDA. >> YOU'LL NEED TO CLOSE THAT PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE.

>> NO MORE COMMENTS. WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CRESTWOOD.

[D. Consent Agenda:]

>> THE CONSENT AGENDA, I'LL ASK THAT STAFF IS ASKING TO REMOVE ITEM D2 TO BE CONSIDERED SEPARATELY BECAUSE OF A NEED TO NOMINATE A COUNCILMEMBER TO SERVE AS A , SO I'LL GO AHEAD AD THE OTHER ITEMS. D1 IS AN ADOPTION OF MINUTES OF MAY 4, 2021 CITY COUNCIL MEETING. ITEM D3, RESOLUTION AWARDING THE REHABILITATION OF WATER WELL

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>> I MOVE WE ADOPT THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED. >> SECOND.

>> D2. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. [VOTE]

[2. Reappointment and Appointment of members to the Golden Crescent Region...]

>> MOTION CARRIES. >> WE'LL GO BACK AND GET ITEM D2, RESOLUTION REAPPOINTMENT AND APPOINTMENT OF MEMBERS TO THE GOLDEN CRESCENT REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU TONIGHT CALLS FOR THE APPOINTMENT OF TWO MEMBERS TO SERVE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S GENERAL ASSEMBLY AND ONE OF THOSE TO SERVE ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

THE RESOLUTION ENDORSES MAYOR PRO-TEM SOLIZ'S SERVICE ON THE EXECUTIVE BOARD AS IMMEDIATE PAST PRESIDENT. IS ANYONE INTERESTED IN SERVING ON THE GOLDEN CRESCENT REGIONAL

PLANNING COMMISSION ASSEMBLY? >> ARE YOU THE FUTURE OFFICE HOLDER OF DISTRICT 3C?

>> RICKY AND JAN. >> WE MEET LIKE ONCE A MONTH ON THE LAST WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH AT 3:00. FROM 3:00 TO 5:00 MOST OF THE TIME.

>> THAT'S THE EXECUTIVE BOARD. IT'S JUST THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, RIGHT?

>> ONCE A YEAR. >> ONCE A YEAR. >> ONCE A YEAR.

>> AND IT'S COMING UP. >> RICKY'S GOING TO ACCEPT THAT. >> THANK YOU, MR. RAFAEL

DELAGARZA. >> THANK YOU, MR. RAFAEL DELAGARZA.

>> YOU HEARD YOUR NAME. >> HE'S BEING VERY QUIET. >> HE SAID IT TWO SECONDS BEFORE

I WAS GOING TO SO I'M REALLY GLAD YOU DID. >> THANK YOU, RICKY.

>> THAT'S PRETTY SNEAKY. >> DON'T EVER MISS A MEETING LIVE.

>> SO I MOVE THAT WE REAPPOINT NAWD. >> WHAT ABOUT THE ENDORSEMENT?

ENDORSING MAYOR PRO-TEM SOLIZ? >> INCLUDING THE ENDORSEMENT OF MAYOR PRO-TEM SOLIZ TO THE

EXECUTIVE BOARD. >> YOU MEANT TO SECOND THAT, RIGHT?

>> YES. >> [VOTE]

>> WE DON'T NEED THIS LITTLE PAPER? >> NO, MA'AM.

[1. Approve the contract for architectural services for the Fire Station #...]

>> ITEM NO. TWO. E1, RESOLUTION APPROVING A CONTRACT FOR ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES FOR THE FIRE STATION NUMBER ONE PROJECT WITH BROWN REYNOLDS WATFORD ARCHITECTS.

[READING]. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. THIS EVENING WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER THE PROCUREMENT METHOD USED FOR FIRE STATION ONE REMODEL AND THEN I'LL PASS OVER THE PRESENTATION TO CHIEF FOX AND HE'LL GO OVER THE PROJECT AND KIND OF MOVING FORWARD.

NOW, FOR THIS PROJECT WE'LL USE GOVERNMENT CODE 2254 ALSO KNOWN AS THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES PROCUREMENT ACT. WITH THIS CODE WE WERE ABLE TO ISSUE A REQUEST FOR RFQ TO GET A POOL OF QUALIFIED ARCHITECTURAL FIRMS FOR THE CITY TO USE. UNDER THIS CODE WE WERE ABLE TO SELECT THE MOST HIGHLY QUALIFIED FIRM TO PROVIDE SERVICES ON THE BASIS OF COMPETENCY AND THEIR QUALIFICATIONS. AFTER THAT WE WERE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE FIRM TO -- FOR A CONTRACT AT A FAIR AND REASONABLE PRICE. WE RECEIVED FIVE STATEMENTS OF SOQS FROM VARIOUS OFFICIALS THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF TEXAS. THEY WERE EVALUATED BY THE COMMITTEE. THE COMMITTEE DEEMED ALL FIVE QUALIFICATIONS AS COMPETENT AND QUALIFIED SO NOW THE CITY HAS A POOL OF FIVE ARCHITECTURE FIRMS TO USE FOR FUTURE PROJECTS.

THE COMMITTEE SELECTED BRW OUT OF COLLEGE STATION AS THE MOST QUALIFIED FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. SO THEY WERE SELECTED FOR NEGOTIATIONS AND WE SELECTED

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THE FINAL NEGOTIATED PRICE FOR THIS CONTRACT WAS $128,000. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS AS FAR

AS THE PROCUREMENT GOES? >> YOU SAID THEY HAVE PRIOR EXPERIENCE WITH THE CITY.

>> YES. >> DID THEY HELP US WITH THE OTHER FIRE STATIONS?

>> YES. I BELIEVE IT WAS FIRE STATION SIX.

>> SIX, TWO AND FOUR. >> THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AS FAR AS

THE PROCUREMENT GOES? >> GREAT. I'M PASS IT OVER TO CHIEF FOX.

THANK YOU. >> . >> THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE IT. PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE WITH STATIONS FOUR, TWO AND SIX, AND HAD GREAT SUCCESS WITH THOSE PROJECTS AND THE TECHNICAL EXPERTISE OF DESIGNING A FIRE STATION TO BE WIND HARDENED AND RATED TO 135 MILES ON THE COAST, THEY SHOWED GREAT EXPERIENCE WITH THAT PROCESS. KIND OF WHAT THESE SERVICES WILL BE PROVIDED BY THIS COMPANY IS SCHEMATIC DESIGN WHICH IS REALLY THE PROGRAMMING, LOOKING AT THE SPACE AND FIGURING OUT HOW IT CAN BE USED AS WELL AS A PROBABLE COST TO THE PROJECT. THEN YOU GET INTO THE DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT PHASE WHERE THAT'S YOUR CONCEPTUAL DRAWINGS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

GETTING MORE INTO THE DESIGN, VISUAL LOOK OF WHAT'S GOING -- THE PROJECT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND THEN WE MOVE INTO CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS WHICH THEY'LL PROVIDE AND THAT'S THE MEAT AND POTATOES IF YOU WILL FOR THE BIDDING PROCESS. THAT'S WHAT THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTOR WILL USE TO DEVELOP THE BIDDING FORMAT OR COST SO THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS ARE VERY IMPORTANT. THOSE ARE WHAT THE CONTRACTOR FOR THE CONSTRUCTION PIECE WILL USE TO PRODUCE THEIR BID AND THEN LASTLY CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION.

THERE'LL BE WORKING WITH THE CITY OF VICTORY AS TO MANAGE IN PROJECT AND OVERSEE THIS PROJECT AND MAKE SURE THAT THE CONTRACTOR FOR CONSTRUCTION IS FOLLOWING THOSE CONSTRUCTION

DOCUMENTS. >> CHIEF FOX THE STATION ON GOODWIN?

>> 606 EAST GOODWIN. >> ARE WE GOING TO INCORPORATE ANYTHING FROM THE BUILDING?

REMEMBER THE STREET WE. >> YES, MA'AM. >> SO THAT'S GOING TO BE PART OF

THIS? >> YES, MA'AM. WE CLOSED THE STREET AND WE'RE ALSO PART OF THIS PROJECT IS THE BUILDING OF AN APPROXIMATELY 2400 SQUARE FOOT STORAGE FACILITY, WAREHOUSE STATEMENT AND THAT WILL BE ACCESSED FROM THAT STREET.

>> OKAY. >> THAT'S WITHIN THE PROPERTY OF THE FIRE STATION.

>> RIGHT. I REMEMBER THAT WILL. >> THAT'S PART OF THE SCOPE OF

THIS PROJECT AS WELL. >> THANK YOU. >> YES, MA'AM.

KIND OF A TIMELINE. TONIGHT IF COUNCIL APPROVING WE'LL AWARD THE CONTRACT FOR THE ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES. WE'LL BEGIN DESIGN IN JUNE. THE KICKOFF MEETING IS TOMORROW IF ALL GOES WELL AND WE'LL START THAT DESIGN PROCESS AND THEN IN AUGUST WE'LL BID OUT THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT AND AWARD IT IN LATE SEPTEMBER. JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT PART OF THIS PROCESS. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WE'RE RECOMMEND AWARDING THE CONTRACT TO BRW AND WE'LL BE USING A COMPUTER PET IF SEALED PROPOSAL METHOD FOR THE CONSTRUCTION PORTION OF THE PROJECT AND THIS RFQ PROCESS FOR THE ARCHITECT ALLOWED US TO GENERATE A SUSPECTS STAN SHELL POOL OF QUALIFIED ARCHITECTS FOR OTHER FUTURE CITY PROJECTS AND WE'RE ALREADY USED ONE OF THOSE ON ANOTHER CITY PROJECT SO THE PROJECT WAS SUCCESSFUL AND GENERATING QUALIFIED ARCHITECTS FOR NOT JUST THIS BUT FOR OTHERS.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. WE ALSO HAVE THE ARCHITECT ON THE LINE AS WELL IF YOU HAVE ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS THAT I CAN'T ANSWER.

>> I HAVE ONE. >> YES, SIR. >> IN THE CONTRACT AND I SKIMMED THROUGH IT QUICKLY I DIDN'T SEE ANY DELIVERY DATES IN THERE FOR ITEMS BUT YET IN YOUR PRESENTATION YOU SAID YOU'RE GOING TO BID THE PROJECT IN AUGUST.

>> THAT'S OUR TENTATIVE TIMELINE EIGHT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SET AND THAT'S HOW THE CONTRACT READS IS TO BE DETERMINED BY THE OWNER AND THE ARCHITECT, DETERMINING THOSE TIMELINES AND THAT'S KIND OF OUR TENTATIVE TIMELINE AT THIS POINT AS HOW WE WANT THIS TO PLAY OUT AS FAR AS

THE SCHEDULE AND THAT'S WHAT WE COMMUNICATED TO THE ARCHITECT. >> FROM A PROCUREMENT STANDPOINT THE QUESTION IS WHY DON'T WE PUT THAT SPECIFICALLY IN THE CONTRACT? BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVEN'T ON CRESTWOOD CONSTRUCTION EITHER FOR DESIGN.

>> RIGHT. >> I'M SORRY. CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION?

>> YES, SIR. THE QUESTION WAS WHY DO WE NOT HAVE DELIVERABLE DATES IN THE

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PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT. >> IT'S A GOOD QUESTION AND WE CERTAINLY COULD.

WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT IN THE FUTURE. >> THANK YOU.

GREAT QUESTION. THOMAS, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE USED THE ARCHITECT CONTRACT

FORMAT FOR THIS TYPE OF SERVICE? >> ABSOLUTELY. THIS WAS PART OF THE EFFORT THAT RALEIGH MCCOY PUSHED US TOWARDS TO USE THE PROFESSIONAL AIA CONTRACTS FOR THESE PROJECTS. OF COURSE EVEN MAYOR MCCOY, AS AN ARCHITECT UNDERSTOOD THE CONTRACTS NEED SUBSTANTIAL REVISION FROM THE FORM DOCUMENTS DEVELOPED FOR NATIONAL PROJECTS, OR PROJECTS ACROSS THE NATION. WE APPRECIATED EVERYBODY'S PROCESS WHILE WE WORKED THROUGH

THAT PROCESS WITH OUTSIDE ATTORNEYS. >> THANK YOU, THOMAS.

APPRECIATE THAT. >> I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ITEM E 1.

>> SECOND. >> FIRST AND SECONDED TO APPROVE ITEM E 1.

[VOTE] >> MOTION CARRIES. >> THANK YOU MAYOR PRO-TEM AND

[2. Designation of Victoria Farmers' Market located at 2805 N. Navarro as ...]

COUNCIL. >> ITEM E2, DESIGNATION OF VICTORIA FARMERS MARKET LOCATED

AT 2805N NAVARRO. [READING]. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR PRO-TEM AND COUNCIL. SECTION 14-58, A AND B OF THE CITY CODE REQUIRES THEM TO BE DESIGNATED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. THE FARMERS MARKET LOCATED AT 2805 NORTH NAVARRO IS ASKING FOR THE DESIGNATION TO OPERATE AS A FARMERS MARKET AND SUBMITTED THE BYLAWS AND MARKET RULES AND REGULATIONS AS REQUIRED BY THE CITY CODE. THE FARMERS MARKET HAS BEEN CERTIFIED AS MENTIONED BY MS. BYRD. IT'S BEEN CERTIFIED BY THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE INSURANCE '16. IT'S A VERY SHORT PRESENTATION.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WE'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER THEM. >> THIS IS JUST KIND OF A

HOUSEKEEPING ISSUE. >> SURE. >> YES, SIR, IT IS.

THERE WAS A SLIGHT CHANGE TO THE NAME OF THE FARMERS MARKET A FEW YEARS AGO AND THE DESIGNATION INCLUDES THE LOCATION AND SO THE PREVIOUS -- THE FARMERS MARKET IS SPONSORED BY THE FOOD BANK AND SO THEIR PREVIOUS LOCATION WAS THE DOWNTOWN LOCATION, SO WE WANT TO CHANGE IT AND CORRECT

THE NAME SO JUST A HOUSEKEEPING. >> I MOVE WE ADOPT THIS AGENDA ITEM.

>> SECOND. >> IT'S BEEN FIRST AND SECONDED TO ACCEPT E2.

[VOTE] >> MOTION CARRIES. >> CITY MANAGER REPORTS.

>> YES. MAYOR PRO-TEM, WE HAVE THREE CITY MANAGERS REPORT TODAY AND

[1. Update on American Rescue Plan Act Funding. Jesús A. Garza, City Manag...]

>> GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> YES.

>> AWESOME. I REALLY WANT TO BE PART OF TONIGHT'S MEETING SO I LIKE THE WEATHER OUTSIDE TODAY OH I FIGURED I WOULD JOIN YOU OUTSIDE.

>> YOU ARE A BIG PART OF OUR MEETING TODAY. >> ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU, SIR. I APPRECIATE IT. I'M A BIG FLY ON THE FLOOR.

ALL RIGHT. SO THE FIRST TOPIC TODAY IS AN UPDATE ON THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN AND IT'S OBVIOUSLY A TOPIC OF HIGH INTEREST AND RIGHTFULLY SO BECAUSE WE ARE SLATED TO GET A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY SO NATURALLY A LOT OF QUESTIONS ARE SURROUNDING ON HOW WE CAN USE IT SO I'M SEEKING DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL. I WANT TO SHOW YOU WHAT A SHARED THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THIS TOPIC WHICH WAS IN MARCH. JUST TO REMIND YOU OF HOW LARGE THE STIMULUS PACKAGE THIS WAS IN THE PORTION THAT IS COMING TO LOCAL COMMUNITIES, AT THAT SAME COUNCIL MEETING WE MENTIONED THE CITY OF VICTORY WAS SLATED TO RECEIVE A LITTLE OVER $50 MILLION AND WE PROVIDED A BRIEF OVERVIEW ON THE ALLOWABLE USES ON THE CATEGORIES THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THAT LEGISLATION, IF YOU WILL. WE KNEW AT THE TIME THERE WOULD BE FURTHER CLARIFICATION NEEDED. THERE WAS MANY QUESTIONS SURROUNDING WHAT DEFINES REVENUE

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SOME RANGE FROM THE DISBURSEMENT PROCESS TO HOW DO YOU DEFINE REVENUES, RECENT FISCAL YEARS SINCE CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE DIFFERENT CYCLES, SOME DECEMBER 1 AND SOME JUNE 1 AND WE START OCTOBER 1. THERE WAS CLARITY NEEDED FOR THAT.

ONE THING I DIDN'T CATCH UNTIL I READ THE LETTER WAS THAT IN THE ORIGINAL LEGISLATION THAT USED THE WORLD, "OR," WATER, SEWER OR BROADBAND. A QUESTION WAS DO YOU HAVE TO CHOOSE ONE OR COULD YOU CHOOSE MULTIPLE. LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT NEEDED TO BE CLARIFIED. THERE WAS SOME UNCERTAINTY BEHIND WHETHER STORM WATER OR WASTEWATER WAS INCLUDED SINCE THE VERBIAGE WAS WATER AND SEWER AND BROADBAND.

ONCE YOU GET INTO THE WEEDS OF THE ELEMENTS THERE'S MAJOR DIFFERENCES.

NATURALLY THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT COMPLIANCE AND TRACKING SO THAT WAS HOPEFULLY CLEARED UP SOME. AND THERE WERE MANY, MANY SPECIFIC INSTANCES OR SPECIFIC SCENARIOS THAT WERE SUBMITTED FROM DIFFERENT CITIES THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THAT PACKET.

THANKFULLY A LOT OF THOSE QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED RECENTLY WHEN THE DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY ACTUALLY ANNOUNCED THE SCORED FATE AND FISCAL RECOVER FUNDS PROGRAM.

THEY ANNOUNCED IT MAY TEN, JUST LAST WEEK, AND THAT CONFIRMED THERE WAS $350 BILLION ALLOCATED TO CITY, STATES, COUNTIES, AND THE CITY OF VICTORY'S ALLOCATION DECREASED SLIGHTLY FROM 15.07, TO 14.5 AND SO, YOU KNOW, EVEN JUST CLARIFICATIONS AROUND THE DISBURSEMENT CAME OUT OF THIS PROCESS. WE STILL ARE SLATED TO RECEIVE HALF OF THAT THIS MONTH AT SOME POINT WITH REMAINING HALF AT THIS TIME NEXT YEAR AND STILL CAN USE IT UNTIL THE END OF '24.

THE CATEGORIES ON THE RIGHT ARE THE VERY SAME CATEGORIES THAT WE SHARED IN MARCH BUT NOW THE GUIDANCE CONFIRMS WE HAVE SOME BROAD FLEXIBILITY WITH THIS AND SO I WANTED TO QUOTE A SENTENCE THAT WAS IN THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY OF THE DOCUMENT THAT CAME OUT FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY THAT READS WITHIN THE CATEGORIES OF ELIGIBLE USES, RECIPIENTS HAVE BROAD FLEXIBILITY TO DECIDE HOW BEST TO USE THIS FUNDING TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THEIR COMMUNITIES, AND SO IF THEY'RE LEAVING IT UP TO US, THEN ALREADY, LET'S HAVE THE CONVERSATION AND I'M GOING TO TAKE EACH ONE OF THESE JUST VERY BRIEFLY. I'M NOT GOING TO READ EVERY ONE BUT I WANTED TO PROVIDED YOU AND THE PUBLIC SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT THEY PROVIDED IN THE CATEGORIES.

UNDER THE SUPPORTING PUBLIC HEALTH EXPENDITURES, OBVIOUSLY THE THINGS YOU MIGHT THINK OF ASSOCIATED WITH VACCINATION PROGRAMS, PPE, THEY TALK ABOUT ENFORCEMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH ORDERS, PUBLIC COMMUNICATION EFFORTS WHICH I THINK WAS HUGE BECAUSE ONCE WE START GOING THROUGH ALL OF THESE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE NEED TO START ASKING OURSELVES WHICH ONES ARE RELEVANT TO US. PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS EFFORTS IS IMPORTANT AND IT ALSO GOES ON TO TALKING ABOUT CAPITAL INVESTMENTS AND PUBLIC FACILITIES TO MEET OPERATIONAL NEEDS SO WE SHOULD KEEP THAT IN MIND SINCE THAT'S SOMETHING MORE RELEVANT TO US.

WE OBVIOUSLY DON'T DIRECTLY OVERSEE THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT SO MANY OF THESE INSTANCES ARE MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT THEMSELVES. BUT THERE ARE REFERENCE TO SOME ELEMENTS THAT I'LL TOUCH ON A LITTLE BIT LATER THAT APPLY TO INVESTMENTS IN COMMUNITIES, AROUND MENTAL HEALTH, SUBSTANCE ABUSE, TO NAME A FEW, WHICH CAN BE BROAD.

IT'S NOT JUST COVID AS YOU CAN SEE. THERE'S A LOT OF ELEMENTS TIED TO THIS PUBLIC HEALTH DEFINITION INCLUDED IN HERE. TO ADDRESS THE NEGATIVE ECONOMIC IMPACTS. IT WAS VERY. IT TALKS ABOUT HOUSEHOLD FACING FINANCIAL INSECURITIES OR SUPPORTING SMALL BUSINESSES THROUGH LOANS OR GRANTS OR

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THERE WASN'T A LOT OF SPECIFIC EXAMPLES GIVEN IN THIS CATEGORY BUT WE BELIEVE THAT WAS INTENTIONAL TO ALLOW THE LOCAL COMMUNITIES THE FLEXIBILITY TO DETERMINE WHAT IS PART OF TOURISM AND WHAT IS PART OF TRAVEL AND HOSPITALITY BECAUSE EVERY COMMUNITY IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF WHAT DRIVES TOURISM AND TRAVEL SO I THINK THEY'RE INTENTIONALLY LEAVING THAT FLEXIBILITY FOR US. WE KNOW THERE'S ALSO SOME COMPONENT OF IT THAT NEGATIVELY IMPACTS A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS AND CITIES OUT THERE AND WE WERE FORTUNATE WE WEREN'T ONE OF THOSE WHERE WE HAD TO MAKE DRASTIC CUTS TO THE OPERATIONS BUT THIS ADDRESSES THE ABILITY TO HIRE THOSE FOLKS BACK. LOST REVENUES, PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD WHICH IS INTENDED TO PLUG SOME OF THOSE HOLES COMPARED TO FISCAL YEAR '19, WHICH WE WOULD USE THAT TO COME UP WITH THE CALCULATION. IT INCLUDES LANGUAGE IF WE WANTED TO INCLUDE AUTOMATIC ESCALATORS TO RECEIVE MORE REVENUE UNDER THIS CATEGORY AND THAT WAS A CONVERSATION THAT GILBERT AND I HAD AND WE DECIDED TO SOLELY FOCUS ON REVENUE LOSS. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE PLENTY OF MONEY TO HAVE A HOLISTIC CONVERSATION ON ALL THE COMMUNITY'S NEEDS.

PEOPLE WHY YOU PAY FOR ESSENTIAL WORKERS. ORIGINALLY THE CLASSIFICATION OF THIS LAST YEAR WAS IN QUESTION. THIS GAVE A LOT OF EXAMPLES THAT GO BEYOND THE GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES, IF YOU WILL, TOUCHING PRIVATE SECTOR EMPLOYEES THAT ARE CONSIDERED ESSENTIAL, SO THE IMPLICATION THROUGH THIS SPECIFIC CATEGORY IS THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS CAN ISSUE GRANTS TO EMPLOYERS WHO HIRE THEM TO PROVIDE PREMIUM PAY AND WE'RE SEEING THAT IN SOME OTHER COMMUNITIES. WATER SEWER AND BROADBAND INFRASTRUCTURE, MY ONLY COMMENT HERE WAS THAT THEY DID INCLUDE WASTEWATER AND STORM WATER INFRASTRUCTURE.

TO BE DETERMINED TO WHAT EXTENT STORM WATER IS INCLUDED WE BELIEVE THEY'RE INTENT WAS TO SIMPLY CAPTURE THE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEMS AND IN MANY COMMUNITIES THE STORM WATER FEEDS TO A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT OR SIMILAR TIME OF TREATMENT FACILITY SO WE'RE NOT CERTAIN IF IT MEANS JUST THAT PART OR IF IT MEANS LITERALLY ANY DRAINAGE TYPE OF PROJECT SO THERE'S STILL SOME CLARIFICATION NEEDED ON STORM WATER. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY CAME OUT OF NOWHERE REALLY WAS A VERY SPECIFIC POTENTIAL USE FOR THE HARDEST-HIT COMMITS AND SO THE FORMAL LANGUAGE THAT CAME OUT LAST WEEK VERY SPECIFICALLY TALKED ABOUT HOW MANY FOLKS IN THE COUNTRY ESPECIALLY IN LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES BY FAR SUFFERED SOME OF THE GREATEST CHALLENGES OR SETBACKS ASSOCIATED WITH COVID-19 AND THEY INTENTIONALLY HAVE ALLOWED A BROAD USE OF THESE FUNDS WITHIN QCT, QUALIFIED CENSUS TRACKS, AND WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH THOSE. NOW THIS DIRECTION IS NOW SAYING THAT WE CAN USE PART OF THIS $14.5 MILLION TO ALSO ADDRESS ISSUES WITHIN THERE RANGING FROM EDUCATIONAL DISPARITIES AND INVESTMENTS IN HOUSING, AND I VERY SPECIFICALLY PULLED OUT THE TERMS OF HOMELESS AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING SINCE THOSE ARE OBVIOUSLY TOPICS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED IN THE PAST AND TO A CERTAIN EXTENT ARE ONGOING AND SO THAT WAS NEW. AGAIN, THAT KIND OF CAME OUT OF NOWHERE WITH THE NEW GUIDANCE THAT CAME OUT LAST WEEK. CLEARLY WITH THAT IT'S CLEAR THAT THE ELIGIBLE EXPENDITURES ARE MUCH BROADER AND MORE ROBUST THAN ORIGINALLY ANTICIPATED.

THAT HAS PROS AND CONS OF COURSE AND THE PRO OF COURSE IS THAT IT'S PLACING A LOT OF ONUS ON US TO DETERMINE WHAT'S IMPORTANT FOR OUR ORGANIZATION AND FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND THAT'S OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITY ON OUR PART AND A RESPONSIBILITY THAT WE WANTED TO TAKE SERIOUSLY AND ONE OF THE VERY FIRST THINGS WE NOTICED RIGHT OFF THE BAT WAS THAT IF WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING RIGHT AS IT RELATES TO THIS PROGRAM WE'RE GOING TO NEED STAFF TO HELP WITH IT.

THE GUIDANCE THAT CAME OUT LAST WEEK ALSO CONFIRMED SOME OF THE FUNDS CAN BE UTILIZED TO

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THE NEXT ITEM IS KATIE TALKING ABOUT HER GRANTS ADMINISTRATION VISION AND SHE'LL HIT ON THAT A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE WE DO THINK IF WE GO DOWN THAT PATH IT MAKES SENSE TO BUILD OUT THAT TEAM UNDER KATIE AND KEEP IT SEPARATE FROM OUR TRADITIONAL PROGRAM PROGRAM AND KEEP IN MIND THE STAFF WITH PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FALLS UNDER HUD GUIDELINES WHICH ARE VERY, VERY STRICT AND RESTRICTIVE TO A CERTAIN EXTENT AND THIS PROGRAM DOESN'T HAVE TO FOLLOW THAT AND KEEP IN MIND THAT STAFF HAS TAKEN IT UPON THEMSELVES TO DO THESE RENTAL MORTGAGE ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS. TO SEPARATE AND PEOPLE NOT GET CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT IS HUD AND NOT, WE THINK THE BEST APPROACH IS TO HIRE PERSONNEL UNDER THE GRANTS ADMINISTRATION DIVISION.

MORE TO THAT WHEN KATIE SPEAKS. SO WITH THAT RESPONSIBILITY OF ALLOCATING THESE FUNDS, WHAT STAFF WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND IS THAT AS A STARTING POINT WE ALLOCATE FUNDS INTO BUCKETS OR CATEGORIES AND THEN THAT WAY WE AT LEAST REACH CONSENSUS ON THE BIG PICTURE CATEGORIES AND BUCKETS BEFORE WE TAKE A DEEPER DIVE INTO THE WEEDS OF HOW WE WANT TO SPEND SOME OF THOSE.

BECAUSE THE ALLOWABLE USES ARE MUCH BROADER THAN ORIGINALLY ANTICIPATED, WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND IS THAT FOR THOSE RELEVANT CATEGORIES, THAT WE ESTABLISH COMMITTEES MADE UP OF POTENTIALLY ONE OR TWO COUNCILMEMBERS AND STAFF AND RELEVANT STAKEHOLDERS SO WE CAN TRULY WORK ON HOW BEST TO INVEST THE DOLLARS AND HOPEFULLY MAKE THE GREATEST IMPACT.

AGAIN, WE TAKE THAT ONUS THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS PLACED ON US, WE TAKE IT VERY SERIOUS AND WE FEEL THE ONLY WAY WE CAN REACH REALLY GOOD RECOMMENDATION YOU TO IS IF WE HAVE A COLLECTIVE PROCESS, AN INCLUSIVE DIRECTIVE PROCESS ON DETERMINING THAT.

FIRST I WANT TO HAVE A BRIEF CONVERSATION ON WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND IN TERMS OF THE BUCKETS. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BROADBAND AND SO WE WOULD LIKE TO ALLOCATE 2 MILLION TOWARDS THAT. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE WOULD LIKE TO CREATE A BUCKET OF 3 MILLION FOR THAT. SPEAKING WITH GILBERT WE THINK 3 MILLION IS A GOODS FIGURE IN TERMS OF LOSS OF REVENUE FOR US SO WE WOULD LIKE TO OBVIOUSLY ALLOCATE THAT AMOUNT. ORGANIZATIONAL NEEDS, FOR OUR USE INTERNALLY SO YOU MAY RECALL IN A PREVIOUS SLIDE WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS AND REALLY JUST OTHER THINGS, AND SO WE HAVE NEEDS OURSELVES, YOU KNOW, RANGING FROM BUYING EQUIPMENT TO LET'S SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, MAKING PERMIT AND HAVING GLASS -- I DON'T WANT TO USE THE WORLD SHIELD BUT HAVING GLASS IN BETWEEN OUR EMPLOYEES AND THE PUBLIC.

CURRENTLY WE'RE STILL USING SOME TEMPORARY FREE-STANDING KIND OF PLASTIC SHIELDS IF YOU WILL AND BUILD OUT MORE PERMANENT GLASS BARRIERS SIMILAR TO IN THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE SO WE WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THAT T. COMMUNITY GRANTS, THIS IS WHERE WE WOULD HIT ON POTENTIALLY HELPING COMMUNITIES IN OUR Q CTS, MUCH BROADER AGENCIES THAT PROVIDE SERVICES.

TOURISM, TRAVEL AND INDUSTRY, WE'RE RECOMMENDING 1 MILLION. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, $1 MILLION. AND THEN THE ADMINISTRATION, OVERHEAD, HELPING ADMINISTER PROGRAMS THAT COME OUT OF THIS, THE STAFF, WE WOULD LIKE TO ALLOCATE A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS TOWARDS THAT. I CAN'T REALLY SEE YOU AND SO I'LL KIND OF THROW IT OUT IF

THERE'S ANY INITIAL REACTIONS TO THIS PART OF THE CONVERSATION. >> I HAVE SOME AND THIS IS JUST MY APPROACH TO LOOKING AT THE WHOLE BUCKET OF MONEY. I CAN'T SAY THAT ANY OF THESE ALLOCATIONS ARE CORRECT WITHOUT KNOWING HOLISTIC KELLEY AS A GROUP HERE WHAT WE DETERMINE NEED TO BE THE IMPORTANT PROJECTS AND SEE HOW MUCH THEY COST AND WHAT WE CAN AFFORD AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH IMPACTFULNESS AND THEN IT GOES INTO A BUCKET THAT FOLLOWS THE GUIDELINES BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW, FOR LOSS OF REVENUE JUMPS OUT AT ME AS I THINK MR. RAYMA AND MR. GARZA DID A GREAT JOB ON SCALING BACK EXPENDITURES AND MET OUR LOSS OF REVENUE BY LOWER

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IT'S JUST ONE-TIME MONEY IN THE GENERAL FUND. THAT ONE I HAVE HEARTBURN WITH.

BUT OVERALL I'D RATHER ATTACK IT FROM HERE'S SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE WANT TO GO DO AND THEN LET'S PUT IT IN A BUCKET AND THAT ENDS UP WHAT IT IS AND WE DECIDE WHAT'S IMPORTANT.

>> I AGREE. WE SHOULD FIND THE PROJECTS FIRST.

BACK TO THE LOST REVENUE WE DID POSTPONE CAPITAL PROJECTS WHICH IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE COULD HAVE SOME MORE CAPITAL PROJECTS DONE. BUT I TOO THINK WE NEED A PROJECT. WE NEED A LIST. IT MAY BE WE WANT TO SPEND MORE IN A CERTAIN AREA THAN ANOTHER. WE TALKED TALKED ABOUT RESILIENCY WITH THE WATER SYSTEM. WE MAY WANT TO SPEND MORE. I THINK WE NEED A BIG LIST BEFORE WE DECIDE HOW MUCH WE'RE GOING TO SPEND IN EACH LITTLE BUCKET.

>> I'D LIKE SEE SOME TYPE OF LIST FOR PRIORITIZING? >> I THINK IT WOULD BE UP TO US

TO DO THAT. >> YES. >> WITH INPUT FROM STAFF WHO WILL KNOW THE BETTER DETAILS BUT I THINK IT'S UP TO US TO SET THAT DIRECTION AS FAR AS IS THIS

WHAT THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO BE TACKLED. >> THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE WANT TO TRY AND ACCOMPLISH AND THE REASON WHY WE WANTED TO APPROACH -- ONE THING WE COULD DO QUITE FRANKLY IS STILL SET UP COMMITTEES WITHOUT HAVING BUCKETSES OR DOLLAR SIGNS ATTACHED TO IT TO BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH PROJECTS, RIGHT, BECAUSE ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF GOING INTO WITH SOME TYPE OF BROAD CATEGORY IS THAT IT AT LEAST KIND OF SHRINKS A LITTLE BIT WHAT THOSE POTENTIAL PROJECTS MIGHT LOOK AT. IF THE DIRECTION IS COME UP WITH A MASTER LIST OF PROJECTS AND WORRY ABOUT THE CATEGORIES LATER QUITE FRANKLY THAT'S JUST -- THERE'S TOO MANY PROJECTS, RIGHT. WE WOULD NEED DIRECTION FROM YOU BEFORE WE COME UP WITH A LIST OF PROJECTS ON THE TYPES OF PROJECTS THAT YOU WANT AND SO WHAT I'M IN ESSENCE SAYING THESE ARE THE CATEGORIES OF LISTS OF PROJECT THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON BECAUSE I DON'T WHAT WANT TO PUT STAFF OR MYSELF IN A POSITION WHERE WE ASSUME THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN A PROJECT, YOU KNOW, THAT IS, FOR INSTANCE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE ALLOWABLE USES IS TO CREATE GRANT PROGRAMS TO EMPLOYERS THAT HIRE ESSENTIAL WORKERS FOR EXAMPLE, RIGHT, AND WELL, YOU KNOW, IF WE DON'T HAVE SOME GUIDANCE THAT WOULDN'T FIT ANY OF THESE CATEGORIES BECAUSE WE'RE IN ESSENCE POTENTIALLY SUGGESTING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T FUND ANYTHING WITH $14.5 MILLION, SO THE BENEFIT OF CREATING SOME CATEGORIES, EVEN IF WE DON'T ATTACH DOLLAR SIGNS TO THE BUCKETS IS THAT IT HELPS NARROW THE TYPES OF PROJECTS LIST THAT WE COME UP WITH, OTHERWISE IT'S A FREE-FOR-ALL IN TERMS OF PROJECTS AND WE'RE KIND OF LEFT ASSUMING.

>> I COULD BUY INTO THE RECOMMENDED CATEGORIES FIRST BUT NOT THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS TO IT.

>> SO CAN I. >> WE COULD DO THIOATE THE WAY THAT I HAD THOUGHT ABOUT IT WAS -- WE CAN CREATE MORE CATEGORIES AND MORE COMMITTEES OBVIOUSLY BUT MY THOUGHT WAS IF WE CAN AGREE ON THE CATEGORIES THEN WE GO AND DO THE HARD WORK WHICH WOULD BE COMING UP WITH A LIST OF PROJECTS AS YOU JUST MENTIONED. AND THAT'S A PROCESS THAT I THINK NEEDS TO INCLUDE SOME COUNCIL REPRESENTATION, STAFF, RELEVANT TAKE HOLDERS.

I THINK IT WOULD BE A VERY DIFFICULT CONVERSATION TO HAVE INCLUDING ALL OF COUNCIL TOGETHER, RIGHT, BECAUSE IT'S JUST SO OF SOAGE IF WE WERE TO HAVE ONE OR TWO COUNCILMEMBERS IN EACH COMMITTEE OR TOPIC, IF YOU WILL, THAT MIGHT HELP FACILITATE HAVING MEETINGS TO MAKE BROAD RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL LIKE IN A WORKSHOP SETTING.

WE COULD EASILY ELIMINATE THE ACTUAL DOLLAR SIGN, IF YOU WILL. AND THEN SIMPLY JUST TAKE THE APPROACH OF COMMITTEES AND TOPICS AND LIKE I SAID, WE WOULD HAVE MORE TOPICS THAN JUST THESE

FOUR. >> ONE THING I STARTED THINKING ABOUT AS WE LOOKED AT THESE CATEGORIES AND I AGREE THE NUMBERS KIND OF HOLD YOU BACK BUT WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT SOME INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS THAT THE CITY HAS OF ITS BUILDINGS THAT BECAME APPARENT DURING COVID BUT ARE ALSO APPARENT AND THEY'RE AREAS WE DON'T HAVE NECESSARILY BUDGETED

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TO RAISE MONEY FOR. >> YEAH. THAT MAKES SENSE.

>> FROM A PROCESS STANDPOINT, KIND OF HOW I WAS THINKING IS THAT MAYBE WE TAKE THESE CATEGORIES AND AS HOMEWORK, AS MEMBERS, IF YOU HAVE 50 PROJECTS YOU WEREN'T TO PUT OUT THERE AND PUT IN EACH CATEGORY AND THEN WHETHER IT'S A SMALL GROUP THAT JUST TACKLES EACH CATEGORY.

AND RANKS THEM OUT AND SAYS HERE'S WHERE WE THINK THE PRIORITIES ARE AND HOW WE FEEL ABOUT IT TO PRESENT TO THE REST OF THE COUNCIL AND JUST WHITTLE THROUGH THE LIST AND SOME THINGS ARE GOING TO FALL OFF LIKE FOR INSTANCE I THINK SOMETHING I WOULD PUT ON HERE IS OFF-CHANNEL RESERVOIR INTERCONNECT PIPING. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT FOR YEARS. IT'S NEVER BEEN A HUGE PRIORITY BUT IT'S SOMETHING I WOULD WANT TO CONSIDER AND IT MAY NOT MAKE THE LIST BUT IT'S ONE OF THOSE THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN OUT THERE AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BEEN ON ANYBODY ELSE'S RADAR.

ALL OF US WILL HAVE THOSE STUCK IN THE BACK OF THE OUR HEAD AND TALK ABOUT ITEMS WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO FUND. AND THIS MONEY SHOULD BE IMPACTFUL AND TRANSFORMATION AS

MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND NOT NICKELED AND DIMED AWAY. >> THEY'D HAVE TO ALL BE THE ONE-TIME PROJECTS. WE CAN'T USE THIS MONEY TO, YOU KNOW, SPEND AGAIN OR TO ADD A PROJECT THAT IS GOING TO COST US AGAIN SO IT'S LIKE ONE-TIME PROJECTS.

>> MOSTLY, YES. BUT THERE'S SOME ELEMENTS BECAUSE KEEP IN MIND WE HAVE TO SPEND THE MONEY THROUGH THE END OF '24 SO FOR US THAT WOULD HIT POTENTIALLY THREE FISCAL YEARS.

IF WE HIRE STAFF TO MANAGE SOME OF THESE POTENTIAL PROGRAMS, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE A RECURRING EXPENSE FOR AT LEAST THOSE THREE YEARS SPREAD OUT OVER THOSE FISCAL YEARS, FOR EXAMPLE, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THEM ARE OBVIOUSLY ONE-TIME EXPENDITURES.

I'LL SAY ON THE LOSS OF REVENUE PART SO THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR '22 AND GILBERT CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THAT THREE HIM IS FOR THE MOST PART ALREADY BEING TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT INTO THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR SIMPLY TO MAKE US WHOLE.

SO IF YOU'RE THINKING THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS 3 MILLION PER LOSS OF ROACH IS MONEY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE TRANSFER OVER TO FUND BALANCE AND THEN GET TO REALLOCATE TECHNICALLY THAT IS TRUE BUT WE'RE REALLOCATING IT TO BE ABLE TO OPERATING OUT HAVING TO CUT ANYTHING NEXT

YEAR. >> ANOTHER THING I WANT IF YOU P FUNDING FROM GENERAL FUND IT'S HIGHER THAN NORMAL. I MADE ASSUMPTIONS THAT WE USE SOME OF THE MONEY THROUGH THE CIP PROCESS FROM THIS LOST REVENUE SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT TWO CENTS OUT THERE.

IT'S AN ASSUMPTION, WORKING WITH THE BUDGET, IT'S NOT FILE, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE BUDGET NOW WITH THE CIP YOU'RE LOOKING AT SLIGHTLY OVER $8 MILLION, COMING FROM THE GENERAL FUND JUST BY ITSELF SO KEEP THAT IN MIND. SO IT'S ONE-TIME. THE LAST POINT, WE'RE THROWING OUT ALL THESE PROJECTS AND IN ALL DUE RESPECT THERE'S ENGINEERING STUDIES AND CONSTRUCTION AND BIDS AND ALL THAT BUT I WANT TO REITERATE THAT THIS MONEY HAS TO BE SPENT BY '24 SO IF WE'RE GOING TO DO A BUILDING OR SOME TYPE OF HEAVY INFRASTRUCTURE IT NEEDS TO GET STARTED. THAT'S MY POINT. THANK YOU.

>> FOR CLARIFICATION, BUILDING ON THAT, DECEMBER 31, 2024, OR I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE PAYMENT

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COMMITTED. >> I'VE GOT A QUESTION OUT THERE BECAUSE IN THE PREVIOUS COVID-19 IT WAS A CONTRACT. IN OTHER WORDS, I HAD TO HAVE THAT SOLID CONTRACT THAT'S OBLIGATED BUT I'M STILL NOT GOING -- I'M STILL GOING TO GET THAT CONFIRMED.

>> THIS ONE SEEMS TO BE MORE FOCUSED ON THE SPENT BY THAT DATE BUT IT'S ALSO CONTRACT BIDS. FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE END UP GRANTING A GRANT TO LET'S SAY A NONPROFIT WELL, WE WOULD HAVE TO GRANT THOSE FUNDS, YOU KNOW, PRIOR TO THAT BUT THAT'S STILL SOME OF THE GRAY AREA THAT WE'RE STILL TRYING TO SEEK CLARIFICATION ON.

>> SO IT WOULD BE ALL RIGHT IN THAT INSTANCE TO GRANT IT AND THAT CONSTITUTES THE SPENDING BY THE CITY BUT OUR CONTRACT WITH THEM ON THAT GRANT WOULD STIPULATE THAT THEY NEEDED TO BE UNDER CONTRACT FOR WHATEVER THEIR EXPENDITURE IS BY '24 OR SOMETHING.

>> WELL, YOU KNOW, OUR INTENTION WITHOUT HAVING THE SPECIFIC PROJECT IN MIND WAS TO ACTUALLY IF WE DO GO DOWN THE ROUTE OF PROVIDING GRANTS TO THIRD -- PARTY ORGANIZATIONS IS TO ACTUALLY PLACE A DEADLINE ON THAT SO THAT IF THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT THAT THEY GET THE GRANT FOR DOESN'T HAPPEN WE'RE ABLE TO UTILIZE THE EXCESS FUNDS IN TIME BY THE END OF '24 FOR OTHER PURPOSES. THAT WAY WE FURTHER MAXIMIZE THE USAGE OF THE FUNDS AND EVERYBODY'S ON A TIME CLOCK OF SORTS. THAT WAS JUST OUR INTERNAL DISCUSSION ON THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO ALLOCATE A BUNCH OF FUNDS AND IT EITHER A, TAKE FOREVER FOR SOMETHING TO HAPPEN OR B, IT NOT HAPPEN AND WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO TAKE THE

FUNDS AND USE THEM FOR SOMETHING ELSE. >> THAT MAKES SENSE.

>> IF OUR DEADLINE IS THE END OF '24 THEN THEY'RE DEADLINE IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE BEFORE THAT.

>> I THINK WHILE WE'RE DOING OUR HOMEWORK IS COUNCIL, HOPEFULLY HAVE STAFF DOING THE SAME THING WITH LISTS OF ITEMS AND NEEDS AND SEE IF WE CAN'T MARRY THEM UP.

WE MIGHT ALL BY ON THE SAME PAGE. >> THAT'S WHAT THE COMMITTEES WILL PRESENT, PRESENT THE OPPORTUNITIES TO DO THAT AND I'M NOT SURE IF ANYBODY LABS ANY MAJOR CONCERNS WITH THE CATEGORIES THAT WE'VE INCLUDED. AGAIN, FORGET ABOUT THE ALLOCATION OF MONEY BUT SIMPLY JUST FOCUS ON THE CATEGORIES. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY SPECIFIC ISSUE WITH THE ONES THAT WE'VE INCLUDED? DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL

CATEGORIES THAT YOU'D LIKE TO INCLUDE? >> CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CATEGORY BECAUSE IN YOUR PREVIOUS PRESENTATION I DIDN'T QUITE SEE THAT LISTED ANYWHERE AND I SKIMMED THE FACT SHEET THAT SHE GAVE US A COPY OF LAST WEEK OR THIS WEEKEND, AND

I'M CONFUSED ON THAT PART. >> RIGHT. MY INTENTION WAS FOR IT TO BE PART OF A CONVERSATION ABOUT POTENTIALLY SUPPORTING SMALL BUSINESSES IF THE COMMITTEE WANTS TO DO THAT SINCE THOSE ARE ALLOWABLE PROGRAMS OR ANYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH ECONOMIC RELIEF PROGRAMS. I KNOW IT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST AND I KNOW THERE'S BEEN CONVERSATIONS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT WHAT TO DO WITH THE CAPITAL FUNDS, PEOPLE FUND, AND WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING SPECIFIC IN MIND BUT I SIMPLY THOUGHT WELL, LET'S BRING IT UP AS A CATEGORY AND IF ANYBODY HAS ANY CLEVER IDEAS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW TO USE SOME OF THESE FUNDS THEN MAYBE WE CAN UTILIZE IT FOR THEM. THERE'S ALSO GREAT FLEXIBILITY. THE INNOVATIVE COLLABORATIVE EFFORT THAT UHB IS UNDERTAKING THAT THEY HAVE SEEKED INFORMATION, WE THOUGHT F WE DIDN'T WANT TO FUND THAT OUT OF THIS THAT, WE COULD FUND IT OUT OF THAT SINCE IT'S ECONOMIC

DEVELOPMENT AND POTENTIALLY SUPPORTS THE BUSINESS. >> THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

>> THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. SO IT'S REALLY JUST THOSE TYPES OF OUTSIDE-THE-BOX THINGS.

I KNOW THERE'S BEEN CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHETHER THIS COMMUNITY WANTS TO ESTABLISH A PERMANENT REVOLVING LOAN FUND OR NOT. MAYBE PRESENTS THE PUSH TO DO THAT SO WE DON'T HAVE TO USE OUR OWN MONEY TO TEST THAT. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME --

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HEADED WITH THAT. >> OKAY. >> ARE WE ABLE TO USE THIS MONEY FOR PLAIN OLD VANILLA NEEDS THAT COVID HASN'T MADE WORSE, LIKE THE CONDITION OF SOME OF OUR STREETS? FOR NEEDS WHETHER WE HAVE COVID OR NOT..

>> I HATE TO GIVE YOU AN ANSWER OF SAYING DEPENDS. IF WE WANTED TO SAY WE WANT TO USE IT FOR RESIDENTIAL STREETS I'M NOT SURE BUT IF WE WANTED TO TIE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INTO IT, YOU KNOW, THERE MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEND SOME DOLLARS FOR PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. SO I THINK IT ALL DEPENDS ON HOW

WE USE IT AND SPEND IT AND THE PURPOSE FOR IT. >> SO MAYBE TO SOME EXTENT IT MIGHT DEPEND ON THE CLASSIFICATION OF THE STREET, MAYBE NOT RESIDENTIAL ABOUT WHAT

DO THEY CALL IT, ARTERIAL. >> COLLECTOR -- [CROSSTALK] -- >> LOSS OF MILLION, 3 MILLION.

GOING TO CIP PROJECTS SO ESSENTIALLY IT'S GOING TOWARDS THAT BUT IT'S -- [CROSSTALK] --

>> RIGHT. >> DETOUR -- [CROSSTALK] -- >> INDIRECT.

>> NICE WORD. INDIRECT. THANK YOU, THOMAS.

>> GOING BACK TO MY QUESTION, IS THERE ANY CATEGORIES YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD, LET US KNOW.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT FEEDBACK NOW BUT JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND.

FOR NOW I'LL PROCEED WITH THE MINIMUM THESE CATEGORIES WE'VE PRESENTED ARE OKAY AND IF WE WANT TO ADD SOME LATER. FOR NOW WE'LL PROCEED WITH EVERYBODY DOING THEIR HOMEWORK ON COMING UP WITH PROJECTS WITHIN THE CATEGORIES AND SETTING UP SOME COMMITTEES.

AGAIN, I DON'T NEED THE PEOPLE TO DECIDE NOW BUT SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT IS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC INTEREST AND WITH WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN A SPECIFIC CATEGORY I STILL THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEST USE OF EVERYBODY'S TEAM, IF COUNCIL DIVIDES THEMSELVES UP INTO CATEGORIES TO AT MINIMUM HELP STAFF COME UP WITH A PRELIMINARY LIST AND OBVIOUSLY EVERYTHING WITH COUNCIL BUT SPREADING EVERYBODY OUT MIGHT HELP THE CAUSE A LITTLE BIT.

>> ARE WE USING THESE FOUR CATEGORIES ARE THE SEVEN? >> WE HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL

CATEGORIES HERE. >> RIGHT. >> I SIMPLY INCLUDED THESE BECAUSE I THOUGHT THESE WOULD BE MAYBE OF THE HIGHEST INTEREST TO COUNCIL BECAUSE, FOR EXAMPLE, ORGANIZATIONAL NEEDS I ASSUME COUNSEL IS PROBABLY MOSTLY GOING TO DEPEND ON STAFF FOR THAT AND WE CAN PREVENT THOSE TO ALL OF COUNCIL ONCE WE RECOMMEND THE WHOLE THING AND LOSS OF REVENUE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PROBABLY VERY SPECIFICALLY COME UP WITH WHAT THOSE ARE BEING DIRECTED TO, IF YOU WEU8, SO THAT'S WHY I KIND OF FOCUSED ON THE ONES THAT I THOUGHT WOULD GARNER MORE STAKEHOLDER INVOLVEMENT, IF YOU WILL, AND COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AND SO THAT'S WHY I INCLUDED THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. I FIGURED THEY ARE THE CLOSEST THING WE HAVE WITH A BOARD THAT IS INVOLVED WITH THAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT, AND THE TOURISM ADVISORY BOARD, AND SINCE COUNCIL ALREADY APPOINTED THE BOARD AND PICKED THE PEOPLE TO SERVE AS THE VOICE OF THE TOURISM SECTOR SO WHY NOT GET THEM INVOLVED AND SO ON THE COMMUNITY NEEDS, THAT'S PROBABLY MORE ROBUST BECAUSE THAT CAN GO A MILLION DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS IN TERMS OF THE TYPES OF SERVICES OFFERED BUT WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE OUR CDBG STAFF THAT COULD ASSIST WITH THAT AND THROUGH CONVERSATIONS WE CAN START DISCERNING WHAT'S PRIORITY AND WHAT'S NOT.

WE KNOW BASED OFF OF THE VERBAGE INCLUDED IN HERE THAT FOR THE MOST PART THESE ARE PROBABLY SERVICES RANGING FROM FOOD DISTRIBUTION TO SHELTERING TO MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES AND SO WE KNOW THAT A LOT IS INTENDED TOWARDS THOSE ASPECTS AND SO WE CAN CERTAINLY INCLUDE

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WE ALSO HAVE THE VICTORIA BROADBAND COMMISSION ALREADY WORKING WHICH I DIDN'T INCLUDE IT HERE BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE THE VICTORIA BROADBAND COMMISSION THAT THEY'RE SPEARHEADING ALREADY LOOKING TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL SO I DIDN'T THINK THERE WAS A NEED TO DUPLICATE A DIFFERENT GROUP TO LOOK INTO BROADBAND SO THAT WAS THE REASONING BEHIND

FOCUSING ON THOSE FOUR. >> THE FOUR COMMITTEES BUT I'M PLANNING ON COMING UP WITH A

LIST AND PUTTING A TEMPORARY CATEGORY NEXT TO IT TO SEND YOU. >> THAT'S FINE.

LIKE I SAID, IF THERE'S OTHER CATEGORIES -- [CROSSTALK] -- >> THE OTHER EIGHT ON THE NEXT

SLIDE. >> SORRY? >> THE EIGHT CATEGORIES, I'M PLANNING I'M GOING TO SEND YOU A LIST OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND I'M GOING TO PUT I THINK IT FALLS IN THIS CATEGORY WHAT COMMITTEE IT GOES TO, I'LL LEAVE THAT TO Y'ALL AND THIS IS WHERE I THINK IT WOULD GO AND IT MAY NOT FIT. I MAY NOT MEET THE CRITERIA.

THE OTHER BIG POINT I WANT TO MAKE IS COUNCIL NEEDS COMMUNITY INPUT ON THIS.

>> YES. >> PLEASE CONTACT US. Y'ALL ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME OF THE BEST IDEAS AS WELL AND WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM PEOPLE. I DON'T CARE HOW OFF THE WALL

THE PROJECT MAY SOUND. LET'S LOOK AT EVERYTHING. >> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE COULD LOOK AT DOING AS WELL IS THAT WE COULD LOOK AT ESTABLISHING COMMUNITY SERVICE

OF SORTS IF WE WANTED TO GO TO THAT EXTENT. >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN.

>> PUT THE SURVEYS ONLINE. >> MAYBE SURVEY IS NOT THE RIGHT WORD BUT JUST HAVING MAYBE A QUESTIONNAIRE OR A WEB PAGE, FOR EXAMPLE, WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO IN FOR THEIR SUGGESTION OR FEEDBACK SO WE CAN EXPLORE AT LOOKING AT SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND PRESS RELEASING THAT OUT WITH CATEGORIES AND THINGS OF THAT SORT AND GET PEOPLE'S INPUT. WE CAN SHARE THAT WITH STAKEHOLDERS AS WELL, SO WE COULD PROBABLY DEVELOP SOMETHING PRECOMPREHENSIVE IF THE DIRECTION IS TO GO THAT ROUTE, FOCUS ON COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND INPUT.

>> OKAY. >> CAN WE TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE BREAK?

>> LET ME WRAP THIS UP REAL QUICK. I GUESS YOU COULD IGNORE SOME OF THESE ASPECTS OF IT. WE'LL FOLLOW UP BUT THE ORIGINAL INTENT WAS TO MOVE ON SOME OF THIS FAIRLY QUICKLY OVER THE NEXT TWO MONTHS SO WE COULD START INCORPORATING ELEMENTS INTO THE FISCAL '22 BUDGET. WE CAN ALWAYS AMEND THE BUDGET. THE ELEMENTS THAT ARE EASIER FOR US TO GRASP ARE PROBABLY OUR OWN NEEDS, OPERATIONAL NEEDS. SOME WILL BE QUICKER TO FIGURE OUT. IN JUNE WE'LL SET UP MEETINGS WITH YOU TO UPDATE YOU ON BROADBAND SO WE ANTICIPATE MAKING A DECISION ON WHETHER WE NEED TO ALLOCATE ANY AMOUNT TO THAT OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS AND THAT MIGHT HELP PROVIDE SOME CLARITY BEHIND WHETHER THAT MONEY IS NEEDED OR NOT. IT DEPENDS ON WHAT WE WANT TO DO WHICH OBVIOUSLY IF THAT MONEY IS NOT NEEDED FOR THAT IT OPENS UP SPENDING MORE FOR OTHER CATEGORIES, IF YOU WILL, SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE THINK WE CAN HONE IN ON.

THE REVENUE LOSS IS INCORPORATED INTO FISCAL YEAR '22 FOR SOME CAPITAL PROJECTS SO MY POINT HERE IS WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GET A LITTLE OVER 7 MILLION THIS MONTH.

SOME OF THAT WE THINK WE CAN ALREADY ALLOCATE FOR FISCAL YEAR '22.

MY ORIGINAL HOPE WAS TO HAVE COMMITTEE MEETINGS OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS TO FIGURE SOME OF THOSE COMMUNITY-WIDE PROGRAMS OUT BUT IF THAT NEEDS TO WAIT UNTIL LATER, THAT'S FINE TOO.

>> I WAS GOING TO THROW IN, THEY'VE GOT THE 3 MILLION IN LOSS OF REVENUE THAT THEY'VE INDICATED IS ALREADY -- THEY'RE WORKING IT INTO THE BUDGET AND AS COUNCIL, REACHING A CONSENSUS ON WHAT THAT PART OF THE PLAN IS OR NOT AND IF SO IF THERE'S 7 MILLION COMING, 3 MILLION WOULD BE COMING OUT OF THAT SO INITIALLY WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT ALLOCATING FOUR HIM THIS YEAR AND THE REST NEXT YEAR, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO AT LEAST GIVE STAFF THAT MANY COMFORT

THAT THEY COULD MOVE FORWARD ON THAT ALLOCATION. >> CAN WE DO THAT DURING THE CIP

UPDATE? >> YEAH. ABSOLUTELY.

BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IF IT'S NOT THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO TRIM SOME OF THAT BACK.

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>> ALLOCATED. >> YEAH. >> .

>> I'M DONE. YOU CAN RECESS FOR A BREAK IF YOUWE'LL TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE

RECESS. [RECESS]. >> WE'LL GET AN UPDATE FROM

[2. Update on Grant Activity. Katy Connally, Grant Administrator]

KATIE. >> HI. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR PRO-TEM AND COUNCIL, I'M HERE TONIGHT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE GRANT ACTIVITY GOING ON SINCE I WAS HIRED ON IN APPROXIMATELY AUGUST AND I SAY APPROXIMATELY BECAUSE THERE WERE DEFINITE DATES BUT I TRANSITIONED THEN. WHAT I WANTED TO DO, BECAUSE I HAVEN'T TALKED TO YOU AT ALL ABOUT SINCE THE POSITION WAS CREATED SINCE I FILLED IT OR SINCE I STARTED IT, AND I HAVEN'T -- I WANTED TO START WITH KIND OF A REVIEW OF WHAT I DO.

THIS ISN'T WORKING. MUCH MORE GOES INTO GRANT ADMINISTRATION THAN WRITING GRANTS. I'VE COLLABORATED WITH STAFF SINCE I STARTED ON FOUR GRANTS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED AND THERE'S ONE IN PROGRESS NOW. AND SO WRITING OBVIOUSLY IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT BUT THAT DOESN'T COME YOU EVERY DAY. I DON'T SPEND ALL DAY DOING THAT. EVERY DAY IS RESEARCH INTO FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES, AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF READING BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS -- THE NOTICE OF FUNDING OPPORTUNITY, THERE'S ALWAYS A LOT OF GUIDANCE AND THERE'S A LOT OF BEST PRACTICES.

I'VE BEEN WORKING TO BUILD PROFESSIONAL NETWORKS FOR CONNECTIONS WITH FUNDERS, CONNECTIONS WITH OTHER GRANT PROFESSIONALS, CONNECTIONS WITH CITY STAFF, A LOT OF MEETING, A LOT OF COMMIT TEASE, A LOT OF MEETINGS, A LOT OF INFORMATION, WHAT ARE WE DOING, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO AND I DO SOME MANAGEMENT OF CURRENT GRANTS. I DON'T MANAGE ALL OF THEM BECAUSE A LOT OF THEM ARE ESTABLISHED GRANTS THAT HAVE STAFF ASSIGNED TO THEM ALL RIGHT BUT I DO MANAGEMENT OF SOME OF OUR CURRENT GRANTS IN ADDITION TO LIAISONS ON LARGER PROJECTS, AND A LOT OF TRAINING. THAT'S REALLY COMPETITIVE BUT THE MOST COMPETITIVE HIT A SWEET SPOT OF AN OVERLAP OF THE FUNDER'S INTENT FOR THE FUNDING. WHY ARE THEY PROVIDING THE FUNDING? THEY HAVE CRITERIA. THE MOST COMPETITIVE PROPOSALS ARE HITTING RIGHT IN THAT SWEET SPOT AND A LOT OF TRAINING THAT I'VE DONE TOO HAS HELPED WITH HOW TO FIND FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES THAT HIT THAT WHICH BOILS DOWN TO A LOT OF ADVANCED SEARCH TECHNIQUES BUT SECRET TIPS AND TRICKS ON WHERE TO LOOK.

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FUNDERS FROM STATE AND FEDERAL SOURCES WANT TO HELP LOCAL COMMUNITIES NOT NEED TO RELY ON STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FUNDS AS AN EVENTUALALITY. THAT'S WHY THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF MITIGATION FUNDING AVAILABLE SPECIFICALLY IN OUR AREA BECAUSE THIS FUNDING IS ADDRESSING SOME OF THE DISASTERS WE'VE HAD, HURRICANE HARVEY, COVID-19 OF COURSE EVERYONE HAS HAD THAT BUT ALSO OUR RECENT WINTER STORM. THERE'S FUNDING BECOMING AVAILABLE.

THERE'S SOME ALREADY AND THERE'S MORE COMING AVAILABLE TO HELP WITH THAT'S.

SOME OTHER KEY THINGS PROJECT READINESS AND ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO MENTION ABOUT PROJECT READINESS IS THE LENGTH OF TIME IT TAKES TO GET FROM AUTHORIZING THE CITY TO APPLY FOR A GRANT AND ACTUALLY STARTING TO DIG IN THE GROUND AND MY EXAMPLE THERE IS IN LATE '18 COUNCIL AUTHORIZED THE CITY TO APPLY FOR THE CDBC DISASTER RELIEF FUNDS.

WE'LL BE POTENTIALLY ADVERTISING BIDS FOR THE FLOODGATES NEXT MONTH.

SO THAT STARTED IN LATE 2018. IT TAKES A GREAT AMOUNT OF TIME WHERE THE FUNDER IS RECOMMENDING AN AWARD. YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH CONTRACT NEGOTIATION PROCESS AND THEN YOU HAVE TO START THE WORK AND THERE'S A HUGE AMOUNT OF PLANNING AND ENGINEERING THAT GOES ON IN THE BACKGROUND. IT TOOK A LONG TIME. THAT'S WHY I THINK A LOT OF FUNDERS ARE LOOKING FOR PROJECT READINESS. IF YOU'RE NOT CLOSE TO BEING READY IT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY LONG TIME BEFORE THERE'S ANY RESULTS SEEN.

THE ABILITY TO QUANTIFY AND MEASURE THINGS ARE REALLY KEY FEATURES.

A LOT OF FUNDERS SPECIFICALLY MENTION SMART GOALS. SOME OF THEM JUST IMPLY.

THEY WANT TO SEE THE SPECIFIC MEASURABLE ACHIEVABLE REALISTIC AND TIMELY BECAUSE THEY WANT TO LOOK BACK AND BE ABLE TO SEE THAT THEIR INVESTMENT PRODUCED THE RESULT YOU SAID IT WAS GOING TO PRODUCE SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE TO SAY WELL, WE DID THIS SPECIFICALLY.

SO THAT BRINGS ME TO THE CURRENT FUNDING. IT'S OBVIOUSLY TOO SMALL TO READ AND I HAD TO CRAM THE ACRONYMS IN THERE BUT I WANTED THIS TO SO WE HAVE A LITTLE OVER $10 MILLION IN THERE, AND 90 PERCENT IS COVERED BY THE FUNDERS, ABOUT 14 PROGRAM, 4 PERCENT LOCAL INVESTMENT AND THAT VARIES FROM PROJECTS TO PROJECTS.

SOME PROJECTS WE PUT IN A LOT MORE AND SOME, NOT. SOME OF OUR CURRENT PROGRAMS, WE HAVE SEVEN PUBLIC SAFETY PROGRAMS AND PROJECT. THREE LARGE ONES.

THIS IS OUTSIDE OF THE CARES ACT FUNDING AND OUTSIDE OF AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN FUNDING BUT WE HAVE GRANTS HELPING US PAY FOR SUPPLIES OVER TIME AND SOME TECHNOLOGY UPGRADES TO HELP OUT WITH THAT. AND SO BEFORE I MOVE ON TO PENDING FUNDING, WERE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT CURRENT PROJECTS? PENDING FUNDING LOOKS LIKE A WHOLE LOT MORE. WE WENT FROM 10 MILLION TO ALMOST $60 MILLION.

THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE THE CDBG MITIGATION PROJECT TO RELIEVE FUNDING IS $54 MILLION FOR THE PROJECT. WE HAVEN'T HEARD ABOUT THAT ONE YET.

BUT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE SEVERAL PENDING REALLY EXCITING THINGS. WE'RE STILL IN THE PROGRESS ON THE APPLICATION FOR THE SIDEWALK PROJECT WITH TXDOT. WE TALKED ABOUT THE GREEN RIBBON PROJECT TO ENHANCE COMMUNITY APPEARANCE, ALONG 463. WE'VE ASLIDE FOR FUNDING FROM PRIVATE FOUNDATIONS FOR IMPROVEMENT TO THE FIRE ACADEMY AND WE'VE ALSO APPLIED FOR FUNDING FOR FIRST RESPONDER MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAM. I WANTED TO SAY THAT WHILE THERE ARE ABOUT EIGHT GRANTS HERE THAT WE'VE APPLIED FOR, THERE'S ONE THAT I ALREADY KNOW THAT WE

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AND WHILE IT IS DISAPPOINTING, IT'S VERY DISAPPOINTING, THERE'S SUMMIT GATING FACTORS WITH THAT.

THE FIRST, WE DON'T NEED TO WAIT ANOTHER FOUR TO SIX MONTHS TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION NOW.

WE CAN START RIGHT AWAY. THE OTHER THING THAT MITIGATES IT JUST A BIT IS THAT FUNDING IS AVAILABLE EVERY YEAR SO LATER THIS YEAR WHEN THE NOTICE OF FUNDING OPPORTUNITY OPENS UP ON THAT AND WE'VE COMPLETED OUR MARKS MASTER PLAN AND COME UP WITH ANOTHER PROJECT TO SUBMIT AND THAT PARKS MASTER PLAN'S REALLY GOING TO HELP THE SCORE ON THAT BUT HE IT'S LEG GOING TO GIVE US A CHANCE TO TALK TO OUR LIAISON AND OUR STAFF AND FIND OUT HOW WE CAN INCREASE IT, WHAT

CAN WE DO BETTER NEXT TIME. >> IF I CAN JUMP IN TOO. IN REGARDS TO THE DUCK POND, YES, WE GOT THE SAD NEWS THAT WE WERE THREE AWAY FROM BEING FUNDED SEWED WE DO INTEND TO GO TO AUSTIN TO MEET WITH THE COMMITTEE TO MAKE OUR CASE SO WE PLAN TO DO THAT AND THAT'S ON MAY 27TH SO THE COMMITTEE WILL MEET. WE HAVE ALTERNATIVES PLANS INTERNALLY TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT. SO EVEN IF IT DOESN'T GETS FUNDED WE DO HAVE THE MEANS INTERNALLY TO FIND WAY TO DO THE PROJECT.

>> THAT GRANT IS AT THIS POINT IN TIME AS FAR AS WE KNOW, WE DIDN'T GET IT BUT WE'VE RECENTLY APPLIED FOR PRIVATE FOUNDATION GRANT TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS AT QUEENS CITY PARK AND WILL ROGERS PARK. MOVING FORWARD THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES CURRENTLY AND UPCOMING THAT WILL HELP SUPPORT THE CITY'S EFFORT TO STAND AND BUILD RESILIENCY, ALONG WITH FISCAL YEAR '21 THROUGH '23EDA PLANNING AND LOCAL TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM AND THAT'S JUST TO NAME A COUPLE. TODAY WE FOUND OUT THERE'LL BE COMING OUT WITH A LOT MORE NOTICE OF FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES IN MAYBE A COUPLE OF WEEKS TO A MONTH.

THERE'S ALSO MITIGATION FUNDING BECOMING AVAILABLE FROM FEMA THROUGH TDEM IN RESPONSE.

THEY'RE CURRENTLY FUNDING PROJECTS TO HELP COVER THE COSTS FOR THE IMMEDIATE RESPONSE.

THEY'RE LOOKING FOR DATA, THE STAFF IS LOOKING FOR SUPPORTING DATA TO MAKE THE CASE TO FEMA FOR THIS. THIS COULD INCLUDE A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS TO THE WATER SYSTEM. AND SO I WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT SOME OTHER PROJECTS THAT FUNDING COULD BE USED FOR SPECIFICALLY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUNDING, COULD BE USED FROM EVERYTHING TO INFRASTRUCTURE TO PROMOTING TOURISM FOR THE MAIN STREET PROGRAM AND AS WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE TOO SUPPORT FOR LOCAL BUSINESSES, THAT COULD INCLUDE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AND FINANCIAL GUIDANCE AND THE EDA ALSO FUNDS PLANNING PRONGING WHICH MEANS WE COULD APPLY FOR ASSISTANCE WITH PLANNING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT AND SUBSEQUENTLY APPLY FOR FUNDING THE ACTUAL PROJECT, AND IT COULD BE ANYTHING FROM EDUCATION AND JOB TRAINING, TO NAME A FEW. AND THEN AS MENTIONED EARLIER I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT EXPANDING THE GRANT OFFICE AND WHAT THAT WILL MEAN FOR THE CITY. IT WILL EXPAND OUR CAPACITY FOR GRANTS IN GENERAL. OF COURSE IT WILL EXPAND OUR CAPACITY TO APPLY FOR MORE GRANTS AND MANAGE BIGGER GRANTS BUT WE'LL ALSO BE ABLE TO DESIGN AND MANAGE GRANT PROGRAMS TO UTILIZE RESCUE ACT FUNDING TO SUPPORT BUSINESSES IN THE COMMUNITY.

BUT INCREASED STAFF WILL ALSO HELP INCREASE PUBLIC AWARENESS OF GRANT PROGRAMS, THROUGH GOOD PUBLIC RELATIONSHIPS AND ENHANCED COMMUNICATIONS WE CAN CREATE ENGAGE MEANT FOR UPCOMING PROJECTS AND PUBLIC SUPPORT WILL MAKE ANY PROPOSAL WE SUBMIT MORE COMPETITIVE.

I DO KNOW THERE'S GRANT PROJECTS OR PROGRAMS OUT THERE WHERE IF IT'S SO KEY IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT YOU WON'T GET THE FUNDING. THAT'S REALLY A BIG GOAL. AND THEN ALSO TO INCREASE OUR

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WE GET A BILL FROM THE CONTRACTOR AND WE PAY IT AND GET REIMBURSED OR WE APPROVE THAT THE WORK WAS DONE AND THAT GETS SENT TO THE FUNDER AND THE FUNDER PAYS THE GRANT CONTRACTOR. THAT'S FOR ADMINISTRATION. WHILE THIS MONEY IS NOT COMING OUT OF THE CITY'S BUDGET DIRECTLY MANAGING FEDERAL GRANTS IN HOUSE WILL HELP US INCLUDE THE INDIRECT COST RATES IN OUR PROPOSALS WHICH IS 10 PERCENT OF THE TOTAL PROJECT COST AND THAT FUNDING WOULD BE RETAINED BY THE CITY TO PAY FOR OVERHEAD INCLUDING STAFF, TECHNOLOGY, SUPPLIES, OFFICE SPACE. GOING FORWARD WE CAN WORK TOWARD NEGOTIATING AN INDIRECT COST RATE HIGHER AND WHAT THAT MEANS, IT'S AN ACCOUNTING PROCESS. IT'S APPLIED TO ALL FEDERAL AWARDS GOING FORWARD AND IT'S EFFECTIVE FOR USUALLY FOR A FISCAL YEAR AND THEN IT NEEDS TO

BE RENEGOTIATED. >> KATIE, A COMMENT. THAT'S A KEY POINT.

IN THE PRIOR YEARS WE HAVEN'T USED THIS. IF YOU GO INTO A MORE AGGRESSIVE MODE, YOU DO WANT TO DO THIS. WHAT IT IS, YOU ESTABLISH A COST.

YOU DO SOME ANALYSIS AND SUBMIT IT TO THE FEDS, AND ONCE IT'S APPROVED YOU'RE SET.

THAT'S MONEY ON THE TABLE IF YOU WANT TO GET INTO THAT PROCESS AND THAT'S A GIVEN IN THE

FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S SIDE, ON THE FEDERAL SIDE. >> HAVING A LOWER INDIRECT COST ISN'T OF ANY BENEFIT. YOU DON'T GET MORE POINTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

>> INCORRECT COSTS RATE ANALYSIS IS THAT YOU SUBMIT DOCUMENTATIONS AS TO WHAT DOES IT COST YOU AS AN ENTITY TO RUN THE PROGRAMS AND WHAT IS YOUR OVERHEAD BECAUSE OF THIS.

IN OTHER WORDS, KATIE MIGHT HAVE X PERCENT OF COST RIGHT NOW ACROSS THE BOARD WHICH IS ALLOCATED TO THE CITY OF VICTORY BUT HOW MUCH OF THAT TIME IS ASSOCIATED TO EACH INDIVIDUAL GRANT SO YOU ANALYZE IT AND YOU COME UP WITH AN ACTUAL COST FROM THE WORKSHEETS.

IT'S NOT A SIMPLE ONE PAGE. SAME THING YOU DO WITH YOUR TIME AND OFFICE SUPPLIES AND COMPUTER USE, IT, EVERYTHING ELSE, AND YOU ALLOCATE ALL THAT COST INTO ONE AREA.

YOU CAN EVEN USE THE BUILDING YOURSELF. >> IT'S A PLUG-IN FACTOR.

IT DOESN'T ENCOURAGE YOU TO BE EFFICIENT. IT'S JUST WHAT IS YOUR NUMBER?

>> EXACTLY. LIKE YOU ARE SUBMITTING THE PAPERWORK TO THE GOVERNOR SAYING IT COSTS X PERCENT OF DOLLARS TO DO THIS OPERATION AND WE WOULD LIKE TO GET THIS TYPE OF REIMBURSEMENT AND HERE'S THE PROOF. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?

>> UH-HUH. >> IT'S LIKE WITH THE IRS, MY HOME EXPENSE DEDUCTION.

>> NOT LIKE A FLAT 20 PERCENT OR 15 PERCENT. >> NO.

IT ALL DEPENDS. YOU GATHER THE DOCUMENTATION, YOUR FINANCIALS AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND YOU SUBMIT THIS INFORMATION TO THE FEDS AND THEY APPROVE IT OR DISAPPROVE IT ORED A JUST IT OR WHATEVER THE CASE AND COME TO AN AGREEMENT. IT'S EASY FOR THE FEDS TO MANAGE. YOU HAVE A SET PERCENTAGE ESTABLISHED AND USUALLY YOU HAVE THAT DOCUMENT. HERE IT IS. IT COMES IN VERY HANDY ESPECIALLY WITH FEMA PROGRAMS BECAUSE IF WE HAVE THAT I DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT KEEPING LABOR HOURS AND ALL THAT. I CAN ALLOCATE X DOLLARS PER HOUR.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THAT'S A BIG BENEFIT IN THAT. I APPLAUD KATIE BECAUSE THAT IS

A HIGH THING THAT I RECOMMEND TO BE DONE. >> I WOULD LIKE ABOUT SOMETHING

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SALES TAX, GRANTS. >> I GOT YOU COVERED. >> BECAUSE I DON'T THINK PEOPLE REALLY SEE -- THEY HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH WE REALLY GET. IT'S A LOT OF MONEY AND THANK

YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO. >> YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. WHAT GOOD ABOUT THIS, UPGRADING, YOU'RE ABLE TO DO THIS STUFF. A YEAR AGO, TWO YEARS AGO, I NEED AN EXCEL SHEET.

>> WE CAN INCORPORATE A SUMMARY IN OUR TRANSMITTAL LETTER, AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY WRITTEN BY MYSELF, SLASH, GILBERT THAT GOES AT THE BEGINNING OF THE BUDGET, SO WE COULD DO THAT.

LAST YEAR WE INTEGRATED THE USAGE OF BUDGET HIGHLIGHTS. YOU MAY RECALL THAT.

WE COULD EASILY INCORPORATE IT INTO A HIGHLIGHT BUDGET DOCUMENT AS WELL.

>> THAT WAS ALL I HAD UNLESS THERE'S WAS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. >> I'LL WRAP UP.

[3. Update on the Capitol Improvement Program. Gilbert Reyna, Chief Financ...]

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> THE FINAL REPORT IS THE CIP

UPDATE FROM GILBERT AND TODD. >> IT'S LIKE I HAVEN'T TALKED TO YOU IN A WHILE.

I APPRECIATE IT. QUICKLY, I WANT TO HAVE TODD, CIP PROJECT MANAGER, I THOUGHT HE NEEDS TO MAN UP AND GET YOU HERE WITH ME AND TAKE SOME OF THIS HEAT AWAY FROM ME.

LISTEN, BEFORE I GO OFF ON AN TANGENT AND START TALKING ABOUT THE CIP, LET ME HAND OUT -- THIS IS FOR CONVERSATION LATER, TAKE IT HOME AND LOOK AT IT. I THINK EARLIER WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE ARP AND HOW THE $3 MILLION INFLUENCES THE CIP. I WENT UP TO MY OFFICE AND PRINTED OUT THE TABLE. THIS IS MY WORKING FILE. IT'S NOT THE PRETTY THING YOU USE TO SEE IN A BINDER BUT THIS IS WHERE IT COMES FROM. AND TODD MAKES IT PRETTIER THAN THAT. THIS IS JUST MY WORKING FILE. BASICALLY I WANTED TO POINT OUT THE FIRST COLUMN, THAT'S GENERAL FUND FOR '22. ON TOP, I'M PROPOSING TO FUND THE CIP, ABOUT $8.3 MILLION, CIP, AND IF YOU GO BACK TO PRIOR YEARS WE'VE NEVER BEEN THAT HIGH. ON THE BOTTOM IS THE TOTAL. 8.2, PROJECT.

THAT LEAVES ABOUT $140,000 LEFT WHICH IS GOING TO BE USED IN '23.

THAT'S WHERE THE PROJECTS ARE, THE MONEY'S GOING TOWARDS. I DON'T EXPECT AN ANSWER BUT THIS IS SOMETHING FOR YOU TO GO BACK AND THINK ABOUT AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND WE CAN HAVE OTHER MEETINGS AND YOU CAN SIT DOWN WITH MR. GARZA. WE COULD HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS. I DON'T WANT TO FOCUS TOO MUCH ON THIS BUT IT'S YOUR TIME.

>> I WOULD NEED MY GLASSES TO LOOK AT IT. >> YOU DIDN'T BRING YOUR

GLASSES? >> NO. >> TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION, CIP UPDATE, TWO POINTS OF ORDER. I WAS SITTING THERE EARLIER AND LISTEN TO EVERYBODY TALK ABOUT CRESTWOOD AND TANGLE WOOD, FABULOUS CONVERSATION. HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WE HAD A CIP MEETING IN PRIOR YEARS, WE STARTED OUR CIP MEETING IN MAY, MAYBE ONE OR TWO MEETINGS AFTER THAT. WE HAVE FOUR MEETINGS. I THINK THAT'S GREAT.

THAT'S GREAT INPUT, GREAT DISCUSSION, SO AT LEAST YOU'VE GOT A PRODUCT COMING OUT OF THIS. YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT, THE BRIGHT SIDE OF THIS WHOLE THING.

FOLKS, THIS IS A LIVING DOCUMENT. TODAY IS THIS AND TOMORROW IS SOMETHING ELSE, AND NEXT YEAR IS SOMETHING ELSE. IT'S NOT A CONCRETE PLAN.

IT'S A START. IT'S NOT A FINISH AND YOU KEEP MOVING TOWARDS THAT GOAL, AND THE GOAL WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE. FOR GOD SAKE, SOME OTHER NEW MEMBERS ON BOARD, THEY MIGHT

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I HOPE EVERYBODY SEES THAT, MOVING TOWARDS A DIRECTION THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE A LOT OF THINGS WITHIN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING TO LOOK AT.

WITH THAT I WON'T SAY ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT. THE SECOND PART, IT'S NICE TO HAVE FREE MONEY BUT IT'S A PAIN. I'M SORRY. BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN COME OUT THROUGH THIS AND FIND THOSE BUCKETS AND IT WILL MAKE EVERYTHING WORK.

AGAIN, REITERATING, IT HELPS THE COMMUNITY OVERALL. TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION, TWO SECTIONS IN HERE, COUNCIL. THE FIRST SECTION, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE.

WHAT IS WAS IN MARCH, THE FIRST ONE I GAVE YOU. IGNORE WE HAD THIS MEETING MAY FOUR. I REVERSED EVERYTHING OUT. THERE'S FOR ALLY RP MONEY IN THERE. I PUT ALL THE REVENUE BOND BACK LIKE YOU FIRST HAVE SEEN IT BACK IN MARCH. THAT'S THE FIRST SECTION. TODD WILL HELP ME GO OVER THE CHANGES THAT YOU ALREADY HEARD BEFORE BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE SINCE THE PUBLIC IS SEEING IT TOO. THE SECOND PART OF THE PRESENTATION, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TANGLE WOOD OPTION. IN THERE THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE COUNCIL ON THE DOLLARS WITHOUT CHANGING ANYTHING, LIKE YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE. THIS IS THE EFFECT IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS OTHER OPTION. YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE BOTTOM LINE LOOKS LIKE.

IS THAT OKAY? ALL RIGHT. TODD, ARE YOU GOING TO WALK THEM

THROUGH THE CHANGES, SIR. >> THANK YOU. >> CLARIFY.

THIS IS JUST WHERE YOU THINK HE AWARE TODAY. THIS IS NOT SET?

STONE EITHER, WHAT YOU HANDED OUT TO US? >> WHAT YOU HAVE THERE IS AS OF

TODAY. >> THIS COMING FISCAL YEAR. >> RIGHT.

I HAVE OTHER WORKSHEETS BUT I WANT TO SHOW IN '22 WHERE THAT MONEY WAS GOING.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR PRO-TEM AND COUNCIL, GILBERT PRETTY MUCH SOME EVERYTHING UP.

I WANTED TO GO OVER SOME OF THESE PROPOSED ADJUSTMENTS TO THE CIP.

SOME YOU HAVE SEEN, THE MAIN STREET SANITARY SEWER LINE PROJECT.

I THINK KEN BROUGHT THIS UP THE FIRST MEETING IN MAY. THIS IS PROPOSED DECREASE IN $187,000 TO THE CIP FOR FISCAL YEAR '22. THIS WAS A CRITICAL PATH AND AMENDED THE '21 BUDGET AND MOVED THE ENGINEERING COSTS TO '21. IT DECREASED THE NEED FOR THE UTILITY REVENUE BOND IN '22. THIS NUMBER TWO HERE, A TRAFFIC SIGNAL, WATER STREET AND MOODY STREET. THIS WAS TALKED ABOUT LAST COUNSEL MEETING.

THIS IS AN UPDATE TO THE SIGNAL THERE AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE SPAN WIRE THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO UPGRADE TO MASS ARMS WITH HOLES AND THIS IS AN INCREASE TO THE CIP OF 175,000.

THAT WILL BE COMING FROM THE GENERAL FUND. AIRLINE SANITARY SEWER REPLACEMENT MEANT PROJECT, THIS IS ADVERTISED THIS SUNDAY. THIS PROJECT HERE IN FISCAL YEAR '22 WAS MOVED UP INTO THE AIRLINE UTILITY REPLACEMENT PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO BE ADVERTISED THIS SUNDAY SO THAT WAS A DECREASE IN THE CIP OF 208,000.

AGAIN, DECREASE IN THE UTILITY FUND. >> YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THIS.

IT'S A DECREASE BECAUSE YOU'RE MOVING IT FROM ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT?

>> YES. WELL, INITIALLY FUNDING THIS PROJECT IN '22 FROM THE UTILITY

OPERATING FUND. >> BUT INSTEAD YOU'RE DOING THIS YEAR -- [CROSSTALK] --

>> COST SAVINGS. THIS IS ANOTHER CRITICAL PATH PROJECT.

I THINK IN '19 WE HAD PORTION OF THIS, A FAILURE THAT RESULTED IN A $200,000 EMERGENCY COST AND SO

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THIS PROJECT HERE, THE ONE YOU SEE IN NUMBER THREE. >> THANK YOU.

>> I'LL SKIP TO NUMBER FOUTH QUARTER AND LET GILBERT -- YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT NOW?

>> I'LL TAKE IT NOW. NUMBER FOUR, BASICALLY IT'S ALL THE MOVEMENTS, I STILL HAVE OBLIGATIONS WHEN IT COMES TO THE BUDGETARY SIDE. IN '22 THERE'S A LOT OF BUDGET AREA REQUESTS FOR ONE TIME TOO, THE WATER FUND UTILITY SIDE. AND LIKE I MENTIONED LAST WEEK I HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE 25 PERCENT MINIMUM FUND BALANCE. WHAT THIS DOES IS BRING IN MONEY, EVENTUALLY CASH BACK TO THE FUND TO MAKE IT STABLE. THAT'S ALL THAT IS.

>> . >> SO NUMBER FIVE, PROPOSED ADJUSTMENT.

THIS IS A MOCKINGBIRD MILL AND OVERLAY STREET PROJECT FROM LAURENT TO NAVARRO.

THIS PROJECT WAS SPLIT UP. WE HAD 166,000 FUNDED FROM THE GENERAL FUND AND THE REMAINING PORTION WAS IN THE VSTDC, ROUGHLY 166,000. NUMBER SIX, THIS IS THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT 463 AND NAVARRO. THIS WAS AN ADDED PROJECT THAT CAME OUT OF THE BUDGET PROCESS.

THIS IS A COST INCREASE OF 625,000 AND THAT WILL BE ADDED TO THE CIP IN FISCAL YEAR '26 AND COME FROM -- BE FUNDED FROM VSTDC. FISCAL YEAR.

>> I DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH MUCH ON THIS TABLE BECAUSE WHAT HE ACTUALLY MENTIONED THE PAST FEW SLIDES IS SHOWING YOU ON THE CASH FLOW SLIDE WHAT IS ADDED AND DEDUCTED SO I FIGURED IF YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH IT, WE CAN, BUT IT'S THE SAME THING THAT I'M REPEATING NOW.

WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO GO THROUGH IT? THAT'S OKAY.

THE SECOND PAGE IS THE COST SIDE THAT HE JUST MENTIONED. IN OTHER WORDS, REMEMBER WE TALKED ABOUT THE -- [INDISCERNIBLE] -- AND IT JUST REFLECTED HERE FROM CASH.

I STARTED OFF WITH A BEGINNING BALANCE ON MARCH FROM THE CASH AND PROJECTS AND I'M SHOWING THE CHANGES AND THEN WHAT'S LEFT AS OF TODAY BOTTOM LINE YOU CAN SEE AVAILABLE FUNDS AND OF COURSE THE REVENUE UTILITIES, THE SAME NUMBER, ARP, AND AS OF MARCH WE HAD ABOUT $132 MILLION PROPOSED FUNDING WITH $119 MILLION IN PROJECTS WHICH LEAVES YOU OF APPROXIMATELY $12.7 MILLION, OVER THE FIVE-YEAR PROGRAM. MAY 18, IT WENT DOWN BY 592. IF YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDES AND ADD IT UP, IT COMES OUT TO 592. YOUR PROJECTS WAS INCREASED BY 119,000.

THE 907,000 DECREASE IN REDUCED FUNDING. IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE BACK IN MAY I THINK YOU WERE SEEING $6 MILLION COMING IN, $5 MILLION COMING OFF, ON THE REVENUE SO THAT'S TAKEN OUT COMPLETELY. EVERYTHING IS BACK TO MAY 26, MINOR CHANGES ON SWITCHING FUNDS AROUND. BASICALLY ON THE CAPACITY SIDE, I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL THIS. BUT AGAIN YOUR BLUE IS WHAT WE'RE ISSUES -- PROPOSED TO ISSUE. THE CANDY DESCRIBE I GUESS BLUE, I COULDN'T FIGURE ANOTHER ONE OUT, IS TO WHAT'S AVAILABLE, STILL REMAINING, THAT WE CAN MOVE BACK AND FORTH WHENEVER COUNCIL DECIDES THEY WANT TO USE IT UP SO BASICALLY WHAT HAS CHANGED FROM MARCH 26TH THROUGH MAY 18 IS THE REDUCTION IN 2022 REVENUE BOND, ABOUT $187,000.

THAT'S BECAUSE AS TODD MENTIONED WE'RE DOING THAT PROJECT NOW. MAKE SENSE? YOU STILL HAVE THE CAPACITY. IT GOES UP BY 187. 86.6, YOU HAD.

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YOUR AVAILABLE CAPACITY BACK IN MAY WAS CLOSE TO $100 MILLION. AS OF TODAY IT'S CLOSE TO $100,000. AGAIN, AS COUNCIL DECIDES TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND AS IT GROWS AND MATURES AND CHANGES THOSE NUMBERS ON THE BOTTOM ON THE CANDY-STRIPED COLOR DEAL

MOVE FORWARD OR BACKWARDS. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. I KNOW YOU ARE EXTREMELY WITH BUDGET AND DOING THIS STUFF. ALL OF THIS IS DONE WITH BLINDERS ON WITH RELATION TO

HOUSE BILL 1869 THAT DEALS WITH HOW DEBT IS ISSUED BY A CITY? >> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

THE MAJORITY OF THESE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE DEBT AND THE ONCE YOU SEE FROM '22 TO '26, RIGHT NOW AS GIVEN, CIP, RIGHT NOW, ARE MAINLY RELATED AND ALLOWABLE THROUGH THE CURRENT IF IT GOES THAT AWAY. IF IT GOES SOUTH LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LIVEABILITY PROJECTS, PARKS, WE MIGHT HAVE TO LOOK AT IT DIFFERENTLY. RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT IN THERE.

>> I WAS MAKING SURE WE WERE STAYING THE COURSE WITH WHAT WE -- [CROSSTALK] --

>> YES, SIR, I'M NOT -- [CROSSTALK] -- >> IT WOULDN'T AFFECT US IN '22

-- [CROSSTALK] -- >> WE'RE NOT BORROWING MONEY. >> THE '24 AND THE 25 --

[CROSSTALK] -- >> AS EVERYTHING STANDS NOW YOU SHOULD BE OKAY.

>> BILL 1869 IS INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT WHERE TO PREDICT WHERE WE'RE GOING.

IT PASSED OUT OF THE HOUSE WITH SIGNIFICANT AMENDMENTS AND TAKE TO THE COMMITTEE YESTERDAY IN THE SENATE. DEENA WILLIAMS AND I WENT TO AUSTIN TO TESTIFY ON THAT BILL AND MOST OF THE AMENDMENTS WERE STRIPPED OUT OF THE BILL. ONLY TWO BE ADDED BACK IN LATER IN THE PROCESS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STATUS OF THAT BILL WILL LOOK LIKE BY THE TIME IT COMES OF THE SENATE OR EVEN IF IT BILL COME OUT OF THE SENATE.

THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT OBJECTION TO IT IN COMMITTEE. AT THIS STAGE IT'S KIND OF A GUESSING GAME WHAT THAT BILL WILL LOOK LIKE AND HOW IT WILL IMPACT OUR FUTURE.

>> ONE CLARIFICATION, THE BILL RELATES TO TAX BREAKS. YOU'VE GOT TO SET IT SOMEWHERE ELSE, NOT THE TAX RATE, MY UNDERSTANDING. THAT'S NOT SAYING YOU CAN -- [INDISCERNIBLE] -- OR SOME OTHER TYPE OF REVENUE. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?

>> YES. >> WORST-CASE SCENARIO, WE HAVE TO THINK OUT THE BOX.

THAT'S MY POINT. ANY OTHER QUESTION BEFORE I MOVE ON?

>> ALL RIGHT. NOW, AS YOU WELL KNOW ALL THOSE AVAILABLE DEBT CAPACITY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENING NOW AND I'M GOING TO LET MIKE ADDRESS SOME

OF THESE BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF MASTER'S PLANS. >> THIS SLIDE COUNCIL TO REMIND YOU WE HAVE ONGOING MASTER PLANS AND AS YOU CAN SEE WE THE DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN, THOROUGHFARE, DOWNTOWN, PARKS, AND WE HAVE THE FACILITIES MASTER PLAN WHERE THE RFQS ARE DUE TOMORROW SO WE HAVE THE SLIDE HERE TO REMIND YOU THAT EACH OF THESE PLANS, SEPTEMBER FOR THE THOROUGHFARE MASTER PLAN WILL HAVE IMPLEMENTATION SECTIONS ALSO WITH FUNDING THINGS THAT NEED TO BE FUNDED SO IN THE SECTION YOU'LL HAVE, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR PARKS DOG PARK, SPLASH PADS, ALL THE THINGS WILL BE OUTLINED IN THE HAS THERE PLAN THAT WILL REQUIRE FUNDING SO WE JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU THIS SLIDE TO REMIND YOU THAT THEY WILL BE COMING IN TERMS OF

RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THESE PLANS. >> WE ALSO HAVE A COMPENSATION

STUDY TOO, RIGHT. >> THAT IS CORRECT. WE DO HAVE THAT TOO.

>> THANK YOU, GILBERT. >> THANK YOU, MIKE. THIS IS GOING TO BE CHALLENGING IF THE LAW GOES THE WAY -- NOT IN OUR FAVOR. THAT'S ALL.

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AS YOU WELL KNOW I HOPE AND IF YOU DON'T I'LL TELL YOU CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW IN THE CIP WE HAVE ABOUT $5.2 MILLION IN THE TANG STREETS. TODD WILL GO OVER THOSE WITH YOU. THIS WOULD ADD ON ANOTHER 5.2, $5.3 MILLION ON TOP OF THAT TO DEVELOP A PHASEOUT PROCESS WHICH WILL BRING IT UP TO $10.3 MILLION.

TODD? >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GILBERT. SO WE'LL GO OVER RIGHT NOW WHAT YOU SEE IS WE HAVE THE ORANGE STREETS AND THE BLUE STREETS. THE ORANGE REFLECTS WHAT WE HAVE IN THE CIP AS OF MARCH 26. THAT IS $5.1 MILLION FOR THAT PROJECT.

THE COLOR IN ORANGE THERE, LIKE I SAID. TO MAKE THIS A COMPLETE PHASE ONE OPTION THAT WOULD ENTAIL ADDING THE STREETS IN BLUE AND SO ADDITIONALLY THAT WOULD RAISE THE DESIGN OR THE ADDITIONAL COST FOR DESIGN, 390,000, 2.1 MILLION, UTILITIES, 2.7,

STREETS, AND BRINGING THE TOTAL COST FOR PHASE ONE, OR ONE. >> BOTH OPTIONS, ONE AND THE ORIGINAL, WHAT HAPPENS ON THE OTHER STREETS? IS THERE FOR CHIP SEAL?

NOTHING ELSE GOING ON? >> NOTHING ELSE IS PLANNED. >> THIS IS IN ADDITION.

>> THIS IS ADDED TO COMPLETE THE STREETS BUT NOTHING ON THOSE OTHER STREETS.

THEY'RE REALLY T TOO FAR GONE TO REALLY PUT A LOT OF MONEY INTO IT AND CHIP SEALING THEM WOULD

NOT IMPROVE THE RIGHT QUALITY AT ALL. >> .

>> LET ME HOLD THIS UP. WHAT IS THE RATING ON WESTWOOD, THE PCI RATING?

>> I CAN TELL YOU WHAT IT IS. 68, 64, AND 67. WHAT WAS THE AVERAGE RATING WHEN WE DID THE STUDY? 63. EVERY DISTRICT IN HERE AS LOT MORE STREETS THAT ARE WORSE OFF THAN TANGLEWOOD. DON'T GET ME WRONG.

I USED TO TALK ABOUT MY STREETS A LOT. ORIGINALLY MY STREETS WERE SUPPOSED TO BE DONE IN '20. I UNDERSTOOD AFTER A WHILE IT WASN'T A PROMISE.

IT'S NOT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROMISE. IT'S THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND IT'S SUBJECT TO CHANGE. WHEN WE HAD THE STUDY DONE, WE HAD ONE DONE WITH EQUIPMENT THAT MEASURED -- WASN'T MEASURED BY A PERSON WALKING DOWN WITH A CLIPBOARD AND THAT'S HOW IT USED TO BE DONE. ALL THE STREETS WERE MEASURED BY TECHNOLOGY AND I UNDERSTAND THAT TANGLEWOOD WANTS THEIR STREETS DONE.

I UNDERSTAND HOW THEY FEEL. I COULD NAME STREETS IN EVERY DISTRICT HERE.

BEFORE TANGLEWOOD STREETS GET DONE, AND IF YOU ARE GOING TO ADD STREETS, I'M NOT FOR THAT.

I LIKE THE ORIGINAL THING. WE HAVE TOO MANY STUDIES COMING UP.

WE NEED FLEXIBILITY GOING FORWARD. WE'LL HAVE A BETTER BOND RATING, AND WE'RE PAYING OFF DEBT. I WAS VERY HAPPY WITH THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL.

I WAS HAPPY AND I'M SAD. ALL MY STREETS IN CASTLE HILLS WEST AREN'T GOING TO GET DONE AND I ARGUED FOR THAT SINCE '13. THERE'S STREETS IN CASTLE HILLS WEST THAT ARE ACTUALLY EXITS TO

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AND I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE ADDED BECAUSE I THINK WE SHOULD STICK WITH THE ORIGINAL THING THAT WAS PROPOSED TO US. WE'LL HAVE A BETTER BOND RATING. IF WE HAVE TO GO OUT AND BORROW MONEY WE'LL BE IN A BETTER POSITION. WHEN WE GET THE STUDIES BACK THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT YOU THAT WE MAY WANT TO BUY BECAUSE THE CIP ISN'T JUST STREETS. IT'S PARK AND EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE CITY. I'D LIKE TO STICK WITH THE ORIGINAL PLAN AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW EVERYBODY ELSE ON THE COUNCIL FEELS ABOUT IT. BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO WITH AN OPTION I'M SORRY, THEN I'M GOING TO STAND UP HERE AND LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, IN RICKY'S DISTRICT, DR. YOUNG'S, DRIVE DOWN FERN STREET OR LILAC STREET AND TELL ME THOSE STREETS AREN'T WORSE THAN SOME OF THE STREETS, ESPECIALLY WESTWOOD AND TANGLEWOOD.

I WOULD SUGGEST IF WE CAN COME UP WITH MORE MONEY THE CIP MEETING MANAGER HAS LOT OF ALL THE BAD STREETS. IF WE COME UP WITH MORE MONEY, IF WE ADD MORE MONEY FROM THE AMERICAN RECOVERY ACT AND WE USE IT FOR STREETS THEN WE DO THE WORST STREETS FIRST.

THEY HAVE BAD STREETS THERE BUT THE ADDITIONS ARE NOT AS BAD AS HUNDREDS OF STREETS IN VICTORIA.

THERE'S OVER 100-PLUS NEIGHBORHOODS IN VICTORIA AND A LOT OF THEM HAVE BAD STREETS.

I'M NOT FOR CHANGING. THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS A GOOD PLAN F. WE COME UP WITH MONEY THEN I WOULD ASK THE MANAGER FOR CIP TO PRESENT SOME OTHER PROJECTS TO US BUT NOT JUST BECAUSE A NEIGHBORHOOD COMES AND TALKS ABOUT IT. WE'VE HAD NEIGHBORHOODS BEFORE, WOODWAY, OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT COME. IT NEEDS TO BE BASED ON WHAT ARE THE WORST STREETS AND STREETS THAT GO IN AND OUT OF NEIGHBORHOODS.

THAT'S MY FEELING. I LIKE TO KNOW HOW EVERYBODY ELSE FEELS.

>> I'M GOING TO JUMP IN. THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TANGLE WOOD AND THE OTHER SUBDIVISIONS WE'VE HEARD ABOUT. THE TANGLE WOOD STREETS WERE BAD IN '15 WHEN I GOT ON COUNCIL AND THE ANSWER WAS WE'RE NOT GOING TO REBUILD THOSE YET BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO GET TO THE UTILITIES FIRST. SO IT'S NOT COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES TO COMPARE TANGLE WOOD TO ANY OTHER SUBDIVISION UNLESS IT'S ONE YOU TELL ME IT'S GOT UTILITY PROBLEMS AS WELL SO IT'S A VERY EXPENSIVE FIX SO THE EASIEST THING TO DO IS LETS NOT DEAL WITH IT AND THEN IT'S LET'S WAIT UNTIL WE HAVE BOND CAPACITY OR UTILITY CAPACITY. WE HAD UTILITY CAPACITY AND IT WENT THERE. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE IT WENT.

I THINK IT GOT ABSORBED INTO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. THERE'S A LOT OF NEEDS BUT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A LIVING, BREATHING DOCUMENT AND YET COUNCILMAN LOFGRIS SAYS THIS IS IT. YOU DON'T WANT TO MAKE THE CHANGES SUGGESTED EARLIER BECAUSE THOSE CHANGE THE DOCUMENT FROM THE WAY IT WAS BUT I REALLY DON'T WANT TO DIGRESS FROM THAT. THERE'S A DIFFERENCE IN TANGLE WOOD.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADDRESS IT AT SOME POINT. I DON'T THINK IT'S EVEN GOING TO BE '27 THE WAY YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT. THE BOND CAPACITY, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE USING IT FOR OTHER THINGS SO TANGLE WOOD WILL BE, STILL NOTHING DONE ABOUT IT.

>> YOU CAN SAY THE SAME THING ABOUT CASTLE HILLS WEST. IF YOU LOOK AT, WHEN WE HAD THE MEETING ABOUT STREET IMPROVEMENTS AND WHEN WE HAD THE CIP MEETING IT GOT BROUGHT YOU THAT THE BEST WAY TO DO IT IS THE WORST STREETS IN NEIGHBORHOODS.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO ALL TANGLE WOOD YOU TELL THE PEOPLE IN CASTLE HILLS WEST WHY THEIR STREETS AREN'T GETTING DOWN OR VISTA DELL SOL. I ASKED YOU IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO

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NEIGHBORHOODS IN TOWN THAT NEED TO GET THEIR TREATS FIX. >> WHAT DOES IT TAKE FOR A BOND

ELECTION? >> YOU HAVE TO GET A MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL TO AGREE.

>> AND THE VOTERS. >> IF YOU DO IT FOR ONE NEIGHBORHOOD NONE OF THE OTHER.

>> I WOULDN'T DO THAT. IF THE NEED IS SO MUCH GREATER THAN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM IT'S TIME TO START TALKING ABOUT THAT PLUS THE FACT WE HAVE ALL THE OTHER PLANS COMING. THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF NEEDS.

>> WHAT ARE THE CONDITIONS OF THOSE UTILITIES SPECIFICALLY? WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN

THE ONES IN ORANGE AND BLUE? >> THEY'RE ALL ABOUT THE SAME. IT'S ALL BUILT IN THE 1950S AND 1960S OF THE THE SEWER, MOSTLY CLAY AND CONCRETE BUT MOSTLY CLAY AND IT'S CRACKED.

IT'S SPLIT. THE JOINTS ARE SEPARATING. THE WATER LINES ARE THE OLD

CAST-IRON AND THEY'RE SIX-INCH SO THEY'RE SMALL. >> WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE

BASE GETS WET AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS HAPPENING. >> UNLESS THERE'S A BREAK BUT I'M JUST SAYING AS THIS CONTINUES TO AGE THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE WATER BREAKS.

THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE SEWER STOPPAGES, MORE INTENSIVE CLEANING.

WE KNOW THE SEWER IS IN THE CONDITION IT'S IN BECAUSE IT'S BEEN TVED, TELEVISED AND CLEANED. WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT. WE KNOW THE CONDITION OF IT.

THERE'S OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE THE SAME SIMILAR SITUATION. TINGLE WOOD IS NOT JUST ALONE BY

ITSELF. >> IT'S NOT BY ITSELF. >> I UNDERSTAND IT'S IN YOUR DISTRICT AND I UNDERSTAND THAT BUT THERE ARE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE ISSUES UNDERGROUND TOO. GO TO DOWN FERN STREET OR LILAC AND I BELIEVE YOU REPLACED THE SEWERS THERE OR THE WATER LINES BECAUSE THERE'S -- YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE WHERE IT WAS REPLACED DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET. SAME WAY IN CASTLE HILLS.

THERE'S OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT NEED THEIR SEWERS. IF THEY WERE COLLAPSING, I WOULD SAY YES WE NEED TO DO IT NOW BUT THEY'RE NOT COLLAPSING. THE CIP MANAGER NEEDS TO HAVE A LIST OF PROJECTS. IT'S NOT JUST ON THE RATING OF THE STREET.

IT'S GOING TO BE ON IF THEY NEED THEIR SEWERS DONE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH ADDITIONAL MONEY FOR ADDITIONAL PRONGING I'M FOR IT BUT I'M FOR PAYING OFF DEBT AND I'M FOR HAVING FLEXIBILITY AND I'M FOR HAVING A BETTER BOND RATING SO THAT WE CAN FIX STREETS DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE I THINK IT'S THE BEST WAY TO GO. LET ME TALK ABOUT DEBT FOR A MINUTE WHICH I DON'T BRING UP.

IF YOU TAKE THE TOP 100 CITIES IN TEXAS WE HAVE ONE OF THE HIGHER RATES OF DEBT.

I BELIEVE IT'S 88TH OUT OF 100. IN OTHER WORDS THERE'S 87 CITIES THAT OF THEIR PROPERTY TAX THEIR PROPERTY TAX RATE, A SMALLER PERCENTAGE GOES TO DEBT.

NOW, IF YOU WANT TO INCUR MORE DEBT TO ME -- I USED TO BRING IT UP ALL THE TIME ABOUT BOND ISSUES AND THAT GENTLEMAN OVER THERE USED TO SAY, WE CAN'T DO THAT, OUR CREDIT CARD IS MAXED OUT, AND WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY, YES, FOR STREETS BUT WE ALSO HAVE A FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY TO THE CITY AND THE PLAN THAT GILBERT PRESENTED IS A MUCH BETTER USE OF OUR TAX

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WE COULD GO AROUND. I LIKE TO KNOW HOW EVERYBODY FEELS ABOUT IT.

>> EMOTIONALLY I WANT TO DO THE BLUE. I WOULD LOVE TO.

I LIKE THE PAY-DOWN OF THE DEBT PRESENTED WITH JUST THE ORANGE STREETS.

IF THE UTILITIES ARE STILL HOLDING IN THAT AREA THEN SEE IF WE CAN'T STRETCH THEM FOR A COUPLE MORE YEARS. YES, THIS IS A VERY EXPENSIVE NEIGHBORHOOD.

VERY EXPENSIVE. YOU MADE SOME GOOD ARGUMENTS AROUND ACTUAL STREET RATINGS.

IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO USE THOSE FOR REPAIRING STREETS WHY DID WE DO THIS STUDY.

>> DID THAT STUDY LOOK AT JUST THE SURFACE OR -- [CROSSTALK] -- >> THE BASE.

>> IT DID LOOK AT THE BASE? >> AM I CORRECT? MR. GILL?

>> DID A SONAR OF THE BASE OF THE RECOGNIZE. >> THEY DID THE BASE FOR THE COLLECTORS. IT WOULD BE WAY TOO EXPENSIVE. I KNOW THERE'S NOT MUCH BASE

THERE. IT'S NOT EVEN CALICHE. >> NOTHING LIKE WE PUT IN NOW.

>> NO. >> WHEN WE START ADDING THINGS, YOU KNOW, MARK'S CORRECT.

THERE'S OTHER STREETS THAT NEED IT AND ARE ON THE RADAR TO GET DONE AND THEN THEY GET PUT ON THE BACK BURNER, SO IT'S ALMOST A DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD OF THE WE'RE GOING TO GET CUT ONE WAY AND CUT THE OTHER. ARE WE GOING TO DO THIS EVERY YEAR, ADD STRAIGHTS AT WILL OR RANDOM ACCORDING TO -- ADD STREETS AT WILL OR FROM RANDOM COMPLAINTS OR USE THE STUDY AND

EVALUATIONS? >> MADAM MAYOR PRO-TEM, IF I MAY MAKE A SUGGESTION.

I KNOW THIS IS NOT AN ITEM UP FOR VOTE TONIGHT AND THERE DOESN'T NEED TO BE A HARD DECISION. THIS IS JUST A CITY MANAGER'S REPORT BUT IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THE DISCUSSION IS STALLING WITHOUT A DECISION AND PERHAPS IT MIGHT BE BETTER IF YOU WERE TO SIMPLY POLL THE TABLE AS IF WE WERE GOING TO VOTE TONIGHT WHERE WOULD ] FALL OUT ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE AND THAT MAY GIVE STAFF A CLEARER DIRECTION ABOUT WHAT COUNCIL HAS W

HOLE IS INTERESTED IN DOING. >> I WOULD VETERAN FOR THE ORIGINAL PLAN.

>> I WOULD VOTE FOR THE AMENDMENT PRESENTED. >> I'D GO WITH THE ORIGINAL

PLAN. >> THE ORIGINAL. >> ORIGINAL.

>> WHAT ABOUT ALL THE CHANGES THAT THEY TALKED ABOUT? IS THAT JUST TO BE ABLE TO DO TANGLE WOOD OR DO YOU NEED TO DO THOSE, THE MAIN STREET, 187,000, DOWN WATER AND MOODY.

>> ALL THAT'S BEEN INCORPORATED -- THOSE ARE IN THERE, UNLESS YOU SAY, GILBERT,

I DON'T WANT THOSE. >> SO THOSE CHANGES ARE OKAY? >> YEAH.

>> THAT'S NOT STICKING WITH THE ORIGINAL? >> NO.

-- [CROSSTALK] -- >> REVISE ORIGINAL WITHOUT THE TANGLE WOOD ADDITIONAL PORTION.

>> WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT TANGLE WOOD AND WE WERE DISCUSSING THIS.

>> CAN I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THE BUDGET? I KNOW WE HAVEN'T HAD THE BUDGET MEETINGS YET BUT THERE'S A POSSIBILITY DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS IN THE LEGISLATURE ABOUT

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THAT? IS THAT TRUE? >> I DON'T THINK LIKE PEOPLE

READING MY MIND BUT ANYWAY. >> I KNOW YOU'RE CONSERVATIVE AND I'M SURE THAT'S WHAT YOU

DID. >> YES, SIR. THERE'S TWO QUESTIONS.

AND IT'S A LEGIT QUESTION. THANK YOU. IT WILL BE TALKED ABOUT.

IT'S NOT INCORPORATED BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO START COUNTING THEM BEFORE THEY HATCH BUT IT'S A GOOD POSSIBILITY -- [INDISCERNIBLE] -- IS THAT I'M NOT INCLUDING ANY TYPE OF STIMULUS THAT WE'RE ENCOUNTERING RIGHT NOW OR IN THE COMING YEAR OR FUTURE MONTHS.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE SEEN YOU'RE SALES TAX THIS PAST MONTH, A BIG JUMP, AND A LOT OF THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE BIG STIMULUS. YOU KNOW ME.

I'M NOT GOING TO ASSUME IT'S GOING TO BE THERE SO I'LL STICK TO MY GUNS AS THE NORMAL TREND.

THERE'S A HUGE POSSIBILITY YOUR SALES TAX WILL COME IN A LITTLE HIGHER.

FOR EXAMPLE, THIS MONTH AND THE REMAINING OF THE YEAR, IF YOU HAVE AN INCREASE THAT MONEY COULD BE SET ASIDE TO DO WHATEVER ELSE YOU WANT THAT'S NOT INCLUDED CURRENTLY IN THE CIP. TO ALSO MENTION SINCE WE'RE TALKING BUDGET AND DON'T HOLD IT TO ME IS THAT REMEMBER BACK IN NOVEMBER, MS. SCOTT, ABOUT THESE FUNDS, THE RAINY DAY, CALLING IT SOMETHING, BUT WE CREATED THAT FUND WHERE WE CAN PUT MONEY IN AND WHERE COUNCIL HAS THE DISCRETION, MY INTENT IS TO START GROWING THAT. I DON'T WANT TO SAY HOW MUCH -- [INDISCERNIBLE] -- BUT HE'S AWARE OF IT. IF IT'S SMILING, THAT'S GREAT.

IF HE'S FROWNING, I'M TALK ABOUT IT TOMORROW. >> HE'S SMILING.

>> HE HAS THAT TV OVER THERE. >> I FEEL LIKE HE'S WATCHING OVER US TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TAKE

ATTENTION ALL THE TIME. >> I WANT THE TANGLE WOOD PEOPLE TO KNOW THEY'RE GETTING SOME

STREETS DONE IN '20. >> 5.2. >> YES.

THEY'RE JUST NOT GETTING EVERY STREET DONE AND THEY'RE GETTING TEAK WOOD.

IT GOES IN AND OUT OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. I WOULD LIKE AT A WORK SESSION, A LITTLE TIME AT THE NEXT WORK SESSION, JUST TO DISCUSS THE CIP AND MAYBE TO UNDERSTAND SOME OTHER PROJECTS THAT MIGHT, IF WE COME UP WITH MONEY, THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO FUND, IF IT'S TANGLE WOOD, IF IT'S CASTLE HILLS WEST OR STREETS IN THE OTHER DISTRICTS OR PARKS PROJECT, I'D LIKE TO KNOW LIKE WHAT WOULD BE THE TOP PRIORITY FOR CIP IF WE CAME UP WITH SOME

OTHER MONEY. >> CORRECT. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IF THERE'S

NO POINT IN CREATING WORK FOR NOTHING, RIGHT. >> RIGHT.

>> AND SO IF COUNCIL WANTS TO, QUOTE/UNQUOTE, FIND MONEY THAT ISN'T SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE FOUND, THAT SOMETHING IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE CREATED THROUGH INCREASING THE BUDGET F THAT'S THE PATH THAT COUNCIL WANTS TO GO I WOULD SUGGEST WE DO THAT FIRST BEFORE WE COME UP

WITH PROJECTS BECAUSE -- [CROSSTALK] -- >> LET ME GO BACK.

IF WE COME UP WITH EXTRA MONEY CAN WE THEN HAVE A SUGGESTION ON EXTRA CIP PROJECTS TO DO?

-- [CROSSTALK] -- >> IF WE COME UP WITH EXTRA SALES TAX MONEY AND HAVE THIS RAINY DAY FUND AND WE END UP WITH MONEY IN IT CAN WE THEN COME UP WITH EXTRA CIP PROJECTS?

AS I COUNCILMEMBER I WOULD REQUEST IT. >> BUT YOU HAVE A FIVE-YEAR LOOK AHEAD OF CIP PROJECTS IN FRONT OF YOU ALREADY SO ARE YOU LOOKING FOR A SIXTH YEAR BECAUSE

IT WOULD BE PULLING AHEAD SOME OF THOSE THAT WE ALREADY SAID. >> THAT COULD BE TOO.

WE COULD PULL AHEAD TOO AND SOME OTHERS COULD GET ADDED. >> BUT WE HAVE A GOOD IDEA ALREADY AND THEY HAVE PUT IN THE WORK TO SAY IF WE HAD EXTRA FUNDS WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIT IN

THIS PROJECT. >> THAT WOULD BE GOOD. >> BUT YOU HAVE MASTER PLANS THAT ARE COMING THAT ARE ALSO GOING TO HAVE PROJECTS -- [CROSSTALK] --

>> I THINK THESE ARE GOOD TOPICS TO DISCUSS IN A DIFFERENT SETTING.

OUR OBJECTIVE TONIGHT WAS TO GET SIMPLE DIRECTION ON WHETHER WE ADD MORE STREETS AT TANGLEWOOD OR NOT. I WOULD HATE TO CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION OUTSIDE OF THE

SCOPE THAT WE'VE. >> THAT'S WHY I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS IT AT A WORK SESSION.

>> RIGHT. WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. >> THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

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>> AND WE WERE ALREADY PLANNING ON REVISITING THE CIP, YOU KNOW, IN THE FALL, AND A COMMENT WAS MADE EARLIER WE'RE NOT WAITING UNTIL MAY, RIGHT. IT'S REALLY A YEAR-LONG CONVERSATION SO WITH THE MASTERS PLANS SCHEDULED TO BE COMPLETED THIS SUMMER AND THE FALL WE WERE ALREADY PLANNING ON REVISITING THE CIP IN A WORKSHOP SETTING IN THE FALL.

ONE THING WE CAN DO IN PARALLEL TO FINALIZING THE MASTER PLANS IS DOING WHAT'S BEEN SUGGESTED WHICH IS CREATING A LIST OF ADDITIONAL PROJECTS. HOWEVER I THINK IF THE CONVERSATION WANTS TO BE CENTERED AROUND STREETS, SINCE OBVIOUSLY THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND, QUOTE/UNQUOTE, FINDING MORE MONEY FOR STREETS THERE'S A SLEW OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT COMMUNITIES CAN -- FOR INCREASED REVENUES, CENTERED AROUND STREETS AND IF THAT'S A CONVERSATION THAT COUNCIL WANTS TO HAVE WE CAN HAVE IT IN THE A WORKSHOP SETTING. YOU ALL ALREADY KNOW THAT THERE'S CITIES OUT THERE THAT DO

HAVE SOURCES OF FUNDS SPECIFIC FOR STREETS. >> RIGHT.

>> THAT WE'VE NEVER HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT. >> I THINK IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO

HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. >> EVEN WHEN WE GET THE MASTER PLANS BACK THERE MAY BE PROJECTS ON THERE THAT COULD BE INCLUDED IN THE CIP THAT MAYBE THEY WOULD TAKE PRECEDENCE OVER MOVING

SOMETHING UP. >> YEAH. CORRECT.

>> IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU CAN WE CONTINUE THAT CONVERSATION. THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD TO TANGLE WOOD THAT STAFF WOULD HAVE MENTIONED IS THAT THE BENEFIT OF DOING THE BLUE BECAUSE THERE'S ALSO UTILITIES INTENDED, THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY SOME OF THE BLUE IS ADDED, RIGHT, BUT IF YOU REMOVE THE BLUE AND JUST DO THE ORANGE AND MAKE THE ORANGE REALLY NICE, THEN GO BACK TO DO THE BLUE, WHAT ARE YOU HAVING TO GO THROUGH? YOU'RE HAVING TO GO THROUGH THE ORANGE, RIGHT? PART OF HAVING A COMPLETE PHASE ONE IS THAT IT NOT ONLY FACILITATES THE GRAVITY-FED LINES UNDER, RIGHT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF KEN WAS PLANNING ON TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THAT BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY HAD MORE SLIDES AND THEN WE JUST STARTED HAVING THE CONVERSATION BUT THERE WAS SOME RASH SCHNALL -- RATIONALE TO ADDING SOME OF THOSE AND THE FACT THAT IT WOULD ELIMINATE ISSUES FROM HAVING TO

GO THROUGH THE ORANGE TO GET TO THE BLUE IF IT CAME LATER. >> THEY COULDN'T DO THE BLUE

BEFORE THE ORANGE? >> YOU WANT TO WORK SANITARY SEWER FROM THE DOWNSTREAM UP.

-- [INDISCERNIBLE] -- THERE'S ONE SECTION OF THE SEWER THAT GOES DOWN INTO THE TEAK WOOD.

OTHER SECTIONS, A BIT OF SHERWOOD THAT GOES THAT WAY BUT THEN YOU'VE GOT THE UPPER CORNER ON THE RIGHT GOES OUT TOWARDS LYNNWOOD AND THEN BELIEVE IT OR NOT THE EASIEST ONES, THE CIRCLE STREETS THEY ALL GO TO SAM HOUSTON SO THERE'S KIND OF A MADNESS TO IT, IF YOU WILL, TO WORK FROM THE DOWNSTREAM UP. YOU DON'T WANT TO WORK IN THE MIDDLE BECAUSE YOU MISS A GRADE YOU'RE OUT OF LUCK. THE OTHER THING THAT JESUS MENTIONED TOO AS WE'RE LOOKING AT IT YOU'VE GOT TO REMEMBER YOU'VE GOT TO GET TRUCKS IN THERE TO HALL BASE. YOU'VE GOT TO GET TRUCKS, EXCAVATION, AND WHAT WE ALWAYS LOOK AT IS HOW DO THEY GET IN AND HOW ARE THEY GETTING OUT BECAUSE I CAN ASSURE YOU WITH THE VOLUME OF TRUCKS THAT ARE GOING TO COME IN AND OUT, IT'S GOING TO SEVERELY STRESS THOSE CURRENT STREETS. SO THERE'S A METHOD BEHIND SOME OF THAT IS TO GET THOSE TRUCKS IN AND OUT, YOU KNOW, WORK -- GET THE UTILITIES IN AND THEN

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WORK FROM THE BACK OUT. >> AND IT'S ALSO BASED ON THE UTILITIES.

>> YES. >> THE '19 PLAN, PHASE ONE, WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

>> A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, THAT'S CORRECT. >> DIDN'T HAVE THE DOUBLING BACK

ON ITSELF BUT THIS ONE IS TRYING TO GET TO THE UTILITIES? >> THE PHASE ONE WAS TO GET -- PRIMARILY TO GET BEACH WOOD. THERE'S A PRIORITY FOR GETTING BEACH WOOD IN THIS ORIGINAL

MARCH 26TH. >> THAT WAS BEFORE. >> RIGHT.

TO GET INTO BEACH WOOD WE HAVE TO GET DOWN TANGLEWOOD. >> CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY THE

SECTION OF SHERWOOD IS NOT BLUE AND ORIGINALLY ORANGE? >> LET ME LOOK.

>> THAT DID NOT NEED TO BE IN THAT ORIGINAL PLAN. >> WHY?

>> BECAUSE THE, AGAIN, THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS BEACH WOOD. MIKE AND I DISCUSSED IT.

MIKE DROVE THE STREETS AND MIKE WAS PRETTY MUCH WE'VE GOT TO GET BEACH WOOD SO TO GET BEACH WOOD

WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO SHERWOOD. >> YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT GOING DOWN STREAM UP.

>> THE SEWER LINE ON SHERWOOD GOES FROM ABOUT TANGLEWOOD AND WRAPS INTO TEAK WOOD.

WE DON'T HAVE TO GO DOWN TANGLEWOOD AGAIN. >> WE WOULD BUILD IT, WHEN WE DID SHERWOOD LATER, WE CAN DO SURED WOOD WITHOUT HAVING TO TEAR ANY OF THE ORANGE BACK UP.

WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK DOWN MAPLE WOOD OR DOWN LYNNWOOD FOR THE SEWER OR WATER.

>> ARE YOU GOING TO TIE INTO TEAK WOOD. >> WE WOULD TIE THE SEWER INTO

TEAK WOOD AND SOME MAY GO TO TANGLEWOOD. >> WHY WOULDN'T YOU HAVE DONE IT INITIALLY? YOU'RE STILL CROSSING THE UTILITIES.

JUST DO IT NOW. >> I REALLY DON'T -- I'LL GET WITH YOU AFTERWARDS AND KIND OF SHOW YOU THE MAPS BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO CROSS -- THE ONLY ONE YOU HAVE TO CROSS IS MAPLE WOOD BUT YOU'LL HAVE THE LINES AT A DEPTH WHERE THEY'RE ALREADY THERE.

YOU WILL HAVE TO CROSS A STREET BUT NOT GOING BACK DOWN A COMPLETE STREET YOU'VE ALREADY

DONE. >> I THINK WE HAVE THE DIRECTION THAT WE NEED.

>> THERE BEING

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